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(BBC-US)   Frenchman found guilty of ordering kidnapping of the guy who murdered his daughter. Thirty years ago. Liam Neeson nods in approval   (bbc.com) divider line 50
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2014-06-18 09:29:13 AM
We should do this to Roman Polanski.
 
2014-06-18 09:41:32 AM
Please understand... it was all business. It wasn't personal.
 
2014-06-18 09:44:36 AM
But he pronounced him the Gee that murdered his daughter.

Hard e not like the Bee Gees.

But like the Be Ges.

So in closing, parapluie, umbrella.

That pretty much exhausts my knowledge of French outside of "Please bring me red wine. Thank you."   and of course "Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir" which everyone knows means "Do you want to sleep with Patti LaBelle tonight?"
 
2014-06-18 09:44:38 AM
In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Unfortunately Batman vanished before they could even thank him.
 
2014-06-18 09:48:21 AM
In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Mulhouse: France's #1 location for dumping the bodies of German hostages
 
2014-06-18 10:07:40 AM
In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Said this in an earlier thread, but...this guy should get a medal. I can't speak for anyone but me, but if the guy who raped and murdered MY daughter fell into my hands, well...I'm no Ramsay Snow, but I might emulate one or two of his ideas. Ok, just the one. But it was a good one. In this case.
 
2014-06-18 10:26:33 AM
Liam Neeson wouldn't have gotten caught.
 
2014-06-18 10:29:08 AM
Give this guy a trial, then some probation to make sure he doesn't do it again.

Put the other guy in prison for life.
 
2014-06-18 10:29:38 AM

whistleridge: In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Said this in an earlier thread, but...this guy should get a medal. I can't speak for anyone but me, but if the guy who raped and murdered MY daughter fell into my hands, well...I'm no Ramsay Snow, but I might emulate one or two of his ideas. Ok, just the one. But it was a good one. In this case.


Whats the point in gelding a corpse?
 
2014-06-18 10:30:24 AM

whistleridge: In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Said this in an earlier thread, but...this guy should get a medal. I can't speak for anyone but me, but if the guy who raped and murdered MY daughter fell into my hands, well...I'm no Ramsay Snow, but I might emulate one or two of his ideas. Ok, just the one. But it was a good one. In this case.


That was pretty much my thought too, flay the farker.

Was the jury composed entirely of childless misanthropic seniors or something?
 
2014-06-18 10:30:48 AM

Paris1127: In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Mulhouse: France's #1 location for dumping the bodies of German hostages


I applaud and am frightened your encyclopedic knowledge of international kidnapping.
 
2014-06-18 10:30:50 AM
I've seen a few articles on this, but never a full/good explanation on why the Germans refused to extradite.  Is their law enforcement relations with France that bad?
 
2014-06-18 10:31:40 AM
As a law-abiding man, I can't condone this act of kidnapping. As a father, I admire his restraint in not leaving this guy in a shallow grave.
 
2014-06-18 10:32:23 AM
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Well, everything is turning up IN Mulhouse.
 
2014-06-18 10:32:58 AM

Paris1127: In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Mulhouse: France's #1 location for dumping the bodies of German hostages


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2014-06-18 10:34:46 AM

Target Builder: whistleridge: In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Said this in an earlier thread, but...this guy should get a medal. I can't speak for anyone but me, but if the guy who raped and murdered MY daughter fell into my hands, well...I'm no Ramsay Snow, but I might emulate one or two of his ideas. Ok, just the one. But it was a good one. In this case.

That was pretty much my thought too, flay the farker.

Was the jury composed entirely of childless misanthropic seniors or something?


Oh, flaying wasn't my one thing...
 
2014-06-18 10:34:55 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: Give this guy a trial, then some probation to make sure he doesn't do it again.

Put the other guy in prison for life.


One year suspended sentence, per the article.
 
2014-06-18 10:35:26 AM
Dude deserves a medal.

How the fark can he have that many people coming forward complaining about raping and drugging him and he only gets a two year sentence...
 
2014-06-18 10:38:10 AM
Ker_Thwap:

One year suspended sentence, per the article.

I reckon he's OK with that.
 
2014-06-18 10:38:24 AM

Satanic_Hamster: I've seen a few articles on this, but never a full/good explanation on why the Germans refused to extradite.  Is their law enforcement relations with France that bad?


