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(KTLA Los Angeles)   A Hispanic man named José Padilla who owns a taco shop stands his ground to defend his restaurant, and is promptly shot 10 times. LAPD are looking for "three black men who are driving a vehicle." C'mon, which of you guys wrote this article   (ktla.com ) divider line
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2014-06-18 11:32:23 AM  
With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway
 
2014-06-18 12:44:23 PM  
"12:30am"

Well, there's your problem.
 
2014-06-18 12:44:36 PM  
Was he an unlawful combatant?
 
2014-06-18 12:45:36 PM  
The suspect is hatless, repeat hatless.
 
2014-06-18 12:45:41 PM  
Given that it's the LAPD...

Are black men actually suspected in the case,

or is this just the default setting?
 
2014-06-18 12:46:24 PM  
With the LAPD, if the description is "three black men" they'll shoot at five Vietnamese women.
 
2014-06-18 12:46:27 PM  
How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.
 
2014-06-18 12:47:14 PM  
i.imgur.com
Found them.
 
2014-06-18 12:49:25 PM  
"The gunmen were described only as three black men who fled the crime scene in a vehicle, according to the Sheriff's Department."

That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.
 
2014-06-18 12:49:57 PM  
Which is why he should've had a shotgun.  Get them all at once with 00 buck.
 
2014-06-18 12:50:22 PM  
Can't wait til the movie industry finally leaves LA for good, and Southern California becomes the next Detroit.
 
2014-06-18 12:55:53 PM  
This sounds like it could be the opening scene of Pablo Francisco's "Little Tortilla Boy"
 
2014-06-18 12:56:58 PM  

ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway


Depends. If they were heroin addicts they will shoot, crack heads not so much.
 
2014-06-18 12:56:58 PM  

jekfark: "The gunmen were described only as three black men who fled the crime scene in a vehicle, according to the Sheriff's Department."

That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.


This is a fine excuse to pull over every vehicle with black men in it. Brilliant!
 
2014-06-18 12:59:23 PM  
Shot ten times in the chest. Seal Team 6?
 
2014-06-18 12:59:51 PM  
Suspects are hatless. Repeat hatless.
 
2014-06-18 01:01:39 PM  
Well with those wonderful descriptions that will narrow down the search.
 
2014-06-18 01:02:05 PM  
Which was it? A taco shop or a seafood restaurant?
 
2014-06-18 01:03:04 PM  

ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway


Yes, they came in to kill him, not to steal the cash.

fark your imaginary world must suck. Go hug your guns.
 
2014-06-18 01:03:33 PM  

AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.
Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.


What the matter, you gun nuts so hard up for an argument you just have to make up your own to get going?
 
2014-06-18 01:03:57 PM  

AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.


Are those bullet proof?

If not, off to magic land to you.
 
2014-06-18 01:10:41 PM  
I'm willing to bet the attackers are attractivice and skunsessful apecam murrikins who just can't get a real job because whitey be holdin' dem down.
 
2014-06-18 01:13:19 PM  

jekfark: "The gunmen were described only as three black men who fled the crime scene in a vehicle, according to the Sheriff's Department."

That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.


Seeing as how the cops (probably) weren't there are the time of the robbery, how is it their fault that they couldn't get a good description of the perps from the victim?
 
2014-06-18 01:13:55 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Given that it's the LAPD...

Are black men actually suspected in the case,

or is this just the default setting?


Given that it's the LAPD, I'm genuinely shocked that it wasn't the cops who shot the guy.
 
2014-06-18 01:14:02 PM  
I am sure the perpetrators will be apprehended Real Soon Now.

Cold_Sassy

Which is why he should've had a shotgun. Get them all at once with 00 buck.

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2014-06-18 01:14:07 PM  

spawn73: ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway

Yes, they came in to kill him, not to steal the cash.



Why not both?
 
2014-06-18 01:15:14 PM  

cgraves67: Was he an unlawful combatant?


Seeswhatyoudisthere.jpg
 
2014-06-18 01:19:56 PM  

spawn73: AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.

Are those bullet proof?

If not, off to magic land to you.


If you think anything can make anyone bullet proof, you're the one living in magic land.

/and trying to drag the rest of the world into it, kicking and screaming or even dead and dying, if necessary
//it's not like anyone has a legitimate reason not to live in magic land, it's a perfect place full of perfect people, amirite?
///the fact that it doesn't actually exist, and is just a facade over a typical left-wing revolutionary dictatorship, shouldn't matter to anyone
 
2014-06-18 01:22:24 PM  

Land Ark: spawn73: ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway

Yes, they came in to kill him, not to steal the cash.


