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2014-06-18 01:05:52 AM  

WhyteRaven74: If I was the judge I'd have paid the fines off myself, and if people don't like, I'd inform them they're free to to fark themselves.


Isn't Pennsyltucky where a judge was getting kickbacks for sentencing juveniles? Link I'm starting to think judges in that part of the world see themselves above the riff-raff who come to their courtrooms.
 
2014-06-18 01:26:45 AM  
She was sentenced to two days in jail and that would have wiped 2k fines away?

I would gladly go to jail for 200 days if my debt gets wiped at that rate.
 
Al!
2014-06-18 02:15:24 AM  

sprgrss: Yes, yes it did look like you said what a fine is for, albeit sardonically when you stated:  "fines are levied only to the most heinous offenders "

Also, New York, like every farking state in the union has criminal sanctions for truancy [citation needed].  But don't let your ignorance stop you.

Flounce, flounce, flounce away mein Liebchen.



And you completely missed the question mark.  A very general statement was made by someone who was implying that they knew the answer to my question, so I replied with wild assumptions based off of the information I was given.  My question, albeit loaded with absurdity, was concerning how the system worked.  Is it controlled by the Principal?  The Teacher?  School Board vote?  By simple majority majority, or does it have to be unanimous?  Must a quorum be met for the vote to be valid?  Or is it a simple system that I just have never had to deal with before?  Seriously.  How hard is it?  I am literally trying to not let my ignorance stop me, and your ignorance is what is keeping me with mine.

Btw: If NYS has fines, it is something that has been implemented in the last 12 months, because they did not have criminal truancy penalties as of the end of last school year.  At least not in my district.  My step-son missed 41 days last year, virtually none of them excused.  If 41 days isn't enough to trigger penalties, please, tell me why we even have these laws.

/former step-son (?), his mother is insane and wouldn't let me ever say different if he wanted to stay home... she would then do the same.  When it was my responsibility without her interference, he would go to school.  Every time.
 
2014-06-18 02:22:14 AM  

HairBolus: Here is her obituary: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/readingeagle/obituary.aspx?n=eileen- d inino-bierman&pid=171350004

[ak-cache.legacy.net image 108x144]
Eileen M. DiNino, age 55, of Reading, passed away unexpectedly on Saturday June 7, 2014 in the St. Joseph Medica Center, Bern Township, Reading.
She was born in Reading and was the daughter of the late Harry J. and Elizabeth M. (Zalesky) Bierman.
She leaves behind her children: sons: Michael Tobias, Ash, Brian and
Charlie, Matthew, Justin DiNino, and Joseph Maisonet; her loving daughter, Erika Tarnoski;
...
 First off she was probably pronounced dead (not passed away) in the St. Joseph Medical Center.


Her list of kids is fairly hard to parse. This is what I get organizing them by last name:
Tobias:   Michael
Matthew:  Ash, Brian, Charlie
DiNino:   Justin
Maisonet: Joseph
Tarnoski: Erika


Yeah. They could've used some semicolons in there.
 
2014-06-18 03:14:03 AM  
At one point in my life I worked at a maximum security federal prison, multiple times in my life I have been the guest in county jails across the country due to not so smart decisions. To say they are the same thing is fricken retarded to say the least.
 
2014-06-18 04:22:02 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: HairBolus:
She leaves behind her children: sons: Michael Tobias, Ash, Brian and
Charlie, Matthew, Justin DiNino, and Joseph Maisonet; her loving daughter, Erika Tarnoski;

Her list of kids is fairly hard to parse. This is what I get organizing them by last name:
Tobias:   Michael
Matthew:  Ash, Brian, Charlie
DiNino:   Justin
Maisonet: Joseph
Tarnoski: Erika

Yeah. They could've used some semicolons in there.


And also not a retard writing the obit. As I later found above she had 8 kids and I think Ash is her daughter.

[Mike] Tobias [28] said he has seven siblings: Erica, 36; Ash, 24; Brian, 21; twins Charlie and Matthew, 17; Justin, 16; and Joseph, 12. Tobias' stepfather died of complications of hepatitis in 2011.

Maybe a retard also wrote her husband's obit I linked above which says:

He is also survived by sons: Brian, Charles, Matthew and Justin Dinino;

which doesn't explain where Joseph (12) came from, or properly capitalize DiNino..

