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2014-06-17 05:58:06 PM  
www.nooooooooooooooo.com
 
2014-06-17 06:08:45 PM  
Frikkin activist judges
 
2014-06-17 06:14:22 PM  
Yep, time for a revolution
 
2014-06-17 06:14:50 PM  
i.imgur.com

fark you, Judge Asshat.
 
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2014-06-17 06:24:24 PM  
We need a right to beer arms.
 
2014-06-17 06:24:57 PM  
Currently, only package liquor stores can sell "chilled" beer, other stores must sell it at room temperature..

Oh, you can go fark yourself sideways.
 
2014-06-17 06:25:05 PM  
There some really stupid laws on the book regarding alcohol. At least this is one issue Florida is reasonably progressive at.
 
2014-06-17 06:31:09 PM  
Currently, only package liquor stores can sell "chilled" beer, other stores must sell it at room temperature.

Lower the temperature of the room to 35°
Problem solved
 
2014-06-17 06:39:18 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Currently, only package liquor stores can sell "chilled" beer, other stores must sell it at room temperature..

Oh, you can go fark yourself sideways.


I simply do not get this.  WTF is the damn difference?  Do the holy rollers think it will stop people drinking?  Or is it lobbying from the liquor stores to keep their share of the market?

That said, there's no selling any alcohol anywhere but at liquor stores where I am.  Which sucks.  But there are lots of them, and many of them are open until 2:00 AM.  Which kind of makes up for it.
 
2014-06-17 06:42:55 PM  
OK, then if you can't sell chilled beer, that should also apply to wine as well.
 
2014-06-17 06:43:16 PM  

Confabulat: There some really stupid laws on the book regarding alcohol. At least this is one issue Florida is reasonably progressive at.


It was weird seeing beer sold in grocery and convenience stores when I moved here.

Delaware (from whence I came) isn't as bad as some places (like PA) but all alcohol has to be sold at a liquor stores, including wine and beer.  They do make exceptions for brewpubs to sell their beer from that location, which is something that the megabrewery lobbyists are unfortunately trying to make illegal in FL, as well as limiting the amount of craft brews available by forcing all breweries to go through distributors.
 
2014-06-17 06:43:42 PM  
I'm from Pennsylvania so I'm used to planning.  It's not that farking difficult.
 
2014-06-17 06:55:56 PM  

nekom: I'm from Pennsylvania so I'm used to planning.  It's not that farking difficult.


Why should I have to plan at all? Right now I can walk to the Walgreens and buy a twelve-pack if I'm in the mood. Why should I have to have to visit a special store to buy beer? That's insanity.

And Pennsylvania alcohol laws are like something from the early 20th Century. I'd never live in that state for those laws alone.
 
2014-06-17 06:58:26 PM  
For years in Irving Texas, you couldn't even buy beer. It wasen't really a big deal, as I could drive 5 minutes to Euless and return with whatever the fark I wanted

Then the City Council finally wised up and allowed the sale of beer and wine within their border
 
2014-06-17 07:02:23 PM  
Confabulat:
Why should I have to plan at all? Right now I can walk to the Walgreens and buy a twelve-pack if I'm in the mood. Why should I have to have to visit a special store to buy beer? That's insanity.

And Pennsylvania alcohol laws are like something from the early 20th Century. I'd never live in that state for those laws alone.


I'm not defending them, just saying they aren't THAT hard to live with, especially since they allowed the beer distributors to be open on Sundays some years ago.  Of course, you can only buy cases there though they may sell them cold.  You can only buy 6-packs or 12-packs or even 15-packs in bars or pizza places, almost always cold.  Wine is restricted to the state store racket with the exception of local vintages being allowed to sell only their own product.  Hard liquor is only at state stores.  It's archaic and asinine, but it's not the worst thing to have to deal with.
 
2014-06-17 07:08:16 PM  
Here in Soviet Kaliforniastan, the ultra-invasive nanny state curtails her citizens' precious freedoms by permitting beer, wine, and liquor all to be sold at any licensed retail establishment, including convenience stores and gas stations, 7 days a week, with only 2am-6am as dark hours.
 
