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(AOL)   Man puts up sign warning drivers of DUI checkpoint ahead and telling them to "turn now." Police: "Your sign is interfering with our right to randomly stop innocent drivers, and we're going to take it from you"   (aol.com ) divider line
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2014-06-18 06:31:44 PM  
We are gonna need a bigger sign.
 
2014-06-18 06:45:49 PM  
I honestly have no problem with this.
 
2014-06-18 08:00:35 PM  
They did that around here. The police themselves put a sign saying DUI check point ahead.

Then at the next place where people could turn around they set up a DUI check to get all the folks turned around.
 
2014-06-18 08:03:58 PM  
In a video of the incident posted on YouTube, you can see the officers approaching Odolecki calmly and telling him he can keep the sign.

"You can stand here with the sign, but you have to get rid of the 'turn now.'"


Nonstory. Teabagger twit thought he could go around creating his own personal traffic detours.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-18 08:12:52 PM  
My prediction: The DA will drop the charges if he agrees not to sue.  If he threatens a suit they'll try to get him on disorderly conduct, because a conviction on any charge validates the arrest.

Around here they put a notice in the newspaper saying there will be a checkpoint in a certain county some time over a weekend. I don't understand why that is considered any different from not announcing the checkpoint at all.
 
2014-06-18 08:34:04 PM  

optikeye: Then at the next place where people could turn around they set up a DUI check to get all the folks turned around.


They should have played this on the PA system when someone got caught by the second checkpoint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC75aU47GRk
 
2014-06-18 08:51:03 PM  
Guess the cops missed that recent Federal court ruling.
 
2014-06-18 08:58:07 PM  
Which proves it's not about, nor was ever about public safety. It's about collecting fines and filling the city coffers
 
2014-06-18 09:02:45 PM  
FTFA: Odolecki was given a ticket, and the police confiscated the sign...you can see the officers approaching Odolecki calmly and telling him he can keep the sign. "You can stand here with the sign, but you have to get rid of the 'turn now.'"

This could be a lot clearer.
 
2014-06-18 09:06:13 PM  

Trance750: Which proves it's not about, nor was ever about public safety. It's about collecting fines and filling the city coffers


You saw the part about DUI checkpoint, right? So getting drunk drivers off the roads isn't about public safety?

oh wait..

8/10.. good one..
 
2014-06-18 09:06:18 PM  
I'm all for getting drunks off the road, but I have long had a problem with this "guilty until proven innocent" mantra with these "checkpoints."
 
2014-06-18 09:07:33 PM  
AOL?? Can I click on this link without a free trial CD?   Do I need dial up?
 
2014-06-18 09:09:11 PM  

strutin: Trance750: Which proves it's not about, nor was ever about public safety. It's about collecting fines and filling the city coffers

You saw the part about DUI checkpoint, right? So getting drunk drivers off the roads isn't about public safety?

oh wait..

8/10.. good one..


When you have the police threaten those who flash their lights, to warn of a speed-trap, then yes
 
2014-06-18 09:09:14 PM  

HotWingAgenda: In a video of the incident posted on YouTube, you can see the officers approaching Odolecki calmly and telling him he can keep the sign.

"You can stand here with the sign, but you have to get rid of the 'turn now.'"

Nonstory. Teabagger twit thought he could go around creating his own personal traffic detours.


Cool, we're gonna blame on "those people".
 
2014-06-18 09:10:09 PM  
Perhaps instead he should have said "THE DUI CHECKPOINT AHEAD IS AN ABUSE OF POLICE POWER." According to the story, that's actually what he intended to mean and it merely makes a political claim. It doesn't advise people to do anything (although I don't think saying "turn now" should be a citable offense, either).
 
2014-06-18 09:10:14 PM  

edmo: Guess the cops missed that recent Federal court ruling.


This one?

Flashing headlights to warn drivers of a speed trap = constitutionally protected speech

First thing I thought of, too.
 
2014-06-18 09:10:45 PM  
Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.
 
2014-06-18 09:10:55 PM  
Couple years ago I saw a handwritten sign at one end of a bridge saying "Speed Trap Ahead", and a like 12-year old kid two blocks past said trap holding a sign that said "Tips". Even though I was walking I still gave him five bucks.
 
2014-06-18 09:11:04 PM  

optikeye: .

Then at the next place where people could turn around they set up a DUI check to get all the folks turned around.


