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(Wired)   Why video games are meant to be played at your house with friends and not online with strangers. For you hardcore gamers, 'friends' are complicated NPCs with whom you can interact over long periods of time, engaging in barter and missions   (wired.com) divider line 106
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2014-06-18 09:42:11 AM  
Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.
 
2014-06-18 10:24:20 AM  

Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.


Most of the time they're going to frustrate you, but if you have to move or something you can use them like +5 Backpacks of Extra Hauling and not have to make as many trips.
 
2014-06-18 12:08:33 PM  

Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.


Sounds like someone requires more vespene gas.
 
2014-06-18 01:04:17 PM  
This is why I was such a huge fan of the first Guild Wars installments. No pay-to-play and they had a hero/mercenary-for-hire npc system that meant there was nary a quest I couldn't complete all by my lonesome.

I'm sure Guild Wars 2 is great, too, but I have no time these days to dedicate to it.
 
2014-06-18 01:09:51 PM  
Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.
 
2014-06-18 01:10:19 PM  
It's why I still like the Wii.

Of course, the bulk of my time is spent on Rift and making a video game with the kids.

//They insisted the main character start with a "Duct-taped sword"
 
2014-06-18 01:11:42 PM  
I played online games in the early 2000's and discovered the PKs and griefers.  After that I stay the hell away from other people when playing.
-Play invite only in GTA online, some races from time to time
- Turned off Online in Watch Dogs
- Will not buy online only games unless there is an option to play by myself.
 
2014-06-18 01:12:16 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.


That's what happens when you chose to live in a PvP server.
 
2014-06-18 01:12:20 PM  
I'm glad this is from Wired. I don't have to actually read the article to know I'm not wrong in disagreeing.
 
2014-06-18 01:13:16 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.



And a bunch of lousy campers at spawn points.
 
2014-06-18 01:13:49 PM  
fark that, I prefer to play with real life friends online. Much more convenient, and no screen-sharing!
 
2014-06-18 01:16:09 PM  
www.wired.com
Like I'd ever play video games with that racist. Just look at him. Spewing his hatred.
 
2014-06-18 01:17:20 PM  
If those strangers on-line are staying strangers on-line you are doing it wrong.

/Know more than one real life affair that started on-line
//cheaper than Ashley Madison
//Not that I am condoning affairs.
 
2014-06-18 01:19:31 PM  
I have a lot of good memories playing goldeneye, mario kart, and smash brothers with my friends in middle school.  I have good memories playing WoW with a great group of people I never met IRL too.

I enjoy single player games, but they ones I like the most, the ones that stick with me, are the ones I played with friends, RL or virtual.
 
2014-06-18 01:19:33 PM  
Don't even start, subby. The outernet sucks.

NPCs are idiotic, the quests are almost non-existent, it takes forever to level up, the story line is a giant mess, and there is no tutorial.

/Graphics are pretty good though
 
2014-06-18 01:19:54 PM  
There's room for both, dammit. If online play had somehow never been invented, that's all people would be screaming for. "Why, oh why can't I play Call of Duty with my buddy in Des Moines?"

At the same time, would it kill game makers to include 4 player split screen modes? Just when we got to the point where 50-60" TV's were something approaching a reasonable purchase, game makers decided XBox Live was the end all/be all.
 
2014-06-18 01:21:21 PM  
yeah, when you're a teenager and you don't have have a job or a life or the ability to easily go anywhere further than a few blocks, playing on the couch is super awesome. When you grow up and become a real adult, playing video games on the couch isn't particularly feasible or particularly awesome.
 
2014-06-18 01:23:03 PM  
From Wikipedia for the non-gamer (aka me) "A non-player character (NPC), sometimes known as a non-person character or non-playable character, in a game is any character that is not controlled by a player. In electronic games, this usually means a character controlled by the computer through artificial intelligence. In traditional tabletop role-playing games the term applies to characters controlled by the gamemaster or referee, rather than another player. "
 
2014-06-18 01:25:52 PM  
I don't really like playing online, it wasnt so bad when I had actualy real life friends playing cause you could bust each others balls have fun etc. But when you have some 12 yr old dropping n bombs and cussing at you every other word it gets a tad old. And I just cant get into sports games anymore, especailly now that people buy it opening day and play it 20 hours a day for 2 straight weeks. When I have played them it feels like a pee wee team vs the super bowl champs and it is ugly.
 