2014-06-17 07:09:51 PM  
I guess Virginia is only half weird.

Beer and wine in grocery and convenience stores, but no sales between 12 AM and 6 AM.

Hard liquor only in state operated ABC stores, not open on Sundays.

And yes, the beer is kept chilled in the stores. We're not savages.
 
2014-06-17 07:10:04 PM  

nekom: You can only buy 6-packs or 12-packs or even 15-packs in bars or pizza places, almost always cold


My mom lived in Pennsylvania for years so I got (sort of) used to dealing with the craziness. But one thing about this, is the price of a six pack at a bar is insane. At the Walgreens, there's always some beer on sale that I can swipe my little customer card for. I don't remember the numbers not, but buying a sixer in PA is what? Twice as much as I can get at a grocery store? I'm not sure I could afford to be a drunk in Pennsylvania.
 
2014-06-17 07:18:55 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: I guess Virginia is only half weird.

Beer and wine in grocery and convenience stores, but no sales between 12 AM and 6 AM.

Hard liquor only in state operated ABC stores, not open on Sundays.

And yes, the beer is kept chilled in the stores. We're not savages.


Texas is the same way. You cannot purchase after 12am and on a Sunday, you cannot purchase until 12 noon, and you can only purchase beer/wine

You cannot purchase hard liquor on a Sunday, regardless of time

Gotta love those 'puritan laws'
 
2014-06-17 07:26:48 PM  
Confabulat:
My mom lived in Pennsylvania for years so I got (sort of) used to dealing with the craziness. But one thing about this, is the price of a six pack at a bar is insane. At the Walgreens, there's always some beer on sale that I can swipe my little customer card for. I don't remember the numbers not, but buying a sixer in PA is what? Twice as much as I can get at a grocery store? I'm not sure I could afford to be a drunk in Pennsylvania.

It's not too bad if you drink the cheap stuff.  At the local pizza shop here, a 15 pack (literally a 30 pack cut in half with a knife and sometimes taped to hold the half box together) of coors lite is like $11.50 I think, a 30 pack at a distributor is around $20.  The hoity toity stuff I drink is never sold at such places, so I couldn't speak to that.
 
2014-06-17 07:33:57 PM  
Meh. I can get drunk on warm beer.
 
2014-06-17 07:34:52 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Meh. I can get drunk on warm beer.


Brits do it all the time
 
2014-06-17 07:46:42 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: And yes, the beer is kept chilled in the stores. We're not savages.


Push come to shove, though, you do what you have to do

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2014-06-17 07:46:50 PM  

nekom: At the local pizza shop here, a 15 pack (literally a 30 pack cut in half with a knife and sometimes taped to hold the half box together) of coors lite is like $11.50 I think, a 30 pack at a distributor is around $20.


That's certainly not bad at all.

 

Trance750: Texas is the same way. You cannot purchase after 12am and on a Sunday, you cannot purchase until 12 noon, and you can only purchase beer/wine


I was furious when I discovered that around 12:15 AM one night on a long road trip and decided to spend the night in Amarillo. I was like wait, what? Texas? The people who pride themselves on freedom, the people who want you to pry their guns from their cold dead hands, THESE people don't complain that they can't buy a damn beer after midnight in the entire gigantic state?

That was when I realized Texans are full of shiat.
 
2014-06-17 07:47:28 PM  
Begs to differ.

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2014-06-17 07:49:30 PM  
I've never understood all these ridiculous laws states have on the books regarding alcohol sales, but not being able to sell beer cold takes the cake.
 
2014-06-17 07:49:44 PM  

BKITU: Here in Soviet Kaliforniastan, the ultra-invasive nanny state curtails her citizens' precious freedoms by permitting beer, wine, and liquor all to be sold at any licensed retail establishment, including convenience stores and gas stations, 7 days a week, with only 2am-6am as dark hours.


