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(Mercury News)   Relax, San Jose Sharks fans, you won't have to live with the shame of choking away a playoff series every April. Because the team's moving due to a shoddy TV deal   (mercurynews.com) divider line 46
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2014-06-18 11:40:12 AM
Seattle/Hamilton Sharks?
 
2014-06-18 01:13:31 PM
Damn, that is pretty small money.  CFL teams will be getting nearly $5 million each with their new TV deal and their salary cap is only $5 million!
 
2014-06-18 01:20:10 PM
If they leave, move them to Canada. I still don't think there are enough Canadian teams.

Seriously. Hamilton/Halifax/Saskatoon Sharks 2016!
 
2014-06-18 01:20:26 PM
Simply put, the Sharks' local television contract is not acceptable to them. They think it stinks.

Well, I bet if you ask the fans, they would say  the new TV contract which puts all games on cable without free over-the-air local broadcast stinks, too. Or if you ask the fans in the new city who have to pay for a new stadium and lots of public money perks AND have to pay to watch their new team on cable, they would say their deal stinks, too.

Dollar bill. Dollar bill. Dollar bill.
 
2014-06-18 01:22:17 PM
They signed a 20-year deal at $7 million per in 2009?  Obviously, the fail in that organization is not just on the ice.
 
2014-06-18 01:25:11 PM

tnpir: If they leave, move them to Canada. I still don't think there are enough Canadian teams.

Seriously. Hamilton/Halifax/Saskatoon Sharks 2016!


How are the Rough Roughriders doing?
 
2014-06-18 01:46:36 PM
goddamnitsomuch
 
2014-06-18 01:49:30 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: tnpir: If they leave, move them to Canada. I still don't think there are enough Canadian teams.

Seriously. Hamilton/Halifax/Saskatoon Sharks 2016!

How are the Rough Roughriders doing?


Defending Grey Cup Champs and started building this stadium to open in 2017.  So pretty good.

cfl.uploads.mrx.ca

It will be most cromulent indeed.
 
2014-06-18 01:55:35 PM
The Quebec City Sharks?
 
2014-06-18 02:07:18 PM
Winnipeg Sharks to go with the Jets
 
2014-06-18 02:29:48 PM

LucklessWonder: Winnipeg Sharks to go with the Jets


Was going to suggest the Moosejaw Sharks, but yours is funnier.

/somewhere
 
2014-06-18 02:45:54 PM

LessO2: They signed a 20-year deal at $7 million per in 2009?  Obviously, the fail in that organization is not just on the ice.


Yeah, that's just pathetic.
 
2014-06-18 02:48:26 PM
The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.
 
2014-06-18 02:53:04 PM

meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.


That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.
 
2014-06-18 02:57:06 PM

meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.


Toronto metro area = 5.6 million people
NY = 19.6 million people (2 or 3 NHL teams depending on how you view things)
Montreal = 3.9 million people
Detroit = 4.3 million people

Bay Area metro area = 4.3 million people

Tampa Bay metro area = 2.7 million people
Nashville = 1.5 million people
Columbus = 1.7 million people
Winnipeg = 730,000 in metro area
 
2014-06-18 03:00:43 PM

meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.


Was Dallas not a good example? They get 20 million per year in a non traditional but major market.
 
2014-06-18 03:03:42 PM

mjohnson71: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

Toronto metro area = 5.6 million people
NY = 19.6 million people (2 or 3 NHL teams depending on how you view things)
Montreal = 3.9 million people
Detroit = 4.3 million people

Bay Area metro area = 4.3 million people

Tampa Bay metro area = 2.7 million people
Nashville = 1.5 million people
Columbus = 1.7 million people
Winnipeg = 730,000 in metro area


You're using the population for the Bay that doesn't include San Jose and the South Bay. The Bay Area has about 8 million people in total.
 
2014-06-18 03:11:12 PM

TheJoe03: mjohnson71: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

Toronto metro area = 5.6 million people
NY = 19.6 million people (2 or 3 NHL teams depending on how you view things)
Montreal = 3.9 million people
Detroit = 4.3 million people

Bay Area metro area = 4.3 million people

Tampa Bay metro area = 2.7 million people
Nashville = 1.5 million people
Columbus = 1.7 million people
Winnipeg = 730,000 in metro area

You're using the population for the Bay that doesn't include San Jose and the South Bay. The Bay Area has about 8 million people in total.


I was just churning and burning. Sorry.
 
2014-06-18 03:23:50 PM
I guess the San Francisco Bulls will make a comeback.
 
