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(Think Progress)   From the you have got to be kidding me files: Fox News Praises George W. Bush's Ability To Anticipate Problems In Iraq   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 446
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2014-06-17 12:22:12 PM  
Fox News Praises Bill Buckner's Ability To Field a Routine Ground Ball in a Pressure Situation
 
2014-06-17 12:26:42 PM  
Fox News praises Joss Whedon's Ability to Create Television Shows With Massive Popularity Despite a Lack of Critical Acclaim
 
2014-06-17 12:27:20 PM  
FOX News Praises Harold's Ability to Withstand the Norman Invasion.
 
2014-06-17 12:29:31 PM  
Fox News Praises The Cast And Crew of "Caddyshack" For Making A Classic American Film Without the Help Of Recreational Narcotics
 
2014-06-17 12:30:36 PM  
Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate
 
2014-06-17 12:35:09 PM  
Fox News Praises Archduke Ferdinand's Driver For Navigating the Crowded and Troubled Streets of Sarajevo Without Incident
 
2014-06-17 12:58:20 PM  
Fox News Praises Titanic's Ability to Withstand an Iceberg Collision
 
2014-06-17 12:58:24 PM  

what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate


Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.
 
2014-06-17 01:08:41 PM  
Fox News Praises Flame Retardence of The Hindenburg
 
2014-06-17 01:09:30 PM  

Saborlas: There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.


So Fox News is sure to run with it!!

And she may not ever have said it, but she certainly did have fake peasant cottage with sheep and cows, where she could go and play with the animals after someone had cleaned them and pretend that she was a simple shepherdess

I imagine the actual peasants- who were starving- weren't thrilled with that.
 
2014-06-17 01:09:38 PM  
Fox news praises Frank Miller for his progressive treatment of female characters.
 
2014-06-17 01:09:53 PM  
Must have been rough to have the same name as the former President and have known the Iraq was a looming clusterfark.
 
2014-06-17 01:24:08 PM  
Fox News praises Bernie Madoff's business ethics.
 
2014-06-17 01:25:48 PM  
Fox News praises space shuttle Challenger's ability to withstand O-Ring failure,
 
2014-06-17 01:31:18 PM  
Fox News Praises Hitler's Ability to Anticipate Problems in Russia
 
2014-06-17 01:36:18 PM  
Fox News Praises Vince McMahon for producing well written and classy family entertainment.
 
2014-06-17 01:50:33 PM  
FOX News Praises McDonald's Ability to Provide Healthful Food in Sensible Portions.
 
2014-06-17 01:53:26 PM  
I've seen this episode before.  It's where they figure out that the arsonist is a firefighter.
 
2014-06-17 01:55:18 PM  
Fox News Praises Bernie Madoff's Efforts to Prevent Foolhardy Investments
 
2014-06-17 01:59:11 PM  
Fox News praises Fox News for their ability to be Fair and Balanced®
 
2014-06-17 02:00:28 PM  
Fox News Praises Putin's Renewed Nationalism
 
2014-06-17 02:06:54 PM  
Fox News praises JFK for great catching ability
 
2014-06-17 02:07:03 PM  
Fox News Praises Bart Gunn's Boxing Prowess Against Seasoned Heavyweight
 
2014-06-17 02:07:25 PM  
Fox News praises the Catholic Church on their dedication to justice in the cases of abusive priests.
 
2014-06-17 02:10:47 PM  
Fox News praise OJ Simpson for his knife skills.
 
2014-06-17 02:10:57 PM  
Fox News praises Dewey's defeat of Truman.
 
2014-06-17 02:13:23 PM  
Fox News Praises Atlanta's Tireless Defense Against Sherman's Invading Army
 
2014-06-17 02:14:33 PM  
Fox News Praises Emperor Nero's Commitment to His Art
 
2014-06-17 02:23:43 PM  
Fox News praises Chevy Chase for his excellent cake handling skills
 
2014-06-17 02:25:51 PM  
WHAR FUNNY LINK WHAR????
 
2014-06-17 02:29:16 PM  

ManateeGag: Fox News praise OJ Simpson for his knife skills.


Fox News praises OJ Simpson's Determination to Find Real Killer.
 
2014-06-17 02:29:40 PM  
Fox News Praises Fark for the General Bonhomie of its Politics Tab
 
2014-06-17 02:34:12 PM  
Fox News praises Francisco Franco for not dealing with old age anymore
 
2014-06-17 02:40:20 PM  
Fox News Praises President Reagan for this handling of the Iran Contra Affair.


No, wait, that probably would happen.
 
2014-06-17 03:12:36 PM  
President Obama later urged Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to accept American troops in Iraq after 2011, but after the Iraqis would not grant a status of forces agreement that would grant certain immunities to American soldiers, the U.S. military advised Obama to completely pull out of Iraq.

should have granted that status of forces agreement.
 
2014-06-17 03:17:59 PM  
Fox News Praises Ike Turner for his excellent relationship skills
 
2014-06-17 03:20:47 PM  
Fox praises Gen. Custer on his Sioux Indian management strategy.
 
2014-06-17 03:20:59 PM  

Saborlas: There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.


Then it fits perfectly with praise from Fox.
 
2014-06-17 03:22:32 PM  

SlothB77: should have granted that status of forces agreement.


Probably, but Maliki didn't have the public support to pull it off.

Also, he's a stupid asshole for marginalizing all the Sunnis.
 
2014-06-17 03:38:27 PM  
That's some side-splitting comedy right there.
 
2014-06-17 03:40:11 PM  
Oh my god.  And this thread!

/lololol
 
2014-06-17 03:45:35 PM  
Fox News Praises Rand Paul on his Recycling Program
 
2014-06-17 03:55:59 PM  

Diogenes: Fox News Praises Rand Paul on his Recycling Program


*snert*

Guess that's one way to put it.
 
2014-06-17 03:57:41 PM  
Fox News praises Lorena Bobbitt's problem-solving abilities.
 
2014-06-17 04:01:46 PM  
Fox News Praises Mitt Romney for Being Able To Understand the Working Man.

/oh wait...that actually happened.
 
2014-06-17 04:08:38 PM  
For once they are correct. When you create the problem, it is actually possible to anticipate it.

For example, if you plan on hitting your head on a piece of brick, you can anticipate that there will be some pain.
 
2014-06-17 04:09:44 PM  
Okay, great. Now we're back to forgetting that Bush brokered our troops' withdrawal from Iraq.
 
2014-06-17 04:10:03 PM  
Sooner or later Iraqis needed to be responsible for their own country. They were not going to do it just because we spent another decade there.
 
2014-06-17 04:10:45 PM  
Fox News praises viewers ability to predict the next word that would come out of Hodor's mouth.
 
2014-06-17 04:11:18 PM  
Fox News praises Sarah Palin's determination and persistence.
 
2014-06-17 04:11:46 PM  
Fox News Praises Rick Santorum's Outreach to the African American Community.
 
2014-06-17 04:12:00 PM  
Fox News Praises Drug Resistant Tuberculosis for it's ability to anticipate being treated with antibiotics.
 
2014-06-17 04:13:01 PM  
Fox News Praises Chris Brown for his Makeup Artistry.
 
2014-06-17 04:13:30 PM  
Fox News praises its viewer's critical thinking skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:13:30 PM  
Fox News Praises Jefferson Davis For His Dedication to States' Rights.
 
2014-06-17 04:14:02 PM  
Fox News praises Kirk Cameron's complete grasp of basic scientific principles.
 
2014-06-17 04:14:24 PM  
thinkprogress.org

HE'S LIKE NOSTRADUMBASS!
 
2014-06-17 04:14:29 PM  
Well, we were greeted as liberators, and we got it done on the cheap. Besides, the mission was accomplished years before we had to send even more troops over to get it re-accomplished. Finally, it took O'baMAO to cut and run only 5 years later. Also, it was indeed done on the cheap.
 
2014-06-17 04:14:34 PM  
Fox News Praises Carl Lewis for his ability to sing the National Anthem.
 
2014-06-17 04:15:08 PM  
Fox News praises Rumsfeld's ability to know unknowns.
 
2014-06-17 04:15:55 PM  
Fox News Praised Chamberlain's Agreement With Hitler.

/Posthumously
 
2014-06-17 04:16:08 PM  
Fox News Praises Former Secretary Rumsfeld for Creation of Small Business Subsidy Fund Paid For With Iraq Oil Profits
 
2014-06-17 04:16:30 PM  
Fox News praises Dick Cheney's ability to anticipate target trajectory while impaired.
 
