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(Opposing Views)   If you find out that you bought a dog that was given away without a soldier's knowledge while he was deployed, should you: a) give it back to him, b) sell it back to him, or c) ignore his pleas and keep it?   ( opposingviews.com) divider line
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2014-06-17 08:18:15 PM  
I wish they would shame the hell out of his ex.

Somebody did that to me my foot would have a heartfelt chat with their ass.
 
2014-06-17 08:26:24 PM  
Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment
 
2014-06-17 09:19:54 PM  
Cut it in half so that both of you can enjoy it. ENJOY IT WITH BBQ SAUCE.
 
2014-06-17 09:20:17 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment


This, so much this.
 
2014-06-17 09:20:34 PM  
The family has been offered $14,000 to return the dog

i62.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-17 09:22:32 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Cut it in half so that both of you can enjoy it. ENJOY IT WITH BBQ SAUCE.


LOL. That was my joke.

Also, return the damn dog.
 
2014-06-17 09:22:44 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment


Totally agree.  If they don't do that they've missed out on a great opportunity to shape their children into worthwhile adults.  That and they're just plain disgusting people who should be turned into pariahs by the community.

sums it up right here: "Now that they know about it, they can do the right thing," says supporter Nancy Wallace. "They can teach their children, 'Yeah this is very difficult, but we do the right thing.'"
 
2014-06-17 09:23:20 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment


That's probably the best move.  I don't really fault the family for wanting to keep the dog, after all they obtained it under legitimate seeming means, but if they've only had it for a few months it's probably smarter to do the nice thing and give it back to the guy.
 
2014-06-17 09:24:47 PM  
Two things need to happen.

A - the dog dog needs to be returned to the soldier when he comes home.

B - the "girlfriend" needs to be taken to the county fair, and spend the way working as the schmuck in a ducking booth...filled with rancid pig shiat instead of water.
 
2014-06-17 09:25:43 PM  
Why is the ex-wife going after the dog, not Robby?
 
2014-06-17 09:26:13 PM  
A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately
 
2014-06-17 09:26:47 PM  
Damn. That's cold. She sold his dog. This is why you leave your stuff with family; not girlfriends or boyfriends, or whatever.


/ If I was less than honest; I might doggynap him for $14,000.
 
2014-06-17 09:27:11 PM  

CruJones: Why is the ex-wife going after the dog, not Robby?


Nevermind, I just fail at reading comprehension
 
2014-06-17 09:28:03 PM  
Feckless douche abandons his dog with irresponsible girlfriend, she sells it, dog is now with a responsible family, where it enjoys lots of attention and exercise instead of being cooped up in some Fort Carson apartment/meth lab.
 
2014-06-17 09:29:09 PM  
Not planning on staying in the country? Don't buy something that needs daily care.
 
2014-06-17 09:29:33 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow.


She sounds like a real keeper!
 
2014-06-17 09:30:16 PM  
This all sounds like a metaphor for how troops lose rights after serving, is the dog's name Freedom?
 
2014-06-17 09:30:56 PM  
Ok so it's June. He left in March. I assume she at least gave it a few weeks before selling the dog which means the other family has had it for maybe two months, maximum? They won't take FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for a dog they've had for two months?
 
2014-06-17 09:31:00 PM  
You know what's sadder than keeping a deployed soldier's dog? Opposing Views links.
 
2014-06-17 09:31:44 PM  
WTactualF?
 
gja
2014-06-17 09:32:08 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately


I was gonna rant, but you seem to have covered this nicely, and properly. Thank you sir.
 
2014-06-17 09:32:18 PM  

jaytkay: Feckless douche abandons his dog with irresponsible girlfriend, she sells it, dog is now with a responsible family, where it enjoys lots of attention and exercise instead of being cooped up in some Fort Carson apartment/meth lab.


.1/10
 
2014-06-17 09:33:24 PM  
I'll give you some back stir for $14,000. And I won't even make you wear a condom at that price.
 
2014-06-17 09:33:32 PM  
On the plus side, he found out that his GF is an epicly self-absorbed heartless coontstain, before he did something stupid like marry her.
 
2014-06-17 09:35:42 PM  

moothemagiccow: Not planning on staying in the country? Don't buy something that needs daily care.


You're trolling, right?

I mean, it's not like every soldier gets a dog right before deployment.  Soldiers at times leave behind dogs that were with them when they were kids. 

The dog is 3; how long has this guy been in the military?

Don't be such a douche, even if this is the faceless internet.
 
2014-06-17 09:36:35 PM  
It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?
 
2014-06-17 09:37:33 PM  
Wow. Such sad. Much mean.
 
2014-06-17 09:38:53 PM  
invite him over to dinner and eat it

duh
 
2014-06-17 09:38:57 PM  
They bought stolen property. It's not theirs to keep .
 
2014-06-17 09:40:05 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: /So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.


She probably felt guilty having the dog watch her get gang banged every weekend.
 
2014-06-17 09:40:27 PM  

gja: Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately

I was gonna rant, but you seem to have covered this nicely, and properly. Thank you sir.




/np, i just did it first. I'm sure you would have done a better job. And you're welcome.
 
2014-06-17 09:41:58 PM  

Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?


This.
 
2014-06-17 09:42:27 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: /So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.


What could have possessed her....

i92.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-17 09:43:11 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: She probably felt guilty having the dog watch her get gang banged every weekend.


Watch?

/okay, I should put down the internet for tonight.
 
2014-06-17 09:45:12 PM  

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.

/Why should the family be pressured to give up what is now a loved family pet because this douche is in the military? Would it be different if he were in prison?  We need to stop sucking the dick of the military industrial complex and all of its adherents.

//They must really love that farkin' dog to turn down $14,000.


.5/10
 
2014-06-17 09:46:24 PM  

mrlewish: Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?

This.


Also this.  I see no compelling reason why the dog shouldn't be forcibly (if need be) returned to the rightful owner, and the coont girlfriend and the purchasers can hash the rest out between them.
 
2014-06-17 09:46:47 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Satanic_Hamster: She probably felt guilty having the dog watch her get gang banged every weekend.

Watch?

/okay, I should put down the internet for tonight.


Wellllllll.... There was that one time where the dog accidentally all over her base....
 
2014-06-17 09:47:05 PM  

cryinoutloud: Bit'O'Gristle: /So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

What could have possessed her....

[i92.photobucket.com image 650x383]


I doubt a three year old dog fetched nearly that much on Craigslist.
 
2014-06-17 09:51:07 PM  
i.imgur.com

$14000? Much coin. Wow.
 
2014-06-17 09:51:26 PM  
How about you don't get a pet if you can't care for it?  If you choose a job that can just randomly send you away to die, the fewer people / beings relying on you the better.
 
2014-06-17 09:52:12 PM  
Let the dog choose.
 
2014-06-17 09:54:41 PM  
I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.
 
2014-06-17 09:56:36 PM  
And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dog and I just want to say this right now, that regardless of what they say about it, we're gonna keep it
 
2014-06-17 09:56:59 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately


A whole lot of this.
 
2014-06-17 09:57:34 PM  
"He who sells what isn't his'n must buy it back or go to prison."
The girlfriend was not the legal owner of the dog.
She did not have the right to sell it.
 
2014-06-17 10:02:47 PM  
Suzie Rottencrotch is a stone cold biatch.

Never trust a girlfriend while you are away on deployment... hell, even the wives need to be checked in on once and a while (or have your mother move in with your wife for a while)
 
2014-06-17 10:02:48 PM  

Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?


I wondered this too. What a horrible women. This wasn't her "only option", it was just being mean because she was pissed off over something.
 
