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2014-06-19 01:25:19 PM
I'd still like to know how the hell he didn't freeze to death or die from lack of oxygen. Dumb kid, really dumb.
 
2014-06-19 03:45:22 PM
The deeply stupid have no fear.
 
2014-06-19 04:10:26 PM
The funniest part about being a teenager is that you have no idea how stupid you are.
 
2014-06-19 04:12:45 PM
"Abdi said he has regained his hearing and is okay physically."

Yeah I imagine it's rather loud, and I doubt he regained all of it.
 
2014-06-19 04:14:54 PM
My guess is that either he was too starved for oxygen to feel any emotion, or he was so upset with his father and stepmother that he thought death would be better.

/the whole story seems like the plot of a "Lifetime" original movie
 
2014-06-19 04:16:28 PM
It's hard to be scared when you're passed out and half dead from oxygen deprivation.
 
2014-06-19 04:16:48 PM
probably more comfortable than coach
 
2014-06-19 04:18:00 PM
www.dirtybutton.com

This was scary.
 
2014-06-19 04:18:34 PM
just try getting a bag of peanuts down there
 
2014-06-19 04:19:26 PM

SpdrJay: The funniest part about being a teenager is that you have no idea how stupid you are.


With no idea how many things can kill you. He won't make it to procreation.
 
2014-06-19 04:19:40 PM
He's perfect for the Army. They should sign him up immediately before he gets too smart.
 
2014-06-19 04:21:27 PM
It's wasn't scary because he is a Mooselim and trained for it his entire life. I think his mission was to take down that airliner but he passed out before he could complete his assignment.
 
2014-06-19 04:21:28 PM
I hope he let off some steam.
 
2014-06-19 04:23:49 PM
proves how smart teens are.  he wasn't scared because he was blissfully unaware of how much danger he was in. once you get up to 30 thousand feet or so, the oxygen is almost gone and the temps are on their way down to 50 to 70 degrees below zero.


ignorance is bliss.  that would explain alot about 'muricans these days too.
 
2014-06-19 04:23:51 PM
He's lucky he didn't asphyxiate himself.
 
2014-06-19 04:25:49 PM
I hope he never reproduces...  Maybe the cold took out his berries...
 
2014-06-19 04:25:51 PM
He didn't even pay for his trip but I bet he had more legroom than all the bastards flying coach.

BTW, great job keeping the airplanes safe, TSA people.
 
2014-06-19 04:26:09 PM
FTFA:  Abdi is staying at a temporary foster home and will be leaving soon. He will be a junior in high school this fall and plans to live with his aunt in the Minneapolis area. There are questions on whether the Transportation Security Administration will allow him to fly there.

This makes no sense.  Wouldn't he be far less of a risk to the airline strapped into a seat where people could keep an eye on him as opposed to curled up around the landing gear in the nose?

Or are they mad because he figured out how to make a flight without TSA jamming a thumb up his butthole in the name of security?
 
2014-06-19 04:26:42 PM
But somehow he knew that that particular plane was heading westward?
 
2014-06-19 04:27:42 PM
"I would tell her to live with me in America," he said.


Sigh. Fanstatic.
 
2014-06-19 04:27:58 PM
Personally I think the kids full of shiat. At 35000 ft, the temp can reach 80 below and the amount of oxygen is almost non-existent. Even if he did survive the flight, the lack of oxygen would have left him unconscious by the end of the flight, when the landing gear was lowered he would have been sucked out unless he somehow tied himself to something.

Not only that, but having served 20 years in the Air Force, I've seen the inside of plenty of wheel wells. Once the landing gear is raised, there's little room for anything else. If you climb into one with the gear down not knowing where it will rest in the up position, the odds of not getting crushed when it retracts are slim to none.
 
2014-06-19 04:28:26 PM

special20: He's perfect for the Army. They should sign him up immediately before he gets too smart.


Agreed.  If you read the article the lesson and advice he gives to other teens is don't run away.

How about don't sneak on to an overseas flight in the wheel well of a commercial air liner?

/Some teens have good reasons for running away
//most don't.
 