2014-06-18 03:26:14 PM

LibertyHiller: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.


Tons of NHL arenas got built in the early 90's. Some have aged well but other haven't. I guess SAP Center (or whatever it's called) is on the bad list?
 
2014-06-18 03:33:55 PM
The Hartford Sharks?

/I keed
 
2014-06-18 03:34:39 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-18 03:52:14 PM
@hundreddollarman #LOLSHARKS
 
2014-06-18 03:59:26 PM

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I guess the San Francisco Bulls will make a comeback.


I prefer the Oakland Seals, myself.
 
2014-06-18 04:10:21 PM

Supercampion: @hundreddollarman #LOLSHARKS


DAMN IT
 
2014-06-18 04:35:42 PM
Oklahoma City Tornadoes?
 
2014-06-18 04:42:55 PM

mjohnson71: LibertyHiller: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.

Tons of NHL arenas got built in the early 90's. Some have aged well but other haven't. I guess SAP Center (or whatever it's called) is on the bad list?


Needs moar luxury boxes, for one thing.
 
2014-06-18 05:06:09 PM
I don't follow hockey at all but I must say that the San Jose Sharks are "my team" that I'd root for.  Only reason being is because I always liked their logo.

/ta-da
 
2014-06-18 05:11:46 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Simply put, the Sharks' local television contract is not acceptable to them. They think it stinks.

Well, I bet if you ask the fans, they would say  the new TV contract which puts all games on cable without free over-the-air local broadcast stinks, too. Or if you ask the fans in the new city who have to pay for a new stadium and lots of public money perks AND have to pay to watch their new team on cable, they would say their deal stinks, too.

Dollar bill. Dollar bill. Dollar bill.


There hasn't been a hockey game on local OTA TV here in St. Louis in about 10 years...
 
2014-06-18 05:21:15 PM

LessO2: They signed a 20-year deal at $7 million per in 2009?  Obviously, the fail in that organization is not just on the ice.


Dafuq?  Did they hire Mike Millbury and Garth Snow to negotiate that deal?
 
2014-06-18 05:23:26 PM

JSam21: There hasn't been a hockey game on local OTA TV here in St. Louis in about 10 years...


cdn1.sbnation.com

Bill Hunter. Paging Bill Hunter. Please pick up the White courtesy phone.
 
2014-06-18 05:46:26 PM

mjohnson71: LibertyHiller: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.

Tons of NHL arenas got built in the early 90's. Some have aged well but other haven't. I guess SAP Center (or whatever it's called) is on the bad list?


Honestly, I think it's an amazing arena (others think so too: link1 link2)  It's walking distance to downtown San Jose, has access to plenty of parking and highways, it's pretty clean and nice inside and out... I don't know why the hell they'd want to move from there.  Hell, I think it'd still be a great stadium for another 20+ years.  It's one of the best sports venues I've ever seen.
 
2014-06-18 06:09:59 PM

beefstu01: mjohnson71: LibertyHiller: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.

Tons of NHL arenas got built in the early 90's. Some have aged well but other haven't. I guess SAP Center (or whatever it's called) is on the bad list?

Honestly, I think it's an amazing arena (others think so too: link1 link2)  It's walking distance to downtown San Jose, has access to plenty of parking and highways, it's pretty clean and nice inside and out... I don't know why the hell they'd want to move from there.  Hell, I think it'd still be a great stadium for another 20+ years.  It's one of the best sports venues I've ever seen.


SAP Center is a great arena and is still in fantastic shape.  Perfect size for the Sharks to continue selling out their games even with a nasty market downturn.  Leaving SAP Center would be a dumber move than signing a 20 year TV deal.
 
2014-06-18 06:10:33 PM

beefstu01: mjohnson71: LibertyHiller: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.

Tons of NHL arenas got built in the early 90's. Some have aged well but other haven't. I guess SAP Center (or whatever it's called) is on the bad list?

Honestly, I think it's an amazing arena (others think so too: link1 link2)  It's walking distance to downtown San Jose, has access to plenty of parking and highways, it's pretty clean and nice inside and out... I don't know why the hell they'd want to move from there.  Hell, I think it'd still be a great stadium for another 20+ years.  It's one of the best sports venues I've ever seen.


Not enough luxury boxes, probably.
 
2014-06-18 06:16:11 PM

beefstu01: mjohnson71: LibertyHiller: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

That's how you scare the rubes before you ask them to pay for a new hockey arena, duh.

Tons of NHL arenas got built in the early 90's. Some have aged well but other haven't. I guess SAP Center (or whatever it's called) is on the bad list?