2014-06-17 04:16:57 PM  
Fox News Praises FARK Independents' Thoughtful, Well-Sourced Contributions to Politics Threads
 
2014-06-17 04:17:52 PM  
Fox News praises Stringer Bell from "The Wire" for getting Omar Little and Brother Mouzone together to forge an agreement to end the animosity and violence between them.
 
2014-06-17 04:18:38 PM  
lol Think Progress.
 
2014-06-17 04:18:40 PM  
Fox News praises Putin's commitment to transparency

/wait... They really did that, didn't they?
 
2014-06-17 04:19:24 PM  
Fox News praises Todd Adkin's dating self-help book, "So When Is Rape  ReallyRape?"
 
2014-06-17 04:20:07 PM  
i61.tinypic.com

/problem?
 
2014-06-17 04:20:29 PM  

EkimProx: lol Think Progress.


Fox News praises EkimProx's ability to form a cogent argument.
 
2014-06-17 04:20:41 PM  
Fox News Praises Stephen Hawking on his Jump Shot
 
2014-06-17 04:20:44 PM  

evilmrsock: Fox News Praises FARK Independents' Thoughtful, Well-Sourced Contributions to Politics Threads


For example:

EkimProx: lol Think Progress.

 
2014-06-17 04:20:49 PM  
Fox News Praises Peyton Manning's ability to win big games.
 
2014-06-17 04:20:53 PM  
This is kind of like the arsonist telling the fire crew that the fire might flare up again if they don't get all of the hot spots as he hops in his car and bails...
 
2014-06-17 04:20:56 PM  
Fox News praises Fox News for Benghazi foresight.
 
2014-06-17 04:21:05 PM  
Fox News praises Islam for not being too preachy.
 
2014-06-17 04:21:39 PM  
(bookmarked, lol-ed, thank you all, I love you)
 
2014-06-17 04:22:00 PM  
Fox News praises ZZ Top's drummer for his grooming skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:22:41 PM  
Fox News praises Catholic priests for unique approach to sexual education.
 
2014-06-17 04:23:06 PM  
Fox News praises ThinkProgress for being just as fair and balanced as they are.
 
2014-06-17 04:23:19 PM  

SlothB77: President Obama later urged Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to accept American troops in Iraq after 2011, but after the Iraqis would not grant a status of forces agreement that would grant certain immunities to American soldiers, the U.S. military advised Obama to completely pull out of Iraq.

should have granted that status of forces agreement.


In our eyes, this makes sense, especially now.

In his eyes, we would have stopped him from completely pissing off (and pissing on) the Sunni citizens of his country, which is why he refused.  Of course, had he not had done that, ISIS wouldn't have been able to take over the Sunni areas with the locals' tacit support.

Don't worry, he can now snuggle up to Shia Iran and form Iranq!
 
2014-06-17 04:23:27 PM  
This one is gonna be good.

making popcorn right now
 
2014-06-17 04:24:03 PM  
FOX News: Taking creative Propaganda to its next level.   lolzz
 
2014-06-17 04:24:18 PM  
Fox News praises Def Leppard drummer for ambidexterity.
 
2014-06-17 04:24:27 PM  
Fox News Praises Walter White For His Dedication to Small Business Job Creation
 
2014-06-17 04:24:29 PM  
Quickly approaching threadic epicocity.
 
2014-06-17 04:24:36 PM  
Fox News praises its viewers for not caring they omitted a crucial part of W's statement during this segment.
 
2014-06-17 04:24:38 PM  
Fox News praises Liberace's heterosexuality.
 
2014-06-17 04:24:46 PM  
Fox News Praises Andrea Yates As Their Mother Of The Century.
 
2014-06-17 04:25:15 PM  
Fox News praises Ken Lay on his business ethics, brilliant business strategy.
 
2014-06-17 04:25:29 PM  
Fox News praises Oliver North for his ability as an accountant.
 
2014-06-17 04:25:30 PM  
Fox News praises Lord Jeffery Amherst's benevolence in helping Native Americans to stay warm in winter.
 
2014-06-17 04:25:39 PM  
JON STEWART:  you are being paged.................

he'll have fun with this one.  landed right in his lap.  a freebie.
 
2014-06-17 04:25:54 PM  
Fox praises Bush's groundbreaking discovery that water is wet.
 
2014-06-17 04:26:02 PM  
Fox News awards Fox News the Fox News Award for Excellence in Unbiased Broadcast Journalism
 
2014-06-17 04:26:13 PM  

gimmegimme: Fox News Praises Rick Santorum's Outreach to the African American gay Community.

 
2014-06-17 04:26:29 PM  
Fox News Praises Iran And Nigeria For An Exciting Soccer Match In Group F Of The World Cup.
 
2014-06-17 04:26:45 PM  

ox45tallboy: Fox News praises Lorena Bobbitt's problem-solving abilities.


To be fair, it put an end to him beating on her, didn't it?
Problem solved.
 
2014-06-17 04:27:08 PM  

ox45tallboy: Fox News praises Lorena Bobbitt's problem-solving abilities.


Tons of good ones here, but you get this...

www.phlashers.com
 
2014-06-17 04:27:26 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Must have been rough to have the same name as the former President and have known the Iraq was a looming clusterfark.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-17 04:27:33 PM  
Fox News praises BP's environmental record.
 
2014-06-17 04:27:34 PM  
Fox News praises Rob Liefeld's understanding of human anatomy.
 
2014-06-17 04:27:47 PM  
I've noticed that right wing themed troll accounts seem to have largely stayed out of this thread, even with 100 comments in.

Right wingers; doesn't this level of bullshiat ever just embarrass you?  Even a little?
 
2014-06-17 04:27:51 PM  
Fox News praises NASA for its success with landing Men on gaseous Saturn.
 
2014-06-17 04:27:54 PM  
All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?
 
2014-06-17 04:27:55 PM  
Fox News Praises Jose Canseco For His Crusading Work in Raising Awareness about PEDs in Sport
 
2014-06-17 04:28:01 PM  
Fox News praises Abraham Lincoln for his taste in theater.

/too soon?
 
2014-06-17 04:28:03 PM  
Fox News praises Todd Akin's legitimate penis
 
2014-06-17 04:28:15 PM  
Fox News praises John Bolton's diplomatic skills.

/probably DID happen!
 
2014-06-17 04:28:20 PM  
Fox News Praises Rick Perry's Ability To Memorize Lists
 
Ehh
2014-06-17 04:28:20 PM  
Fox News praises OJ Simpson's ability to maintain good relations with his spouse during divorce.
 
2014-06-17 04:28:28 PM  
Fox News Praises George W Bush For Deficit Reduction And Private Sector Job Creation, Thanks To Record Low Taxes.
 
2014-06-17 04:28:47 PM  
Fox News praises Typhoid Mary's community outreach program
 
2014-06-17 04:29:08 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I've noticed that right wing themed troll accounts seem to have largely stayed out of this thread, even with 100 comments in.

Right wingers; doesn't this level of bullshiat ever just embarrass you?  Even a little?


I noticed the same thing about the Obama-just-got-the-Benghazi-guy thread.
 
2014-06-17 04:29:29 PM  
Fox News praises Vigo, scourge of Carpathia, for peaceful resolution in Moldavia.
 
2014-06-17 04:29:42 PM  
Fox News praises Larry Craig for his wide stance and position on gay lifestyles.
 
2014-06-17 04:29:55 PM  
Fox News praises the Burning Man Festival's commitment to moderation.
 
2014-06-17 04:29:57 PM  
Fox News Praises Jake Delhomme for his fine quarterbacking skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:30:05 PM  
Fox News praises the Pshychic Friends Network for their stellar foreign policy consultation.
 
2014-06-17 04:30:25 PM  
Fox News Praises Jame Gumb's Commitment to Costume Design.
 
2014-06-17 04:30:42 PM  

svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?


So far Obama hasn't attacked anybody, despite calls to do so by John McCain and other Republicans.
 
2014-06-17 04:30:48 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Fox News Praises Rick Perry's Ability To Memorize Lists


Related: Fox News praises Rick Perry's decision to move to California.

/I'm still reeling over that one
 
2014-06-17 04:30:49 PM  
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2014-06-17 04:30:51 PM  
Fox News Praises Caitlin Upton for her ability to give spontaneous and thoughtful responses to teen beauty pageant questions.
 