2014-06-18 01:27:22 PM  
I play games to get away from people. Why would I want to have strangers yell at me when I'm trying to relax?
 
2014-06-18 01:29:12 PM  
You just described World of Warcraft garrisons, subby. Yet another reason I'm no longer interested in that game.
 
2014-06-18 01:30:03 PM  
I like all my meaningful interpersonal interactions to be anonymous.


farkingismybusiness: [www.wired.com image 850x566]
Like I'd ever play video games with that racist. Just look at him. Spewing his hatred.


I think that is just a stock photo of the Adam & Eve booth from the adult industry con. look at what they are holding.
 
2014-06-18 01:33:56 PM  
Online only multiplayer is terrible for exactly the reasons stated, but the answer is to give me the option to do split screen or online as I choose.

I recognize that the convenience of online play means that I will probably rarely or never experience the 8+ player LAN parties that I enjoyed so much in high school, but when I can achieve very slightly less enjoyable results with about a hundredth of the hassle, that's just the way it goes.
 
2014-06-18 01:34:19 PM  
There is nothing in this WORLD more satisfying than crushing someone in Mario Kart, and then jumping up and screaming "I am the greatest!" over and over again.

/The only thing that approaches it is when your douchebag friend does it to you, when his hands are in the air above his head you give him a solid squirrel shot, and as he is rolling on the floor in pain you reply, "You may have won the battle, but I have won the war." Also, calling him a pussy helps too.
 
2014-06-18 01:36:22 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.

Most of the time they're going to frustrate you, but if you have to move or something you can use them like +5 Backpacks of Extra Hauling and not have to make as many trips.


Yeah, but they have a steep beer upkeep requirement when used that way
 
2014-06-18 01:36:48 PM  
I just wish publishers would start including robust single player campaigns again rather than treating solo mode as an add-on. Guess there just isn't as much money in developing an engaging storyline... probably why we still don't have HL2 episode 3, but we have 80 billion hats for TF2.
 
2014-06-18 01:38:33 PM  
After reading TFA, I really wish them luck in bringing back irl social gaming.

One of the guys was behind cards against humanity -which is an awesome party game. If they can make something half as cool that friends can play while hanging out, then they may have a shot.
 
2014-06-18 01:38:47 PM  

jayhawk88: At the same time, would it kill game makers to include 4 player split screen modes? Just when we got to the point where 50-60" TV's were something approaching a reasonable purchase, game makers decided XBox Live was the end all/be all.


This times 1000.  We played split screen on those tiny CRTs back in the day with shiatty graphics, and it was the bees knees. Now, each split screen would be the size of one of those TVs, and they won't let us. WHY NOT?!

/I'm guessing it has to do with making more people buy the game in order to play
 
2014-06-18 01:41:25 PM  
Both are great but I tend to prefer only playing online with people I know.  Played WoW for a long time and only because there were so many of my real life friends and family playing.  Made good friends with a whole bunch of new people through the game also that I still stay in touch with.  Nowadays I'm mostly a single player with pause button kind of guy, but if my buddies wanted me to fire up Borderlands 2 with them I sure as hell would.  It's different with voice in most games now also.  It's not nearly as annoying seeing someone type leet speak than it is to hear some 10 year old cussing up a storm when he camps everybody.  I don't like it when games have "drop in" activated by default either.
 
2014-06-18 01:42:23 PM  
Yes, we know. The biggest problem with online games is that people suck.
 
2014-06-18 01:42:49 PM  
This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".

I like to play games but definitely enjoy them with other people.  Just really tough to meet like minded people when it comes on how to play a game (when that game is something like Borderlands 2).

/plays TF2 for the 'human' interaction
//tries to play with the 'friends' on my steam list the most but usually it's just on a pub server
 
2014-06-18 01:43:07 PM  

patrick767: Yes, we know. The biggest problem with online games anything is that people suck.


FTFE
 
2014-06-18 01:43:10 PM  
screw split screen.  bring back hotseat.  That shiat should be more prevalent than ever with the easy to pass around touchscreens these days
 
2014-06-18 01:45:23 PM  
Couch Co-op is one of my favorite ways to play racing games. Who cares if I can drive better then Steve in Nantucket, but being able to dominate my friends in Grand Tourismo, or show up that know it all fark from thanks giving (sure call yourself dad) is one of the greatest feelings in life.
 
2014-06-18 01:46:16 PM  
I just bought Wildstar today because I live 800 miles from my best friend, so we can't game together in the same room anymore.

