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(The Daily Beast)   Why the US health care system manages to be both so staggeringly expensive and so incredibly pathetic   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 45
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2014-06-18 09:18:44 AM
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2014-06-18 11:52:28 AM
It's for-profit, run by corporations out for profit.

next question.
 
2014-06-18 11:52:55 AM
Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.
 
2014-06-18 11:56:03 AM
Short answer: Because the "outcomes" tested do not focus on actual, you know, health care outcomes.
 
2014-06-18 11:56:45 AM

Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.


Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?
 
2014-06-18 11:56:55 AM
That's a lot of words said when you could have just said 'For-profit system with a glut of middlemen."
 
2014-06-18 11:56:55 AM
One giant protection racket.
 
2014-06-18 11:59:17 AM
Because the "free market".
 
2014-06-18 12:00:07 PM

Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?


What about his statement is incorrect? Why do the most vocal, self-professed "Christians" always oppose helping the poor, healing the sick, turning the other cheek and loving their neighbor when it comes to legislation and politics? And they're extremely loud about it. They're a disgrace to what their religion actually stands for.
 
2014-06-18 12:00:16 PM
firefly.middlemen.jpg
 
2014-06-18 12:01:17 PM
Because the chief factor in health outcomes is timeliness of care to the onset of a problem. How can Cuba have better outcomes than us? The sick know they can get care so they do. It's amazing the effect that prompt care has.
 
2014-06-18 12:01:48 PM
because F@CK YOU !!  THAT"S WHY
 
2014-06-18 12:03:23 PM

menschenfresser: It's for-profit, run by corporations out for profit.

next question.


So is the rest of the health providers of the 1st world sans the UK.
 
2014-06-18 12:04:56 PM
But we have the best healthcare system in da wooooooorld!

...that nobody wants to emulate.
 
2014-06-18 12:05:06 PM
Is this a re-run from Bill Clinton's first year in office, when Hillary was out stumping for Health Care?
 
2014-06-18 12:10:37 PM

Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?



Have you stopped beating your wife's meat?
 
2014-06-18 12:12:43 PM

Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?



Sorry, I'm just a little confused. Am I offensive because I called out Christians, or am I ignorant because Christians in America are voting representatives in office that refuse to help poor people?
 
2014-06-18 12:14:00 PM

Infernalist: That's a lot of words said when you could have just said 'For-profit system with a glut of middlemen."

  too many Americans are fat, stupid and lazy.

No, really, that's a lot of what he said.
 
2014-06-18 12:23:39 PM

Lord_Baull: Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?


Sorry, I'm just a little confused. Am I offensive because I called out Christians, or am I ignorant because Christians in America are voting representatives in office that refuse to help poor people?


You're not offensive at all.  One must be informed to be offensive.
Not offended anyway; not christian.
 
2014-06-18 12:26:40 PM

Lord_Baull: Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?


Sorry, I'm just a little confused. Am I offensive because I called out Christians, or am I ignorant because Christians in America are voting representatives in office that refuse to help poor people?


/Catholic
//Not offended
///Religion class dealt a lot more w/ helping the poor than it did hating gay marriage and protesting abortion.  A  LOT.
 
2014-06-18 12:35:23 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Infernalist: That's a lot of words said when you could have just said 'For-profit system with a glut of middlemen."  too many Americans are fat, stupid and lazy.

No, really, that's a lot of what he said.


I have a difficult time saying that he's wrong about that or that it is a major contributor to the problem.

When a huge swathe of the population does not lead a healthy lifestyle and dismissal of expert advice on all matters of science, including medicine, is actively encouraged as part of the culture, we're cruising for an incredibly overtaxed healthcare system that is going to wind up wasting a lot of time and resources treating preventable conditions which takes away from the ability to help everyone else.
 
2014-06-18 12:35:58 PM
Hospital administration?  Insurance companies?  DNRTFA.  Just guessing here.

/CSB:  the local hospital here gave its president a $1M salary, while the nurses got a 25c/hour raise last year
 
2014-06-18 12:44:52 PM

Delta1212: Zeb Hesselgresser: Infernalist: That's a lot of words said when you could have just said 'For-profit system with a glut of middlemen."  too many Americans are fat, stupid and lazy.

No, really, that's a lot of what he said.

I have a difficult time saying that he's wrong about that, so I won't.   or that it is a major contributor to the problem.

When a huge swathe of the population does not lead a healthy lifestyle and dismissal of expert advice on all matters of science, including medicine, is actively encouraged as part of the culture, we're cruising for an incredibly overtaxed healthcare system that is going to wind up wasting a lot of time and resources treating preventable conditions which takes away from the ability to help everyone else.


Fark man, a lot of us are working here.
 
2014-06-18 12:50:53 PM
it's so cute when Americans try to reason why their physical and mental health and well being is less important than a profitable industry.

anything less than Laissez-faire is Socialisumz!
 
2014-06-18 12:59:12 PM

qorkfiend: Because the "free market".

in healthcare was destroyed decades ago
 
2014-06-18 12:59:51 PM

menschenfresser: Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?

What about his statement is incorrect? Why do the most vocal, self-professed "Christians" always oppose helping the poor, healing the sick, turning the other cheek and loving their neighbor when it comes to legislation and politics? And they're extremely loud about it. They're a disgrace to what their religion actually stands for.


THIS.