2014-06-17 04:30:59 PM  
Fox News Praises Cast And Crew Of "Bucky Larson: Born to Be a Star"
 
2014-06-17 04:31:04 PM  

SilentStrider: Fox News praises space shuttle Challenger's ability to withstand O-Ring failure,


I would truly applaud someone if they could withstand human o-ring failure while remaining spotless
 
2014-06-17 04:31:20 PM  
Fox News praises Scott Norwood on his clutch kicking skills
 
2014-06-17 04:31:22 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I've noticed that right wing themed troll accounts seem to have largely stayed out of this thread, even with 100 comments in.

Right wingers; doesn't this level of bullshiat ever just embarrass you?  Even a little?


Bush should be in jail writing all these down.
 
2014-06-17 04:31:25 PM  
www.screw-paypal.com
"That's Mr. PRESIDENT trustafarian,coke addled scion of a CIA spook to you, pal!"
 
2014-06-17 04:32:04 PM  
Fox News praises Paula Deen's new Fox TV show "Cooking with Blackface".
 
2014-06-17 04:32:58 PM  
I wish some billionaire would buy Fox News & just fire everyone!
 
2014-06-17 04:33:24 PM  
Fox News praises Hindenburg design team for advances in passenger cabin heating technology.
 
2014-06-17 04:33:24 PM  
George W. Bush's Ability To Anticipate create Problems In Iraq

FTFT.
 
2014-06-17 04:33:28 PM  

Geotpf: svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?

So far Obama hasn't attacked anybody, despite calls to do so by John McCain and other Republicans.


So, your intimating that if he does send troops in or attacks someone that it will be the republican's fault. Very proactive.
 
2014-06-17 04:33:36 PM  
I hate those cawsksaggin Bushes worse that I hate the farking papist sucking goldigging asswiping murderous racist farking assholes the Kennedys and you know how I feel about those farking sonsuvbeetioches.
 
2014-06-17 04:34:22 PM  
Fox News praises Aaron Hernandez's people skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:34:38 PM  
Fox News praises Bush for going two whole terms without a terrorist attack.

/wait, they actually did that
 
2014-06-17 04:34:59 PM  
Fox News praises Margot Al-Hazari on her unique remodeling skills
 
2014-06-17 04:35:12 PM  
Fox News Praises Mosquito Community For Keeping Themselves To Themselves
 
2014-06-17 04:35:17 PM  
Time will reveal he was one of the wisest leaders of the 20th century
 
2014-06-17 04:36:04 PM  
Fox News praises Chicago Cubs on post-season accomplishments.
 
2014-06-17 04:36:17 PM  
Fox News praises Carlos Mencia's talent for creating original stand-up comedy routines.
 
2014-06-17 04:36:30 PM  
Fox News praises the Miami Heat on their 2014 NBA Finals play
 
2014-06-17 04:36:35 PM  
Fox News praises Vince McMahon's ability to start a professional football league.
 
2014-06-17 04:36:54 PM  

what_now: I imagine the actual peasants- who were starving- weren't thrilled with that.


they weren't exactly head over heels about it, like she was.
 
2014-06-17 04:37:20 PM  
Fox News praises Pepe for his ability to reamin calm
 
Ehh
2014-06-17 04:37:37 PM  
Fox News praises Vlad the Impaler's consensus building.
 
2014-06-17 04:38:05 PM  
Fox News praises Led Zeppelin for their originality in their early years
 
2014-06-17 04:38:21 PM  

Geotpf: svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?

So far Obama hasn't attacked anybody, despite calls to do so by John McCain and other Republicans.


He is sending aircraft carriers into the region. He is protecting Big OIL interest$. He is being used by Iran to avoid their involvement in the region. He can't afford allowing Iran to get involved and for them to get control of OIL resources. Follow the money. Iran is having a great laugh at his expense.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=
 
2014-06-17 04:38:29 PM  
Of course they did --  Saint "W" can do no wrong.
 
2014-06-17 04:38:54 PM  
Fox News praised Amy Winehouse on her drinking abilities
 
2014-06-17 04:39:38 PM  
Fox news praises Pol Pot for his dedication to population control.
 
2014-06-17 04:39:40 PM  
Fox News praises Drew Curtis' lifetime of sobriety.
 
2014-06-17 04:40:17 PM  

KingKauff: Fox News praises Pepe for his ability to remain calm


...Also Credits Christiano Ronaldo's Ability To Keep On His Feet
 
2014-06-17 04:40:25 PM  
Fox News praises BJ Upton AND Dan Uggla on their hitting abilities
 
2014-06-17 04:40:39 PM  
Fox News praises Ted Bundy on his long lasting relationship skills
 
2014-06-17 04:41:03 PM  

SlothB77: President Obama later urged Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to accept American troops in Iraq after 2011, but after the Iraqis would not grant a status of forces agreement that would grant certain immunities to American soldiers, the U.S. military advised Obama to completely pull out of Iraq.

should have granted that status of forces agreement.


So Iraq was supposed to be a democratically-elected republic over which the US would hold sovereignty? Do you not perceive the mutual exclusivity? Or have you been watching too much Fox?
 
2014-06-17 04:41:15 PM  
FOX News Praises Cats and Dogs for Centuries of Peaceful Coexistence.
 
2014-06-17 04:41:18 PM  
Fox News praises the Spartan army's policy on paederasty.
 
2014-06-17 04:42:32 PM  

Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.


We do always enjoy seeing that Fun-At-Parties Guy has weighed in.
 
2014-06-17 04:42:37 PM  
This thread delivers.
 
2014-06-17 04:42:52 PM  
Fox News praises Donald Trump for casino operation and ability to
poop in a thimble "bink"
 
2014-06-17 04:43:22 PM  
Fox News praises Italians for their friendliness to boat people.
 
2014-06-17 04:43:34 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I've noticed that right wing themed troll accounts seem to have largely stayed out of this thread, even with 100 comments in.

Right wingers; doesn't this level of bullshiat ever just embarrass you?  Even a little?


Fox News praises Fark Independents for their humility.
 
2014-06-17 04:43:43 PM  

svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?


So you're refocusing us by pointing a finger at Obama?  I'm really not following your post at all.

If you think Obama is relevant to the ongoing unraveling of Iraq at this point you're really deluding yourself.

There would have been a strong possibility of this happening even if we had fully committed ourselves to Operation Enduring Occupation.  Regardless of who sits in the White House.
 
2014-06-17 04:43:50 PM  
Fox News praises so much win in this thread
 
2014-06-17 04:43:55 PM  
Fox News praises Ted Cruz's nuanced understanding of Green Eggs And Ham
 
2014-06-17 04:44:23 PM  
Fox News Praises A-Rod For Selfless, Team-Player Attitude
 
2014-06-17 04:44:39 PM  
Fox News  praises Anthony Weiner's photographic skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:44:59 PM  
Fox News praises the GOP leadership on making women feel special
 
2014-06-17 04:45:18 PM  
Faux News praises O.J. Simpsons knife skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:45:23 PM  
Bush was right, Fark was wrong. News at 11:00.

But heh, at least we have every western person in Iraq scrambling to evacuate out of fear under Obama's reign.

Obama is stronk. Not.
 
2014-06-17 04:45:42 PM  
Fox News praises Hitler for his religious tolerance
 
2014-06-17 04:46:13 PM  
Fox New praises Ted Nugent for his bravery in battle.
 
2014-06-17 04:46:18 PM  
Fox News Praises Kim Il-Sung for His Strong Leadership.

Oh, they did that, didn't they?
 
2014-06-17 04:46:50 PM  

Hi! I can lick my own eyebrows: Fox New praises Ted Nugent for his bravery in battle.


Fox News praises Ted Nugent on his hunting skills
 
2014-06-17 04:48:22 PM  
No...GHWB had foreign foresight.  (killed by his own though)

GWB simply had "daddy issues"...
 
2014-06-17 04:49:12 PM  
Fox News praises Rush Limbaugh for getting behind Boy's Clubs of Dominican Republic.
 
2014-06-17 04:49:16 PM  

cynicalMFer: Of course they did --  Saint "W" can do no wrong.


You mean the man they ignored for two whole election cycles.
 
2014-06-17 04:49:22 PM  
Faux News praises Louie Gohmert and Rick Perry for their dazzling intellects.
 
2014-06-17 04:49:53 PM  
Fox News Praises Ming Dynasty For Wearing Camouflage And Terrorist Beards
 
2014-06-17 04:50:33 PM  

Thunderpipes: Bush was right, Fark was wrong. News at 11:00.


The Earth is a cube, fossils were planted by Satan.  News at 11:00 (on FOX)
 
2014-06-17 04:51:20 PM  

gimmegimme: Fox News Praises Kim Il-Sung for His Strong Leadership.

Oh, they did that, didn't they?


