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(CityLab)   One advantage of a slowly depopulating, increasingly forested Detroit: less hayfever   (citylab.com) divider line 31
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-17 01:28:29 PM  
The last I read on the subject said ragweed was unfairly blamed for respiratory problems. Has it starting provoking allergies again? It's hard keeping up with plant evolution.
 
2014-06-17 02:36:57 PM  
For good or for bad, Detroit is unintentionally a blessing if such can help us learn about reclaiming land for nature.

I left Detroit area September 1983 hayfever sneezing and all. It got worse in Iowa and Nebraska, yet mysteriosly disappeared totally in Denver. And stayed disappeared when I arrived in San Francisco.
 
2014-06-17 04:05:26 PM  
Sounds like you're allergic to sh*tholes, Kevin72.
 
2014-06-17 04:16:57 PM  

Calmamity: Sounds like you're allergic to sh*tholes, Kevin72.


shiatholes are generally pretty polluted, so probably.
 
2014-06-17 04:18:58 PM  
To Detroit's credit, it can market itself as a futuristic post-apocalyptic city and bring in Hollywood dollars
 
2014-06-17 04:32:18 PM  
What is the payouts on a bet that if they do let the land go back to forest that the residents complain about the allergies caused by the native tree species.
 
2014-06-17 04:41:15 PM  
I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.
 
2014-06-17 04:42:48 PM  
Oh good. I'm moving to Detroit to escape my allergies. Thank god I'm not allergic to Kevlar.
/Went to Detroit once about 4 years ago
//never going back
 
2014-06-17 04:43:20 PM  
The reason the city of Detroit makes an attempt to mow vacant lots I'm sure is crime related more than concerns about hay fever.  IE, overgrown lots are a good place to hide firearms (or bodies).  The reason they don't do it on a more regular schedule is because, well, it's the city of Detroit.
 
2014-06-17 05:06:55 PM  

Lodger: I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.



Pure Michigan
 
2014-06-17 05:07:40 PM  

Lodger: I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.


Don't know how long you've been gone, but "right-to-work," rape insurance, the legislature just left without voting to fix the roads, some of the worst roads in the country (in the state that was famous for cars, ha), appointed omnipotent rulers of cities (aka "emergency managers"), school funding destroyed, and so much more have all been happening recently.

Much of the state is pretty. Much of it could be made great. if you're rich, I suppose it's alright to vacation in. But It's not an awesome state to be a resident of.

Oh, and a governor whose whiny voice could peel the zebra mussels from the hull of your ship.
 
2014-06-17 05:13:13 PM  
I don't see how this helps if no one wants to live in Detroit.
 
2014-06-17 05:29:05 PM  

Saiga410: What is the payouts on a bet that if they do let the land go back to forest that the residents complain about the allergies caused by the native tree species.


I will not be taking that bet. I was thinking the same thing. Back in the days when it was fun to add formaldehyde to foam insulation, a shoddy installation caused me to develop allergies to pretty much every thing; grass, trees, dust, food (easier than listing everything that food consists of). Walking into the woods made me look something like this:
www.feoamante.com
I've since recovered from pretty much all of them, but my kryptonite is still ragweed.
 
2014-06-17 05:31:47 PM  

DubyaHater: Oh good. I'm moving to Detroit to escape my allergies. Thank god I'm not allergic to Kevlar.
/Went to Detroit once about 4 years ago
//never going back


One of the most depressing sights I ever witnessed was flying into Detroit at night and seeing entire city blocks in complete darkness.
 
2014-06-17 05:44:19 PM  

quo vadimus: Lodger: I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.

Don't know how long you've been gone, but "right-to-work," rape insurance, the legislature just left without voting to fix the roads, some of the worst roads in the country (in the state that was famous for cars, ha), appointed omnipotent rulers of cities (aka "emergency managers"), school funding destroyed, and so much more have all been happening recently.

Much of the state is pretty. Much of it could be made great. if you're rich, I suppose it's alright to vacation in. But It's not an awesome state to be a resident of.

Oh, and a governor whose whiny voice could peel the zebra mussels from the hull of your ship.


I know, I know.  You can never go home again.  We moved out of MI in 1980, probably for lots of reasons I wasn't aware of when I was a kid.