One of the main reasons that we require government-level charity is because the so-called "private, religion-based" charity market is piss-poor at actually providing service with any degree of economic efficiency.

Which of course is doubly appalling since one can make the argument that the efficiency of government programs is hardly laudable.
 
2014-06-18 01:00:45 PM

bluejeansonfire: One giant protection racket.


well, there's hope for fark yet
 
2014-06-18 02:19:02 PM
because, Obama, of course,
or maybe "Dr" Phil and "Dr" Oz
 
2014-06-18 02:32:14 PM

ursomniac: One of the main reasons that we require government-level charity is because the so-called "private, religion-based" charity market is piss-poor at actually providing service with any degree of economic efficiency.


What? Are you trying to tell me this isn't providing needed charitable services in an efficient manner?

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-18 02:38:29 PM

clkeagle: ursomniac: One of the main reasons that we require government-level charity is because the so-called "private, religion-based" charity market is piss-poor at actually providing service with any degree of economic efficiency.

What? Are you trying to tell me this isn't providing needed charitable services in an efficient manner?

[img.fark.net image 345x621]


That's so sickening and yet who knows how many people are being fleeced by this con artist. Just because people are dumb doesn't mean that they deserve to be robbed...
 
2014-06-18 02:39:43 PM

Saiga410: menschenfresser: It's for-profit, run by corporations out for profit.

next question.

So is the rest of the health providers of the 1st world sans the UK.


Lol whut, eh?
 
2014-06-18 02:44:19 PM

menschenfresser: It's for-profit, run by corporations out for profit.

next question.



American Medical Association Lobby should ring a bell.
 
2014-06-18 02:45:11 PM
'murica still #1!
 
2014-06-18 02:48:20 PM
i read the Health insurance companies (owned by Banks) and Hospital Administrators are doing purdy good these days.

i read the Drug Industry is lookin' mighty fine these days....
 
2014-06-18 03:01:02 PM

Lord_Baull: Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?


Sorry, I'm just a little confused. Am I offensive because I called out Christians, or am I ignorant because Christians in America are voting representatives in office that refuse to help poor people?


You're offensive because you're an ignorant douche-bag.
 
2014-06-18 04:15:39 PM

ReverendJynxed: Lord_Baull: Garet Garrett: Lord_Baull: Done in one.

But I would add a reluctance by American Christians to help poor people.

Does your offensiveness ever get in the way of your ignorance?


Sorry, I'm just a little confused. Am I offensive because I called out Christians, or am I ignorant because Christians in America are voting representatives in office that refuse to help poor people?

You're offensive because you're an ignorant douche-bag.



Got it. People AREN'T REALLY voting in the name of Jesus for representatives that refuse to help poor people.
*rolls eyes*
 
2014-06-18 05:59:32 PM
Good heavens, the article actually dared to say that the entity most responsible for the state of somebody's health is looking at them in the mirror, and that health outcomes are largely based on the choices those people make?

Those MONSTERS.
 
2014-06-18 06:18:55 PM
When the model for your health care is "charge the most amount of money possible for the least amount of service possible" what the fark do you expect to happen?
 
2014-06-18 06:53:22 PM

Lord_Baull: Got it. People AREN'T REALLY voting in the name of Jesus for representatives that refuse to help poor people.
*rolls eyes*


Jesus... John Galt... they're both saying the same things, right?
 
2014-06-18 07:15:20 PM
thanks obama
 
2014-06-18 07:31:49 PM

Brick-House: thanks obama


I wonder if anyone is ever going to get a "you're welcome" from that guy, sheesh!
 
2014-06-18 07:53:47 PM

Delta1212: When a huge swathe of the population does not lead a healthy lifestyle and dismissal of expert advice on all matters of science, including medicine, is actively encouraged as part of the cultur


On the other hand, look what following the expert advice that old USDA food pyramid got us. Carbs? Sure, load up! it said.

The bottom line is that neither a business or political model (and certainly not the unholy combination of both) has your best interests in mind. The business end of health care only wants your money; the political end only wants your vote (and the business end's money). Actually caring for you...cutting the checks that pay for it, that is...is necessary only as a means to their objectives.
 
2014-06-18 07:59:45 PM
I heard in Canada if you're having a heart attack, you have to wait 2 weeks to see a doctor.

/Checkmate libs
 
2014-06-19 07:59:19 AM

menschenfresser: What about his statement is incorrect? Why do the most vocal, self-professed "Christians" always oppose helping the poor, healing the sick, turning the other cheek and loving their neighbor when it comes to legislation and politics? And they're extremely loud about it. They're a disgrace to what their religion actually stands for.


I am fascinated that you can actually type with such an obvious mental deficit.
Impressive.  Stupid, but impressive.

Do you hire out for shows?
 
2014-06-19 10:18:18 AM

ds615: menschenfresser: What about his statement is incorrect? Why do the most vocal, self-professed "Christians" always oppose helping the poor, healing the sick, turning the other cheek and loving their neighbor when it comes to legislation and politics? And they're extremely loud about it. They're a disgrace to what their religion actually stands for.

I am fascinated that you can actually type with such an obvious mental deficit.
Impressive.  Stupid, but impressive.

Do you hire out for shows?


Wow. If you really believe this then you're in cloudcuckooland. Fantasy worlds are great for the person(s) in them, though, so have fun!
 
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