Fox News Praises Glorious Leader For Winning US Open And Leading The 2014 FedExCup Standings
 
2014-06-17 04:51:25 PM  
Fox news praises Kanye West for his inspirational tact.
 
2014-06-17 04:51:56 PM  
Fox News praises Umbrella Corp for their outstanding outbreak containment protocols

/are we allowed to use fictitious characters/events?
//is Umbrella still alive in that world?
 
2014-06-17 04:52:11 PM  
Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.
 
2014-06-17 04:52:40 PM  

Thunderpipes: Bush was right, Fark was wrong. News at 11:00.

But heh, at least we have every western person in Iraq scrambling to evacuate out of fear under Obama's reign.

Obama is stronk. Not.


So you see nothing at all wrong or disingenuous in deliberately creating a problem, sitting back and "predicting" the consequences of the problem you created, and receiving praise for your "insight?"

You really are a one-note moron.  I hope Bush appreciates your fellatio skills.
 
2014-06-17 04:53:08 PM  
Fox News praises Philip Seymour Hoffman on his continued sobriety

/too soon?
 
2014-06-17 04:53:17 PM  
Fox News praises Operation American Spring for their large turnout.
 
2014-06-17 04:53:28 PM  

tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.


You do know Bush signed the agreement for the troops to leave right?
 
2014-06-17 04:53:47 PM  

Diogenes: Thunderpipes: Bush was right, Fark was wrong. News at 11:00.

But heh, at least we have every western person in Iraq scrambling to evacuate out of fear under Obama's reign.

Obama is stronk. Not.

So you see nothing at all wrong or disingenuous in deliberately creating a problem, sitting back and "predicting" the consequences of the problem you created, and receiving praise for your "insight?"

You really are a one-note moron.  I hope Bush appreciates your fellatio skills.


Oh, and how was Fark wrong?  I've been around here a looong time and we all pretty much concluded Iraq was farked.
 
2014-06-17 04:54:45 PM  

tbeatty: Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.


Sure.

Go with that, there.

Who could doubt that?

Vote early and vote often.  I think Diebold is in the book.
 
2014-06-17 04:54:54 PM  

KingKauff: Fox News praises Philip Seymour Hoffman on his continued sobriety

/too soon?



No, no, no.

/And I will always love you.
 
2014-06-17 04:56:11 PM  
Fox News praises hilarious new NBC Thursday night lineup.
 
2014-06-17 04:56:22 PM  
Fox News praises Fark admins for selecting funny headlines.
 
2014-06-17 04:57:01 PM  

tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.


My 401(k), the stock markets, the employment rate, and the reduced deficit says what? The only way you'd say Bush were better was if you wanted the markets to fail, and unemployment to rise, and the deficit to skyrocket.

And we haven't even talked about the number of Americans killed on their respective watches, have we. It's like comparing apples to two Boeings flown into skyscrapers.
 
2014-06-17 04:57:03 PM  
Fox News praises Jon McCain's piloting abilities.
 
2014-06-17 04:58:00 PM  

tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic


Seriously, it takes real skills to predict that centuries-old ethnic and sectarian hatred would flare up again.

The dude's a fkn human crystal ball!!
 
2014-06-17 04:58:10 PM  

Mikey1969: This is kind of like the arsonist telling the fire crew that the fire might flare up again if they don't get all of the hot spots as he hops in his car and bails...


Plus the firefighters leaving a smoking, smoldering heap and saying "Were done" and heading home
 
2014-06-17 04:58:56 PM  
The best thing about these threads is that nobody has learned from the ostensibly ground breaking presidency of Barack Obama, black guy, that it don't matter if a stick of butter is president, and it hasn't since 1980.  The president's job is to hold the goose while the grease goes through it and be the public opinion dartboard.
 
2014-06-17 05:00:02 PM  

trappedspirit: Mikey1969: This is kind of like the arsonist telling the fire crew that the fire might flare up again if they don't get all of the hot spots as he hops in his car and bails...

Plus the firefighters leaving a smoking, smoldering heap and saying "Were done" and heading home


Especially if the firefighters are the one who started the blaze in the first place.
 
2014-06-17 05:00:34 PM  
Fox News praises Michelle Bachman for her knowledge of history.
 
2014-06-17 05:01:13 PM  

Thunderpipes: Bush was right, Fark was wrong. News at 11:00.

But heh, at least we have every western person in Iraq scrambling to evacuate out of fear under Obama's reign.

Obama is stronk. Not.


Hey dumbass... refugees having been fleeing Iraq since this war started. This is nothing new.  I was going to type out a lengthy reply then realized how I was replying to. DOH! There isn't anything that can be said to you so they best we can all do it ignore you and get back to work because you have nothing of value to add.
 
2014-06-17 05:01:40 PM  
Christ on his farking throne....

Why the fark is Bush not in prison for war crimes?
 
2014-06-17 05:01:50 PM  
Fox News Praises Rush Limbaugh for overcoming obesity and drug dependency.
 
2014-06-17 05:02:45 PM  
Fox News Praises Jeffrey Dahmer For Being Head and Shoulders Above the Rest.
 
2014-06-17 05:03:41 PM  
Fox News Praises Hindenberg Designer's Design and Selection of Materials.
 
2014-06-17 05:03:48 PM  
Fox News praises Sarah Palin on her folksy speechifyin'.
 
2014-06-17 05:04:12 PM  
Fox News praises AkaDad for his genius intellect.
 
2014-06-17 05:04:39 PM  
FOX News Praises Nazism: "well, at least Hitler knew how to get an economy running again, so maybe he wasn't such a bad guy, after all".
 
2014-06-17 05:04:47 PM  
Wait... you mean when you illegally invade a country, remove the government, and kill tens of thousands of their citizens you don't suddenly end up with the middle eastern version of Mister Rodgers' Neighborhood?
 
2014-06-17 05:05:54 PM  

Jackpot777: tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.

My 401(k), the stock markets, the employment rate, and the reduced deficit says what? The only way you'd say Bush were better was if you wanted the markets to fail, and unemployment to rise, and the deficit to skyrocket.

And we haven't even talked about the number of Americans killed on their respective watches, have we. It's like comparing apples to two Boeings flown into skyscrapers.


To be fair, that guy is a moron.
 
2014-06-17 05:06:16 PM  
Fox news praises Mussolini for making the trains run on time.
 
2014-06-17 05:06:26 PM  
Fox News praises Humpty Dumpy for his ability to sit on walls.
 
2014-06-17 05:06:49 PM  
Awesome thread is awesome.
 
2014-06-17 05:06:51 PM  

Surool: Wait... you mean when you illegally invade a country, remove the government, and kill tens of thousands of their citizens you don't suddenly end up with the middle eastern version of Mister Rodgers' Neighborhood?


Bush reaction to being told of Sunni/Shi'ite violence following Saddam's removal:

"well, ain't they all Muslims?"

This is a fact
 
2014-06-17 05:06:58 PM  
Fox News praises the Nazis for their commitment to diversity.
 
2014-06-17 05:07:39 PM  
Fox News praises the Empire for its new stormtrooper training regimen.
 
2014-06-17 05:08:18 PM  
Fox News praises Tea Partiers' grasp of logic and perfect spelling.
 
2014-06-17 05:08:32 PM  
Fox news praises Joseph Mengele for his contributions to medicine.
 
2014-06-17 05:09:11 PM  
Fox News praises Joan Rivers' subtle use of plastic surgery and cosmetics to look decades younger than her true age and alive.
 
2014-06-17 05:10:07 PM  
Fox News praises Craig T. Nelson for getting by on welfare and food stamps without any help from the government.
 
2014-06-17 05:10:19 PM  
Daily Show writers, go ahead and take the afternoon off.
 
2014-06-17 05:10:31 PM  
Fox News praises George W. Bush for realizing that My Pet Goat would take a long time to read
 
2014-06-17 05:11:09 PM  
Fox News praises Roman senators for restoring the Republic
 
2014-06-17 05:12:05 PM  
Fox News praises Bristol Palin's successful application of "abstinence only" principles.
 
2014-06-17 05:12:51 PM  
Fox News praises the Tea Party for wanting to keep the Government out of their Medicare.
 
2014-06-17 05:12:58 PM  
Fox News praises Mama Cass for her commitment to healthy eating and fitness.
 
2014-06-17 05:13:03 PM  
Fox News Praises Emperor Palpatine for His Dedication to Democracy
 
2014-06-17 05:13:06 PM  
Fox News praises SlothB for making informed, pertinent comments in a political thread.
 