2014-06-19 04:31:22 PM

Fano: I hope he let off some steam.


Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.
 
2014-06-19 04:33:29 PM

LeroyBourne: Fano: I hope he let off some steam.

Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.


You'd be lucky to make it that far. At that speed, you'd probably not be able to even hold on.
 
2014-06-19 04:34:03 PM

Linux_Yes: ignorance is bliss. that would explain alot about 'muricans these days too.


Did you just discover hating America? Or have I not noticed you all these years?
 
2014-06-19 04:34:24 PM

drgloryboy: But somehow he knew that that particular plane was heading westward?


If only there was something on the exterior of the aircraft that gave some sort of indication of where it might be headed...

Oh, wait.

flyawaysimulation.com
 
2014-06-19 04:34:41 PM

ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. ...


I think it's on video. It's happened before and a few have made it. A few also got dropped over urban areas on the way in.

/If I ever get killed by a falling dead body I swear to god I'm coming back to haunt that idiots family for the rest of my ghost days.
 
2014-06-19 04:35:13 PM

ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. At 35000 ft, the temp can reach 80 below and the amount of oxygen is almost non-existent. Even if he did survive the flight, the lack of oxygen would have left him unconscious by the end of the flight, when the landing gear was lowered he would have been sucked out unless he somehow tied himself to something.
Not only that, but having served 20 years in the Air Force, I've seen the inside of plenty of wheel wells. Once the landing gear is raised, there's little room for anything else. If you climb into one with the gear down not knowing where it will rest in the up position, the odds of not getting crushed when it retracts are slim to none.


I'd be tempted to say it's bullshiat too, but if it is, how did he pull this off? I'm sure he's been interrogated multiple times now, and no one seems to have any explanation other than "yup, he came over in the wheelwell." And somehow survived it.
 
2014-06-19 04:35:21 PM

Mark Ratner: I'd still like to know how the hell he didn't freeze to death or die from lack of oxygen. Dumb kid, really dumb.


This.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. There needs to be a short video tour of airliner wheel wells. How much much space is in there? How are they not injured during retraction/extention. What exactly are they hanging on to? When this occurs, do they call Rex Kramer? These are the things that I need to know.
 
2014-06-19 04:35:35 PM

Linux_Yes: proves how smart teens are.  he wasn't scared because he was blissfully unaware of how much danger he was in. once you get up to 30 thousand feet or so, the oxygen is almost gone and the temps are on their way down to 50 to 70 degrees below zero.


ignorance is bliss.  that would explain alot about 'muricans these days too.


And the Somali?
 
2014-06-19 04:36:14 PM
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/First thing I thought of.
 
2014-06-19 04:38:07 PM

cryinoutloud: ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. At 35000 ft, the temp can reach 80 below and the amount of oxygen is almost non-existent. Even if he did survive the flight, the lack of oxygen would have left him unconscious by the end of the flight, when the landing gear was lowered he would have been sucked out unless he somehow tied himself to something.
Not only that, but having served 20 years in the Air Force, I've seen the inside of plenty of wheel wells. Once the landing gear is raised, there's little room for anything else. If you climb into one with the gear down not knowing where it will rest in the up position, the odds of not getting crushed when it retracts are slim to none.

I'd be tempted to say it's bullshiat too, but if it is, how did he pull this off? I'm sure he's been interrogated multiple times now, and no one seems to have any explanation other than "yup, he came over in the wheelwell." And somehow survived it.


No clue, but it wouldn't be the first time someone made up a bullshiat story just to get their name in the news.
 
2014-06-19 04:39:17 PM

ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. At 35000 ft, the temp can reach 80 below and the amount of oxygen is almost non-existent. Even if he did survive the flight, the lack of oxygen would have left him unconscious by the end of the flight, when the landing gear was lowered he would have been sucked out unless he somehow tied himself to something.

Not only that, but having served 20 years in the Air Force, I've seen the inside of plenty of wheel wells. Once the landing gear is raised, there's little room for anything else. If you climb into one with the gear down not knowing where it will rest in the up position, the odds of not getting crushed when it retracts are slim to none.