2014-06-17 10:05:02 PM  
i61.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-17 10:06:05 PM  
The article says the family that has the dog is also a military family. You have to wonder if the dad in that family is deployed as well. It would certainly explain their reluctance to return the dog.
 
2014-06-17 10:08:47 PM  
I'm pretty sure from the article that the family hasn't responded to the 14,000 offer yet, so there's still a chance for the right thing to happen here; guy gets his dog back, family gets a college fund, and only people out anything are the kids who'll get over it in less than a week and a few people who apparently make charity decisions based on the last Gawker network article they read.
 
2014-06-17 10:15:00 PM  
$14000? Yeah, my kids would be saying goodbye to Mister Snugglepants. Then we'd all go to the shelter and get a free goddamn dog to help ease their pain.
 
2014-06-17 10:15:03 PM  
If I was the soldier I would kindly settle for the $14000 going to my own account, let the strangers keep the freaking puppy.  Who cares, it's just a dog.  And seriously, why give the puppy to some girlfriend?  Did he think there was a chance in hell she would still be there when he got back?  Those are called wives.  I would have sold the dog too.  The family in question is probably going to get death threats now that the internet has sunk it's diseased gums into the story.  I hope you are all happy with yourselves.
 
2014-06-17 10:19:26 PM  

jaytkay: Feckless douche abandons his dog with irresponsible girlfriend, she sells it, dog is now with a responsible family, where it enjoys lots of attention and exercise instead of being cooped up in some Fort Carson apartment/meth lab.


0.0
 
2014-06-17 10:21:18 PM  

MutantMotherMouse: You know what's sadder than keeping a deployed soldier's dog? Opposing Views links.


You know what's sadder? Farkers complaining about where a headline comes from.

/Jeez, get over it!
 
2014-06-17 10:21:25 PM  

obamadidcoke: Bit'O'Gristle: gja: Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately

I was gonna rant, but you seem to have covered this nicely, and properly. Thank you sir.

/np, i just did it first. I'm sure you would have done a better job. And you're welcome.

Or they could teach their children about property rights, resisting social pressure and honoring your commitments as opposed to the mawkish USA, USA, USA bullshiat that you are spouting.


Unless I'm misinterpreting you, you think that selling things that aren't yours to sell (or purchasing things from anyone who is not the owner) is a lesson in property rights?

Can I borrow your car?
 
2014-06-17 10:21:28 PM  

moothemagiccow: Not planning on staying in the country? Don't buy something that needs daily care.


FTA: Robby has owned and taken care of Baxter since the dog was just a puppy.

And he tried to do the right thing by making arrangements for his girlfriend (at the time) to take care of Baxter while he was deployed. How in the hell could he have anticipated her selling the dog on Craigslist?
 
2014-06-17 10:24:10 PM  
Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?
 
2014-06-17 10:33:57 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment


Ad to the fact that they were given the dog under false pretenses, so it is not their property any more than the owners wallet.
 
2014-06-17 10:36:00 PM  

Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?


In all honesty it's a tough situation.  What was the girlfriend's claim to the dog?  Did the two of them get the dog together, or did he have the dog before they moved in together?  I'm not sure about the legalities involved and what becomes communal property when a couple isn't married.

He obviously didn't want the dog to be sold, but the people who bought the dog apparently had to reason to believe that someone would show up several months later and suddenly ask for the dog back, so this has to be tough for them as well.

It would be nice for the family to say 'it's unfortunate that we were hustled by this girl, but we realize that the actual owner of this dog didn't want to give it up, and as attached as our kids are, we understand he's also attached, so he can have the dog back', as it would be nice for the soldier to say 'the situation sucks, by my girlfriend is to blame, those kids shouldn't have to give up their pet, I'm glad my dog has a good home now'.

Either situation is fine in my mind, neither party is morally wrong for wanting to have the dog.  The only real villain here is the girlfriend who decided to sell the dog on Craigslist.
 
2014-06-17 10:38:16 PM  

Monaro: obamadidcoke: Or they could teach their children about property rights, resisting social pressure and honoring your commitments as opposed to the mawkish USA, USA, USA bullshiat that you are spouting.

Unless I'm misinterpreting you, you think that selling things that aren't yours to sell (or purchasing things from anyone who is not the owner) is a lesson in property rights?

Can I borrow your car?


Although he's a troll, he  may be right in this instance - the article doesn't really go into the details of the transfer from the soldier to the girlfriend. If he effectively transferred title to her, even under an agreement that she would transfer it back, then the family are bona fide purchasers and take good title against the soldier. His only rights would be against her for breach of their agreement. OTOH, if she didn't have title, then she couldn't transfer it to the purchasers. It would depend on the terms of the agreement, whether the dog was a bailment, etc.
 
2014-06-17 10:38:27 PM  

Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?


Screw the kids' feelings. Screw the title of soldier.

What about the dog? Which owner does the dog want?
 
2014-06-17 10:39:06 PM  
I've done and said things in my life that have secured me a first class ticket to Hell, should it exist anyway. But refusing to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was fighting for his country, and then he explained that to the family..... That trumps anything bad I've done.
 
2014-06-17 10:42:30 PM  

Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?


Yeah, I don't get it.  It seems to me the dog is stolen property.  The family that has it now should be in jail.

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.


It's not possible for them to acquire it legally, you can never have clear title to stolen property.
 
2014-06-17 10:42:38 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The only real villain here is the girlfriend who decided to sell the dog on Craigslist.


I would also point out that we've only heard one side of the story. She may have reasonably believed that he was giving the dog to her and that it was hers to keep or sell as she wished. There's nothing that says that his family even contacted her before she sold the dog and asked for it back.
 
2014-06-17 10:42:43 PM  
I read that as "bought a hot dog", which works too, but for the life of me I couldn't figure out who would sell a soldiers hot dog and why would the soldier care?

/Yes, I've been drinking
//BHB FTW!
 
2014-06-17 10:43:37 PM  

doglover: Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?

Screw the kids' feelings. Screw the title of soldier.

What about the dog? Which owner does the dog want?


That's the real answer. The dog should be put at a position equidistant from the kids and the soldier, and they can both whistle and beckon as much as they want.  Let the dog decide.

/"Apparently, he wants his testicles back, from the way he's licking..."
 
2014-06-17 10:45:36 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment

That's probably the best move.  I don't really fault the family for wanting to keep the dog, after all they obtained it under legitimate seeming means, but if they've only had it for a few months it's probably smarter to do the nice thing and give it back to the guy.


They should talk to a lawyer. My parents adopted a police dog from a rescue shelter that was abused and illegally abandoned by her handler/trainer, and her previous ownership (by a breeder who loaned the dog to the police) came up after the dog was spayed, fed and medicated by my parents. The police and the breeder relinquished ownership because of animal ownership and abandonment laws.
 
2014-06-17 10:45:37 PM  

rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.


Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.
 
2014-06-17 10:45:38 PM  

Loren: Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?

Yeah, I don't get it.  It seems to me the dog is stolen property.  The family that has it now should be in jail.

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.

It's not possible for them to acquire it legally, you can never have clear title to stolen property.


You have to knowingly receive stolen property to commit a crime. Otherwise, misanthropic trolls would be running around selling stolen goods to unsuspecting victims and then anonymously reporting them.
 
2014-06-17 10:47:09 PM  

obamadidcoke: fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it.


I'm inclined to think it would be reasonable to expect the girlfriend to say, "I don't want it, dude. Find someone else to take care of it."
 
2014-06-17 10:47:41 PM  

baka-san: I wish they would shame the hell out of his ex.