So, in conclusion, you're a waste of time, subby.
 
2014-06-18 01:47:44 PM  

Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.


Friends, Family, Religion. These are the three demons you must slay if you are ever to have an epic mount and a tricked out toon.
 
2014-06-18 01:49:00 PM  
I'm the sofa king.
Sofa king boring that I ask you to play video games when you come over.

/Lou
//Zerr
 
2014-06-18 01:50:23 PM  
Yawn.  Article fails to realize that the ultimate videogame would not only take place entirely inside the game--as is being done through internet play--but would so completely blur the line between human and computer interaction as to make the two irrelevant.  Computer and human players would just become participants.
 
2014-06-18 01:52:07 PM  
Two of my buddies and I have a (more or less) weekly video game hang out day.  My one buddy has three TV's set up and we bring our consoles over and all play in the same room.  A lot of time is spent playing online shooters, but we also at times just play anything we feel like, maybe co op maybe not.  It's a lot of fun.
 
2014-06-18 01:56:04 PM  
Why not play online with friends? Playing split-screen on the same console sucks ass.
 
2014-06-18 01:58:20 PM  
Kids today have real flash and blood friends? How last century! Must be a retro thing.
 
2014-06-18 02:01:06 PM  
I remember when they took split-screen multiplier out of the Burnout franchise, and I thought about how much I wished the guy who made that call would get T boned by a semi at an intersection.
 
2014-06-18 02:08:35 PM  
Couch co-op is best co-op
 
2014-06-18 02:09:01 PM  

Carn:  It's different with voice in most games now also.  It's not nearly as annoying seeing someone type leet speak than it is to hear some 10 year old cussing up a storm when he camps everybody.  I don't like it when games have "drop in" activated by default either.


Also this. I definitely don't want to talk to the "online community" (aka those dipshiats).

/a misanthrope is me?

The_Original_Roxtar: I just wish publishers would start including robust single player campaigns again rather than treating solo mode as an add-on. Guess there just isn't as much money in developing an engaging storyline... probably why we still don't have HL2 episode 3, but we have 80 billion hats for TF2.


It's cheaper to let the online interaction account for much for game content. Building a large, varied gaming world with an in-depth storyline costs money.
 
2014-06-18 02:09:51 PM  
Cough gaming is great when your a kid, but not so much as an adult.  My friends are adults, we have families and work and such.  We can't drop everything to come over for a few rounds of this or that.  Online is faster, easier, etc.
 
2014-06-18 02:09:57 PM  

worlddan: If those strangers on-line are staying strangers on-line you are doing it wrong.

/Know more than one real life affair that started on-line
//cheaper than Ashley Madison
//Not that I am condoning affairs.


This. Have traveled across country for LAN/PC parties with buddies I've met and friended online. Seriously awesome stuff.

Always a warm fuzzy joining a server and getting welcomed back, Norm de Cheers style.
 
2014-06-18 02:12:17 PM  
A friend and I are working through the entire Borderlands series. We're playing online because we live in different cities, and we're having a blast. In fact, I really can't play the game single player anymore.

I'm also a huge Dark Souls fan, and playing with (or against) random players is also fun. In fact, the multiplayer options are the reason I've sunk nearly 300 hours into that game. (I imagine I'll put even more into the sequel.)
 
2014-06-18 02:13:02 PM  
I think you're all missing the bigger issue here:

THIS WOMAN HAS A HAND FOR A FOOT!

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-18 02:14:32 PM  

Antimatter: Cough gaming is great when your a kid, but not so much as an adult.  My friends are adults, we have families and work and such.  We can't drop everything to come over for a few rounds of this or that.  Online is faster, easier, etc.


This. Me and my buds will usually try to jump on together on a Friday night to play for a couple hours after the kids hit the bed.

You can still get drunk and talk shiat to them like they were sitting right next too ya.
 
2014-06-18 02:16:36 PM  

Snarfangel: Best Princess Celestia: Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.


And a bunch of lousy campers at spawn points.


Now I picture people with guns hiding in the corners of delivery rooms....
 
2014-06-18 02:19:11 PM  
I haven't done any sort of online gaming in so long that I raised kids who are doing it now.
 
2014-06-18 02:19:40 PM  
Cheaper than an XBox One or PS4:

www.lifeisbetterthanchocolate.com

If people come to my house to play games, we play analog.
 