2014-06-17 05:14:14 PM  
Fox News praises Cliven Bundy for his superior knowledge of "the negro"
 
2014-06-17 05:14:28 PM  
Fox News Praises GM's design oversight team.
 
2014-06-17 05:14:48 PM  
This thread is gonna have smart / funny votes as long as the thread.
 
2014-06-17 05:16:28 PM  
Fox News praises Newt Gingrich's fidelity.
 
2014-06-17 05:18:19 PM  

Thunderpipes: Bush was right, Fark was wrong. News at 11:00.

But heh, at least we have every western person in Iraq scrambling to evacuate out of fear under Obama's reign.

Obama is stronk. Not.


Do you ever read your posts and think "Maybe I'm stupid..."?
 
2014-06-17 05:18:50 PM  
Fox News Praises Somalia on Expanding Personal Freedoms and Reducing Government Overreach.
 
2014-06-17 05:19:31 PM  

Craptastic: Do you ever read your posts and think "Maybe I'm stupid..."?


Don't be so hard on him.  He actually not only believes every word he says, he's waiting for Rush Limbaugh to call him up and take his job over when he retires.
 
2014-06-17 05:19:35 PM  
Fox News praises Harry Carry for his ability to call games and get wasted at the same time.
 
2014-06-17 05:19:50 PM  
Fox News praises Harlem residents for ordering iced tea in a civil, non-motherfarking manner.
 
2014-06-17 05:20:10 PM  
Fox News Praises Pedophiles for keeping the dream alive.
 
2014-06-17 05:20:17 PM  
Fox News praise Obama for his outstanding health care
 
2014-06-17 05:21:18 PM  
Fox News praises Carrot Top for his understated humor
 
2014-06-17 05:21:27 PM  
Fox News praises Fox News on efforts to change genre of Idiocracy from "comedy" to "documentary".
 
2014-06-17 05:21:49 PM  
Geotpf:
So far Obama hasn't attacked anybody, despite calls to do so by John McCain and other Republicans.

Fox News Praises John McCain's Commitment to Peaceful Resolution of Foreign Policy Disputes.
 
2014-06-17 05:22:07 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: Fox News praise Obama for his outstanding health care


Obama provided no health care.  He created a government agency that pimps for insurance companies.  And Bush was still a coke addled goink.  Welcome to politics in America.
 
2014-06-17 05:24:07 PM  

Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.


She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

cdn4.list25.com
 
2014-06-17 05:24:22 PM  

patrick767: Geotpf:
So far Obama hasn't attacked anybody, despite calls to do so by John McCain and other Republicans.

Fox News Praises John McCain's Commitment to Peaceful Resolution of Foreign Policy Disputes.


Fox News Praises John McCain's Skill as a Pilot.
 
2014-06-17 05:24:47 PM  
Fox News Praises Harry Whittington for Apologizing after Getting Shot in the Face Instead of Demanding an Apology.
 
2014-06-17 05:25:46 PM  
Fox News praises Michele Bachmann for her profound grasp of human sensuality.
 
2014-06-17 05:25:50 PM  

bunner: dolphinsgonwild: Fox News praise Obama for his outstanding health care

Obama provided no health care.  He created a government agency that pimps for insurance companies.  And Bush was still a coke addled goink.  Welcome to politics in America.


Aww, let him go man, it's cute when they try.
 
2014-06-17 05:26:25 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]


This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.
 
2014-06-17 05:26:32 PM  

bunner: The best thing about these threads is that nobody has learned from the ostensibly ground breaking presidency of Barack Obama, black guy, that it don't matter if a stick of butter is president, and it hasn't since 1980.  The president's job is to hold the goose while the grease goes through it and be the public opinion dartboard.


No.  It most certainly does matter who is President.

If Obama had lost to McCain, President Palin would have started World War III by dropping nukes on somebody, probably somebody who was our ally.  (McCain would have died of a heart attack within two years of taking office.)
 
2014-06-17 05:26:33 PM  
Fox News praises Marcus Bachmann for his rugged masculinity.
 
2014-06-17 05:26:47 PM  

bunner: Obama provided no health care.


Were you expecting him to? The ACA isn't health care, nor was it intended to be.
 
2014-06-17 05:26:47 PM  
Fox News Praises Roy Horn's Ability to Handle White Tigers.
 
2014-06-17 05:26:56 PM  
Faux News praises Donald Trump for his humility.

They also praise Donald Sterling for his minority outreach.
 
2014-06-17 05:27:33 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: FOX News Praises McDonald's Ability to Provide Healthful Food in Sensible Portions

Regulate Beverage Temperature.
 
2014-06-17 05:27:38 PM  

AkaDad: Fox News praises Newt Gingrich's fidelity.


Unlike other republicans... he did cheat with a woman. Maybe that's what is praise-worthy to them.
 
2014-06-17 05:27:55 PM  
Fox News praises Marcus Bachmann for taking care of his beard.
 
2014-06-17 05:28:06 PM  

Geotpf: No.  It most certainly does matter who is President.

If Obama had lost to McCain, President Palin would have started World War III by dropping nukes on somebody, probably somebody who was our ally.  (McCain would have died of a heart attack within two years of taking office.)


So, we're pretty much stuck with degrees of useless and dangerous?  Sounds broked to me.
 
2014-06-17 05:28:09 PM  
So, is this the thread where we bash Bush for being an idiot, or bash Bush for being an evil mastermind?
 
2014-06-17 05:28:36 PM  

Supadope: Fox News praises Michele Bachmann for her profound grasp of human sensuality.


Sexuality not sensuality.

/stupid auto correct
 
2014-06-17 05:28:45 PM  

The Why Not Guy: bunner: Obama provided no health care.

Were you expecting him to? The ACA isn't health care, nor was it intended to be.


It is for the poor, but not for most of the USA.
 
2014-06-17 05:29:41 PM  
Fox News praises Boko Haram for its efforts to empower young women.
 
2014-06-17 05:29:46 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-06-17 05:30:52 PM  
Fox News Praises Gen. Arnold's Leadership and Loyalty to the Patriot Cause
 
2014-06-17 05:31:04 PM  

Mouser: So, is this the thread where we bash Bush for being an idiot, or bash Bush for being an evil mastermind?


No.
 
2014-06-17 05:31:30 PM  

Supadope: Supadope: Fox News praises Michele Bachmann for her profound grasp of human sensuality.

Sexuality not sensuality.

/stupid auto correct


I'll accept both words.

hometownsource.com
media.salon.com
 
2014-06-17 05:31:30 PM  
Fox News praises Elmer Fudd for his rabbit-killing prowess.
 
2014-06-17 05:32:08 PM  
Fox News praises Joe the Plumber for making a significant contribution to the political discourse in America.
 
2014-06-17 05:32:37 PM  

DrBenway: Fox News praises Boko Haram for its efforts to empower young women.


Don't forget the boys the group killed in February.  Fox News would point out their dedication to educating every young person.
 
2014-06-17 05:32:42 PM  
Fox News praises Mathew Broderick on his horse training skills
 
2014-06-17 05:32:43 PM  
Fox News praises Alberto Gonzales for his ability to recall.
 
2014-06-17 05:32:54 PM  
Fox News praises police on their creative use of food products.

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-17 05:33:05 PM  
Fox News praises Josef Fritzl for his family values and self-made basement architecture designs.
 
2014-06-17 05:34:25 PM  
Fox News praises social conservatives for sticking to their core beliefs when re-electing sexual deviants.
 
2014-06-17 05:34:59 PM  
Fox News praises Mitt Romney for his consistency and honesty.
 
2014-06-17 05:35:07 PM  

Mouser: So, is this the thread where we bash Bush for being an idiot, or bash Bush for being an evil mastermind?



Wait, who ever said Bush was a mastermind?
 
2014-06-17 05:35:32 PM  
Did George Bush anticipate these problems when he signed an agreement with the Iraq government in 2008 which called for the removal of all US troops from Iraq by the end of 2011? Hmm

Yesterday John Stewart called out the media for seeking the "wisdom" of the same idiots that advocated for the Iraq war in the first place. These people have zero credibility whatsoever since they were completely and utterly wrong about this war. If they say one thing, then you would be safe to believe the opposite.

It's absolutely mind boggling why people are even listening to these idiots like they know what the fark they are talking about. For instance, if it was up to McCain the U.S. would have become involved in Libya, Syria, Georgia, Ukraine and now, once again, Iraq and the U.S. would have had

The same goes for Bush. If he could really anticipates problems with Iraq then he wouldn't have pushed for that stupid, pointless farking war in the first place.