Somebody did that to me my foot would have a heartfelt chat with their ass.


Yeah if my gf did that shiat to me when I was deployed, I'd come back and pull some Breaking Bad shiat and dissolve her in acid, but wouldn't kill her first.
 
2014-06-17 10:47:54 PM  

Theaetetus: doglover: Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?

Screw the kids' feelings. Screw the title of soldier.

What about the dog? Which owner does the dog want?

That's the real answer. The dog should be put at a position equidistant from the kids and the soldier, and they can both whistle and beckon as much as they want.  Let the dog decide.

/"Apparently, he wants his testicles back, from the way he's licking..."


Like you wouldn't if you could.
 
2014-06-17 10:49:20 PM  

Dirty J1: I've done and said things in my life that have secured me a first class ticket to Hell, should it exist anyway. But refusing to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was fighting for his country, and then he explained that to the family..... That trumps anything bad I've done.


What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was working on an oil rig?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was on vacation out of the country?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was in jail?

Does "fighting for his country" somehow elevate the badness of what this family did? What about the fact that they also have family members in the military - does that negate his military service? Does one branch trump another? What if they got the dog to help with the PTSD of their son, who just came back from fighting for his country? Would that make this guy a bigger jerk for asking for it back?

There's a reason that emotional pleas make bad arguments.
 
2014-06-17 10:49:50 PM  
His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist

Whatever happens, I think we can all agree she dies soon of syphilitic gangrene.
 
2014-06-17 10:52:22 PM  
Shiba thread?
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2014-06-17 10:53:06 PM  

doglover: Theaetetus: /"Apparently, he wants his testicles back, from the way he's licking..."

Like you wouldn't if you could.


Lick a dog's balls? That's seems more up your alley, doglover.
 
2014-06-17 10:54:54 PM  

Theaetetus: Dirty J1: I've done and said things in my life that have secured me a first class ticket to Hell, should it exist anyway. But refusing to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was fighting for his country, and then he explained that to the family..... That trumps anything bad I've done.

What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was working on an oil rig?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was on vacation out of the country?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was in jail?

Does "fighting for his country" somehow elevate the badness of what this family did? What about the fact that they also have family members in the military - does that negate his military service? Does one branch trump another? What if they got the dog to help with the PTSD of their son, who just came back from fighting for his country? Would that make this guy a bigger jerk for asking for it back?

There's a reason that emotional pleas make bad arguments.


The real plea here sir is that the caretaker broke their bond and trafficked in personal property (for such pets still are) behind the owner's back.

If she fences his car and clothes while he was deployed, has he a right to demand them back?
 
2014-06-17 10:55:42 PM  

mesmer242: The article says the family that has the dog is also a military family.


You're going to make gristle boy's head explode.
 
2014-06-17 10:57:32 PM  

IlGreven: MutantMotherMouse: You know what's sadder than keeping a deployed soldier's dog? Opposing Views links.

You know what's sadder? Farkers complaining about where a headline comes from.

/Jeez, get over it!


Your blog still sucks, Groberman.

/not that I could do any better
//but it sucks nonetheless
 
2014-06-17 11:01:22 PM  

Theaetetus: Dirty J1: I've done and said things in my life that have secured me a first class ticket to Hell, should it exist anyway. But refusing to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was fighting for his country, and then he explained that to the family..... That trumps anything bad I've done.

What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was working on an oil rig?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was on vacation out of the country?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was in jail?

Does "fighting for his country" somehow elevate the badness of what this family did? What about the fact that they also have family members in the military - does that negate his military service? Does one branch trump another? What if they got the dog to help with the PTSD of their son, who just came back from fighting for his country? Would that make this guy a bigger jerk for asking for it back?

There's a reason that emotional pleas make bad arguments.


I'm not saying one of them scenarios is worse than the other, was just stating this particular one. If he were away on an oil rig, vacation, or jail it would be equally as farked up. The article also didnt state whether they got it for PTSD or whatever either. The kids who just got the dog bought for them on Craigslist will get over it, more so than the guy who raised it and had it essentially stolen from him. Trust me, the kids would be fine and maybe benefit from giving the dog back as a kind gesture, they will learn a valuable life lesson. Even if they're broken up over it they will get over it. I was 10 when my dad made me shoot my own sick dog in the head to end his misery. I got over it. I was 10.
 
2014-06-17 11:04:18 PM  

mesmer242: The article says the family that has the dog is also a military family.


Sounds like the beginning of a Robert Rodríguez movie. Let them fight it out at point-blank range!
 
2014-06-17 11:04:28 PM  

obamadidcoke: Monaro: obamadidcoke: Bit'O'Gristle: gja: Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately

I was gonna rant, but you seem to have covered this nicely, and properly. Thank you sir.

/np, i just did it first. I'm sure you would have done a better job. And you're welcome.

Or they could teach their children about property rights, resisting social pressure and honoring your commitments as opposed to the mawkish USA, USA, USA bullshiat that you are spouting.

Unless I'm misinterpreting you, you think that selling things that aren't yours to sell (or purchasing things from anyone who is not the owner) is a lesson in property rights?

Can I borrow your car?

The ability to sell this piece of property is not addressed in this article. We do not know that she did not have a legal right to sell the dog. If she did not then the soldier needs to urge that she is prosecuted and sue her in civil court.


Really....he needs to kick the shiat out of her in the front yard of the family that has his dog. Make a point to the whole group of moldy douche bags and the snowflakes about consequences, lies, theft and loyalty. Take his dog and go on about his business.
/Army Brat(ette) who learned those lessons as a farking child.
 
2014-06-17 11:10:09 PM  
This whole situation sounds like a shiatty country song.
 
2014-06-17 11:12:47 PM  

Dirty J1: rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.

Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.


Pets are not anywhere near people.

How can you have such a low opinion of children that you think they're little better than animals?
 
2014-06-17 11:13:40 PM  
They won't have a moment's peace until they do the right thing. They deserve everything they have coming to them.
 
2014-06-17 11:14:01 PM  

obamadidcoke: Dirty J1: rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.

Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.

It is not a child it is just a dog.


Well that's a fine opinion for you, but some people, like the fellow in this story, love their dogs like family members. Saying its "just a dog" sounds like something a Christian douche who believes humans are king dick and are better than anything would say. Am I right? Did i hit the nail on the head there?
 
2014-06-17 11:16:57 PM  

rustypouch: Dirty J1: rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.

Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.

Pets are not anywhere near people.

How can you have such a low opinion of children that you think they're little better than animals?


Well personally thats just the way i am so suck it. However all I'm saying here is that some people love their pets enough to consider them family members. This guy essentially had a family member that was taken away agains his will.
 
2014-06-17 11:17:37 PM  
"No one wants to give them any negative publicity," Wallace explains. "We just really want Baxter back home with Robby."


Quite the contrary, they should be completely exposed and whoever the head of that family is who made the decision to be fu**ing scumbags and not do the right thing without any hesitation whatsoever should be shamed to their dying days.
 
2014-06-17 11:19:33 PM  

rustypouch: Dirty J1: rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.

Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.

Pets are not anywhere near people.

How can you have such a low opinion of children that you think they're little better than animals?


And as I said in a similar comment, you seem like a Christian douche who believes humans are elite king dicks and everything else is below us and doesn't matter. I bet I'm right.
 
2014-06-17 11:21:46 PM  

obamadidcoke: Dirty J1: obamadidcoke: Dirty J1: rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.

Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.

It is not a child it is just a dog.

Well that's a fine opinion for you, but some people, like the fellow in this story, love their dogs like family members. Saying its "just a dog" sounds like something a Christian douche who believes humans are king dick and are better than anything would say. Am I right? Did i hit the nail on the head there?