If I remember correctly one article said something bout German courts saying the stuff that France used to convict him was not enough for them or something.
 
2014-06-18 10:39:43 AM
Sentence him to the comfy chair.
 
2014-06-18 10:40:58 AM

jumac: If I remember correctly one article said something bout German courts saying the stuff that France used to convict him was not enough for them or something.


Is that Germany's standard for extradition, I wonder?  Has to be enough to convict, not just enough to warrant a trial?  The BBC has said in a few articles on this case that Germany ruled the death an accident, not a homicide.
 
2014-06-18 10:42:08 AM

jumac: Satanic_Hamster: I've seen a few articles on this, but never a full/good explanation on why the Germans refused to extradite.  Is their law enforcement relations with France that bad?

If I remember correctly one article said something bout German courts saying the stuff that France used to convict him was not enough for them or something.


From Wiki-


In 1997, Krombach confessed during a trial in Germany to having drugged a 16-year-old patient and having raped her in his medical office. He received a two-year suspended sentence and lost his medical license.[6][7] Several other victims came forward, but the cases were not pursued for lack of physical evidence.[1] In 2006 he was sentenced to 28 months in prison for practicing medicine without a license.[3]
The 2006 German TV documentary Kalinkas letzte Reise contains an interview with two teenage sisters who say they were befriended by Krombach, injected with iron cobalt and raped


It wasn't just a one off thing that Germany wasn't buying, this guy must have connections
 
2014-06-18 10:43:04 AM

cgraves67: Paris1127: In October 2009, Krombach was found, his head bleeding and his hands and feet bound, outside the prosecutor's office in Mulhouse, close to the German border.

Mulhouse: France's #1 location for dumping the bodies of German hostages

I applaud and am frightened your encyclopedic knowledge of crime  international kidnapping.


FTFY. There are some foreign murder cases that put the US to shame, but you can only read about them (or the gory details of them) through Google Translate...
 
2014-06-18 10:51:50 AM

Satanic_Hamster: jumac: If I remember correctly one article said something bout German courts saying the stuff that France used to convict him was not enough for them or something.

Is that Germany's standard for extradition, I wonder?  Has to be enough to convict, not just enough to warrant a trial?  The BBC has said in a few articles on this case that Germany ruled the death an accident, not a homicide.


I hate it when I accidently kill underaged girls with something that I had only planned on knocking them out with, and I assure you that when I do I am planning aboslutely nothing illegal.
 
2014-06-18 10:54:27 AM
I wonder how this would go in the US? The guy was a fugitive from justice, I bet it would be perfectly legal.
 
2014-06-18 10:56:10 AM

mschwenk: I wonder how this would go in the US? The guy was a fugitive from justice, I bet it would be perfectly legal.


A fugitive has fled.

This guy was found guilty in his own country.

I wonder how hard France is looking for the kidnappers.
 
2014-06-18 10:57:12 AM

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Well, that was certainly an unexpected connection for two people to make simultaneously.
 
2014-06-18 10:57:51 AM
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2014-06-18 10:59:30 AM
I read that as Henchmen... then was confused about the Liam Neeson reference...

must needs more coffee
 
2014-06-18 11:02:22 AM

Target Builder: Was the jury composed entirely of childless misanthropic seniors or something?


I was about to say "France doesn't have juries, they use the inquisitorial system and not the adversarial system like England and the US" but it turns out they actually do (albeit alongside and with equal power to several professional judges) in some severe cases and kidnapping qualifies as one of them.

Huh. Learned something new.
 
2014-06-18 11:04:47 AM
Today I'm going to war against VerizonWireless, my corporate dick face mobile service provider of 10 years, and I was planning on having Liam's ultimatum in an IMDB tag to bust out on the operator verbatim when they inevitably can't do anything about the 20jiggabit data overage that was pro-rated in 3 days before the end of my &*#^&& billing cycle : (
 
2014-06-18 11:05:52 AM

Wrath of Heaven: Today I'm going to war against VerizonWireless, my corporate dick face mobile service provider of 10 years, and I was planning on having Liam's ultimatum in an IMDB tag to bust out on the operator verbatim when they inevitably can't do anything about the 20jiggabit data overage that was pro-rated in 3 days before the end of my &*#^&& billing cycle : (


That's going to be an awkward interaction with law enforcement.
 
