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2014-06-18 12:43:58 AM
Fox News praises Warmaster Horus's loyalty to the Emperor of
Mankind.
 
2014-06-18 12:48:29 AM
Fox News praises Keith Richards for quitting drugs.
 
2014-06-18 12:56:51 AM

Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.



Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?
 
2014-06-18 01:01:34 AM
Fox News praises the Imperium of Man for its commitment to tolerance and diversity.

Fox News praises the Adeptus Ministorum for their acceptance of other belief systems

Fox News praises Slaanesh for his dedication to self control and moderation

Fox News praises Khorne for his dedication to peace and reason.

Fox News praises Hirohito for his steadfast adherence to the principle of separation of church and state.

Fox News praises the Weimar Republic for its sound economy.

Fox News praises China for its stellar human rights record and its sustainable economic policies.
 
2014-06-18 01:10:57 AM
Well no sh*t, I knew that fifteen minutes after our first guys hit the ground. Does that make me freaking God or something?!

Anyone with half an ounce of brains knew that once we landed in there the power vacuum was going to be such an incredible vortex of suck it was going to turn the country inside out. In fact, IIRC, that was  known quite some time before that. I wonder who that might have been.....

Because if we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq. Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it - eastern Iraq - the Iranians would like to claim, In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq. The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families - it wasn't a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right" --Dick Cheney, 1992
 
2014-06-18 01:11:36 AM

tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?


Reality is not your forte, is it.
 
2014-06-18 01:23:29 AM
Fox News praises the addition of Jar Jar Binks to the new Star Wars trilogy.
 
2014-06-18 01:26:37 AM
Fox News praises the Tannen family for their ability to avoid manure.
 
2014-06-18 01:30:15 AM

dascott: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.


Yep... but there are some things worse than war, and Saddam's "peace" wasn't worth the price. Two words: "children's prisons."

"The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter, UN weapon inspector and anti-war activist
 
2014-06-18 01:38:04 AM
Fox News praises Wyle E. Coyote's super genius.
 
2014-06-18 01:39:36 AM
Fox News praises Michael J. Fox's steady hand.

/window seat please
 
2014-06-18 01:48:19 AM
Fox News Praises Roger Ailes's Contributions to the State of Public Discourse in America
 
2014-06-18 01:52:28 AM
Fox News praises Bristol Palin for her virginity.
 
2014-06-18 02:03:02 AM

Tatterdemalian: dascott: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.

Yep... but there are some things worse than war, and Saddam's "peace" wasn't worth the price. Two words: "children's prisons."

"The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter, UN weapon inspector and anti-war activist


Yep. Creating a vacuum which allowed Al Qaeda to establish a foothold in Iraq was soooo much better.
 
2014-06-18 02:26:30 AM
Fox News praises Republicans for being right yet again on Iraq, from the smoking gun imminent threat mushroom cloud WMDs (we found 'em) to people throwing flowers at our troops in the streets to it taking six months and costing less than sixty billion dollars to "mission accomplished". GOP: right every step of the way!
 
2014-06-18 02:28:43 AM

Tatterdemalian: dascott: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.

Yep... but there are some things worse than war, and Saddam's "peace" wasn't worth the price. Two words: "children's prisons."

"The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter, UN weapon inspector and anti-war activist


Iraq is a country that never should have been in the first place.  The borders are unnatural and ignore HUGE historical tribal/cultural and religious divides.   The notion that you can combine factions that have been warring for over a thousand years into a single, unified nation is absolutely ridiculous.  The notion that it can be done without crippling oppression, tyranny and brutality is even more asinine.

Saddam ruled the only way a "country" like Iraq could be ruled.  His reign was disgusting and violated just about every possible interpretation of human rights - but it was the only to keep the population from revolting and returning to their equally brutal thousand year war.

Democracy will NEVER work there because the party voted into power will ALWAYS use the opportunity to issue violent retribution for transgressions dating back to 900AD.   The US is a young country - and as such has no concept of these centuries-long historical grudges or how to end - or even contain them.  When Osama bin Laden published his gripe referencing the Ottoman Empire, Americans collectively shrugged their shoulders.  What we didn't understand is they are fighting wars they didn't start and certainly will not end in their lifetimes.  But they understand this.

There is no political or military solution to end the hate and mistrust these factions have for one another.