I'm an atheist and it's still just a dog.

Animals are ether property or food sometimes both.


Well whatever opinion keeps you happy. I'm going to assume then that either you aren't a pet owner, or you are a very shiatty pet owner.
 
2014-06-17 11:24:04 PM  

Dirty J1: I was 10 when my dad made me shoot my own sick dog in the head to end his misery. I got over it.


It's just like shooting a kid.
 
2014-06-17 11:24:59 PM  
Why don't they take a third option and sell the girlfriend on craigslist?
 
2014-06-17 11:30:46 PM  

doctor wu: "No one wants to give them any negative publicity," Wallace explains. "We just really want Baxter back home with Robby."


Quite the contrary, they should be completely exposed and whoever the head of that family is who made the decision to be fu**ing scumbags and not do the right thing without any hesitation whatsoever should be shamed to their dying days.


They pretty much have shiatty publicity already. I mean, not too many people here have nice things to say about them, and I'm sure the attitude is the same no matter where they read the story. Maybe they didnt want negative publicity, but wit something like this it kind of comes with the territory once the story is out.
 
2014-06-17 11:42:54 PM  

Theaetetus: Loren: Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?

Yeah, I don't get it.  It seems to me the dog is stolen property.  The family that has it now should be in jail.

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of --story.

--It's not possible for them to acquire it legally, you can never have clear title to stolen property.

You have to knowingly receive stolen property to commit a crime. Otherwise, misanthropic trolls would be running around selling stolen goods to unsuspecting victims and then anonymously reporting them.


No, you do not have to knowingly receive stolen property to be charged.  If this was the case, every thief would just say, 'I didn't know it was stolen'.  Oh wait, that IS what they say.

In any case, aside from being charged, when it comes to light you have stolen property, you must give it up.  In this case, if the family gave $5,000 for the dog to the girlfriend, they are simply out that money until they can get some back from the girlfriend if ever.
 
2014-06-17 11:42:56 PM  
"His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist. "

I swear to farking god! Craigslist needs to be erased from the Internet, it's admins tossed live into woodchippers, and their children sold off to the Saudis! Absolutely nothing good has ever come from that horrible site!
 
2014-06-17 11:45:28 PM  

Dirty J1: rustypouch: Dirty J1: rustypouch: I don't see what the big deal is.

He can get a new one for almost nothing. In fact, the pound kills the ones they can't give away.

Are you not a pet owner? There's a special bond between a man and a dog he raises from a puppy, it's damn close to being a child. So imagine someone watching your kid while you're away fighting a war, then they put him with an adoptive family who refuses to give him back. What, you just go to an adoption agency and adopt a new kid? Kinda the same concept.

Pets are not anywhere near people.

How can you have such a low opinion of children that you think they're little better than animals?

And as I said in a similar comment, you seem like a Christian douche who believes humans are elite king dicks and everything else is below us and doesn't matter. I bet I'm right.


How much are you willing to bet?
 
2014-06-17 11:45:46 PM  

obamadidcoke: CSB

I went into the army when I was 17. I had to give away a dog that I had since I was 12 and raised from a puppy. It was sad but I got over it. That's just what you do, you make sacrifices and you suck it up and drive on. If you can't take care of the pet you shouldn't have the pet.

What kind of a pussy is this guy? He should be happy that the dog has a stable loving home.

Now he can focus on doing his job and making sure that his buddies survive their Afghan Adventure, which is infinitely more important than a dog

/Ultimately this guy joined an army at war. He knew he would be deployed, but he expected someone else to pick up his slack. She decided that she did not want too, tough shiat. Maybe he will learn an important lesson about personal responsibility.

//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.


You see your situation is different. You consciously gave up your dog as a catch for joining the army. Joining the military is chock full of sacrifices, but ones you have the option to make. You had the option to not join and keep your dog, you made the decision. No one held a gun to your head and said "join the army." The draft hasn't come back yet. This guys story is different. He had a dog that he loved and wanted to keep, and he loved his gf enough to trust her with his dog. He was then betrayed by said girlfriend and his dog that he intended and was capable of keeping upon returning was illegally just sold away. And to add insult to injury, to rectify this he explained the situation to the illegitimate owners and they said, in a nut shell, "fark you." He didnt choose to give up his dog, It was essentially stolen.
 
2014-06-17 11:46:32 PM  

obamadidcoke: CSB

I went into the army when I was 17. I had to give away a dog that I had since I was 12 and raised from a puppy. It was sad but I got over it. That's just what you do, you make sacrifices and you suck it up and drive on. If you can't take care of the pet you shouldn't have the pet.

What kind of a pussy is this guy? He should be happy that the dog has a stable loving home.

Now he can focus on doing his job and making sure that his buddies survive their Afghan Adventure, which is infinitely more important than a dog

/Ultimately this guy joined an army at war. He knew he would be deployed, but he expected someone else to pick up his slack. She decided that she did not want too, tough shiat. Maybe he will learn an important lesson about personal responsibility.

//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.


I wonder whose alt this is?
 
2014-06-17 11:47:30 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Theaetetus: Loren: Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?

Yeah, I don't get it.  It seems to me the dog is stolen property.  The family that has it now should be in jail.

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of --story.

--It's not possible for them to acquire it legally, you can never have clear title to stolen property.

You have to knowingly receive stolen property to commit a crime. Otherwise, misanthropic trolls would be running around selling stolen goods to unsuspecting victims and then anonymously reporting them.

No, you do not have to knowingly receive stolen property to be charged.  If this was the case, every thief would just say, 'I didn't know it was stolen'.  Oh wait, that IS what they say.

In any case, aside from being charged, when it comes to light you have stolen property, you must give it up.  In this case, if the family gave $5,000 for the dog to the girlfriend, they are simply out that money until they can get some back from the girlfriend if ever.


The laws regarding animals acquired in good faith from third parties controlling but not owning the animals are different than other property types, depending on the states. The final ownership likewise is different. Did the girlfriend have any legal right to sell the dog? Either way, it is a civil matter.
 
2014-06-17 11:47:53 PM  
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2014-06-17 11:49:46 PM  
F*ck this thread.
 
2014-06-17 11:49:51 PM  

Monaro: mesmer242: The article says the family that has the dog is also a military family.

Sounds like the beginning of a Robert Rodríguez movie. Let them fight it out at point-blank range!


Fighting over a dog? That's a ridiculous enough premise for a Coen brothers film. The showdown would be set in Afghanistan of course.
 
2014-06-17 11:50:16 PM  

obamadidcoke: /Ultimately this guy joined an army at war. He knew he would be deployed, but he expected someone else to pick up his slack. She decided that she did not want too, tough shiat. Maybe he will learn an important lesson about personal responsibility.


Apparently personal responsibility is an important lesson the girlfriend has failed to learn.
 
2014-06-17 11:50:54 PM  

obamadidcoke: CSB
 
//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.


Awesome.   Next time you take your car to the shop to get it worked on and the mechanic just takes off at lunch with your car and sells it, we can say "tough shiat ODC, nobody made you leave it at that dealer.
 
2014-06-17 11:52:07 PM  

obamadidcoke: CSB

I went into the army when I was 17. I had to give away a dog that I had since I was 12 and raised from a puppy. I blahblahblah...


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-17 11:57:04 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?

In all honesty it's a tough situation.  What was the girlfriend's claim to the dog?  Did the two of them get the dog together, or did he have the dog before they moved in together?  I'm not sure about the legalities involved and what becomes communal property when a couple isn't married.

