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(Wired)   Why video games are meant to be played at your house with friends and not online with strangers. For you hardcore gamers, 'friends' are complicated NPCs with whom you can interact over long periods of time, engaging in barter and missions   (wired.com) divider line 106
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2014-06-18 09:42:11 AM  
Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.
 
2014-06-18 10:24:20 AM  

Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.


Most of the time they're going to frustrate you, but if you have to move or something you can use them like +5 Backpacks of Extra Hauling and not have to make as many trips.
 
2014-06-18 12:08:33 PM  

Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.


Sounds like someone requires more vespene gas.
 
2014-06-18 01:04:17 PM  
This is why I was such a huge fan of the first Guild Wars installments. No pay-to-play and they had a hero/mercenary-for-hire npc system that meant there was nary a quest I couldn't complete all by my lonesome.

I'm sure Guild Wars 2 is great, too, but I have no time these days to dedicate to it.
 
2014-06-18 01:09:51 PM  
Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.
 
2014-06-18 01:10:19 PM  
It's why I still like the Wii.

Of course, the bulk of my time is spent on Rift and making a video game with the kids.

//They insisted the main character start with a "Duct-taped sword"
 
2014-06-18 01:11:42 PM  
I played online games in the early 2000's and discovered the PKs and griefers.  After that I stay the hell away from other people when playing.
-Play invite only in GTA online, some races from time to time
- Turned off Online in Watch Dogs
- Will not buy online only games unless there is an option to play by myself.
 
2014-06-18 01:12:16 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.


That's what happens when you chose to live in a PvP server.
 
2014-06-18 01:12:20 PM  
I'm glad this is from Wired. I don't have to actually read the article to know I'm not wrong in disagreeing.
 
2014-06-18 01:13:16 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.



And a bunch of lousy campers at spawn points.
 
2014-06-18 01:13:49 PM  
fark that, I prefer to play with real life friends online. Much more convenient, and no screen-sharing!
 
2014-06-18 01:16:09 PM  
www.wired.com
Like I'd ever play video games with that racist. Just look at him. Spewing his hatred.
 
2014-06-18 01:17:20 PM  
If those strangers on-line are staying strangers on-line you are doing it wrong.

/Know more than one real life affair that started on-line
//cheaper than Ashley Madison
//Not that I am condoning affairs.
 
2014-06-18 01:19:31 PM  
I have a lot of good memories playing goldeneye, mario kart, and smash brothers with my friends in middle school.  I have good memories playing WoW with a great group of people I never met IRL too.

I enjoy single player games, but they ones I like the most, the ones that stick with me, are the ones I played with friends, RL or virtual.
 
2014-06-18 01:19:33 PM  
Don't even start, subby. The outernet sucks.

NPCs are idiotic, the quests are almost non-existent, it takes forever to level up, the story line is a giant mess, and there is no tutorial.

/Graphics are pretty good though
 
2014-06-18 01:19:54 PM  
There's room for both, dammit. If online play had somehow never been invented, that's all people would be screaming for. "Why, oh why can't I play Call of Duty with my buddy in Des Moines?"

At the same time, would it kill game makers to include 4 player split screen modes? Just when we got to the point where 50-60" TV's were something approaching a reasonable purchase, game makers decided XBox Live was the end all/be all.
 
2014-06-18 01:21:21 PM  
yeah, when you're a teenager and you don't have have a job or a life or the ability to easily go anywhere further than a few blocks, playing on the couch is super awesome. When you grow up and become a real adult, playing video games on the couch isn't particularly feasible or particularly awesome.
 
2014-06-18 01:23:03 PM  
From Wikipedia for the non-gamer (aka me) "A non-player character (NPC), sometimes known as a non-person character or non-playable character, in a game is any character that is not controlled by a player. In electronic games, this usually means a character controlled by the computer through artificial intelligence. In traditional tabletop role-playing games the term applies to characters controlled by the gamemaster or referee, rather than another player. "
 
2014-06-18 01:25:52 PM  
I don't really like playing online, it wasnt so bad when I had actualy real life friends playing cause you could bust each others balls have fun etc. But when you have some 12 yr old dropping n bombs and cussing at you every other word it gets a tad old. And I just cant get into sports games anymore, especailly now that people buy it opening day and play it 20 hours a day for 2 straight weeks. When I have played them it feels like a pee wee team vs the super bowl champs and it is ugly.
 