The nose wheel well of an E2-C Hawkeye has enough room for half a person with the gear up.
Not that any one has been there with the wheels up,  just the I've worked inside the wheel well.
 
2014-06-19 04:42:53 PM

moike: drgloryboy: But somehow he knew that that particular plane was heading westward?

If only there was something on the exterior of the aircraft that gave some sort of indication of where it might be headed...

Oh, wait.

[flyawaysimulation.com image 850x516]


Snicker.

 
2014-06-19 04:43:29 PM

KingKauff: LeroyBourne: Fano: I hope he let off some steam.

Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.

You'd be lucky to make it that far. At that speed, you'd probably not be able to even hold on.


rRemember when they said they'd kill him last?
 
2014-06-19 04:43:38 PM
I think this is BS as well.  More likely that he snuck in to one of the pressurized cargo holds, and wasn't discovered.
 
2014-06-19 04:43:48 PM

cryinoutloud: ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. At 35000 ft, the temp can reach 80 below and the amount of oxygen is almost non-existent. Even if he did survive the flight, the lack of oxygen would have left him unconscious by the end of the flight, when the landing gear was lowered he would have been sucked out unless he somehow tied himself to something.
Not only that, but having served 20 years in the Air Force, I've seen the inside of plenty of wheel wells. Once the landing gear is raised, there's little room for anything else. If you climb into one with the gear down not knowing where it will rest in the up position, the odds of not getting crushed when it retracts are slim to none.

I'd be tempted to say it's bullshiat too, but if it is, how did he pull this off? I'm sure he's been interrogated multiple times now, and no one seems to have any explanation other than "yup, he came over in the wheelwell." And somehow survived it.


He's Somalian. He is very, very skinny. He is no more than a balloon on a broomstick. He obviously doesn't need much oxygen due to his very frail stature. Since his body and frame are so tiny, his circulation is also able to keep what little of him there is alive, in below zero conditions.

Let's see some fat kid (American) try that.

BTW, depending on which wheel well, some of the mechanical systems had to provide enough ambient heat to keep him alive. It's either that or the fact he was seated on the skin of the aircraft where at high speed I am pretty sure there had to be some friction... maybe even some de-icing.
 
2014-06-19 04:48:46 PM

nipner: I think this is BS as well.  More likely that he snuck in to one of the pressurized cargo holds, and wasn't discovered.


Well maybe he did. He might not even know the difference. If I stowed away on a plane, I wouldn't know where the hell i was holed up at. Maybe they asked him "Were you in the wheel well?" and he said Yes, and then he realized that he was in a lot of trouble, so he shut his mouth about anything else.
 
2014-06-19 04:52:12 PM

Fano: KingKauff: LeroyBourne: Fano: I hope he let off some steam.

Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.

You'd be lucky to make it that far. At that speed, you'd probably not be able to even hold on.

rRemember when they said they'd kill him last?


Everything about that movie is so cheese.  Sully's suit.  You can see the wire coming out of his pant leg.  The Porsche has no side damage when Arnie takes it.  The girls car has no passenger seat, goes full on into a pole and the girl doesn't even slam her head into the dash.  I could go on and on.  I love it from start to finish.
 
2014-06-19 04:54:46 PM

Fano: KingKauff: LeroyBourne: Fano: I hope he let off some steam.

Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.

You'd be lucky to make it that far. At that speed, you'd probably not be able to even hold on.

rRemember when they said they'd kill him last?


Yeah. But guess what? They lied
 
2014-06-19 04:57:08 PM

LeroyBourne: Fano: KingKauff: LeroyBourne: Fano: I hope he let off some steam.

Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.

You'd be lucky to make it that far. At that speed, you'd probably not be able to even hold on.

rRemember when they said they'd kill him last?

Everything about that movie is so cheese.  Sully's suit.  You can see the wire coming out of his pant leg.  The Porsche has no side damage when Arnie takes it.  The girls car has no passenger seat, goes full on into a pole and the girl doesn't even slam her head into the dash.  I could go on and on.  I love it from start to finish.


throwing the saw blade and slicing the side of the guys head off.  Throwing a pipe THROUGH a guy and puncturing a boiler. None on the other passengers noticing he just broke some dudes neck  a flight attendant that knows how to fly a seaplane

If you would have thrown in nudity it would have been the perfect movie

/mmm Rae Dawn Chong
 
2014-06-19 04:58:04 PM

KingKauff: Fano: KingKauff: LeroyBourne: Fano: I hope he let off some steam.