He obviously didn't want the dog to be sold, but the people who bought the dog apparently had to reason to believe that someone would show up several months later and suddenly ask for the dog back, so this has to be tough for them as well.

It would be nice for the family to say 'it's unfortunate that we were hustled by this girl, but we realize that the actual owner of this dog didn't want to give it up, and as attached as our kids are, we understand he's also attached, so he can have the dog back', as it would be nice for the soldier to say 'the situation sucks, by my girlfriend is to blame, those kids shouldn't have to give up their pet, I'm glad my dog has a good home now'.

Either situation is fine in my mind, neither party is morally wrong for wanting to have the dog.  The only real villain here is the girlfriend who decided to sell the dog on Craigslist.


The article states that the soldier has owned and raised the dog since it was a puppy, so I think it's safe to say he had the dog long before his relationship with the girlfriend started.
 
2014-06-18 12:00:12 AM  

TV's Vinnie: "His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist. "

I swear to farking god! Craigslist needs to be erased from the Internet, it's admins tossed live into woodchippers, and their children sold off to the Saudis! Absolutely nothing good has ever come from that horrible site!


Eh. I got a nice futon once...
 
2014-06-18 12:02:11 AM  
Kids want a dog that bad. Slap a collar on the ex GF she sounds like she'd make a perfect biatch.
 
2014-06-18 12:02:42 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Cut it in half so that both of you can enjoy it. ENJOY IT WITH BBQ SAUCE.


you sound like a problem solver.
 
2014-06-18 12:08:52 AM  
Um... dogs are property.  Receiving stolen property doesn't make it yours.  If everyone agrees that it's the same dog, it still belongs to the original owner.  It also doesn't matter whether the person that stole the property is a girlfriend or boyfriend, the only grey area is if they're your actual spouse.

This doesn't just apply to dogs bought on craigslist, but anything you buy anywhere.
 
2014-06-18 12:09:40 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: TuteTibiImperes: Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?

In all honesty it's a tough situation.  What was the girlfriend's claim to the dog?  Did the two of them get the dog together, or did he have the dog before they moved in together?  I'm not sure about the legalities involved and what becomes communal property when a couple isn't married.

He obviously didn't want the dog to be sold, but the people who bought the dog apparently had to reason to believe that someone would show up several months later and suddenly ask for the dog back, so this has to be tough for them as well.

It would be nice for the family to say 'it's unfortunate that we were hustled by this girl, but we realize that the actual owner of this dog didn't want to give it up, and as attached as our kids are, we understand he's also attached, so he can have the dog back', as it would be nice for the soldier to say 'the situation sucks, by my girlfriend is to blame, those kids shouldn't have to give up their pet, I'm glad my dog has a good home now'.

Either situation is fine in my mind, neither party is morally wrong for wanting to have the dog.  The only real villain here is the girlfriend who decided to sell the dog on Craigslist.

The article states that the soldier has owned and raised the dog since it was a puppy, so I think it's safe to say he had the dog long before his relationship with the girlfriend started.


It says the dog is three years old.  Having the same girlfriends for at least three years wouldn't be a weird thing.  The whole thing is light on details though, and she did a shiatty thing by selling it either way.
 
2014-06-18 12:27:14 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: The whole thing is light on details though, and she did a shiatty thing by selling it either way.


I still must point out that we've heard only one of three sides in this event, but that everyone is ready to jump on the girlfriend. I wonder if the reaction would be the same if the genders were reversed - female soldier, boyfriend who sells the dog.
 
2014-06-18 12:30:44 AM  
my ex did the exact same farking thing with one of our kittens when I was in Germany on a training exercise prior to a combat deployment.  yet another reason to hate that coont...
 
2014-06-18 12:31:10 AM  

Theaetetus: TuteTibiImperes: The whole thing is light on details though, and she did a shiatty thing by selling it either way.

I still must point out that we've heard only one of three sides in this event, but that everyone is ready to jump on the girlfriend. I wonder if the reaction would be the same if the genders were reversed - female soldier, boyfriend who sells the dog.


We'd probably be calling him a dick instead of a biatch, but the same sentiments would apply.
 
2014-06-18 12:35:04 AM  

TV's Vinnie: "His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist. "

I swear to farking god! Craigslist needs to be erased from the Internet, it's admins tossed live into woodchippers, and their children sold off to the Saudis! Absolutely nothing good has ever come from that horrible site!


I got '65 Chevy Malibu, with automatic drive, custom paint job too...
 
2014-06-18 12:42:59 AM  

Theaetetus: everyone is ready to jump on the girlfriend. I wonder if the reaction would be the same if the genders were reversed


The girlfriend, the soldier, and the family have all been attacked in this thread.

TuteTibiImperes: the same sentiments would apply.


Obviously you are wrong and it is sexism at play. It is also sexism to side against the mother of the children and any of the children that may be female. If the dog is female, the family is also sexist.
 
2014-06-18 12:43:42 AM  

whither_apophis: TV's Vinnie: "His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist. "

I swear to farking god! Craigslist needs to be erased from the Internet, it's admins tossed live into woodchippers, and their children sold off to the Saudis! Absolutely nothing good has ever come from that horrible site!

I got '65 Chevy Malibu, with automatic drive, custom paint job too...


If it came from Craigslist, it probably was stolen and the previous owner is still to be found in several drums scattered throughout the Everglades.
 
2014-06-18 12:45:09 AM  

whither_apophis: TV's Vinnie: "His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist. "

I swear to farking god! Craigslist needs to be erased from the Internet, it's admins tossed live into woodchippers, and their children sold off to the Saudis! Absolutely nothing good has ever come from that horrible site!

I got '65 Chevy Malibu, with automatic drive, custom paint job too...


I got close to five pounds of imitation crab meat plus a lovely evening playing with a model train set.
 
2014-06-18 12:51:53 AM  

vicioushobbit: moothemagiccow: Not planning on staying in the country? Don't buy something that needs daily care.

You're trolling, right?

I don't participate in military worship

I mean, it's not like every soldier gets a dog right before deployment.
Just this one

Soldiers at times leave behind dogs that were with them when they were kids.
And they probably get "sent to a farm"

The dog is 3; how long has this guy been in the military?
Rookie mistake? Really? Apparently he's smart enough to kill people for money but not to leave a dog he cares so goddamn much about with someone he can trust. The dog's "part of the family" but no one cared about him until they found it he was sold.

Don't be such a douche, even if this is the faceless internet.
I left the country for a week. My plant died. He left for 9 months. Boo farking hoo. It's a dog. Buy another one.
 
2014-06-18 12:52:19 AM  

whither_apophis: TV's Vinnie: "His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslist. "

I swear to farking god! Craigslist needs to be erased from the Internet, it's admins tossed live into woodchippers, and their children sold off to the Saudis! Absolutely nothing good has ever come from that horrible site!

I got '65 Chevy Malibu, with automatic drive, custom paint job too...


Sadly, it was actually stolen from a disabled war hero who's only source of income was touring around the country, showing it off at car shows and performing beautiful folk songs with his guitar. After the car was stolen, he lost his will to perform, and now lives in a homeless shelter, where his PTSD causes him to relive the horror of jumping on a live grenade to save his buddies, combined with the awful day he was carjacked.

Thanks, Craigslist.
 
2014-06-18 12:55:48 AM  

Theaetetus: Nothing better than ripping a dog away from the small children who have been caring for it every day for months. It teaches them that their little lives are nothing next to someone with the label of "soldier" in our jingoistic country.

Also, if he's got six more months on deployment, what are they going to do with the dog? Stick him in a kennel for half a year?