Georgia is kind of in between California and Pennsylvania. No state stores, beer and wine in groceries, but hard stuff only in liquor stores. We just got Sunday sales a couple years ago. When we were in California, and my wife saw a bottle of gin for sale at the Quik E Mart, she literally squealed with delight.

/The only annoying thing left is no booze sales of any sort on Sunday before 12:30 p.m., which kinda farks up brunch. Also makes eating lunch at the airport before a flight irritating.
 
2014-06-17 07:50:18 PM  
If you take a beer and throw it in a freezer or a bucket of ice water, it will be frosty cold in short order. If you can't wait that long to drink, you may have a problem. NTTIAWWT.
 
2014-06-17 07:50:25 PM  
The group claimed Indiana's alcohol law violates the equal protection of the U.S. Constitution by favoring one class of retailer of another.

While this sounds like a completely idiotic blue law I hardly think the equal protection clause applies to convenience stores.
 
2014-06-17 07:50:29 PM  

Confabulat: nekom: At the local pizza shop here, a 15 pack (literally a 30 pack cut in half with a knife and sometimes taped to hold the half box together) of coors lite is like $11.50 I think, a 30 pack at a distributor is around $20.

That's certainly not bad at all.

 Trance750: Texas is the same way. You cannot purchase after 12am and on a Sunday, you cannot purchase until 12 noon, and you can only purchase beer/wine

I was furious when I discovered that around 12:15 AM one night on a long road trip and decided to spend the night in Amarillo. I was like wait, what? Texas? The people who pride themselves on freedom, the people who want you to pry their guns from their cold dead hands, THESE people don't complain that they can't buy a damn beer after midnight in the entire gigantic state?

That was when I realized Texans are full of shiat.


Not all of us
 
2014-06-17 07:50:51 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: I guess Virginia is only half weird.

Beer and wine in grocery and convenience stores, but no sales between 12 AM and 6 AM.

Hard liquor only in state operated ABC stores, not open on Sundays.

And yes, the beer is kept chilled in the stores. We're not savages.


In 2012 the GA opened all but 3 stores on Sunday from 1pm-6pm.
The 3 stores are in Richmond, Alexandria and Middleburg.
 
2014-06-17 07:50:57 PM  
We had warm beer in Oxford,MS during college, you learned how to spin a can in a cooler of ice water pretty quick.   Except in the winter the beer at the drive through place was cold by default since it was just a big unheated barn.
 
2014-06-17 07:51:52 PM  
 Since many of our laws are based on English Common Law this should not be surprising.
 
2014-06-17 07:52:22 PM  

BKITU: Here in Soviet Kaliforniastan, the ultra-invasive nanny state curtails her citizens' precious freedoms by permitting beer, wine, and liquor all to be sold at any licensed retail establishment, including convenience stores and gas stations, 7 days a week, with only 2am-6am as dark hours.


I grew up in CA. I remember stopping for a drink after work when I was waiting tables in the graveyard shift. Awesome. Here in the county I live in in GA, we just got the ability to buy on Sunday. Nice to not have to plan for "Sunday Beer."
 
2014-06-17 07:52:42 PM  
What happened to the pursuit of happyneds?
 
2014-06-17 07:54:23 PM  
I gassed up in East Bumphuk Maine while back and the gas station sold ice cold singles for the road.
 
2014-06-17 07:55:02 PM  

freetomato: BKITU: Here in Soviet Kaliforniastan, the ultra-invasive nanny state curtails her citizens' precious freedoms by permitting beer, wine, and liquor all to be sold at any licensed retail establishment, including convenience stores and gas stations, 7 days a week, with only 2am-6am as dark hours.

I grew up in CA. I remember stopping for a drink after work when I was waiting tables in the graveyard shift. Awesome. Here in the county I live in in GA, we just got the ability to buy on Sunday. Nice to not have to plan for "Sunday Beer."


I remember learning about blue laws years ago when I moved to Seattle. They bogarted my weekend once. Once.
 
2014-06-17 07:55:36 PM  

Trance750: rumpelstiltskin: Meh. I can get drunk on warm beer.

