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2014-06-18 08:43:21 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-18 09:41:52 PM  
PLAY EM OFF, KEYBOARD CAT!

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-18 09:44:28 PM  

See, it's true what they say. These things always happens in threes.


This kind of thing makes me question why the U.S. thinks it's better than any other country which has capital punishment.

 
2014-06-18 09:46:45 PM  
In three different states?

Judge Isaac Parker unimpressed.
www.historyrhymes.info
 
2014-06-18 09:52:04 PM  
So, how long before hidden evidence comes out and they're found not guilty?
OOpsie!
 
2014-06-18 09:52:38 PM  
........and the world became a little better place.
 
2014-06-18 09:57:09 PM  
Oh shiat, you need to pay closer attention to real news
 
2014-06-18 09:57:14 PM  
Cool. I heart executions
 
2014-06-18 09:57:51 PM  
f.kulfoto.com
 
2014-06-18 10:03:49 PM  
I'm not against it enough to get into really heated debates, but I know plenty of people who are relatively anti government and support the death penalty, and I just wonder how they think the government has the moral authority to decide who deserves to die.
 
2014-06-18 10:07:00 PM  
i141.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-18 10:09:46 PM  

Vantango84: I'm not against it enough to get into really heated debates, but I know plenty of people who are relatively anti government and support the death penalty, and I just wonder how they think the government has the moral authority to decide who deserves to die.


 I hear you, but in the case of Ted Bundy, the murdering a-hole escaped jail and went on to kill more, until Florida gave him some chair.  Ted Bundy is not killing people anymore, so that's one reason why I support it.

Besides, some crimes are so heinous I will admit that revenge is preferable, so help me. Being honest here.

The evidence had better be concrete, though.
 
2014-06-18 10:10:08 PM  
Well thank God it was inmates who were executed.
 
2014-06-18 10:10:26 PM  
good
 
2014-06-18 10:12:32 PM  

walktoanarcade: Vantango84: I'm not against it enough to get into really heated debates, but I know plenty of people who are relatively anti government and support the death penalty, and I just wonder how they think the government has the moral authority to decide who deserves to die.

 I hear you, but in the case of Ted Bundy, the murdering a-hole escaped jail and went on to kill more, until Florida gave him some chair.  Ted Bundy is not killing people anymore, so that's one reason why I support it.

Besides, some crimes are so heinous I will admit that revenge is preferable, so help me. Being honest here.

The evidence had better be concrete, though.


Yea, that's why I'm not even saying "I'm always one hundred percent opposed", I just don't get the irony of "the government has no business regulating business in any way at all, but I'm cool with them ending some people's lives"
 
2014-06-18 10:16:41 PM  

Vantango84: walktoanarcade: Vantango84: I'm not against it enough to get into really heated debates, but I know plenty of people who are relatively anti government and support the death penalty, and I just wonder how they think the government has the moral authority to decide who deserves to die.

 I hear you, but in the case of Ted Bundy, the murdering a-hole escaped jail and went on to kill more, until Florida gave him some chair.  Ted Bundy is not killing people anymore, so that's one reason why I support it.

Besides, some crimes are so heinous I will admit that revenge is preferable, so help me. Being honest here.

The evidence had better be concrete, though.

Yea, that's why I'm not even saying "I'm always one hundred percent opposed", I just don't get the irony of "the government has no business regulating business in any way at all, but I'm cool with them ending some people's lives"


True, but..I look at as if there has to be a group of people that would do what I would do if I were in their situation and the job had to be done. Say a group of people were out in the sticks with no way to contact anyone-and someone goes blood wild nuts-the only way to stop them is to kill them. Now, is that immoral?

Would it be immoral for me to assign that "job" to someone in society to act in my stead?

I think we have to trust the mechanism, if it's worth trusting.
 
2014-06-18 10:21:05 PM  
Chalk up three wins for the devil, however you conceptualize him.

/death penalty is never the answer
 
2014-06-18 10:21:16 PM  

walktoanarcade: Vantango84: walktoanarcade: Vantango84: I'm not against it enough to get into really heated debates, but I know plenty of people who are relatively anti government and support the death penalty, and I just wonder how they think the government has the moral authority to decide who deserves to die.