Two months. And the soldier had had the dog for three years.

Now, I know you hate soldiers and the military and think just because someone volunteers to die for his country doesn't mean he's deserving of any special attention or care; but let's put this in perspective:

A person owns a dog for three years. He then goes away for six months because of something he foresaw but had no real control over, and left the dog with someone he thought would be a good and trustworthy caregiver for the dog. That caregiver said "Meh, I could give a shiat," and sold it to someone else because she couldn't be bothered. The RIGHTFUL OWNER of the dog came back and said "Where's my dog?"

You're a legal-type person. You know as well as I do that dogs are legally property in America, and that taking property one has not got legal title to and selling it is conversion under the law. And that receiving stolen property if one knows or has reason to know the property is not the seller's to transfer is likewise a crime.

Therefore, all emotionalism about sweet little kids' feelings and jingoistic soldier's rights aside, this is purely a property case. The man is the rightful owner of the dog; the woman had no legal right to sell it; the new owners have no right to keep it. End of story. That the kids are "bonded" with the dog or that the soldier should have thought that he might go to Afghanistan three years ago when he got the dog is irrelevant. It's property, just like if Miss Coontsnatch sold his car out from under him.
 
2014-06-18 12:57:10 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: obamadidcoke: CSB
 
//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.

Awesome.   Next time you take your car to the shop to get it worked on and the mechanic just takes off at lunch with your car and sells it, we can say "tough shiat ODC, nobody made you leave it at that dealer.


In this thread even the trolls are getting trolled!
 
2014-06-18 12:59:39 AM  

Theaetetus: Dirty J1: I've done and said things in my life that have secured me a first class ticket to Hell, should it exist anyway. But refusing to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was fighting for his country, and then he explained that to the family..... That trumps anything bad I've done.

What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was working on an oil rig?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was on vacation out of the country?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was in jail?

Does "fighting for his country" somehow elevate the badness of what this family did? What about the fact that they also have family members in the military - does that negate his military service? Does one branch trump another? What if they got the dog to help with the PTSD of their son, who just came back from fighting for his country? Would that make this guy a bigger jerk for asking for it back?

There's a reason that emotional pleas make bad arguments.


Actually, taking it and not giving it back when they have family members deployed would be a worse offence as it would fall under breaking faith/allegiance/what ever else you might want to call it.

But more than anything it tells me Ft Carson and the springs are the same pit of misery they were when I was stationed there (93-95). On one deployment just to NTC we had 1 guys wife run off with his kids with her old boyfriend to the reservation (She was apache, I doubt he ever saw them again), another guy have his landlord pawn all his property (rent was paid up, landlord was losing his drug battle, but the jail time helped) and yet another guys mom sold his classic car that he and his dad had restored before his dad died(68 Camaro, she was cuckoo for coconuts he later realized). The one guy got his car back, the rest got shiat.
/Ft. Cartoon, where NCO's go to end their careers.
//Formerly home to the no war 4.
 
2014-06-18 01:14:12 AM  

moothemagiccow: vicioushobbit: moothemagiccow: Not planning on staying in the country? Don't buy something that needs daily care.

You're trolling, right?
I don't participate in military worship

I mean, it's not like every soldier gets a dog right before deployment.
Just this one

Soldiers at times leave behind dogs that were with them when they were kids.
And they probably get "sent to a farm"

The dog is 3; how long has this guy been in the military?
Rookie mistake? Really? Apparently he's smart enough to kill people for money but not to leave a dog he cares so goddamn much about with someone he can trust. The dog's "part of the family" but no one cared about him until they found it he was sold.

Don't be such a douche, even if this is the faceless internet.
I left the country for a week. My plant died. He left for 9 months. Boo farking hoo. It's a dog. Buy another one.


Man, your band farking suuuuuucks.
 
2014-06-18 01:24:17 AM  

knight_on_the_rail: Man, your band farking suuuuuucks.


I liked them the first time around when they were called Snow Patrol. Wait. No I didn't.
 
2014-06-18 01:39:33 AM  

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.

/Why should the family be pressured to give up what is now a loved family pet because this douche is in the military? Would it be different if he were in prison?  We need to stop sucking the dick of the military industrial complex and all of its adherents.

//They must really love that farkin' dog to turn down $14,000.


Uhm... No. The dog was not hers to sell. They did NOT "acquire it legally, end of story" they bought stolen goods, albeit unknowingly. If they do not return it they are open to a charge of recieving stolen goods.
 
2014-06-18 01:40:22 AM  

Theaetetus: TuteTibiImperes: The whole thing is light on details though, and she did a shiatty thing by selling it either way.

I still must point out that we've heard only one of three sides in this event, but that everyone is ready to jump on the girlfriend. I wonder if the reaction would be the same if the genders were reversed - female soldier, boyfriend who sells the dog.


Yes.

Actually no. I have a penis. It's socially unacceptable for me to suggest physical harm against women.

If a man had sold a woman's dog, it would conversely be a social obligation to sugest physical harm against him because testosterone, justice, et al.

So if a man knowingly sold a dog that weren't his to sell I'd say it's a hangin' crime. Since it's a woman, I can only say toss her ass onto house arrest for seven times the length of time the dog was under false ownership.
 
2014-06-18 01:43:57 AM  

obamadidcoke: Talented Ass Clown: obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.

/Why should the family be pressured to give up what is now a loved family pet because this douche is in the military? Would it be different if he were in prison?  We need to stop sucking the dick of the military industrial complex and all of its adherents.

//They must really love that farkin' dog to turn down $14,000.

.5/10

I honestly believe this.^^^
I am completely serious, this guy decided to join the Army. He also decided to leave it with the girlfriend.
Fuyck him.


You really are some kind of weapons grade stupid, aren't you?
 
2014-06-18 01:53:45 AM  

obamadidcoke: Monaro: obamadidcoke: Bit'O'Gristle: gja: Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately

I was gonna rant, but you seem to have covered this nicely, and properly. Thank you sir.

/np, i just did it first. I'm sure you would have done a better job. And you're welcome.

Or they could teach their children about property rights, resisting social pressure and honoring your commitments as opposed to the mawkish USA, USA, USA bullshiat that you are spouting.

Unless I'm misinterpreting you, you think that selling things that aren't yours to sell (or purchasing things from anyone who is not the owner) is a lesson in property rights?

Can I borrow your car?

The ability to sell this piece of property is not addressed in this article. We do not know that she did not have a legal right to sell the dog. If she did not then the soldier needs to urge that she is prosecuted and sue her in civil court.


Yes. He should. And she should also face crimial charged. It is called trafficking in stolen goods. And the article says she was "dogsitting" not given ownership of the dog. If you housesit for me while I am gone, you do NOT get to sell said house when you get tired of the job.
 
2014-06-18 02:10:52 AM  

obamadidcoke: Of course, we only have the soldier's (or whiney pussy's) side of the story. It is entirely possible that she did not agree to keep the dog and unless there is some kind of written agreement she can always make the claim that he abandoned the dog when he went off to Afghanistan.

/When I was in the Army we would have hazed his punk ass for crying about his dog.
//I stayed in the Iraq during the first Gulf War when my Dad died because it was my duty.


Hey fellas we got us a geenyouwine ITG here who thinks watching The Hurt Locker = being in the army.
 
2014-06-18 03:05:30 AM  

Theaetetus: Dirty J1: I've done and said things in my life that have secured me a first class ticket to Hell, should it exist anyway. But refusing to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was fighting for his country, and then he explained that to the family..... That trumps anything bad I've done.

What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was working on an oil rig?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was on vacation out of the country?
What if they refused to give the guy's dog back after he raised it and it was sold against his will while he was in jail?