Brits do it all the time


This is a false lie. British cask-conditioned ale isn't ice cold, but it isn't warm, either. It's cellar temperature, @ 55 degrees Fahrenheit. Brits drink lager cold, like everyone else.
 
2014-06-17 07:55:55 PM  

BKITU: Here in Soviet Kaliforniastan, the ultra-invasive nanny state curtails her citizens' precious freedoms by permitting beer, wine, and liquor all to be sold at any licensed retail establishment, including convenience stores and gas stations, 7 days a week, with only 2am-6am as dark hours.


Just another example of big-government liberals stripping us of our religious freedom to control our neighbor's drinking habits. In free states like Texas, they don't shiat on Christian rights that way.
 
2014-06-17 07:56:10 PM  
We need a XXI Amendment Solution
 
2014-06-17 07:56:16 PM  

RoyHobbs22: I gassed up in East Bumphuk Maine while back and the gas station sold ice cold singles for the road.


We have those in most all Florida convenience stores. They're usually in a big tub of ice up by the front register. Are those wrong? Should we not do that?
 
2014-06-17 07:56:17 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Do the holy rollers think it will stop people drinking? Or is it lobbying from the liquor stores to keep their share of the market?


Some from column a, a little from column b.
 
2014-06-17 07:56:58 PM  
Say what you like about Arizona, but we've got beer (including cold), wine and liquor in all our grocery and convenience stores and we've even got drive-through liquor stores.

I can't fathom what some of you farkers are putting up with.
 
2014-06-17 07:57:05 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Confabulat: There some really stupid laws on the book regarding alcohol. At least this is one issue Florida is reasonably progressive at.

It was weird seeing beer sold in grocery and convenience stores when I moved here.

Delaware (from whence I came) isn't as bad as some places (like PA) but all alcohol has to be sold at a liquor stores, including wine and beer.  They do make exceptions for brewpubs to sell their beer from that location, which is something that the megabrewery lobbyists are unfortunately trying to make illegal in FL, as well as limiting the amount of craft brews available by forcing all breweries to go through distributors.


i can from a county in MD that didn't allow even beer and wine to be sold anywhere but liquor stores, and moved to Chicago where even hard liquor is available in grocery stores....the first time I ran into the nice lady handing out free samples was a happy shock
 
2014-06-17 07:58:11 PM  
We all know Obama likes beer. This must have been someone appointed by Bush.  That guy will be ruining things for people long after he's dead.

 
2014-06-17 07:59:00 PM  
He's lieing
 
2014-06-17 08:00:54 PM  
Easier access to booze and weed.

Every Farker's dream.
 
2014-06-17 08:01:03 PM  
Oh yes, alcohol. The only consumer product with its own constitutional amendment.  Basically, the commerce clause, and pretty much everything else is superceded by the 21st amendment.

Section 2. The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.

Basically,  this says states can do fark all whent comes to booze .
 
2014-06-17 08:01:33 PM  

NightOwl2255: If you take a beer and throw it in a freezer or a bucket of ice water, it will be frosty cold in short order. If you can't wait that long to drink, you may have a problem. NTTIAWWT.


i switched to drinking whiskey, neat, because it takes too long to put ice cubes in a glass.

I invented my own cocktail. It's called the "Wake-up Call":
1. Fill an old-fashioned glass (or coffee mug, or thermos, or flower vase) with whiskey
2. Hand glass to baconbeard

There's different variations, too. If you use rum instead of whiskey, it's a " Jamaican Wake-up Call", etc.
 
2014-06-17 08:01:46 PM  

fappomatic: FirstNationalBastard: I guess Virginia is only half weird.

Beer and wine in grocery and convenience stores, but no sales between 12 AM and 6 AM.

Hard liquor only in state operated ABC stores, not open on Sundays.

And yes, the beer is kept chilled in the stores. We're not savages.

In 2012 the GA opened all but 3 stores on Sunday from 1pm-6pm.
The 3 stores are in Richmond, Alexandria and Middleburg.


Well, that shows you how long it's been since I was a drunk.

Nice to see a little bit of sanity crept in somewhere along the line.
 
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