Are you referencing that completely impossible scene from Commando?
/great movie, just saying jumping out of an airplane into a swamp at that speed you're gonna skip like a flat rock, for a long distance.

You'd be lucky to make it that far. At that speed, you'd probably not be able to even hold on.

rRemember when they said they'd kill him last?

Yeah. But guess what? They lied



Link
And for you two. Here are the alternate endings, I think they went with the right choice with, let off some steam bennet.
nsfw with an impaled bennet
 
2014-06-19 04:59:21 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. ...

I think it's on video. It's happened before and a few have made it. A few also got dropped over urban areas on the way in.

/If I ever get killed by a falling dead body I swear to god I'm coming back to haunt that idiots family for the rest of my ghost days.


Saw the video on tv. Shows the kid under the plane.
He didn't freeze because goodness, gracious, great big balls of fire.
 
2014-06-19 05:01:08 PM
The first time I took to hoboin' hoboin' hoboin',
I took a jet plane,
to be my friend.
Oh lord.
 
2014-06-19 05:05:12 PM
Fascinating. So a plane heading from an airport in Topeka Kansas to LA is going to take off westward, to Austin is going to take off Southward, to New York is going to take off eastward, and to Wisconsin is going to take off only from northbound lanes. Hmmm.  When I fly from LAX to Chicago we start heading west over the ocean then turn back around eastbound.
 
2014-06-19 05:06:24 PM
Still amazed of the balls to even do this.
 
2014-06-19 05:13:12 PM

drgloryboy: Fascinating. So a plane heading from an airport in Topeka Kansas to LA is going to take off westward, to Austin is going to take off Southward, to New York is going to take off eastward, and to Wisconsin is going to take off only from northbound lanes. Hmmm.  When I fly from LAX to Chicago we start heading west over the ocean then turn back around eastbound.


I assume LAX has its traffic set up that way so that planes aren't taking off over residential areas. Late at night, though, they have planes landing from west to east so they aren't flying in over residential areas.
 
2014-06-19 05:16:00 PM
Alright, nowhere in the article does it say what airline he boarded, but just watched the video....
 
2014-06-19 05:22:18 PM

ReapTheChaos: Personally I think the kids full of shiat. At 35000 ft, the temp can reach 80 below and the amount of oxygen is almost non-existent. Even if he did survive the flight, the lack of oxygen would have left him unconscious by the end of the flight, when the landing gear was lowered he would have been sucked out unless he somehow tied himself to something.

Not only that, but having served 20 years in the Air Force, I've seen the inside of plenty of wheel wells. Once the landing gear is raised, there's little room for anything else. If you climb into one with the gear down not knowing where it will rest in the up position, the odds of not getting crushed when it retracts are slim to none.


See I always assumed that, but the movies usually make it look like there's tons of room for people to hide.
 
2014-06-19 05:23:36 PM

BrundleFlyForAWhiteGuy: It's hard to be scared when you're passed out and half dead from oxygen deprivation.


That's what i was thinking. I can be pretty much "not scared" if I'm pretty much "not conscious".

cyberspacedout: drgloryboy: Fascinating. So a plane heading from an airport in Topeka Kansas to LA is going to take off westward, to Austin is going to take off Southward, to New York is going to take off eastward, and to Wisconsin is going to take off only from northbound lanes. Hmmm.  When I fly from LAX to Chicago we start heading west over the ocean then turn back around eastbound.

I assume LAX has its traffic set up that way so that planes aren't taking off over residential areas. Late at night, though, they have planes landing from west to east so they aren't flying in over residential areas.


Must be nice... We have planes flying over our heads here, coming in for landings, until at least 11. Loud motherfarkers, too. Have to continually pause whatever's on if it's a nice night and we have the windows open.
 
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