Does "fighting for his country" somehow elevate the badness of what this family did? What about the fact that they also have family members in the military - does that negate his military service? Does one branch trump another? What if they got the dog to help with the PTSD of their son, who just came back from fighting for his country? Would that make this guy a bigger jerk for asking for it back?

There's a reason that emotional pleas make bad arguments.


THIS.

/stupid girlfriend
 
2014-06-18 03:06:08 AM  
Besides, what if it was "their" dog?  He abandons his share to go to work overseas and she is left with full possession.
 
2014-06-18 03:22:35 AM  

obamadidcoke: CSB

I went into the army when I was 17. I had to give away a dog that I had since I was 12 and raised from a puppy. It was sad but I got over it. That's just what you do, you make sacrifices and you suck it up and drive on. If you can't take care of the pet you shouldn't have the pet.

What kind of a pussy is this guy? He should be happy that the dog has a stable loving home.

Now he can focus on doing his job and making sure that his buddies survive their Afghan Adventure, which is infinitely more important than a dog

/Ultimately this guy joined an army at war. He knew he would be deployed, but he expected someone else to pick up his slack. She decided that she did not want too, tough shiat. Maybe he will learn an important lesson about personal responsibility.

//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.


And this.
 
2014-06-18 03:30:15 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: obamadidcoke: CSB
 
//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.

Awesome.   Next time you take your car to the shop to get it worked on and the mechanic just takes off at lunch with your car and sells it, we can say "tough shiat ODC, nobody made you leave it at that dealer.


That analogy might work if he left it there and then went overseas for a few months. But it doesn't work at all because one is grand theft auto, the other is a civil dispute at most.
 
2014-06-18 03:36:22 AM  
Dogs are property.

When someone else commits property to your care, and you sell it for your own profit, that is called either trespass to chattels or conversion. Both are tort crimes. If the property was removed from the person with malicious intent to permanently deprive the rightful owner of his property, it is criminal theft.

It doesn't matter that the dog is in a "loving home" now, or that the soldier went off and left it with his girlfriend for six months, or whatever. It was not hers to sell, hence, she converted someone else's property for her own profit, and if it was done with malicious intent, then she's a thief.

Likewise, receiving property one knows or "reasonably should know" is not the seller's to give or sell is "receipt of stolen property"; it is a crime, and the new "owners' of the dog have no intrinsic rights to the dog just because they "love" it or the kids have "bonded" with it. It is the rightful property of someone else, and they cannot keep it.

And merely because other people think soldiers have no special rights and some people DO think soldiers have special rights is irrelevant. Was it his dog? Yes. Did the girlfriend have a right to sell it? No. Do the new owners have a right to keep it? No. So, the original owner gets it back. End of story.
 
2014-06-18 03:47:12 AM  
...sold his dog? That's ruff.
 
2014-06-18 03:47:37 AM  
"They keep saying they have children that are attached," Robby's mother, Karen Fraley, told KOAA. "Well my child is attached to the dog. Just because he's older doesn't mean he's not my child."

He may be thankful to be half a world away when his mother embarrasses him like this.
 
2014-06-18 03:48:29 AM  
Holy christ where did all these assholes creep out from?
 
2014-06-18 04:33:53 AM  
i86.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-18 05:17:29 AM  

moothemagiccow: Not planning on staying in the country? Planning on flying somewhere for vacation? Don't buy something that needs daily care.


Jerk
 
2014-06-18 06:09:09 AM  
I wouldn't sell my dog for 14 grand. I would pay $1000 to anyone who stops by my place and makes my wifes dog disappear though.
 
2014-06-18 06:11:28 AM  

Yeah if my gf did that shiat to me when I was deployed, I'd come back and pull some Breaking Bad shiat and dissolve her in acid, but wouldn't kill her first.

--

Why don't they take a third option and sell the girlfriend on craigslist?


Use those pics of her you have to setup profiles for her on escort websites, then agree to 'incalls' at her place? Maybe even fund the repurchase of the dog. Lots of you say her selling 'abandoned' property is ok, so this is too right? I'm sure she's abandoned now so we're good.

 
2014-06-18 07:05:41 AM  
This idiot spent god knows how much on a dog, leaves it with someone who promptly fences it for 5k then his friends raise 15k to buy it back from the new owners? The valuation of the dog is getting high enough I just roll my eyes a bit and think 'rich people problems'.
 
2014-06-18 07:32:28 AM  
Quick some one give this guy a pen and paper he can write the best selling country song off all time.
 
2014-06-18 07:45:00 AM  
Can't anyone find out and publish the names of the girlfriend and family? Methinks a little social ostracizing might just do the trick to get things rolling a little faster in trying to get the dog back
 
2014-06-18 08:15:48 AM  

Moose23: Can't anyone find out and publish the names of the girlfriend and family? Methinks a little social ostracizing might just do the trick to get things rolling a little faster in trying to get the dog back


agreed. And does anyone know the actual Facebook page for the dog, there are like 20 'bring baxter home's pages. It doesn't matter if the guy is a soldier or if the family wuv the stolen property they bought, it's about human decency and a little respect. Just give the poor guy his Goddamn Dog back!
 
2014-06-18 08:17:23 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do the right, folks

/give the man his dog and get the kids a pup that will bond with them
//and use it as an ethics teaching moment


I agree with you; however, I always adopt older dogs because their chances are slim to none, and slim just left town.  Also, they are past puppy issues such as chewing, barking, and housebreaking.  Old dogs will bond with anybody just as readily as a puppy.

Also, the "girlfriend" who sold her man's dog while he was serving his country on farking Craigslist of all places needs a smackdown.
 
2014-06-18 08:23:46 AM  

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.

/Why should the family be pressured to give up what is now a loved family pet because this douche is in the military? Would it be different if he were in prison?  We need to stop sucking the dick of the military industrial complex and all of its adherents.

//They must really love that farkin' dog to turn down $14,000.


You are the suckiest troll I've ever seen on FARK.  Can't you do anything right?
 
2014-06-18 08:44:29 AM  
honestly i see no reason the family has to give the dog back.  i mean its a crappy situation, but some of the people in this thread are acting like the family is maliciously torturing the dog to death right in front of the guy.  they bought a dog on craigslist.  a few months later they found out that someone else actually owned the dog.  guess what?  that's just too bad.  they bought it and their kids like it, so sorry but you can't have your dog back.  just because you're a soldier doesn't automatically mean that people have to give up something they want just to make you happy.  you made a mistake by leaving the dog with an untrustworthy girlfriend.

the article claims she was "petsitting" but i suspect that the reality is that he simply dumped the dog on her and assumed she would care for it properly.  "hey i'm gonna be overseas for awhile, can you take care of my dog?  thanks!"  as far as the law is concerned, she didn't sell stolen anything.  dogs aren't like cars.  the guy gave her the dog to take care of, so she was the dog's legal owner at that point.  she sold the dog legally as far as i can tell.  if she broke the law then he could legally get the dog back from the family, and we would not be reading about this story at all.  since he's trying to guilt the family into giving the dog back, he apparently has no legal recourse.  maybe he could sue the girlfriend in civil court and try to get back all the money he spent raising the dog.  but the family has no obligation to return the dog.
 
2014-06-18 08:55:59 AM  

jaytkay: Feckless douche abandons his dog with irresponsible girlfriend, she sells it, dog is now with a responsible family, where it enjoys lots of attention and exercise instead of being cooped up in some Fort Carson apartment/meth lab.