 I hear you, but in the case of Ted Bundy, the murdering a-hole escaped jail and went on to kill more, until Florida gave him some chair.  Ted Bundy is not killing people anymore, so that's one reason why I support it.

Besides, some crimes are so heinous I will admit that revenge is preferable, so help me. Being honest here.

The evidence had better be concrete, though.

Yea, that's why I'm not even saying "I'm always one hundred percent opposed", I just don't get the irony of "the government has no business regulating business in any way at all, but I'm cool with them ending some people's lives"

True, but..I look at as if there has to be a group of people that would do what I would do if I were in their situation and the job had to be done. Say a group of people were out in the sticks with no way to contact anyone-and someone goes blood wild nuts-the only way to stop them is to kill them. Now, is that immoral?

Would it be immoral for me to assign that "job" to someone in society to act in my stead?

I think we have to trust the mechanism, if it's worth trusting.


Right, I do agree with you.
 
2014-06-18 10:28:03 PM  
FTA: "Henry stabbed his estranged wife, Suzanne Henry, to death a few days before Christmas in 1985."

Even if you agree with the death penalty, it doesn't really seem like justice to kill someone almost 30 years after they committed the crime.
 
2014-06-18 10:33:22 PM  

Vantango84: walktoanarcade: Vantango84: walktoanarcade: Vantango84: I'm not against it enough to get into really heated debates, but I know plenty of people who are relatively anti government and support the death penalty, and I just wonder how they think the government has the moral authority to decide who deserves to die.

 I hear you, but in the case of Ted Bundy, the murdering a-hole escaped jail and went on to kill more, until Florida gave him some chair.  Ted Bundy is not killing people anymore, so that's one reason why I support it.

Besides, some crimes are so heinous I will admit that revenge is preferable, so help me. Being honest here.

The evidence had better be concrete, though.

Yea, that's why I'm not even saying "I'm always one hundred percent opposed", I just don't get the irony of "the government has no business regulating business in any way at all, but I'm cool with them ending some people's lives"

True, but..I look at as if there has to be a group of people that would do what I would do if I were in their situation and the job had to be done. Say a group of people were out in the sticks with no way to contact anyone-and someone goes blood wild nuts-the only way to stop them is to kill them. Now, is that immoral?

Would it be immoral for me to assign that "job" to someone in society to act in my stead?

I think we have to trust the mechanism, if it's worth trusting.

Right, I do agree with you.


Oh, sorry to retread then. I guess I see what you're saying better now. I for one am not against common sense regulation of business, sure.  I think a part of me assumed the hypocrisy overruled the death penalty, going by what you typed.

It's sad to know that the executed were babies once. :|  Those thoughts occur to me.
 
2014-06-18 10:36:00 PM  
Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp
 
2014-06-18 10:42:29 PM  

brimed03: Chalk up three wins for the devil, however you conceptualize him.

/death penalty is never the answer


Why? If you trust science to expose the truths of the universe why can't science prove guilt?
 
2014-06-18 10:44:19 PM  

miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp


Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.
 
2014-06-18 10:46:00 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.


Ask about the countries without the DP yet do have DA, you know...double amnesty.
 
2014-06-18 10:50:24 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.


Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?
 
2014-06-18 10:54:24 PM  
Pointless and expensive.  If all you want is some vague concept of revenge or blood then why don't we just bring back the public and gory executions of the ancients.  Why hide it?  Just proves that we're the same, stupid apes that walked out of the savannah 50k years ago.
 
2014-06-18 10:56:17 PM  

burning_bridge: Pointless and expensive.  If all you want is some vague concept of revenge or blood then why don't we just bring back the public and gory executions of the ancients.  Why hide it?  Just proves that we're the same, stupid apes that walked out of the savannah 50k years ago.


The next time a Ted Bundy comes along, we'll trust you to house him and keep him away from others. It sounds like you can handle it.
 
2014-06-18 11:04:49 PM  

miss diminutive: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?