My guess now is that she had only two husbands (Tobias and DiNino)
 
2014-06-18 04:41:01 AM  
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2014-06-18 07:18:08 AM  

some_beer_drinker: what the fark is a truancy fine? you have to pay money if your kids miss school? how the fark does that even make sense?


Yes, that's what it is.
It makes sense because your brats should be in school, and it's your responsibility to see that they are.
Failing in your responsibility has consequences.

Apparently here it's $8, so not much of one, but still a consequence.
 
2014-06-18 09:26:07 AM  

Beowoolfie: holdeestrufs: How is it the south gets such a consistently bad rap for white trashy redneckedness? More of these stories come out of Pennsylvania and Ohio than all of the southern states combined, and yet all of the cousin-farking accusations are leveled at southerners...  Well.. except for Florida.  But still...it's like New England and the west coast consider the rest of the country "the south".

Not ALL of Pennsylvania, just Pennsyltucky!  Believe me, those of us living near Philadelphia and Pittsburgh think they're crazy, too.

/Seriously, if we do get a tag, can it please be for Pennsyltucky?


Pennsylvania: The South of the North.

BTW, this is how New Yorkers view the rest of the country

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2014-06-18 09:35:38 AM  
I'm just gonna throw this out here, but what if she had to get up for work very early every morning to support the kids?

What if she pleaded with them every morning to please go to school as she struggled out the door at 6:30 to make it to her slightly-above-minimum-wage job that kept them all fed?

No dad around, so she's trapped.  She can't be late, so she can't personally take the kids to school.  The kids take no responsibility for their actions, every day she's fighting a losing battle.  Maybe she just died of exhaustion.
 
2014-06-18 10:31:51 AM  
why didn't they just garnish her wages?
 
2014-06-18 10:47:11 AM  

HairBolus: Here is her obituary: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/readingeagle/obituary.aspx?n=eileen- d inino-bierman&pid=171350004

[ak-cache.legacy.net image 108x144]
Eileen M. DiNino, age 55, of Reading, passed away unexpectedly on Saturday June 7, 2014 in the St. Joseph Medica Center, Bern Township, Reading.
She was born in Reading and was the daughter of the late Harry J. and Elizabeth M. (Zalesky) Bierman.
She leaves behind her children: sons: Michael Tobias, Ash, Brian and
Charlie, Matthew, Justin DiNino, and Joseph Maisonet; her loving daughter, Erika Tarnoski;
...
 First off she was probably pronounced dead (not passed away) in the St. Joseph Medical Center.


Her list of kids is fairly hard to parse. This is what I get organizing them by last name:
Tobias:   Michael
Matthew:  Ash, Brian, Charlie
DiNino:   Justin
Maisonet: Joseph
Tarnoski: Erika


My money is on Erika for pushing Mom into a dirt nap
 
2014-06-18 11:08:33 AM  

count_chimpula: iheartscotch: She should have thought about that before accumulating such a high fine over almost 15 years of truant children. One time is fine; hell, 9 times is fine. Her kids were fined on approximately 250 times at $8 a fine.

Eh there are other stories on it that say that it was 90 times over 14 years, interest, court costs, etc made up the balance, also that people have tried to help her and she refused assistance(one of her daughters in law was quoted). And that her 7 children have 4 different fathers.


So in other words, this is an extreme edge case that borders on a real-life reductio ad absurdum. Yet people people speak as though the fines themselves are the problem.
 
2014-06-18 05:06:10 PM  

HairBolus: Who is making stuff up? the news sources I quoted said the jailers didn't give her her her daily medications for high blood pressure, anxiety and bipolar disorder but for some reason thought it important to monitor her blood pressure.


I wrote that comment based on the first hundred or so posts. Yours was later in the list and I didn't see it until afterwards. You actually had some evidence you're working from, and my comment wasn't at all directed at you. Sorry!
 
2014-06-18 11:14:17 PM  
This is really sad...but on the bright side...at least I didn't have to see a comment from vudukungfu about what a hellhole Pennsy  is so I gue....


vudukungfu: third world shiathole, pennsylvania...

/ahh...just so
//nevermind

 
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