2014-06-18 02:24:12 PM  
FTA:
One of the biggest challenges facing developers of local multiplayer games is hardware. Most people playing single-player or online multiplayer games can get by with the controller included with the console. They might have a second one. But who has four? Especially when an Atari 2600 joystick costs $9.95 and a Dual Shock 4 for PS4 costs $60.

The collection's flagship title is Johann Sebastian Joust, developed by Wilson... It pits as many as seven players in a dance-like competition of balance, movement, and reflexes. Each player holds a PlayStation motion controller with extreme delicacy, like an egg balanced on a spoon.


$50 for the camera and one controller, $22 for each additional controller, or $182 for seven players. :/
 
2014-06-18 02:26:36 PM  

smd31: This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".


HAve you tried Champions Online? I hear good things about it.
 
2014-06-18 02:29:36 PM  

tlchwi02: yeah, when you're a teenager and you don't have have a job or a life or the ability to easily go anywhere further than a few blocks, playing on the couch is super awesome. When you grow up and become a real adult, playing video games on the couch isn't particularly feasible or particularly awesome.


This. Local multiplayer is great but it's harder when you and your friends are adults with jobs. It's not always easy to get together on a regular basis, even if you live within reasonable distances from each other.
 
2014-06-18 02:29:52 PM  
As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.
 
2014-06-18 02:31:41 PM  

Ethertap: I have a lot of good memories playing goldeneye, mario kart, and smash brothers with my friends in middle school.  I have good memories playing WoW with a great group of people I never met IRL too.

I enjoy single player games, but they ones I like the most, the ones that stick with me, are the ones I played with friends, RL or virtual.


---
True - never laughed as hard as when we were playing 'Donkey Konga' with 4 people.

/using the official bongo controllers, no less
 
2014-06-18 02:35:01 PM  
At some point, split screen is stupid. I'm pretty sure it's around age 18. I can play with someone I've never met on the other side of the planet. Why is there anything wrong with that?
 
2014-06-18 02:40:16 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark that, I prefer to play with real life friends online. Much more convenient, and no screen-sharing!


Don't batch Just because you aren't good enough to screen watch.

Had this argument hundreds of times.

I now have hundreds of less friends.
 
Ant
2014-06-18 02:40:18 PM  

rev. dave: - Turned off Online in Watch Dogs


I left it on, but nobody has invaded my game for a couple weeks.
 
2014-06-18 02:42:27 PM  

smd31: This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".


You and me both. Hopefully City of Titans can fill this gap.
 
2014-06-18 02:42:53 PM  

LucklessWonder: smd31: This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".

HAve you tried Champions Online? I hear good things about it.


You heard wrong.
 
2014-06-18 02:46:14 PM  
Fark local co-op. Split screen sucks. I paid for 60 inches of TV, and I want all 60 inches dammit. If I wanted to play on a tiny chunk of screen, I'd go back to 4 player Goldeneye on a 15 inch TV.

rev. dave: I played online games in the early 2000's and discovered the PKs and griefers.  After that I stay the hell away from other people when playing.
-Play invite only in GTA online, some races from time to time
- Turned off Online in Watch Dogs
- Will not buy online only games unless there is an option to play by myself.


Same here. Getting ready to turn offline for Watch Dogs too. Find it annoying getting hacked when I am in the middle of trying to  climb a ctOS tower. Did the same with other games that support drop in play like Borderlands, RE5 or Dead Island, because you generaly get some 12 year old buttmunch that joins and then acts like a total tool. Why is Sheva suddenly throwing grenades everywhere and wasting all the green herbs? Oh, xXxWhitePower69xXx is playing her. Oh look, Maya has joined my game and proceeded to ninja loot everything while not contributing to the fight in anyway. Well, I got a bunch of diamond ore, now I can finaly....where is my castle? Who's that guy with the pickaxe standing where my castle used to be? Screw all that. I might play co-op games like Dead Rising 3 with a friend, but only after finishing the game by myself.

I like playing for the story as well as gameplay, and I hate trying to find out who released the super mutant virus when when RandomDouchebag72 has music blaring in the background, and is simultaniously yelling at his girlfriend and talking on the phone and is trying to skip all the cutscenes because "dammit, I wanna kill some zombies, why are all these people talking??"
 
2014-06-18 02:54:44 PM  

The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight: I think you're all missing the bigger issue here:

THIS WOMAN HAS A HAND FOR A FOOT!