The US needs to stay the fark out of this mess. Learn your lesson, stop interfering militarily with other countries, it isn't worth the cost.
 
2014-06-17 05:35:57 PM  
If Bush knew what was going to happen all along, why did he invade in the first place?
Yeah, I know. Dumb question.
 
2014-06-17 05:36:28 PM  

bunner: Geotpf: No.  It most certainly does matter who is President.

If Obama had lost to McCain, President Palin would have started World War III by dropping nukes on somebody, probably somebody who was our ally.  (McCain would have died of a heart attack within two years of taking office.)

So, we're pretty much stuck with degrees of useless and dangerous?  Sounds broked to me.


Well, I was merely pointing out only the most serious consequence of electing a Republican.  Obama has done nothing that I would consider "useless and dangerous"; both McCain/Palin and Romney would have done plenty in that category.

As for passing legislation, well, you need both Congress and the President to work together on that one, and the House is controlled by Republicans.
 
2014-06-17 05:37:45 PM  
Fox News praises Joe Francis for his respectful portrayals of women on film.
 
2014-06-17 05:37:55 PM  

Mouser: So, is this the thread where we bash Bush for being an idiot, or bash Bush for being an evil mastermind?


We were done commenting in the thread where 'we' bashed Obama for being incompetent, or bashed him for being an evil genius. We thought we'd switch it up a bit.
 
2014-06-17 05:38:28 PM  
Fox News Praises Mitt Romney for his emotional expressiveness.
 
2014-06-17 05:38:38 PM  
Fox News praises Rio de Janeiro for beating out Chicago's bid to host the Olympics.
 
2014-06-17 05:39:20 PM  
Fox News praises Mitt Romney for his warmth and humanity.

Oh wait, they probably did.

Fox News praises Tia Tequila for her ladylike modesty.
 
2014-06-17 05:39:44 PM  

jso2897: If Bush knew what was going to happen all along, why did he invade in the first place?
Yeah, I know. Dumb question.


You think that's dumb, wait til someone gives you the answer.
 
2014-06-17 05:39:46 PM  

bunner: Geotpf: No.  It most certainly does matter who is President.

If Obama had lost to McCain, President Palin would have started World War III by dropping nukes on somebody, probably somebody who was our ally.  (McCain would have died of a heart attack within two years of taking office.)

So, we're pretty much stuck with degrees of useless and dangerous?  Sounds broked to me.


Well, we could try electing somebody who is at least a little to the left of Ronald Reagan. Maybe it's just the politics of the Right that are broke. Won't know until we try, will we?
 
2014-06-17 05:40:59 PM  
Fox News praises Kirk Cameron for his grasp of banana physiology.
 
2014-06-17 05:41:06 PM  
Fox News praises Roman Polanski for his babysitting skills.
 
2014-06-17 05:41:11 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: Fox News Praises Mitt Romney for his emotional expressiveness.


Jinx!
 
2014-06-17 05:41:22 PM  
Fox News praises Larry Craig and George Michael for their restroom etiquette.
 
2014-06-17 05:42:30 PM  

freetomato: UncomfortableSilence: Fox News Praises Mitt Romney for his emotional expressiveness.

Jinx!


So I guess I owe you a Koch
 
2014-06-17 05:43:02 PM  
Fox News praises Rosie O'Donnell for her ladylike demeanor.
 
2014-06-17 05:43:17 PM  
Fox News praises Gene Parmesan for being the best.
 
2014-06-17 05:43:20 PM  

Diogenes: svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?

So you're refocusing us by pointing a finger at Obama?  I'm really not following your post at all.

If you think Obama is relevant to the ongoing unraveling of Iraq at this point you're really deluding yourself.

There would have been a strong possibility of this happening even if we had fully committed ourselves to Operation Enduring Occupation.  Regardless of who sits in the White House.


I am refocusing by pointing out IRAN's role in forcing Obama's hand. They threaten involvement, which caused Obama to rethink his initial impulse to stay out and blame Bush. Obama changed his mind and then said he "would consider all options" (while he sent in Aircraft carriers). He wanted to do nothing, but the specter of Iranian action caused his reversal. Now Iran can sit back and laugh while Obama does their dirty work against ISIS. Does this clarify it for you or are you still confused? Are you one of those who doesn't know the difference between Iran and Iraq? Let me spell it out for you again... Obama is motivated by protecting OIL interests in the region and he is being played for a fool by the Iranians.
 
2014-06-17 05:43:22 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: Fox News praises Larry Craig and George Michael for their restroom etiquette.


Please tell me it's not based on a single incident involving them both - I can't have that picture in my head.
Woops.
Too late.:(
 
2014-06-17 05:43:26 PM  
but of course they did
 
2014-06-17 05:45:43 PM  
Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea
 
2014-06-17 05:46:35 PM  
Fox News praises actor Phillip Semour Hoffman for his renewed commitment to sobriety.
 
2014-06-17 05:46:41 PM  

Geotpf: bunner: Geotpf: No.  It most certainly does matter who is President.

If Obama had lost to McCain, President Palin would have started World War III by dropping nukes on somebody, probably somebody who was our ally.  (McCain would have died of a heart attack within two years of taking office.)

So, we're pretty much stuck with degrees of useless and dangerous?  Sounds broked to me.

Well, I was merely pointing out only the most serious consequence of electing a Republican.  Obama has done nothing that I would consider "useless and dangerous"; both McCain/Palin and Romney would have done plenty in that category.

As for passing legislation, well, you need both Congress and the President to work together on that one, and the House is controlled by Republicans.


I get that and I cannot refute the essential, de facto mechanics of what might have been.  I just think the whole process is a dog and pony show starring two pre-purchased sock puppets on either hand of the corporate leviathan.  So, we probably wont see eye to eye as to what makes for a viable solution.
 
2014-06-17 05:47:20 PM  
It's easy to anticipate problems when you're deliberately creating them.
 
2014-06-17 05:47:35 PM  
Fox News praises Bud Dwyer for his decisiveness
 
2014-06-17 05:48:28 PM  
Fox News praises Texas Governor Rick Perry for his scientific approach to influencing weather patterns.
 
2014-06-17 05:48:35 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Fox News praises Bud Dwyer for his decisiveness

keeping his head together during a scandal.
 
2014-06-17 05:49:07 PM  
Fox News Praises Watson for Deducing the Bloody Obvious
 
2014-06-17 05:49:30 PM  

Mouser: So, is this the thread where we bash Bush for being an idiot, or bash Bush for being an evil mastermind?


No one ever called Bush a mastermind.
 
2014-06-17 05:49:38 PM  
Fox News praises Sarah Palin for her stick-to-it-iveness as Governor of Alaska.
 
2014-06-17 05:49:48 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.
 
2014-06-17 05:50:17 PM  
Fox News praises one of their newscasters for br.... which one? The blonde one, I think.
 
2014-06-17 05:50:39 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


Fox News praises you..for whatever it was you were trying to do there.
 
2014-06-17 05:51:23 PM  
Fox News praises SNL's Fox & Friends parody for making them look good by comparison.
 
2014-06-17 05:52:14 PM  
Fox News praises Tatterdemalian for being in the bunghole
 
2014-06-17 05:52:14 PM  
Fox News praises Aliens: Colonial Marines for its intelligent AI and graphical fidelity.
 
2014-06-17 05:52:21 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of CrimeaTh


Just like that idiot Dulles didn't keep the communists out of Vietnam.
 
2014-06-17 05:52:46 PM  
Fox News praises Ken Hamm for his commitment to scientific accuracy.
 
2014-06-17 05:53:57 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


Oh, you're serious.

Let me laugh even harder.
 
2014-06-17 05:54:36 PM  
Faux News praises Jenny McCarthy on her assistance in eliminating diseases.
 
2014-06-17 05:54:57 PM  
Neither party is going to save you, me or us because neither party has in any interest in saving anything, nor do they work for anybody who does.
 
2014-06-17 05:55:56 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.


I hope you're pretty, because your brains aren't going to get you anywhere.
 
2014-06-17 05:56:17 PM  
Fox News praises Larry Craig on his stance concerning men's room etiquette.
 
2014-06-17 05:57:14 PM  
Fox news praises blogspot for its contributions to incisive, kitchen table journalism.
 
2014-06-17 05:57:48 PM  

gimmegimme: trappedspirit: Mikey1969: This is kind of like the arsonist telling the fire crew that the fire might flare up again if they don't get all of the hot spots as he hops in his car and bails...