If you want Iraq as it currently exists on a map - you're gonna either have never-ending civil war or brutal tyranny.  But if you want anything remotely resembling peace and unity in the region, you're gonna have to let the country split up, allowing borders to form organically.  You can't have it both ways.
 
2014-06-18 02:32:56 AM
Fox News praises Benny Hinn for his biblical cure for AIDS.
 
2014-06-18 02:42:33 AM

what_now: Saborlas: There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

So Fox News is sure to run with it!!

And she may not ever have said it, but she certainly did have fake peasant cottage with sheep and cows, where she could go and play with the animals after someone had cleaned them and pretend that she was a simple shepherdess

I imagine the actual peasants- who were starving- weren't thrilled with that.


Fark needs more Marie Antoinnette threads.
 
2014-06-18 03:00:19 AM

Antonio_Talibanderas: "From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. We shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life. Not one more dollar, not one more airplane, not one more bullet, not one more Marine, not one more arm or leg or eye. Not one more," he said. "This must end now. Now can't we come together on that?"

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/glenn-beck-iraq-war_n_55054 24 .html


Wow. My respect for Beck just went from zero to... nah, it's still zero.
 
2014-06-18 03:05:03 AM

Antonio_Talibanderas: "From the beginning, most people on the left were against raping and murdering that young girl. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. I shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life."

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14

 
2014-06-18 03:07:39 AM
Fox News praises Khan for his wise decision to follow the Enterprise into the Mutara Nebula.

/The rest of us are laughing at the "superior intellect."
 
2014-06-18 03:13:13 AM

HighOnCraic: Antonio_Talibanderas: "From the beginning, most people on the left were against raping and murdering that young girl. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. I shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life."

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14


Ironically, I posted in that original Beck rape/murder thread - but the mods deleted the difficult questions I was asking. When I presented a few possible scenarios of how the rape and murder went down, I was given the banhammer for a few days!    I'm so glad my concern for this crime is no longer a fringe interest worthy of scorn and banishment.  It's been several years and Glenn Beck STILL has not stepped up to answer these serious questions.  Thanks for putting the focus back where it should be!
 
2014-06-18 03:22:51 AM
Fox News calls Hitler a real mensch.
 
2014-06-18 03:28:34 AM
Fox News praises Charles Manson for his sanity and clarity.
 
2014-06-18 03:31:19 AM
Fox News praises Chernobyl Nuclear Plant's safety record.
 
2014-06-18 03:38:57 AM

Antonio_Talibanderas: If you want Iraq as it currently exists on a map - you're gonna either have never-ending civil war or brutal tyranny. But if you want anything remotely resembling peace and unity in the region, you're gonna have to let the country split up, allowing borders to form organically. You can't have it both ways.


Yeah, I said that back in 2003, but since I turned down that goddamn sun god for a chance to have a spa day with the girls, nobody was listening to me. F*cking Apollo, I don't know what anyone sees in him.
 
2014-06-18 03:41:20 AM
Fox News praises Greedo for shooting first.
 
2014-06-18 05:02:16 AM

doofusgumby: tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?

Reality is not your forte, is it.


Until last week, your reality was there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq.   Here's Obama's view:

"If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (ISIS being al Qaeda)
"al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated"
"So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" .
 
2014-06-18 05:51:50 AM

svanmeter: stan unusual: svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.

Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely wit ...

The Peshmerga have seized a key northern area of oil production and transport and Obama hasn't said anything at all about rolling that back and won't- it gives the Kurds a more defensible border, preserves their autonomy, and grants a de facto share of the oil wealth that al Maliki and his allies agreed to share with them (just as they agreed to share with the Sunni tribes of the Sunni Awakening too) promises his government has largely reneged on.  Bush knew what a duplicitous character al Maliki was and how beholden he was to Iran long ago.  He gave Ahmadinejad  a royal welcome at the same time he was poking Bush in the eye over negotiations over power sharing, autonomy and federalism with the Sunnis and Kurds.  al Maliki is the one responsible for the mess Iraq finds itself in now, but like the little kid in the old shake and bake commercial W can proudly exclaim "and I helpt!"   http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/02/iraq.ahmadinejad/index.html

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

/Obama should hand back his Nobel Peace Prize.

You seem fairly well informed. I'll give you the last word.