Clever girl.
 
2014-06-18 09:11:44 PM  
Holding a sign is a privilege not a right.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-18 09:12:31 PM  
Frequently these checkpoints are paid for by federal grants, and local police don't think they are worthwhile unless somebody else is paying them overtime.
 
2014-06-18 09:12:35 PM  

ZAZ: Around here they put a notice in the newspaper saying there will be a checkpoint in a certain county some time over a weekend. I don't understand why that is considered any different from not announcing the checkpoint at all.


It has a deterrent effect.

Fortunately, I live in a college town, but about as far away from the college and most of the bars as one can get and still be in town.  I am confident that they will never put a DUI checkpoint between me and the liquor store or even between me and the closest 5 bars.

They don't announce specific locations of DUI checkpoints here either, but when they do I just don't go to the bar district.  I usually don't go to the bar district anyway - too many damned kids.

Seriously - holiday weekend?  DUI checkpoints?  No thanks, I'm gonna drink at home rather than in a bar.  And that probably is a good thing.

Taking cabs suck.  You can get one to take you to the bars, but good luck finding one to take you home - and if I know I'm taking a cab home, I tend to drink twice as hard anyway.
 
2014-06-18 09:12:55 PM  

strutin: You saw the part about DUI checkpoint, right? So getting drunk drivers off the roads isn't about public safety?


If you ask an honest cop (good luck finding one), they will tell you that DUI checkpoints are not primarily designed to get drunk people off the road. They are a big show and are quite useless at that, too.

Considering that the *best* checkpoints run an average hit rate of 1.5% versus roving patrols dedicated to DUI enforcement that can easily achieve 12-15% hit rates, I would agree.

The Rehnquist Court let us all down by allowing such checkpoints. Agencies and departments that run them are simply abusing the taxpayer and citizenry through ineffective but abusive policing.
 
2014-06-18 09:13:08 PM  

Trance750: When you have the police threaten those who flash their lights, to warn of a speed-trap, then yes


Solution: Carry a sign in your car at all times that says "THE SPEED TRAP AHEAD IS AN ABUSE OF POLICE POWER. ALERT YOUR LEGISLATURE." Display as necessary.
 
2014-06-18 09:13:27 PM  

Loucifer: AOL?? Can I click on this link without a free trial CD?   Do I need dial up?


Yeah, I'm with Satan on this one.
 
2014-06-18 09:13:57 PM  
Maybe he'll feel differently when a loved one gets killed by a drunk driver.
 
2014-06-18 09:14:13 PM  
I dated a bartender.She told me on Friday or Saturday night she would call the police department about 9pm and they have to tell you where the checkpoint would be.

That's what she told me.
Disclaimer: I don't condone drunk driving.
 
2014-06-18 09:14:15 PM  
Good. I have no problem with cops stopping people to check for drunk drivers, I can't honestly think of a reason why any sane person would.
 
2014-06-18 09:14:17 PM  
I would be downright funny if you just put the sign up.
 
2014-06-18 09:14:20 PM  
Police hate the first amendment.
 
2014-06-18 09:15:48 PM  

MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.


Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.
 
2014-06-18 09:16:49 PM  
I was gonna drive down to the store, but then I got high. I was gonna buy a poster board, but then I got high. I was gonna make that turn now sign, but then I got high. I was gonna stop some DUIs, but then I got high, then I got high, officer hi.
 
2014-06-18 09:17:51 PM  

BigNumber12: Maybe he'll feel differently when a loved one gets killed by a drunk driver.


Maybe we should try prohibition again.  That should at least cut down on the number of drunk drivers.
 
2014-06-18 09:18:45 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Good. I have no problem with cops stopping people to check for drunk drivers, I can't honestly think of a reason why any sane person would.


Some of us like our 4th amendment rights.
 
2014-06-18 09:18:52 PM  
 
2014-06-18 09:19:01 PM  
when I get tired of chewing on Chicken I grab the fork and have some mashed potatoes
 
2014-06-18 09:20:00 PM  

FlyinS: MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.

Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.


If they catch just one drunk driver, they've saved billions of lives. Are you saying billions of lives aren't worth more than a little inconvenience? You're literally 167+ times worse than Hitler.
 
2014-06-18 09:20:19 PM  

LessO2: I'm all for getting drunks off the road, but I have long had a problem with this "guilty until proven innocent" mantra with these "checkpoints."