Plus the firefighters leaving a smoking, smoldering heap and saying "Were done" and heading home

Especially if the firefighters are the one who started the blaze in the first place.


i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-17 05:59:00 PM  
Fox News praises Bill O'Reilly for his ability to explain elementary cosmology.
 
2014-06-17 06:01:08 PM  

svanmeter: Diogenes: svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?

So you're refocusing us by pointing a finger at Obama?  I'm really not following your post at all.

If you think Obama is relevant to the ongoing unraveling of Iraq at this point you're really deluding yourself.

There would have been a strong possibility of this happening even if we had fully committed ourselves to Operation Enduring Occupation.  Regardless of who sits in the White House.

I am refocusing by pointing out IRAN's role in forcing Obama's hand. They threaten involvement, which caused Obama to rethink his initial impulse to stay out and blame Bush. Obama changed his mind and then said he "would consider all options" (while he sent in Aircraft carriers). He wanted to do nothing, but the specter of Iranian action caused his reversal. Now Iran can sit back and laugh while Obama does their dirty work against ISIS. Does this clarify it for you or are you still confused? Are you one of those who doesn't know the difference between Iran and Iraq? Let me spell it out for you again... Obama is motivated by protecting OIL interests in the region and he is being played for a fool by the Iranians.


You do know that Iran has had the Iraqi government in the palm of their hand since, about, oh, March 3, 2008?  Whether we do something or nothing in regards to the ISIS, Iraq will still be a client state to the Iranians, no action on our part changes this.  And the fact that Iraq would become an Iranian client state was a foregone conclusion as soon as we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam, which many Leftist critics of the Iraqi war pointed out before the war occurred.

The only question now informing the president is whether we wish to allow ISIS to fester in their little bulwark of Iraq potentially resulting in attacks on American interests at home or abroad as they slaughter Iraqis indiscriminately or we take action to hinder their ability to project their force, possible in our direction, by droning and cruise missilling them to hell. As for me, I only wish that if we do decide to play it safe and attack with drones and cruise missiles in order to prevent ISIS from becoming a threat akin to al Qaeda proper, that the Iraqi government will pay for it.
 
2014-06-17 06:01:30 PM  
Politics in American has largely come down to two given, opposing "pundits" getting shirty with each other on news shows.  Have they managed to solve anything or just keep us pissing venom at "the other guys"?
 
2014-06-17 06:01:55 PM  
Fox News praises Halliburton for its ability to win trillion dollar, no-bid, government contracts.
 
2014-06-17 06:02:11 PM  
Fox News praises Paris Hilton for her contributions to society.
 
2014-06-17 06:03:00 PM  
Well, you know how white racists are - they love to biatch and moan that the lazy black janitor is doing a slow, sloppy job of cleaning up the mess their rich, white, fratboy buddy actually made.
 
2014-06-17 06:03:33 PM  
Look, he had access to the time machine too.  He just used it...dumber.
 
2014-06-17 06:06:01 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.


Fox News praises Tatterdemalian for conveniently forgetting that Bush invaded Iraq and removed the person that effectively prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq for 24 years.
 
2014-06-17 06:09:42 PM  
Call me when we have grown men and women with access to a global post it note board who aren't saying things like "dumbya" and "odumber" and waiting for it to change things.  Peace out, girl scout.
 
2014-06-17 06:12:43 PM  
"If they only had Jesus, this wouldn't be an issue." -- that blonde harpy on the Fox News morning show regarding the Egyptian uprising a few years ago.

That's when they quit being the background noise station for me.
 
2014-06-17 06:18:24 PM  

Lord_Baull: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

Fox News praises Tatterdemalian for conveniently forgetting that Bush invaded Iraq and removed the person that effectively prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq for 24 years.


Fox News Further Praises  Tatterdemalian for conveniently forgetting that the invaders now in Iraq - aka ISIS - were created in response to the American invasion and occupation.
 
2014-06-17 06:18:49 PM  
Fox News praises its own shiat for not stinking.
 
2014-06-17 06:27:12 PM  
i.imgur.com

This was over 10 years ago.

Brace yourselves, America.

Those boys are now men.
 
2014-06-17 06:28:46 PM  

RyogaM: svanmeter: Diogenes: svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?

So you're refocusing us by pointing a finger at Obama?  I'm really not following your post at all.

If you think Obama is relevant to the ongoing unraveling of Iraq at this point you're really deluding yourself.

There would have been a strong possibility of this happening even if we had fully committed ourselves to Operation Enduring Occupation.  Regardless of who sits in the White House.

I am refocusing by pointing out IRAN's role in forcing Obama's hand. They threaten involvement, which caused Obama to rethink his initial impulse to stay out and blame Bush. Obama changed his mind and then said he "would consider all options" (while he sent in Aircraft carriers). He wanted to do nothing, but the specter of Iranian action caused his reversal. Now Iran can sit back and laugh while Obama does their dirty work against ISIS. Does this clarify it for you or are you still confused? Are you one of those who doesn't know the difference between Iran and Iraq? Let me spell it out for you again... Obama is motivated by protecting OIL interests in the region and he is being played for a fool by the Iranians.

You do know that Iran has had the Iraqi government in the palm of their hand since, about, oh, March 3, 2008?  Whether we do something or nothing in regards to the ISIS, Iraq will still be a client state to the Iranians, no action on our part changes this.  And the fact that Iraq would become an Iranian client state was a foregone conclusion as soon as we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam, which many Leftist critics of the Iraqi war pointed out before the war occurred.

The only question now informing the president is whether we wish to allow ISIS to fester in their little bulwark of Iraq potentially resulting in attacks on American interests at home or abroad as they slaughter Iraqis indiscriminately or we take action to hinder their ability to project their force, possible in our direction, by droning and cruise missilling them to hell. As for me, I only wish that if we do decide to play it safe and attack with drones and cruise missiles in order to prevent ISIS from becoming a threat akin to al Qaeda proper, that the Iraqi government will pay for it.


I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-militan ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=
 
2014-06-17 06:29:56 PM  
Fox News praises Oscar Pistorius on his ability to protect his girlfriend from intruders.
 
2014-06-17 06:33:14 PM  
Fox News praises John Wayne Gacy on the joy he brought to children as a clown.
 
2014-06-17 06:36:24 PM  

jso2897: bunner: Geotpf: No.  It most certainly does matter who is President.

If Obama had lost to McCain, President Palin would have started World War III by dropping nukes on somebody, probably somebody who was our ally.  (McCain would have died of a heart attack within two years of taking office.)

So, we're pretty much stuck with degrees of useless and dangerous?  Sounds broked to me.

Well, we could try electing somebody who is at least a little to the left of Ronald Reagan. Maybe it's just the politics of the Right that are broke. Won't know until we try, will we?


Yup.  Reagan is so much to the left of Obama he praised the aircraft controller union and endorsed gay marriage.  Or the exact opposite of that, I forget which.
 
2014-06-17 06:36:34 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


Wait, what? Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq? Are you farking kidding me?

I'm pretty sure if the US never invaded Iraq this current invasion never would have happened since Saddam still would have been firmly in power. He may have been a tyrant but at least he brought stability to the region. Once this is over I'm sure many will be pining for the devil we knew as opposed to the devil that is only now coming to light. This mess started with the Iraq War that Bush advocated so hard for, don't try and deny it.
 
2014-06-17 06:38:23 PM  
Tatterdemalian://ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


You are working on the incorrect theory that Islamic terrorists or Putin would do anything different if we had a different President (from any party).
 
2014-06-17 06:38:37 PM  
"Think Progress"

c2.staticflickr.com
 
2014-06-17 06:43:26 PM  

GIVE THANKS TO BIG BROTHER!

HE KEPT US OUT OF THE WAR.

 
2014-06-17 06:51:12 PM  
Fox News praises Jim Jones for his ability to make great Kool-aid.
 
2014-06-17 06:57:43 PM  
Fox News praises Justin Bieber for having amazing singing talent.
 
2014-06-17 07:00:27 PM  

svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.


No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.
 
2014-06-17 07:00:33 PM  

blatz514: ox45tallboy: Fox News praises Lorena Bobbitt's problem-solving abilities.

Tons of good ones here, but you get this...

[www.phlashers.com image 400x250]


I appreciate that, but this one really made me laugh:

Diogenes: Fox News Praises Rand Paul on his Recycling Program

 
2014-06-17 07:06:34 PM  

bunner: Neither party is going to save you, me or us because neither party has in any interest in saving anything, nor do they work for anybody who does.


Ooh ooh is this another thread where you fail to get anyone to believe that both sides are the same, and bought (or not bought, depending on the post) by corporations?
 