[img.fark.net image 660x439]



www.cyberpunkreview.com

"The better to play Smash TV with, my dear."
 
2014-06-18 02:56:16 PM  
31.media.tumblr.com

/obscure?
//lets find out
 
2014-06-18 03:01:32 PM  
I don't have many friends that game, let alone friends that game AND have free-time when I do, AND live in the same state.  Online gaming with strangers is the perfect introvert past-time. I get the randomness of playing with good and bad players. I can either mic-up or not, depending on my mood. And when I've had enough, I don't have to kick anyone out, I can just log off.  Sure, I prefer to play with RL friends when they can, but there's less upkeep to playing with strangers.

Payday2 anyone?
 
2014-06-18 03:02:07 PM  

gingerjet: /obscure?
//lets find out


Dr. Who
Blink
 
2014-06-18 03:04:00 PM  

RobotSpider: I don't have many friends that game, let alone friends that game AND have free-time when I do, AND live in the same state.  Online gaming with strangers is the perfect introvert past-time. I get the randomness of playing with good and bad players. I can either mic-up or not, depending on my mood. And when I've had enough, I don't have to kick anyone out, I can just log off.  Sure, I prefer to play with RL friends when they can, but there's less upkeep to playing with strangers.

Payday2 anyone?


I've still never finished the co-op missions in Portal 2.
 
2014-06-18 03:14:00 PM  

moothemagiccow: At some point, split screen is stupid. I'm pretty sure it's around age 18. I can play with someone I've never met on the other side of the planet. Why is there anything wrong with that?


That person is simply a sufficiently advanced Turing machine. They aren't really people. It's like the difference between phone sex and non-geek loser sex, the kind you don't have to pay cash for.
 
2014-06-18 03:16:33 PM  

meat0918: I've still never finished the co-op missions in Portal 2.


PC or XBOX? If you still want to, it's probably my favorite game ever. I'm RobotSpider on Steam and XBL.
 
2014-06-18 03:19:35 PM  
This is why I like the side-by-side co-op modes of the latest Lego video games.
 
2014-06-18 03:26:27 PM  

FunkyBlue: Cheaper than an XBox One or PS4:

[www.lifeisbetterthanchocolate.com image 850x564]

If people come to my house to play games, we play analog.


www.tokenfemalegamer.com


Yup, pretty much.  And this has a much longer campaign mode...
 
2014-06-18 03:29:38 PM  

RobotSpider: I don't have many friends that game, let alone friends that game AND have free-time when I do, AND live in the same state.  Online gaming with strangers is the perfect introvert past-time. I get the randomness of playing with good and bad players. I can either mic-up or not, depending on my mood. And when I've had enough, I don't have to kick anyone out, I can just log off.  Sure, I prefer to play with RL friends when they can, but there's less upkeep to playing with strangers.

Payday2 anyone?


I haven't gone back to Payday2 in a while. I'm enjoying Wolfenstein.
 
2014-06-18 03:29:40 PM  
CSB time:

I'm not a social gamer. I've tried, I suck at it.

That said, back when I still tried, I played WoW for a while with some local friends. Got in a guild, met people from other parts of the country who became part of the guild, we'd even occasionally manage IRL meet ups, those were fun.

Then I got bored and stopped playing for a couple years.

Two years later the wife and I decide we'll give it another shot on the game. Guild still there, chars waiting for us to but dust them off and quest.

Only, apparently 2 years is plenty of time for lots of schisms to form, and it's awkward when, last you know, these two were married, now they're divorced, but still in the same guild. But don't ask about it, hard feeling, etc. We apparently missed out on a lot of informative drama.

We didn't hang around long, and in the end decided that it just wasn't our thing. I'm sure the accounts are still there, but they'll remain fallow. I do occasionally wonder if the guild is still there, but not enough to try to find out.
 
2014-06-18 03:32:04 PM  

gingerjet: [31.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]

/obscure?
//lets find out


The Weeping Angels freak me out!!!
 
2014-06-18 03:32:40 PM  

gingerjet: [31.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]

/obscure?
//lets find out


Nothing Doctor Who related is obscure.
 
2014-06-18 03:35:44 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.


This is why I never buy video games from a chain store:
1.New, most items are priced above amazon. Plus sales taxes.  I'm not of the age where I can't wait 2 days for any video game. (plus new release games can arrive on the release date from amazon)
2.Used items are usually priced well above what I could get them on Ebay for.
3.They give you next to nothing for selling your used stuff.  again Ebay
4.More and more full sized games are available for download from the built in store at reasonable prices, removing the need to leave the house.