Not to mention the entrapment.  If you take down warning signs like this and/or stop people from turning around.....

Not to mention this sign is protected by the first amendment.
 
2014-06-18 09:20:23 PM  

FlyinS: MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.

Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.


Still doesn't answer my question.  Who's the hero here, Clyde?

You sound lawyerish.
 
2014-06-18 09:20:44 PM  

SquiggsIN: fark anyone who drinks and drives. I don't like checkpoints but they save lives. You don't have any right to endanger others with your immaturity If you're driving drunk.


DUI checkpoints cost lives, actually.
 
2014-06-18 09:20:45 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Police hate the first amendment.


That's the understatement of the century.
 
2014-06-18 09:20:56 PM  
A couple of times a year they put up a DUI checkpoint near my home.  I go around it not because I've been drinking (I don't drink and drive), but because I do not wish to sit there for half an hour or more when I am less than five minutes from getting home.
 
2014-06-18 09:21:16 PM  

MrHappyRotter: FlyinS: MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.

Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.

If they catch just one drunk driver, they've saved billions of lives. Are you saying billions of lives aren't worth more than a little inconvenience? You're literally 167+ times worse than Hitler.


At least 192xs
 
2014-06-18 09:21:56 PM  
I think it's a law in CT that there has to be an alternative provided to going through the checkpoint so they're typically set up right after an intersection.  My favorite was a checkpoint that was set up near the highway so that the only way to circumvent the checkpoint was to travel a mile out of your way and then a mile back.  The downside of course is that you're putting someone who's about to fail a sobriety test on the highway, but that's probably why there was a state trooper parked on the on ramp.
 
2014-06-18 09:23:06 PM  

MBooda: FlyinS: MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.

Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.

Still doesn't answer my question.  Who's the hero here, Clyde?

You sound lawyerish.


I didn't answer because it's a stupid question. Why does there need to be a "hero"? There's people's rights. There's people clearly willing to let the police trample those rights, and there's people that want to retain our rights. It's not complicated.
 
2014-06-18 09:23:40 PM  

FlyinS: MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.

Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.


If all those other tickets are the cost of keeping drunk assholes off the road, it's worth it. Have you known anyone who was killed by a drunk driver? I did, and as far as I'm concerned, you being inconvenienced by the police is a minor issue compared to my loved one not living to see another day because some jerk couldn't control himself.

Anyone cheering someone steering drunk drivers away from cops should probably stop and think what they'd do if their wife/husband/partner/child were killed by one of those assholes he "saved" from the cops.
 
2014-06-18 09:23:53 PM  

doofusss: when I get tired of chewing on Chicken I grab the fork and have some mashed potatoes


I don't get it.
 
2014-06-18 09:24:15 PM  

Spare Me: Because People in power are Stupid: Police hate the first amendment.

That's the understatement of the century.


Police hate all the amendments, they get in the way of them trying to be brown shirted Nazis.
 
2014-06-18 09:25:48 PM  

Nix Nightbird: FlyinS: MBooda: Hero tag?  Who's the hero here? The drunk drivers? Their scavenger lawyers? The guy helping them stay on the road to kill you or your family?  Surely not the cops, who are trying to get them off the road.

Go find the statistics on how many drunk drivers they actually find versus other non related money making tickets they issue. Maybe you'll change your stance, but I doubt it. You sound nice and stupidly compliant, just the way the police want you to be.

If all those other tickets are the cost of keeping drunk assholes off the road, it's worth it. Have you known anyone who was killed by a drunk driver? I did, and as far as I'm concerned, you being inconvenienced by the police is a minor issue compared to my loved one not living to see another day because some jerk couldn't control himself.

Anyone cheering someone steering drunk drivers away from cops should probably stop and think what they'd do if their wife/husband/partner/child were killed by one of those assholes he "saved" from the cops.


It's not about inconvenience Sir Knee-Jerk, it's about rights. You're apparently ok with sacrificing your rights. I'm not. When should I stop over to take whatever I feel like from your house?
 
2014-06-18 09:26:07 PM  
I'm sitting in the pizza place, and a cop picks up 7 pizzas to go.
I switch my order to pepsi from Bud, and sure enough, I"m leaving town, and there is a clown patrol administering roadside stupid human tricks at the town line.
 
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