2014-06-18 01:27:22 PM  
I play games to get away from people. Why would I want to have strangers yell at me when I'm trying to relax?
 
2014-06-18 01:29:12 PM  
You just described World of Warcraft garrisons, subby. Yet another reason I'm no longer interested in that game.
 
2014-06-18 01:30:03 PM  
I like all my meaningful interpersonal interactions to be anonymous.


farkingismybusiness: [www.wired.com image 850x566]
Like I'd ever play video games with that racist. Just look at him. Spewing his hatred.


I think that is just a stock photo of the Adam & Eve booth from the adult industry con. look at what they are holding.
 
2014-06-18 01:33:56 PM  
Online only multiplayer is terrible for exactly the reasons stated, but the answer is to give me the option to do split screen or online as I choose.

I recognize that the convenience of online play means that I will probably rarely or never experience the 8+ player LAN parties that I enjoyed so much in high school, but when I can achieve very slightly less enjoyable results with about a hundredth of the hassle, that's just the way it goes.
 
2014-06-18 01:34:19 PM  
There is nothing in this WORLD more satisfying than crushing someone in Mario Kart, and then jumping up and screaming "I am the greatest!" over and over again.

/The only thing that approaches it is when your douchebag friend does it to you, when his hands are in the air above his head you give him a solid squirrel shot, and as he is rolling on the floor in pain you reply, "You may have won the battle, but I have won the war." Also, calling him a pussy helps too.
 
2014-06-18 01:36:22 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.

Most of the time they're going to frustrate you, but if you have to move or something you can use them like +5 Backpacks of Extra Hauling and not have to make as many trips.


Yeah, but they have a steep beer upkeep requirement when used that way
 
2014-06-18 01:36:48 PM  
I just wish publishers would start including robust single player campaigns again rather than treating solo mode as an add-on. Guess there just isn't as much money in developing an engaging storyline... probably why we still don't have HL2 episode 3, but we have 80 billion hats for TF2.
 
2014-06-18 01:38:33 PM  
After reading TFA, I really wish them luck in bringing back irl social gaming.

One of the guys was behind cards against humanity -which is an awesome party game. If they can make something half as cool that friends can play while hanging out, then they may have a shot.
 
2014-06-18 01:38:47 PM  

jayhawk88: At the same time, would it kill game makers to include 4 player split screen modes? Just when we got to the point where 50-60" TV's were something approaching a reasonable purchase, game makers decided XBox Live was the end all/be all.


This times 1000.  We played split screen on those tiny CRTs back in the day with shiatty graphics, and it was the bees knees. Now, each split screen would be the size of one of those TVs, and they won't let us. WHY NOT?!

/I'm guessing it has to do with making more people buy the game in order to play
 
2014-06-18 01:41:25 PM  
Both are great but I tend to prefer only playing online with people I know.  Played WoW for a long time and only because there were so many of my real life friends and family playing.  Made good friends with a whole bunch of new people through the game also that I still stay in touch with.  Nowadays I'm mostly a single player with pause button kind of guy, but if my buddies wanted me to fire up Borderlands 2 with them I sure as hell would.  It's different with voice in most games now also.  It's not nearly as annoying seeing someone type leet speak than it is to hear some 10 year old cussing up a storm when he camps everybody.  I don't like it when games have "drop in" activated by default either.
 
2014-06-18 01:42:23 PM  
Yes, we know. The biggest problem with online games is that people suck.
 
2014-06-18 01:42:49 PM  
This is where I say, "I really miss City of Heroes".

I like to play games but definitely enjoy them with other people.  Just really tough to meet like minded people when it comes on how to play a game (when that game is something like Borderlands 2).

/plays TF2 for the 'human' interaction
//tries to play with the 'friends' on my steam list the most but usually it's just on a pub server
 
2014-06-18 01:43:07 PM  

patrick767: Yes, we know. The biggest problem with online games anything is that people suck.


FTFE
 
2014-06-18 01:43:10 PM  
screw split screen.  bring back hotseat.  That shiat should be more prevalent than ever with the easy to pass around touchscreens these days
 
2014-06-18 01:45:23 PM  
Couch Co-op is one of my favorite ways to play racing games. Who cares if I can drive better then Steve in Nantucket, but being able to dominate my friends in Grand Tourismo, or show up that know it all fark from thanks giving (sure call yourself dad) is one of the greatest feelings in life.
 