The only plus I can think of to buying at a store is the social aspect of conversing with a friend/employee who has a similar hobby, but apparently I shouldn't, lest I bore or annoy them.

Please, tell me, given the list above, why I should ever set foot in a chain video game store again?

/I guess I might go in there to use a bathroom, or to escape the heat/cold.  But I wouldn't buy anything.
//Going the way of blockbuster
///good riddance
////There is one independent seller I buy from in town occasionally.  He is a really nice guy and sells a ton of old stuff you can't even find on Ebay.  He has no employees, owns the business, and enjoys talking about anything game related all day long.  He also hosts table top gaming in the back.
//My kind of place.
 
2014-06-18 03:38:36 PM  

akya: Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.

This is why I never buy video games from a chain store:
1.New, most items are priced above amazon. Plus sales taxes.  I'm not of the age where I can't wait 2 days for any video game. (plus new release games can arrive on the release date from amazon)
2.Used items are usually priced well above what I could get them on Ebay for.
3.They give you next to nothing for selling your used stuff.  again Ebay
4.More and more full sized games are available for download from the built in store at reasonable prices, removing the need to leave the house.

The only plus I can think of to buying at a store is the social aspect of conversing with a friend/employee who has a similar hobby, but apparently I shouldn't, lest I bore or annoy them.


One of the Game Stops around here has this asian girl with beautiful tits working there.  That's a major plus.
 
2014-06-18 03:41:36 PM  

LucklessWonder: smd31: This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".

HAve you tried Champions Online? I hear good things about it.


It's not terrible, but it's not great.
 
2014-06-18 03:44:23 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.


For someone on a sinking ship, you seem to enjoy chumming the waters. Keep up the attitude, it'll hasten your industry's demise. Meanwhile, I've already taken my fists-full of cash elsewhere.  Precisely because of encounters with people like you.

On a related note, Steam Summer Sale starts Thursday!
 
2014-06-18 03:47:36 PM  
Boone is mah bff
 
2014-06-18 03:51:17 PM  

LucklessWonder: smd31: This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".

HAve you tried Champions Online? I hear good things about it.


Yes and no.

I've tried it and it just doesn't do it for me.  :(

/pretty much all MMOs are "blah" to me.
 
2014-06-18 03:57:28 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.


whatelseisonnow.files.wordpress.com
We bought this biatch.  We wanted to invest in an emerging market.
 
2014-06-18 04:02:52 PM  
I don't have any friends and even if I did I wouldn't play games with them. Games are like books. For time spent alone.
 
2014-06-18 04:12:45 PM  

mr.doctor: smd31: This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".

You and me both. Hopefully City of Titans can fill this gap.


Hopefully but not trying to get my hopes up too much.
 
2014-06-18 04:15:03 PM  
None of my real friends are sworn to carry my burdens.
 
2014-06-18 04:25:36 PM  

rev. dave: I played online games in the early 2000's and discovered the PKs and griefers.  After that I stay the hell away from other people when playing.
-Play invite only in GTA online, some races from time to time
- Turned off Online in Watch Dogs
- Will not buy online only games unless there is an option to play by myself.


i can appreciate playing gtaV as invite only.. i do so with a pal from time to time, but to miss out on the insanity of open multiplayer is a loss.
 
2014-06-18 04:31:48 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.


Because that attitude worked so well for the videotape rental and book retail storefronts.

/works for the company that sells games digitally for one of the major consoles so I'm getting a kick watching another retail industry die a slow death
 
2014-06-18 04:45:14 PM  

gingerjet: Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.

Because that attitude worked so well for the videotape rental and book retail storefronts.

/works for the company that sells games digitally for one of the major consoles so I'm getting a kick watching another retail industry die a slow death


It's going to be at least another 5 or 6 years. Video game nuts adore their optical drives.
 
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2014-06-18 05:41:58 PM  
Counter-Strike.
 
2014-06-18 05:45:59 PM  
Online co-op is the middle school group project of gaming.

/Sometimes less is better.
//Playing with yourself can be a lot of fun!
 
2014-06-18 05:52:02 PM  
My xbox has a dying dvd drive. It often takes 45 minutes to get a game to load. Instead of motivating me to get a replacement, I'm finding that I don't have the urge to play at all anymore. No desire to fark with the machine for that long. No desire to get a new-gen that won't play my old games. No desire to buy the same system again. I'm left with only a half assed desire to get a cheap PS3, but then I remember I'll need controllers and games.