You are somewhat delusional as well as being historically inaccurate. FWIW, Eisenhower sent the first 'advisors' to Vietnam, not Kennedy. I know that doesn't alter the point you were making, but still, get your facts straight. Also, a few companies of troops assigned to stand guard and assist US citizens in Iraq does not equate to advisors no matter how you try to conflate things. By the way, this whole puppet of Iran thing is a colossal reach and makes you look unhinged.
 
2014-06-18 06:49:36 AM
It's easy to predict something you caused.
 
2014-06-18 07:04:57 AM

Peki: Wyalt Derp: Fox News Praises Rick Perry's Ability To Memorize Lists

Related: Fox News praises Rick Perry's decision to move to California.

/I'm still reeling over that one


Holy shiat!
 
2014-06-18 07:14:08 AM

bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]

This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.


As I've said before, if the people didn't rise up against the rich during the great depression, they won't do it now.
 
2014-06-18 07:29:58 AM
Fox News Praises Mr. T's ability to empathize with those lacking of judgement or sense.
Fox News Praises Idi Amin for his love of his people.
Fox News Praises Tommy Chong for his zero tolerance policy on drugs
 
2014-06-18 08:08:03 AM

Mike_1962: svanmeter: stan unusual: svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.

Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely wit ...

The Peshmerga have seized a key northern area of oil production and transport and Obama hasn't said anything at all about rolling that back and won't- it gives the Kurds a more defensible border, preserves their autonomy, and grants a de facto share of the oil wealth that al Maliki and his allies agreed to share with them (just as they agreed to share with the Sunni tribes of the Sunni Awakening too) promises his government has largely reneged on.  Bush knew what a duplicitous character al Maliki was and how beholden he was to Iran long ago.  He gave Ahmadinejad  a royal welcome at the same time he was poking Bush in the eye over negotiations over power sharing, autonomy and federalism with the Sunnis and Kurds.  al Maliki is the one responsible for the mess Iraq finds itself in now, but like the little kid in the old shake and bake commercial W can proudly exclaim "and I helpt!"   http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/02/iraq.ahmadinejad/index.html

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

/Obama should hand back his Nobel Peace Prize.

You seem fairly well informed. I'll give you the last word.

You are somewhat delusional as well as being historically inaccurate. FWIW, Eisenhower sent the first 'advisors' to Vietnam, not Kennedy. I know that doesn't alter the point you were making, but still, get your facts straight. Also, a few companies of troops assigned to stand guard and assist US citizens in Iraq does not equate to advisors no matter how you try to conflate things. By the way, this whole puppet of Iran thing is a colossal reach and makes you look unhinged.


It's awfully hard to convince anyone someone is delusional and has their history wrong when YOU are the fool with incorrect facts:

Go to JFK's own museum homepage:


http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1961.html


May 1961 - President Kennedy sends 400 American Green Beret 'Special Advisors' to South Vietnam to train South Vietnamese soldiers in methods of 'counter-insurgency' in the fight against Viet Cong guerrillas.

The role of the Green Berets soon expands to include the establishment of Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) made up of fierce mountain men known as the Montagnards. These groups establish a series of fortified camps strung out along the mountains to thwart infiltration by North Vietnamese.

/the point you missed is not that troops were sent, It's that Obama went against his vow not to send any. His whole response with aircraft carriers shows that he can be played by Iran to do their dirty work. He said he wouldn't get involved, but as soon as Iran said that THEY would, he had to react. I don't blame him so much for that, I blame him for being short sighted and now looking like he's Iran's fool. I blame him for being motivated by OIL interests, which is the root of all his decisions in the region. Not very becoming of a Nobel Prize winner.
 
2014-06-18 08:15:31 AM

tbeatty: doofusgumby: tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?

Reality is not your forte, is it.

Until last week, your reality was there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq.   Here's Obama's view:

"If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (ISIS being al Qaeda)
"al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated"
"So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" .


"here are a bunch of quotes that I just made up."
 
2014-06-18 08:22:12 AM

DrBenway: svanmeter: DrBenway: svanmeter: stan unusual:

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any.

I could swear there's been an awful lot of biatching and moaning about us not having adequately secured our consulate in Benghazi. Does that ring a bell at all? But here you are saying we shouldn't send any troops to secure the embassy in Baghdad because Obama said he wouldn't send any. That is truly brilliant.