In what way redundant?  That everyone who watches porn is a guy?  That every guy watches porn?  Certainly women watch porn, so it can't be the former.  Certainly it's possible that there might exist the male person who never watched nor will ever watch porn.  So I don't find it redundant at all and woman are not the only humans, or animals for that matter, who have breasts, no?
 
2014-06-18 11:13:29 PM  

miss diminutive: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?


Yeah, I also knew someone would catch that the second after I sent it. ;>)
 
2014-06-18 11:13:51 PM  

Prey4reign: miss diminutive: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?

In what way redundant?  That everyone who watches porn is a guy?  That every guy watches porn?  Certainly women watch porn, so it can't be the former.  Certainly it's possible that there might exist the male person who never watched nor will ever watch porn.  So I don't find it redundant at all and woman are not the only humans, or animals for that matter, who have breasts, no?


Of course women watch porn (I do myself) but I have yet to meet a guy who claims he's never watched porn. Of course, I can't speak for EVERY male, but if making generalizing statements on Fark is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic. They tried to execute the guy but screwed it up but then he died seven minutes later anyway?
 
2014-06-18 11:17:15 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Why? If you trust science to expose the truths of the universe why can't science prove guilt?


Too many people on death row have been exonerated because of new evidence and by implication too many innocent people have been executed for the death penalty to be excusable.
 
2014-06-18 11:21:11 PM  

miss diminutive: Prey4reign: miss diminutive: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?

In what way redundant?  That everyone who watches porn is a guy?  That every guy watches porn?  Certainly women watch porn, so it can't be the former.  Certainly it's possible that there might exist the male person who never watched nor will ever watch porn.  So I don't find it redundant at all and woman are not the only humans, or animals for that matter, who have breasts, no?

Of course women watch porn (I do myself) but I have yet to meet a guy who claims he's never watched porn. Of course, I can't speak for EVERY male, but if making generalizing statements on Fark is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic. They tried to execute the guy but screwed it up but then he died seven minutes later anyway?


No, he was watching porn but screwed it up. But then he came seven minutes later anyway.
 
2014-06-18 11:21:38 PM  

miss diminutive: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?


Some women are "more breasted" than others.

i1.mirror.co.uk
 
2014-06-18 11:31:43 PM  
FTA: "...the nation's first capital punishment since a botched execution in April raised new concerns about lethal injection." and "...officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later."

Doesn't sound botched to me.
 
2014-06-18 11:45:32 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "Henry stabbed his estranged wife, Suzanne Henry, to death a few days before Christmas in 1985."

Even if you agree with the death penalty, it doesn't really seem like justice to kill someone almost 30 years after they committed the crime.


You are right. Except Suzanne Henry didn't really have justice either.

Try them. If found guilty,seriously review the case and then execute.

That's more than the victim got.
 
2014-06-18 11:51:39 PM  

skinink: See, it's true what they say. These things always happens in threes.
This kind of thing makes me question why the U.S. thinks it's better than any other country which has capital punishment.


I oppose the death penalty and this post makes me want to defend it.

I don't think that was your goal, but I'm only guessing.

Good isn't the enemy of perfect, fyi.  It's why people opposed to things like the death penalty often lose elections they could have won.
 
2014-06-18 11:55:17 PM  

miss diminutive: Prey4reign: miss diminutive: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

Realized my error after hitting submit and hoped it would fly under the radar. Then I remembered where I was.

Also, isn't "every porn-watching guy" a little redundant? Like saying "every breasted woman"?

In what way redundant?  That everyone who watches porn is a guy?  That every guy watches porn?  Certainly women watch porn, so it can't be the former.  Certainly it's possible that there might exist the male person who never watched nor will ever watch porn.  So I don't find it redundant at all and woman are not the only humans, or animals for that matter, who have breasts, no?

Of course women watch porn (I do myself) but I have yet to meet a guy who claims he's never watched porn. Of course, I can't speak for EVERY male, but if making generalizing statements on Fark is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic. They tried to execute the guy but screwed it up but then he died seven minutes later anyway?


It was his time to check out, after all.
 
2014-06-19 01:40:02 AM  
I feel safer now.
 
2014-06-19 02:28:47 AM  

jmr61: ........and the world became a little better place.