2014-06-18 01:46:16 PM  
I just bought Wildstar today because I live 800 miles from my best friend, so we can't game together in the same room anymore.

So, in conclusion, you're a waste of time, subby.
 
2014-06-18 01:47:44 PM  

Langston: Those sound like an unnecessary waste of time resources.


Friends, Family, Religion. These are the three demons you must slay if you are ever to have an epic mount and a tricked out toon.
 
2014-06-18 01:49:00 PM  
I'm the sofa king.
Sofa king boring that I ask you to play video games when you come over.

/Lou
//Zerr
 
2014-06-18 01:50:23 PM  
Yawn.  Article fails to realize that the ultimate videogame would not only take place entirely inside the game--as is being done through internet play--but would so completely blur the line between human and computer interaction as to make the two irrelevant.  Computer and human players would just become participants.
 
2014-06-18 01:52:07 PM  
Two of my buddies and I have a (more or less) weekly video game hang out day.  My one buddy has three TV's set up and we bring our consoles over and all play in the same room.  A lot of time is spent playing online shooters, but we also at times just play anything we feel like, maybe co op maybe not.  It's a lot of fun.
 
2014-06-18 01:56:04 PM  
Why not play online with friends? Playing split-screen on the same console sucks ass.
 
2014-06-18 01:58:20 PM  
Kids today have real flash and blood friends? How last century! Must be a retro thing.
 
2014-06-18 02:01:06 PM  
I remember when they took split-screen multiplier out of the Burnout franchise, and I thought about how much I wished the guy who made that call would get T boned by a semi at an intersection.
 
2014-06-18 02:08:35 PM  
Couch co-op is best co-op
 
2014-06-18 02:09:01 PM  

Carn:  It's different with voice in most games now also.  It's not nearly as annoying seeing someone type leet speak than it is to hear some 10 year old cussing up a storm when he camps everybody.  I don't like it when games have "drop in" activated by default either.


Also this. I definitely don't want to talk to the "online community" (aka those dipshiats).

/a misanthrope is me?

The_Original_Roxtar: I just wish publishers would start including robust single player campaigns again rather than treating solo mode as an add-on. Guess there just isn't as much money in developing an engaging storyline... probably why we still don't have HL2 episode 3, but we have 80 billion hats for TF2.


It's cheaper to let the online interaction account for much for game content. Building a large, varied gaming world with an in-depth storyline costs money.
 
2014-06-18 02:09:51 PM  
Cough gaming is great when your a kid, but not so much as an adult.  My friends are adults, we have families and work and such.  We can't drop everything to come over for a few rounds of this or that.  Online is faster, easier, etc.
 
2014-06-18 02:09:57 PM  

worlddan: If those strangers on-line are staying strangers on-line you are doing it wrong.

/Know more than one real life affair that started on-line
//cheaper than Ashley Madison
//Not that I am condoning affairs.


This. Have traveled across country for LAN/PC parties with buddies I've met and friended online. Seriously awesome stuff.

Always a warm fuzzy joining a server and getting welcomed back, Norm de Cheers style.
 
2014-06-18 02:12:17 PM  
A friend and I are working through the entire Borderlands series. We're playing online because we live in different cities, and we're having a blast. In fact, I really can't play the game single player anymore.

I'm also a huge Dark Souls fan, and playing with (or against) random players is also fun. In fact, the multiplayer options are the reason I've sunk nearly 300 hours into that game. (I imagine I'll put even more into the sequel.)
 
2014-06-18 02:13:02 PM  
I think you're all missing the bigger issue here:

THIS WOMAN HAS A HAND FOR A FOOT!

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2014-06-18 02:14:32 PM  

Antimatter: Cough gaming is great when your a kid, but not so much as an adult.  My friends are adults, we have families and work and such.  We can't drop everything to come over for a few rounds of this or that.  Online is faster, easier, etc.


This. Me and my buds will usually try to jump on together on a Friday night to play for a couple hours after the kids hit the bed.

You can still get drunk and talk shiat to them like they were sitting right next too ya.
 
2014-06-18 02:16:36 PM  

Snarfangel: Best Princess Celestia: Online is easier. Especially if your local population has one of the highest crime rates in the country.


And a bunch of lousy campers at spawn points.


Now I picture people with guns hiding in the corners of delivery rooms....
 
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