I might care more if I had more time for gaming. Currently, the only time is if I get up before the family on weekends.
 
2014-06-18 06:09:17 PM  

stonicus: The only plus I can think of to buying at a store is the social aspect of conversing with a friend/employee who has a similar hobby, but apparently I shouldn't, lest I bore or annoy them.

One of the Game Stops around here has this asian girl with beautiful tits working there.  That's a major plus.


Protip:  Take the 100+ bucks you'd blow on a couple retail games just for a chance to stare at some counter-chick's tits and head to a strip club for an hour of beers and tossing singles at a full rotation of half-naked women.

God knows the clientele in a strip club give off far less of a skeevy basement-dwelling creep vibe than what you find shuffling around in your typical retail video game store.
 
2014-06-18 06:17:40 PM  
I hate you all, I just want to play by myself till 3 in the morning.
 
2014-06-18 07:05:48 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-18 07:08:19 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-18 07:12:16 PM  
i.imgur.com

Fools.

They only THINK they're having fun.

*sniff*...
 
2014-06-18 07:43:30 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: This is why I was such a huge fan of the first Guild Wars installments. No pay-to-play and they had a hero/mercenary-for-hire npc system that meant there was nary a quest I couldn't complete all by my lonesome.

I'm sure Guild Wars 2 is great, too, but I have no time these days to dedicate to it.


The lore isn't as tight, but they've been doling out content in "seasons."  The first one was kind of an experiment so it had some issues.  The second one starts July 1st.  I enjoyed both games.  I got into the Guild Wars series because my husband and I moved across country from our friends from high school and college.  It allowed us to play together, barring issues with time zones.  That being said there is also something fun about playing Smash Brothers or Cards Against Humanity with a group of friends

Whynotboth.jpg is in order.
 
2014-06-18 07:47:36 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.


His name in English means "My Hemorrhoids are flarin'".
 
2014-06-18 09:24:19 PM  
Here's a plug for ARTEMIS: Spaceship Bridge Simulator. http://www.artemis.eochu.com/

I'm having some beer and pretzels friends over this weekend for a session in my garage. I expect it will start off serious as the noobs figure things out, then it will gradually devolve into silliness.

Here's a vid of Wheaton and friends playing on JCCC3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKIIasfxuhA&feature=kp
 
2014-06-18 09:36:58 PM  
One of my closest friends lives 1300 miles away and we play online all the time.   When visiting him recently we decided to spend a night in playing games and were bummed to realize just how many games we couldn't play because we were in the same room.  Our choices basically came down to Twisted Metal, Street Fighter and anything published by Nintendo.

/Fortune Street win with only three properties!!
 
2014-06-18 09:49:03 PM  

FunkyBlue: Cheaper than an XBox One or PS4:



If people come to my house to play games, we play analog.


A fine game, but you can only play one game on it - unless you buy the DLCs. And the more you buy, the closer you come to the cost of a console.
 
2014-06-18 10:46:22 PM  

akya: Ego edo infantia cattus: As someone who sells video games for a living, I've heard every boring, harebrained opinion involving the game industry a thousand times. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass how you prefer to play or why. Your well rehearsed arguments are akin to telling the Pizza delivery guy why you like or hate pineapple as a topping. Just STFU and give me your money you little crack monkeys.

/Remember this next time you're in a video game store.
//Nice headline subby.

This is why I never buy video games from a chain store:
1.New, most items are priced above amazon. Plus sales taxes.  I'm not of the age where I can't wait 2 days for any video game. (plus new release games can arrive on the release date from amazon)
2.Used items are usually priced well above what I could get them on Ebay for.
3.They give you next to nothing for selling your used stuff.  again Ebay
4.More and more full sized games are available for download from the built in store at reasonable prices, removing the need to leave the house.

The only plus I can think of to buying at a store is the social aspect of conversing with a friend/employee who has a similar hobby, but apparently I shouldn't, lest I bore or annoy them.

Please, tell me, given the list above, why I should ever set foot in a chain video game store again?

/I guess I might go in there to use a bathroom, or to escape the heat/cold.  But I wouldn't buy anything.
//Going the way of blockbuster
///good riddance
////There is one independent seller I buy from in town occasionally.  He is a really nice guy and sells a ton of old stuff you can't even find on Ebay.  He has no employees, owns the business, and enjoys talking about anything game related all day long.  He also hosts table top gaming in the back.
//My kind of place.