Well, you've convinced me.  He is unable to care for the dog. Why doesn't he want what's best for the dog, surrounded by a loving family, rather than bounced around like some foster creature?
 
2014-06-18 09:06:53 AM  
obamadidcoke:

I've had you farkied as "histrionic child" (in TrollGrey1) for a while.  I nearly forgot why.  Thanks for reminding me.
 
2014-06-18 09:14:02 AM  
This article:  http://www.inquisitr.com/1303472/soldiers-dog-sold-on-craigslist-foun d /  has an update that says the dog has been returned. Not exactly surprising considering even when I looked last night, the facebook page had already disappeared.
 
gja
2014-06-18 09:16:45 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Dogs are property.

When someone else commits property to your care, and you sell it for your own profit, that is called either trespass to chattels or conversion. Both are tort crimes. If the property was removed from the person with malicious intent to permanently deprive the rightful owner of his property, it is criminal theft.

It doesn't matter that the dog is in a "loving home" now, or that the soldier went off and left it with his girlfriend for six months, or whatever. It was not hers to sell, hence, she converted someone else's property for her own profit, and if it was done with malicious intent, then she's a thief.

Likewise, receiving property one knows or "reasonably should know" is not the seller's to give or sell is "receipt of stolen property"; it is a crime, and the new "owners' of the dog have no intrinsic rights to the dog just because they "love" it or the kids have "bonded" with it. It is the rightful property of someone else, and they cannot keep it.

And merely because other people think soldiers have no special rights and some people DO think soldiers have special rights is irrelevant. Was it his dog? Yes. Did the girlfriend have a right to sell it? No. Do the new owners have a right to keep it? No. So, the original owner gets it back. End of story.


Aaaaaaaand, we're done. All you armchair lawyers and pontificating assholes can close your feeding-holes now.
What Gryf wrote is what you will find in Blacks' case law, among many other AUTHORITATIVE sources.
 
2014-06-18 09:21:45 AM  

brimed03: jaytkay: Feckless douche abandons his dog with irresponsible girlfriend, she sells it, dog is now with a responsible family, where it enjoys lots of attention and exercise instead of being cooped up in some Fort Carson apartment/meth lab.

.1/10


I was gong to give'm 1/10 but I think yours is closer.
 
2014-06-18 09:35:59 AM  

mesmer242: This article:  http://www.inquisitr.com/1303472/soldiers-dog-sold-on-craigslist-foun d /  has an update that says the dog has been returned. Not exactly surprising considering even when I looked last night, the facebook page had already disappeared.


You must have linked the wrong article, because that one says no such thing.
 
2014-06-18 09:42:46 AM  

Cold_Sassy: mesmer242: This article:  http://www.inquisitr.com/1303472/soldiers-dog-sold-on-craigslist-foun d /  has an update that says the dog has been returned. Not exactly surprising considering even when I looked last night, the facebook page had already disappeared.

You must have linked the wrong article, because that one says no such thing.


It's right at the top, underneath the picture. Yeah, I thought it was weird to put the update at the top too.
 
2014-06-18 09:58:28 AM  

mesmer242: Cold_Sassy: mesmer242: This article:  http://www.inquisitr.com/1303472/soldiers-dog-sold-on-craigslist-foun d /  has an update that says the dog has been returned. Not exactly surprising considering even when I looked last night, the facebook page had already disappeared.

You must have linked the wrong article, because that one says no such thing.

It's right at the top, underneath the picture. Yeah, I thought it was weird to put the update at the top too.


Good eye.  Sorry about that; you are right though it should've been the main item.
 
2014-06-18 11:14:10 AM  

obamadidcoke: Monaro: obamadidcoke: Bit'O'Gristle: gja: Bit'O'Gristle: A Colorado family took in a soldier's missing dog and is refusing to give the Shiba Inu back because they say their kids are too attached.

The dog's owner, Robert "Robby" Gabbert, was deployed to Afghanistan in March, and he left his 3-year-old Shiba Inu, named Baxter, with the wrong person. His girlfriend in Fort Carson was supposed to be petsitting Baxter, but she decided it was too much for her to handle. Instead of returning him to Robby's family, she sold him on Craigslis

/So let me get this straight. This fine young man was serving in our military, in a war zone where he could have been killed, and his coont of a girlfriend can't even manage to pony up the strength to watch a farking dog? Really? And instead of giving the dog to the parents of the soldier, she sold it on craigslist? Wow. He should really get a few kicks in the coont on that biatch...seriously.

And to the family who has the dog, I guess, it's apparently more important to protect your precious crotch fruit from any mental pain, because that would, you know, prepare them for life. Rather, you have taught them a lesson of heartless selfishness. Way to go, you are both assholes. Turn in your parental cards immediately

I was gonna rant, but you seem to have covered this nicely, and properly. Thank you sir.

/np, i just did it first. I'm sure you would have done a better job. And you're welcome.

Or they could teach their children about property rights, resisting social pressure and honoring your commitments as opposed to the mawkish USA, USA, USA bullshiat that you are spouting.

Unless I'm misinterpreting you, you think that selling things that aren't yours to sell (or purchasing things from anyone who is not the owner) is a lesson in property rights?

Can I borrow your car?

The ability to sell this piece of property is not addressed in this article. We do not know that she did not have a legal right to sell the dog. If she did not then the soldier needs to urge that she is prosecuted and sue her in civil court.


It's not that hard to determine. He had the dog prior to the relationship, they weren't married, and he expected the dog to be returned to him at the end if his tour. Unless she has something in writing to state he gave the dog to her, she doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.
 
2014-06-18 11:37:12 AM  

Theaetetus: Loren: Czechzican: It wasn't her dog to sell, she was just a guardian, so wouldn't the sale be considered illegal?

Yeah, I don't get it. It seems to me the dog is stolen property. The family that has it now should be in jail.

obamadidcoke: Hey soldier boy choices have consequences.
fark him, he chose to leave the dog with a girl who did not want it. The family acquired it legally end of story.

It's not possible for them to acquire it legally, you can never have clear title to stolen property.

You have to knowingly receive stolen property to commit a crime. Otherwise, misanthropic trolls would be running around selling stolen goods to unsuspecting victims and then anonymously reporting them.


But he now knows it's stolen property, by failing to return it he's breaking the law.
 
2014-06-18 12:05:23 PM  

obamadidcoke: CSB

I went into the army when I was 17. I had to give away a dog that I had since I was 12 and raised from a puppy. It was sad but I got over it. That's just what you do, you make sacrifices and you suck it up and drive on. If you can't take care of the pet you shouldn't have the pet.

What kind of a pussy is this guy? He should be happy that the dog has a stable loving home.

Now he can focus on doing his job and making sure that his buddies survive their Afghan Adventure, which is infinitely more important than a dog

/Ultimately this guy joined an army at war. He knew he would be deployed, but he expected someone else to pick up his slack. She decided that she did not want too, tough shiat. Maybe he will learn an important lesson about personal responsibility.

//Nobody made him join. Nobody made him leave it with the girlfriend.


All I really took away from this is that people who join the armed forces tend to be imbeciles.  You had to give a dog away.  He left his dog in the care of someone he believed he could trust.

Your anecdote is a farking pointless irrelevancy.
 
2014-06-18 03:20:42 PM  

gadian: Besides, what if it was "their" dog?  He abandons his share to go to work overseas and she is left with full possession.


No. If you share the title of a house with your significant other, and you're deployed, your SO can't sell the house out from under you because you BOTH hold ownership. Stupid argument.
 
2014-06-18 04:07:39 PM  
Remember now, he's not just a simple 'dog owner', he is a 'pet parent'.

/this message brought to you by PetMeds
 
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