I come from a Polish family, and remember so many Polish activities from my childhood that took place around Hamtramck.  I remember my neighborhood in Dearborn being green, and huge clouds filling the skies.  I really want to re-visit the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village again.

I'm just tired of Michigan being a punchline all the time.  Maybe it's unrealistic nostalgia on my part, but MI should be better treated.
 
2014-06-17 05:52:31 PM  

Summoner101: To Detroit's credit, it can market itself as a futuristic post-apocalyptic city and bring in Hollywood dollars


The last time I was in Detroit, they were filming an urban battle scene for a Transformers movie, presumably because Detroit didn't require much in the way of set dressing.

I think they must have fixed it up in post-production to fill in a few of the gaping holes and remove some burnt-out cars.

/True story.
 
2014-06-17 05:58:17 PM  

Summoner101: To Detroit's credit, it can market itself as a futuristic post-apocalyptic city and bring in Hollywood dollars


Flim Dertoit!
 
2014-06-17 06:23:17 PM  

Lodger: quo vadimus: Lodger: I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.

Don't know how long you've been gone, but "right-to-work," rape insurance, the legislature just left without voting to fix the roads, some of the worst roads in the country (in the state that was famous for cars, ha), appointed omnipotent rulers of cities (aka "emergency managers"), school funding destroyed, and so much more have all been happening recently.

Much of the state is pretty. Much of it could be made great. if you're rich, I suppose it's alright to vacation in. But It's not an awesome state to be a resident of.

Oh, and a governor whose whiny voice could peel the zebra mussels from the hull of your ship.

I know, I know.  You can never go home again.  We moved out of MI in 1980, probably for lots of reasons I wasn't aware of when I was a kid.

I come from a Polish family, and remember so many Polish activities from my childhood that took place around Hamtramck.  I remember my neighborhood in Dearborn being green, and huge clouds filling the skies.  I really want to re-visit the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village again.

I'm just tired of Michigan being a punchline all the time.  Maybe it's unrealistic nostalgia on my part, but MI should be better treated.


I go to Detroit regularly. My expedite company usually has 14-22 loads a day coming out and 10-12 truck going in. That is for one class of truck. Same number for cargo van loads. Haven't seen the numbers for tractor trailers though.

Detroit has a TON of industry still. It has almost as much activity for us as Chicago. I was at Ford Dearborn yesterday and yeah there's far too much land for far too few people. It has an unsustainable amount of infrastructure.

Detroit is far from dead though. Not when my thought is always "Yes, an Atlanta to Detroit run, miles and ill have another load offer as soon as we offload."

It just has too much land to manage right now.
 
2014-06-17 06:58:17 PM  

Lodger: quo vadimus: Lodger: I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.

Don't know how long you've been gone, but "right-to-work," rape insurance, the legislature just left without voting to fix the roads, some of the worst roads in the country (in the state that was famous for cars, ha), appointed omnipotent rulers of cities (aka "emergency managers"), school funding destroyed, and so much more have all been happening recently.

Much of the state is pretty. Much of it could be made great. if you're rich, I suppose it's alright to vacation in. But It's not an awesome state to be a resident of.

Oh, and a governor whose whiny voice could peel the zebra mussels from the hull of your ship.

I know, I know.  You can never go home again.  We moved out of MI in 1980, probably for lots of reasons I wasn't aware of when I was a kid.

I come from a Polish family, and remember so many Polish activities from my childhood that took place around Hamtramck.  I remember my neighborhood in Dearborn being green, and huge clouds filling the skies.  I really want to re-visit the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village again.

I'm just tired of Michigan being a punchline all the time.  Maybe it's unrealistic nostalgia on my part, but MI should be better treated.


I'll give you that the green and the sky are pretty damn great. I get a little sick when I think of the amount of fuel the people in this state burn every weekend driving "up north" - just to sit on their boat that never moves - and then driving back, but really, when you get there, you see why. If we could just really become The Outdoors State, The Middle Oregon But Without The Rain, or something like that, but without letting the white supremacists and open carry nutballs determine what makes it Outdoorsy, there's enough up there for it to completely replace the manufacturing economy we lost.
 
2014-06-17 07:02:17 PM  
There will be a Detroit revival.  It will be a destination for business an industry once again as it has an abundant supply of water. As water shortages become increasingly more common in other more arid parts of the country where quickly growing populations are outstripping the water supply, there will be a slow migration back north, where water is more abundant..
 