Why not both?


Why would they? They only shot the idiot with the gun.
 
2014-06-18 01:22:39 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: cgraves67: Was he an unlawful combatant?

Seeswhatyoudisthere.jpg


I'm glad someone did. I was starting to think that I had finally stumbled upon something truly obscure.
 
2014-06-18 01:23:28 PM  

Tatterdemalian: spawn73: AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.

Are those bullet proof?

If not, off to magic land to you.

If you think anything can make anyone bullet proof, you're the one living in magic land.


Well, gee, so how would that have helped him?
 
2014-06-18 01:25:56 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Can't wait til the movie industry finally leaves LA for good, and Southern California becomes the next Detroit.


Pfffft.  Yeah, movies are the only thing we do.

F*ckwit.
 
2014-06-18 01:26:35 PM  
We finally got the dirty bomber!  USA!!!   USA!!!

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2014-06-18 01:30:33 PM  
FTFA: "He was like me; we don't go down without a fight," Miriam Padilla said."

I've known a few women who go down without a fight, too... or for 20 dollars... whatever.
 
2014-06-18 01:31:12 PM  

SuperChuck: jekfark: "The gunmen were described only as three black men who fled the crime scene in a vehicle, according to the Sheriff's Department."

That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.

Seeing as how the cops (probably) weren't there are the time of the robbery, how is it their fault that they couldn't get a good description of the perps from the victim?


They have video:
"Investigators were reviewing surveillance video from the restaurant for additional clues."
 
2014-06-18 01:32:58 PM  

Tatterdemalian: spawn73: AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.

Are those bullet proof?

If not, off to magic land to you.

If you think anything can make anyone bullet proof, you're the one living in magic land.

/and trying to drag the rest of the world into it, kicking and screaming or even dead and dying, if necessary
//it's not like anyone has a legitimate reason not to live in magic land, it's a perfect place full of perfect people, amirite?
///the fact that it doesn't actually exist, and is just a facade over a typical left-wing revolutionary dictatorship, shouldn't matter to anyone


I do believe he was saying that a bigger gun and larger magazine would have protected the guy as well as the handgun did.  See, the good guy had a gun, the bad guy had a gun.  Bad guy shot good guy.  Typical right-wing mantra fails in most real life situations.
 
2014-06-18 01:37:12 PM  

ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway


Really?

Jose Padilla was closing the store for the night with four relatives when three men with guns entered

Five people in the store. The only one who was shot was the guy who pulled a gun.
 
2014-06-18 01:37:15 PM  

cubicjr: Tatterdemalian: spawn73: AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.

Are those bullet proof?

If not, off to magic land to you.

If you think anything can make anyone bullet proof, you're the one living in magic land.

/and trying to drag the rest of the world into it, kicking and screaming or even dead and dying, if necessary
//it's not like anyone has a legitimate reason not to live in magic land, it's a perfect place full of perfect people, amirite?
///the fact that it doesn't actually exist, and is just a facade over a typical left-wing revolutionary dictatorship, shouldn't matter to anyone

I do believe he was saying that a bigger gun and larger magazine would have protected the guy as well as the handgun did.  See, the good guy had a gun, the bad guy had a gun.  Bad guy shot good guy.  Typical right-wing mantra fails in most real life situations.


... And if good guy had a bigger/better gun, he might have been able to shoot bad guy first.

At least I think that was the point.
 
2014-06-18 01:38:27 PM  
they only shot him and didn't kill everybody else in the store?  Is there something slightly unusual about that?  Do not give me the 'but he was the only one with a gun' bullshiat.  In for a penny, in for a pound.  They usually would have all been shot if it was a robbery gone bad.
 
2014-06-18 01:38:57 PM  

mediablitz: ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway

Really?

Jose Padilla was closing the store for the night with four relatives when three men with guns entered

Five people in the store. The only one who was shot was the guy who pulled a gun.


Where were the others? In the back stockroom? Standing next to him?
Without further info, a conclusion cannot be reached.
 
2014-06-18 01:39:22 PM  

AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon! Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families. If he had just gone along he would have been fine. Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression. Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.


Once again, for the critical thinking impaired:

Jose Padilla was closing the store for the night with four relatives when three men with guns entered

The only person in the store who was shot was the guy who pulled the gun. You are partially right: Material goods AREN'T worth losing your life over.
 
2014-06-18 01:40:16 PM  

fredklein: Where were the others? In the back stockroom? Standing next to him?
Without further info, a conclusion cannot be reached.