Some snarkily says that he doesn't want to be your friend or listen to your nerd rant on a topic he couldn't care less about at the register, in classic Clerks style... and you respond that you'll go to Amazon to show him? What are you going to do, regale the support guys about your opinion about the gaming industry? Put it in every product review? I don't think you even read what he wrote.
 
2014-06-18 11:41:16 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: I just wish publishers would start including robust single player campaigns again rather than treating solo mode as an add-on. Guess there just isn't as much money in developing an engaging storyline... probably why we still don't have HL2 episode 3, but we have 80 billion hats for TF2.


C'mon now. There are plenty of amazing single player games that end up being huge successes in gaming. Mass Effect (ending notwithstanding), The Arkam series, Bioshock, Elder Scrolls, GTA/Red Dead, etc. Those are games that focus heavily on story and content and are still played and enjoyed by millions. As much as the FPS genre has basciall become multiplayer only, there are tons of single player story games out there if you're willing to branch out from FPS into other types of games. One hour playing Arkam City is more enjoyable to me than 100 hours of the latest Call of Honor 9 FPS.

My main reason for not liking modern FPS multiplayer games is twofold. I don't have the time to get good at them and thus end up not enjoying getting the shiat kicked out of me over and over when I do play. And I can't stand games that try to be as realistic as possible...except in the ways that really count. I would love to play a multiplayer FPS like the latest Call of Duty but where you have to actually use tactics and strategy to be good. Slicing the pie, overwatch, Australian Peel, covering fire+flanking, etc. Actual military tactics that soldiers use in real battles. Add in guns that perform as close to real life as possible. No HUD, having your ammo split up into magazines and not just a mass of rounds to shoot. I would love a game where if you reload a 30rd magazine that only has 12 rounds left, that 12 round magazine gets put back on your vest and when you reload back to it again, it still only has 12 rounds. Make different parts of the body getting hit cause real effects in game play. Get shot in your right arm and your character has to shoot one handed from the left arm and reloading takes longer. Get shot in the leg and have to apply a tourniquet+not moving as fast. Have the environment in the levels have real cover/concealment effects. A wooden door shouldn't stop any bullets. Your armor can stop 1 or 2 before being useless. Higher caliber rounds can punch through thin steel while pistol rounds can't. That sort of thing would make these games a lot more fun to me.
 
2014-06-19 07:22:13 AM  

taurusowner: The_Original_Roxtar: I just wish publishers would start including robust single player campaigns again rather than treating solo mode as an add-on. Guess there just isn't as much money in developing an engaging storyline... probably why we still don't have HL2 episode 3, but we have 80 billion hats for TF2.

C'mon now. There are plenty of amazing single player games that end up being huge successes in gaming. Mass Effect (ending notwithstanding), The Arkam series, Bioshock, Elder Scrolls, GTA/Red Dead, etc. Those are games that focus heavily on story and content and are still played and enjoyed by millions. As much as the FPS genre has basciall become multiplayer only, there are tons of single player story games out there if you're willing to branch out from FPS into other types of games. One hour playing Arkam City is more enjoyable to me than 100 hours of the latest Call of Honor 9 FPS.

My main reason for not liking modern FPS multiplayer games is twofold. I don't have the time to get good at them and thus end up not enjoying getting the shiat kicked out of me over and over when I do play. And I can't stand games that try to be as realistic as possible...except in the ways that really count. I would love to play a multiplayer FPS like the latest Call of Duty but where you have to actually use tactics and strategy to be good. Slicing the pie, overwatch, Australian Peel, covering fire+flanking, etc. Actual military tactics that soldiers use in real battles. Add in guns that perform as close to real life as possible. No HUD, having your ammo split up into magazines and not just a mass of rounds to shoot. I would love a game where if you reload a 30rd magazine that only has 12 rounds left, that 12 round magazine gets put back on your vest and when you reload back to it again, it still only has 12 rounds. Make different parts of the body getting hit cause real effects in game play. Get shot in your right arm and your character has to shoot one handed from the left arm ...


The problems is, you're not 12. That's what CoD's target audience is.
 
2014-06-19 09:39:04 AM  
At their most fundamental, every FPS is about as basic as a toddler's game... "move the cursor over this dot on the screen and push the mouse button."
 
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