2014-06-17 08:11:59 PM  
Lodger:
I know, I know.  You can never go home again.  We moved out of MI in 1980, probably for lots of reasons I wasn't aware of when I was a kid.

I come from a Polish family, and remember so many Polish activities from my childhood that took place around Hamtramck.  I remember my neighborhood in Dearborn being green, and huge clouds filling the skies.  I really want to re-visit the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village again.

I'm just tired of Michigan being a punchline all the time.  Maybe it's unrealistic nostalgia on my part, but MI should be better treated.


I know what you mean. I left in 72. Have not been back since 1995 and probably never will now. Lived at 7 mile road. There is just something about Michigan, the clouds like you say, the climate, the trees, I don't know, but you could show me a picture and I could say "yup, Michigan."  I'd like to go back and see it and I don't like all the hate, it is really quite a special place.
 
2014-06-17 10:37:47 PM  

Lodger: quo vadimus: Lodger: I miss Michigan.  A much better state than Detroit should be famous for.

Don't know how long you've been gone, but "right-to-work," rape insurance, the legislature just left without voting to fix the roads, some of the worst roads in the country (in the state that was famous for cars, ha), appointed omnipotent rulers of cities (aka "emergency managers"), school funding destroyed, and so much more have all been happening recently.

Much of the state is pretty. Much of it could be made great. if you're rich, I suppose it's alright to vacation in. But It's not an awesome state to be a resident of.

Oh, and a governor whose whiny voice could peel the zebra mussels from the hull of your ship.

I know, I know.  You can never go home again.  We moved out of MI in 1980, probably for lots of reasons I wasn't aware of when I was a kid.

I come from a Polish family, and remember so many Polish activities from my childhood that took place around Hamtramck.  I remember my neighborhood in Dearborn being green, and huge clouds filling the skies.  I really want to re-visit the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village again.

I'm just tired of Michigan being a punchline all the time.  Maybe it's unrealistic nostalgia on my part, but MI should be better treated.


If you go back to Hamtramck or Dearborn I hope you speak Arabic.
 
2014-06-17 11:06:33 PM  
If Detroit were to become an urban forest, it'd be just Detroit's luck that all the trees would be those ones that smell like sperm.
 
2014-06-18 12:21:24 AM  

Psychohazard: If Detroit were to become an urban forest, it'd be just Detroit's luck that all the trees would be those ones that smell like sperm.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_calleryana

Chances are, many of the trees planted in the city already are.
 
2014-06-18 12:29:48 AM  
Is it just me or does that 'article' contradict itself?
 
2014-06-18 01:18:33 AM  
news.bbcimg.co.uk

Nature is slowly taking it back.
 
2014-06-18 06:09:51 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: There will be a Detroit revival.  It will be a destination for business an industry once again as it has an abundant supply of water. As water shortages become increasingly more common in other more arid parts of the country where quickly growing populations are outstripping the water supply, there will be a slow migration back north, where water is more abundant..




You could just pipe the water out of Detroit to places more hospitable...

There will be a revival when its politicians get their act together and stop pretending to be kings of the wasteland. Since that's unlikely to happen then we'll just have to wait for it to burn down enough that new blood can take over.

There's nothing wrong with the geographic location. Its mainly a political and economic disaster.

/seeing the same thing happening in the USVI.
/out of money? Borrow another billion with no plan to pay it back.
/give it all to tax shelters for businesses who don't actually do business here.
/then forget to upgrade infrastructure so that literally no one can afford to live.
 
2014-06-18 10:01:55 AM  

studebaker hoch: Nature is slowly taking it back.


Is that Pryipet (sp)?
 
2014-06-18 01:18:50 PM  
mjbok

studebaker hoch: Nature is slowly taking it back.

Is that Pryipet (sp)?


Pripyat.  You can see Space Mountain in the background.  (It's closed now)
 
2014-06-18 02:44:16 PM  

studebaker hoch: Pripyat. You can see Space Mountain in the background. (It's closed now)


It was a complete guess at the spelling (and the city).  I had most of the right letters in there.
 
2014-06-18 04:45:50 PM  
mjbok

It's fascinating to watch the years turn to decades out there.

Thanks to the Russian tendency to build entire cities out of reinforced concrete, the empty building shells will be standing for a long time.
 
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