A conclusion certainly can be reached. The robbers didn't seek out any other employees. They shot the guy who pulled a gun.
 
2014-06-18 01:43:38 PM  

fredklein: cubicjr: Tatterdemalian: spawn73: AngryDragon: How dare he defend himself with a weapon!  Those boys were only stealing, in masks and armed to the teeth, to feed their families.  If he had just gone along he would have been fine.  Thank god none of the thieves were harmed by his aggression.  Material goods aren't worth taking a life over.

Wait...scratch that...the opposite.  Next guy should have an assault rifle with high capacity magazine.

Are those bullet proof?

If not, off to magic land to you.

If you think anything can make anyone bullet proof, you're the one living in magic land.

/and trying to drag the rest of the world into it, kicking and screaming or even dead and dying, if necessary
//it's not like anyone has a legitimate reason not to live in magic land, it's a perfect place full of perfect people, amirite?
///the fact that it doesn't actually exist, and is just a facade over a typical left-wing revolutionary dictatorship, shouldn't matter to anyone

I do believe he was saying that a bigger gun and larger magazine would have protected the guy as well as the handgun did.  See, the good guy had a gun, the bad guy had a gun.  Bad guy shot good guy.  Typical right-wing mantra fails in most real life situations.

... And if good guy had a bigger/better gun, he might have been able to shoot bad guy first.

At least I think that was the point.


The guy was shot 10 times while drawing his hand gun.  Drawing a hand gun is a lot easier than retrieving a "bigger/better" gun.  Good guy still would have been dead.
 
2014-06-18 01:44:07 PM  

fredklein: Where were the others? In the back stockroom? Standing next to him?
Without further info, a conclusion cannot be reached.


Additionally, from the story:

Miriam Padilla's husband and brother-in-law were at the restaurant and said Jose Padilla grabbed his .38-caliber pistol in an effort to protect the family.

They were in a position to see him grab the weapon. Do you think that they were someone invisible to the robbers?
 
2014-06-18 01:54:24 PM  
Attention elderly Asian women in the LA area:

You might want to avoid vehicles today.
 
2014-06-18 02:02:22 PM  

spawn73: ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway

Yes, they came in to kill him, not to steal the cash.

fark your imaginary world must suck. Go hug your guns.


You would be surprised. It isn't all that uncommon for armed robbers to rob a place with the intent of shooting everyone inside.
 
2014-06-18 02:24:25 PM  

cubicjr: Typical right-wing mantra fails in most real life situations.


Provide evidence for this assertion or it will be tacit admission that you're full of crap.
 
2014-06-18 02:26:10 PM  

mediablitz: ArkAngel: With three people coming in armed, I would doubt they would be gone without violence anyway

Really?

Jose Padilla was closing the store for the night with four relatives when three men with guns entered

Five people in the store. The only one who was shot was the guy who pulled a gun.


So you're saying it was the fault of the other four who were unarmed and consequently useless? You're right, if all five had been carrying, it wouldn't be one middle aged shop owner against three armed thugs. I like the way you think.
 
2014-06-18 02:36:16 PM  
Hi!

I like guns. I hug my guns. My guns give me a tingley feeling down there. I even carry one!


First thing my carry class covered was if someone has the drop on you, you are screwed. Do not pass go. Do not collect $100. Showed it repeatedly from CCTV of robberies / police actions. Universally, even cops with a leg drop or on-hip holster can't pull fast enough even while backpeddling to stop someone 20 feet away from knifing them. Class I went to was also used by the local LEO's and covered the same material.

My point? More guns, bigger guns, better guns can't solve lack of situational awareness or just plain starting at a disadvantage. Being armed doesn't fix problems. It just gives more options.

Don't take away my options.

The guy in the article decided to take his chances.  I happen to live a few miles up road from a Capt'n D's that was robbed several years ago. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96520  One employee shot in the parking lot, the rest taken into the cooler and executed.

Bad things do happen. And some times they do decide to leave no witnesses, even in the parking lot.
 
2014-06-18 02:45:40 PM  

primarycolorman: First thing my carry class covered was if someone has the drop on you, you are screwed. Do not pass go. Do not collect $100. Showed it repeatedly from CCTV of robberies / police actions. Universally, even cops with a leg drop or on-hip holster can't pull fast enough even while backpeddling to stop someone 20 feet away from knifing them. Class I went to was also used by the local LEO's and covered the same material.


Stop injecting actual knowledge into this thread. In Fark gun threads, we rely exclusively on formal logic and the Socratic method. There's no room for empirical evidence here.
 
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