Honestly, I think it's an amazing arena (others think so too: link1 link2)  It's walking distance to downtown San Jose, has access to plenty of parking and highways, it's pretty clean and nice inside and out... I don't know why the hell they'd want to move from there.  Hell, I think it'd still be a great stadium for another 20+ years.  It's one of the best sports venues I've ever seen.


It's nice but ... if I recall what I heard correctly, SJ Arena was originally made without a press box. Mistake on the blueprints.

Scribes, scouts and NHL officials and the occasional benched player watch from a platform set along the ceiling beams above the crowd. From some angles, you had to look practically downward from the table to see the action on the ice. Look behind you and you could watch the luxury box folk. Also freaky when people walked by -- sections vibrated.

They did make it comfy at least -- nice chairs, free hot dogs and popcorn, sink and fridge, plenty of TVs and Tivo ...
 
2014-06-18 06:52:34 PM

bingethinker: The Quebec City Sharks?


The Moosejaw Sister-Biters.
 
2014-06-18 06:56:05 PM

JSam21: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Simply put, the Sharks' local television contract is not acceptable to them. They think it stinks.

Well, I bet if you ask the fans, they would say  the new TV contract which puts all games on cable without free over-the-air local broadcast stinks, too. Or if you ask the fans in the new city who have to pay for a new stadium and lots of public money perks AND have to pay to watch their new team on cable, they would say their deal stinks, too.

Dollar bill. Dollar bill. Dollar bill.

There hasn't been a hockey game on local OTA TV here in St. Louis in about 10 years...


Or in Boston since 2002.

/I'm sure NESN pays the Bs more than $7 million a year
 
2014-06-18 07:07:16 PM

Flappyhead: LessO2: They signed a 20-year deal at $7 million per in 2009?  Obviously, the fail in that organization is not just on the ice.

Dafuq?  Did they hire Mike Millbury and Garth Snow to negotiate that deal?


i1045.photobucket.com

/been wanting to use that one for a while
 
2014-06-18 07:55:07 PM
So this is how Seattle gets a team.
 
2014-06-18 08:50:26 PM

Practical_Draconian: It's nice but ... if I recall what I heard correctly, SJ Arena was originally made without a press box. Mistake on the blueprints.

Scribes, scouts and NHL officials and the occasional benched player watch from a platform set along the ceiling beams above the crowd. From some angles, you had to look practically downward from the table to see the action on the ice. Look behind you and you could watch the luxury box folk. Also freaky when people walked by -- sections vibrated.

They did make it comfy at least -- nice chairs, free hot dogs and popcorn, sink and fridge, plenty of TVs and Tivo ...


Haha yes you have to go way up to the top of the damn arena in order to get to the press box. If you have a fear of heights, things aren't going to go well for you. I'm not sure about the looking behind you part - I know there was a level up there for those, but I didn't go into them. Even when I was lost and wondering where the hell I was supposed to go for the press box.

/have been up there
//not for a hockey game
 
2014-06-18 09:14:55 PM
Why not just try a deal with another broadcast company like Fox Sports?  SJ has a pretty good fan basis and moving it would be absurd.
 
2014-06-18 09:21:07 PM

mjohnson71: NY = 19.6 million people (2 or 3 NHL teams depending on how you view things)


how could you possibly count 2?
 
2014-06-18 09:24:54 PM

hotrod2001: Why not just try a deal with another broadcast company like Fox Sports?  SJ has a pretty good fan basis and moving it would be absurd.


Good question.  Maybe they're gun shy after the utterly absurd deal NBC got.
 
2014-06-18 10:31:21 PM

mjohnson71: meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.

Toronto metro area = 5.6 million people
NY = 19.6 million people (2 or 3 NHL teams depending on how you view things)



Wall Street Sharks?
 
2014-06-18 10:31:57 PM

meanmutton: The article comparing their deal to Toronto, New York, Montreal, and Detroit was silly. What does Tampa Bay make? Nashville? Columbus? Winnipeg? Compare them to smaller teams, not the most popular ones in the league.


You do realize San Jose is in a top-ten, maybe top-5 TV market, right?
 
2014-06-18 11:48:09 PM

Flappyhead: hotrod2001: Why not just try a deal with another broadcast company like Fox Sports?  SJ has a pretty good fan basis and moving it would be absurd.

Good question.  Maybe they're gun shy after the utterly absurd deal NBC got.


I'm not a lawyer or TV executive, but once you sign a long-ass deal with one station, I doubt you can just walk away and try again with someone else. The station you signed a deal with might consider that breaking your contract.
 
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