2014-06-18 11:06:03 AM
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/fog of war
/friendly fire FNG
///happens all the time... you just never should have been here in the first place kid
////Cry potato and let slip the derps of war
 
2014-06-18 11:06:22 AM

liam76: mschwenk: I wonder how this would go in the US? The guy was a fugitive from justice, I bet it would be perfectly legal.

A fugitive has fled.

This guy was found guilty in his own country.

I wonder how hard France is looking for the kidnappers.


There were 2 kidnappers.  They got 1 year in prison.  Life is not fair.
 
2014-06-18 11:06:39 AM

freewill: Wrath of Heaven: Today I'm going to war against VerizonWireless, my corporate dick face mobile service provider of 10 years, and I was planning on having Liam's ultimatum in an IMDB tag to bust out on the operator verbatim when they inevitably can't do anything about the 20jiggabit data overage that was pro-rated in 3 days before the end of my &*#^&& billing cycle : (

That's going to be an awkward interaction with law enforcement.


Haha those clowns??

/send your best guys yo
 
2014-06-18 11:07:53 AM
I'm ok with all of this. That father showed great restraint.
 
2014-06-18 11:10:20 AM
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2014-06-18 11:30:29 AM

freewill: cgraves67: [img.fark.net image 243x182]

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Well, that was certainly an un expected connection for two people FARKERS to make simultaneously.


/fixed that for us all.
 
2014-06-18 11:32:47 AM

mschwenk: I wonder how this would go in the US? The guy was a fugitive from justice, I bet it would be perfectly legal.


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2014-06-18 11:44:57 AM
What a dumbass.  You stuff the corpse into a stolen crab pot and let it loose in water at least 100 feet deep.
 
2014-06-18 11:45:39 AM
If I was going to go to the effort of kidnapping somebody and dropping them off at the prosecutor's office I would leave a note on their body explaining who they were and what they were wanted for.

That way some random janitor or passerby doesn't help untie them and let them leave the area. That would be pretty frustrating.
 
2014-06-18 11:54:07 AM

Smeggy Smurf: What a dumbass.  You stuff the corpse into a stolen crab pot and let it loose in water at least 100 feet deep.


You also wanna puncture the various organs that can bloat with gasses and cause the body to float.

/or so I've heard
//or read in trashy crime novels.
 
2014-06-18 11:56:49 AM
I wonder how they got caught.
 
2014-06-18 12:00:57 PM

whistleridge: Said this in an earlier thread, but...this guy should get a medal. I can't speak for anyone but me, but if the guy who raped and murdered MY daughter fell into my hands, well...I'm no Ramsay Snow, but I might emulate one or two of his ideas. Ok, just the one. But it was a good one. In this case.


I say give him the jail time and a medal. Society cannot afford to ignore the law for people it likes, and he did a bad thing. But the good consequences of his acts should still be acknowledged, and this is where something like a medal could help. Maybe even a pension for his family while he's in prison. But he should still serve some time.
 
2014-06-18 12:03:55 PM
This is a fair verdict. You can't expect to take the law into your own hands without there being a consequence. There is a price you must pay to do something like this.

Now, I'm sure this man feels like it was totally worth it, and I have a really hard time disagreeing. (I'd probably so something similar if I were in this situation.) But things like this can't become the norm, because eventually innocent people will be killed. (As often happens when vigilantes go too far.)

Like I said, it is a just verdict.
 
2014-06-18 12:29:29 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: There were 2 kidnappers. They got 1 year in prison. Life is not fair


I thought they only caught the guy who hired the kidnappers and he got a 1 yr suspended sentence. So as long as he keeps his nose clean he won't go to jail.
 
2014-06-18 12:54:21 PM
Got to give the guy points for self restraint. Most people would have offed the bastard that killed there child.
 
2014-06-18 04:23:42 PM

Gunther: Smeggy Smurf: What a dumbass.  You stuff the corpse into a stolen crab pot and let it loose in water at least 100 feet deep.

You also wanna puncture the various organs that can bloat with gasses and cause the body to float.

/or so I've heard
//or read in trashy crime novels.


The crabs will do it for you long before bloating will be an issue.  It's a time honored way to remove goblins in crabbing towns like Kodiak.
 
2014-06-18 05:37:39 PM
FTFA : "A court in Paris has given Frenchman Andre Bamberski a one-year suspended jail sentence for ordering the abduction of his daughter's killer. "

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