Nope you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not opposed to protecting our people. I'm opposed to a president who says he won't get involved then he does, only because he doesn't want the Iranians to fill the void:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=

Now he looks like Iran's biatch. I wish he would come clean and confess that all he is interested in are the OIL fields that ISIS would control. He also worries that Iranian involvement would endanger OIL production from those same fields. Violence in the name of OIL is not becoming of a Nobel Prize Winner.

Oh? I'm only going by your own comments. And in response to someone pointing out the purpose of the forces being sent in, you pretty clearly stated that you didn't care why they were there, and that it was a problem no matter what because he said he wouldn't send any troops.

So now you say you do want him to protect the embassy and US citizens there, just not with any troops? You're not making a whole lot of sense. Or if you are, you're being painfully inconsistent in trying to do so.


Whether troops are sent or not is not the point. You miss the point. The POINT is that Obama said he wouldn't get involved. Then as soon as Iran said that they would, he felt compelled to act. He quickly sent in aircraft carriers and now troops.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=


He acted to prevent Iran from crossing the border and getting near the OIL fields. Iran is happy because they can get their enemies attacked without lifting a finger. Obama got PLAYED by Iran, who is laughing at us.

Once again, it's not about troops. It's about Obama taking action to protect OIL interests. Protect OIL from ISIS control. Protect OIL from Iranian involvement.

It's about the OIL. It's really not that hard to understand, unless your worldview - in which Obama can do no wrong - won't allow you to see what's really going on.
 
2014-06-18 09:04:13 AM
In other words, "it's not the point that I'm contradicting the everlovin' crap out of myself..." Typically not a great way to make your argument.

Anyway, if you're going to go with the whole "Iran is playing him, Iran is laughing at us" tack, it's a bit silly to keep saying "NOW" over and over. That being your mindset on current circumstances, I would be very surprised indeed to hear that, in your opinion, our talks with them regarding weapons programs was a great diplomatic success for us, and that they weren't playing him and laughing at us THEN.
 
2014-06-18 09:26:15 AM

cameroncrazy1984: tbeatty: doofusgumby: tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?

Reality is not your forte, is it.

Until last week, your reality was there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq.   Here's Obama's view:

"If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (ISIS being al Qaeda)
"al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated"
"So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" .

"here are a bunch of quotes that I just made up."


Wow.  You are as dumb as you seem.  How's that IEP count to potato coming along?
Here's the quotes.  Wake up.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick? cu rrentPage=all  Kobe  january 2014
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-war-on-terror-aumf  decimated, repeated by MSNBC May 2014 - now he wants troops.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military-jan-june11-obamaspeech_06-22 /  "Tide of war receding" June 2011

Exxon is pulling out of Iraq.  Shiat just got real and you will see the Climate President ask Exxon "how high do I jump?"
 
2014-06-18 09:51:34 AM
Fox News praises CNNs ability to report the news.
 
2014-06-18 10:20:29 AM
Fox News praises Ferris Bueller for his devotion to school.
 
2014-06-18 12:13:40 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]

This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.

As I've said before, if the people didn't rise up against the rich during the great depression, they won't do it now.


If there had not been a New Deal, or if Prescott Bush and his cronies had pulled off the fascist coup they wanted, I wonder if there might have been a popular uprising?
 
2014-06-18 12:56:23 PM

anfrind: Tyrone Slothrop: bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]

This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.

As I've said before, if the people didn't rise up against the rich during the great depression, they won't do it now.

If there had not been a New Deal, or if Prescott Bush and his cronies had pulled off the fascist coup they wanted, I wonder if there might have been a popular uprising?


The Sacco and Venzetti ticket?  They're like Ralph Nader without all the curb appeal.
 
2014-06-18 01:05:45 PM
I really have nothing to add to this conversation, other than to say...

I don't believe I have hit the "funny" and "Smart" button so many times in one thread. Thank you Fark, you have made my week!
 
2014-06-18 01:14:57 PM
Fox News praises Larry Craig's wide stance on the gay agenda.
 
2014-06-18 01:43:25 PM

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


Lame troll is lame.
The ACA can provide you with crutches...
 
2014-06-18 03:47:12 PM
And the rest of the world (especially all those protesters) told him in 2003.
Go back to painting your feet, asshole.
 
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