Absolutely !!
 
2014-06-19 02:34:00 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "Henry stabbed his estranged wife, Suzanne Henry, to death a few days before Christmas in 1985."

Even if you agree with the death penalty, it doesn't really seem like justice to kill someone almost 30 years after they committed the crime.


It's just too bad they couldn't do it faster !! He enjoy life 30 years more than she did the sob !!
 
2014-06-19 07:01:58 AM  
sorry it took so long, I hope to the gods it hurt them
 
2014-06-19 07:35:52 AM  

Mugato: by implication too many innocent people have been executed for the death penalty to be excusable.


Name one case since 1977 where it is clear that an innocent person has been executed.

/Look, if you had argued that none of these three condemned men deserved the death penalty because their crimes were ones of passion, or because they were under the influence at the time they committed them, or for any other arguable reason, I would have been the first to agree with you.  I think that strong arguments could have been made for commuting their death sentences to life in prison in all of their cases.  But not even their postconvicton lawyers tried to pull the innocence card.

JoieD'Zen: So, how long before hidden evidence comes out and they're found not guilty?
OOpsie!


Don't hold your breath.
 
2014-06-19 07:39:10 AM  
*postconviction*

/facepalm
 
2014-06-19 07:48:13 AM  

tirob: Name one case since 1977 where it is clear that an innocent person has been executed.


How would anyone know? The cases would be obviously long dead and no cop is going to go out of their way to find out. But there are plenty on death row who were released. Do you really think they got them all?
 
2014-06-19 07:59:14 AM  

Mugato: tirob: Name one case since 1977 where it is clear that an innocent person has been executed.

How would anyone know? The cases would be obviously long dead and no cop is going to go out of their way to find out. But there are plenty on death row who were released. Do you really think they got them all?


I don't know.  What I do know is that there have over the years since 1977 been claims made that this or that person executed was actually innocent.  (See Troy Davis, Cameron Willingham, Johnny Garrett, Carlos De Luna, etc.)  I do not find the evidence of these persons' innocence--with the possible exception of De Luna's case--to be persuasive.
 
2014-06-19 08:21:06 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.


I don't get it.

/no, seriously, I don't.
 
2014-06-19 11:15:29 AM  
I think the fact that we have a death penalty is an indictment against the human race.

Its not that I am opposed to it, as such, its that, as a race, we do such heinous things to each other that we can find it necessary to execute one of our own kind for those acts.

Those who are categorically against execution might change their minds if ever they have to look at the still, silent and bloody remains of a child murdered out of hand. They too might suddenly find that there is a part of them that has not one whit of a problem terminally removing the scum who did the deed. Humane or not does not even enter into the question of the final removal.

I realise that it is largely an emotional reaction, but it is so raw, goes so deep, and touches such visceral parts that perhaps it does come from some kind of racially coded morality.
 
2014-06-19 11:22:41 AM  

reillan: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

I don't get it.

/no, seriously, I don't.


dp = double penetration
 
2014-06-19 11:25:13 AM  

Prey4reign: reillan: Danger Avoid Death: miss diminutive: Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Oklahoma prison officials halted the execution of Clayton Lockett after noting that the lethal injection drugs weren't being administered into his vein properly. Lockett's punishment was halted and he died of a heart attack several minutes later.

This gave me Green Mile flashbacks.

/glad my country doesn't have the dp

Probably shouldn't use "dp" on Fark. You just made every porn-watching guy in this thread smirk.

I don't get it.

/no, seriously, I don't.

dp = double penetration


Personally, I snicker whenever there's a FARK link to the "BBC".
 
2014-06-19 11:46:06 AM  

SevenT: I realise that it is largely an emotional reaction, but it is so raw, goes so deep, and touches such visceral parts that perhaps it does come from some kind of racially coded morality.


Yes it is, and it's the most common argument. "What if it were your kid who was murdered?". Well obviously I would want the killer dead but that's not the issue at all. What if it were your kid who was wrongly convicted by a flawed judicial system and murdered by the state? It's just not something we should be doing, most other civilized nations have figured that out. Life without parole should suffice. Which would be worse than death, IMO.
 
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