2014-06-17 07:08:17 PM  

fartacus: "Think Progress"

[c2.staticflickr.com image 250x272]


Wouldn't want facts to intrude upon your worldview.
 
2014-06-17 07:11:02 PM  
FOX News praises FOX News on FOX News' praising of FOX News praising...
 
2014-06-17 07:11:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: bunner: Neither party is going to save you, me or us because neither party has in any interest in saving anything, nor do they work for anybody who does.

Ooh ooh is this another thread where you fail to get anyone to believe that both sides are the same, and bought (or not bought, depending on the post) by corporations?


I feel for the poor guy. Despair is a sorrowful mistress.
She's kinda fat, and ugly, too.
 
2014-06-17 07:13:11 PM  
Fox News praises Fark.com's readers for posting original, cogent remarks then moving on.
 
2014-06-17 07:18:19 PM  
got to re-write history somehow I suppose
 
2014-06-17 07:37:31 PM  

fartacus: "Think Progress"

[c2.staticflickr.com image 250x272]


I thought you stopped reading in the third grade.
 
2014-06-17 07:40:44 PM  

RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.


Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely with ObamaDrones, but now he has sent in the first troops.

He said he wouldn't get involved, then he changed course and sent aircraft carriers. He said he wouldn't send in ground troops but now he has.

Why the change?

OIL, OIL, OIL

Iran threatened to get involved and he couldn't allow their influence to cross the Iraqi border... Sooo he gets involved. Now he's Iran's fool.

You claim he's protecting US interests, but if that was the case he wouldn't have pulled out.

Now he looks worse than Bush, because his motive$ are even less pure: OIL, OIL, OIL
 
2014-06-17 08:00:37 PM  
Fox Praises Brownie for Doing a Heck of a Job.
 
2014-06-17 08:18:37 PM  
Faux News praises James O'Keefe for his honesty and fairness in journalism.
 
2014-06-17 08:20:20 PM  

tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.


You obviously DNRTFA.  You claim "Bush was a frickin' psychic" because he predicted that their would be increased violence and instability in Iraq if US troops were withdrawn and after that psychic insight he signed an agreement that legally bound the US to withdraw its troops.  If Bush was indeed psychic- then his agreement to withdraw troops borders on treason.
 
2014-06-17 08:29:56 PM  

stan unusual: tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.

You obviously DNRTFA.  You claim "Bush was a frickin' psychic" because he predicted that their would be increased violence and instability in Iraq if US troops were withdrawn and after that psychic insight he signed an agreement that legally bound the US to withdraw its troops.  If Bush was indeed psychic- then his agreement to withdraw troops borders on treason.


Ask Valerie Plame about treasonous acts under Bush.
 
2014-06-17 08:38:34 PM  

tbeatty: Well, compared to what we have now, Bush was frickin' psychic (okay, he only has to be reasonably competent to outpace this administration).  Bush looks better and better everyday Obama is president.  Yesterday, half the apologists for Obama claimed no one could have seen this coming when he pulled troops out and the other half said it's obvious that the absence of Saddam left a huge power vacuum that would lead to this.   Somehow "unpredictably obvious" is something Joe Biden or John Kerry might say as a legitimate response to incompetence.


Republicans made a farking mess.  STFU while adults are cleaning it up.
 
2014-06-17 08:45:42 PM  
If you want the news, watch Fox News. If you're interested in barry's golf score, watch the other 3 networks. According to them, obama is doing a super job as President, nothing to see here, just move along.

Apparently, hard hitting journalism at abc, cbs and the presidents propaganda ministry nbc, means asking the White House what they should report on.
 
2014-06-17 08:48:51 PM  

Launch Code: If you want the news, watch Fox News. If you're interested in barry's golf score, watch the other 3 networks. According to them, obama is doing a super job as President, nothing to see here, just move along.

Apparently, hard hitting journalism at abc, cbs and the presidents propaganda ministry nbc, means asking the White House what they should report on.


img.fark.net
 
2014-06-17 08:55:59 PM  

svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.

Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely wit ...


The Peshmerga have seized a key northern area of oil production and transport and Obama hasn't said anything at all about rolling that back and won't- it gives the Kurds a more defensible border, preserves their autonomy, and grants a de facto share of the oil wealth that al Maliki and his allies agreed to share with them (just as they agreed to share with the Sunni tribes of the Sunni Awakening too) promises his government has largely reneged on.  Bush knew what a duplicitous character al Maliki was and how beholden he was to Iran long ago.  He gave Ahmadinejad  a royal welcome at the same time he was poking Bush in the eye over negotiations over power sharing, autonomy and federalism with the Sunnis and Kurds.  al Maliki is the one responsible for the mess Iraq finds itself in now, but like the little kid in the old shake and bake commercial W can proudly exclaim "and I helpt!"   http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/02/iraq.ahmadinejad/index.html

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.
 
2014-06-17 08:58:21 PM  

Launch Code: If you want the news, watch Fox News. If you're interested in barry's golf score, watch the other 3 networks. According to them, obama is doing a super job as President, nothing to see here, just move along.

Apparently, hard hitting journalism at abc, cbs and the presidents propaganda ministry nbc, means asking the White House what they should report on.


Eh. I give it three out of ten idiots.
 
2014-06-17 09:00:03 PM  

stan unusual: The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.


Logic won't work on idiots like that.
 
2014-06-17 09:09:04 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Launch Code: If you want the news, watch Fox News. If you're interested in barry's golf score, watch the other 3 networks. According to them, obama is doing a super job as President, nothing to see here, just move along.

Apparently, hard hitting journalism at abc, cbs and the presidents propaganda ministry nbc, means asking the White House what they should report on.

Eh. I give it three out of ten idiots.


*shrug* . Five potato.
 
2014-06-17 09:10:45 PM  
This is a great time to be a hajib maker in Iraq.  Lousy time to be a razor blade salesman.
 
2014-06-17 09:14:01 PM  

Launch Code: If you want the news, watch Fox News. If you're interested in barry's golf score, watch the other 3 networks. According to them, obama is doing a super job as President, nothing to see here, just move along.

Apparently, hard hitting journalism at abc, cbs and the presidents propaganda ministry nbc, means asking the White House what they should report on.


Launch Code Praises Failure And Calls Success In The Markets, Employment Rate, Killing Bin Laden In A Place They Wouldn't Touch, Not Having Thousands Of Americans Dying And Other Things In Reality "Propaganda"
 
2014-06-17 09:24:38 PM  

BKITU: Epic Fap Session: Fox News praises Bud Dwyer for his decisiveness keeping his head together during a scandal.


Nice!
 
2014-06-17 09:25:55 PM  

svanmeter: Diogenes: svanmeter: All the finger pointing at this point amounts to taking your eye off the ball. The true question here is Obama acting to protect OIL interest$, or is he being played for a fool by the Iranians to attack their Sunni enemies for them?

So you're refocusing us by pointing a finger at Obama?  I'm really not following your post at all.

If you think Obama is relevant to the ongoing unraveling of Iraq at this point you're really deluding yourself.

There would have been a strong possibility of this happening even if we had fully committed ourselves to Operation Enduring Occupation.  Regardless of who sits in the White House.

I am refocusing by pointing out IRAN's role in forcing Obama's hand. They threaten involvement, which caused Obama to rethink his initial impulse to stay out and blame Bush. Obama changed his mind and then said he "would consider all options" (while he sent in Aircraft carriers). He wanted to do nothing, but the specter of Iranian action caused his reversal. Now Iran can sit back and laugh while Obama does their dirty work against ISIS. Does this clarify it for you or are you still confused? Are you one of those who doesn't know the difference between Iran and Iraq? Let me spell it out for you again... Obama is motivated by protecting OIL interests in the region and he is being played for a fool by the Iranians.


Its always been about oil interests. You aren't sharing anything that is new or shocking to us.
 
2014-06-17 09:28:22 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.

If you're going to lie, can you at least make it sound believable?
 
2014-06-17 09:29:35 PM  

stan unusual: svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.

Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely wit ...

The Peshmerga have seized a key northern area of oil production and transport and Obama hasn't said anything at all about rolling that back and won't- it gives the Kurds a more defensible border, preserves their autonomy, and grants a de facto share of the oil wealth that al Maliki and his allies agreed to share with them (just as they agreed to share with the Sunni tribes of the Sunni Awakening too) promises his government has largely reneged on.  Bush knew what a duplicitous character al Maliki was and how beholden he was to Iran long ago.  He gave Ahmadinejad  a royal welcome at the same time he was poking Bush in the eye over negotiations over power sharing, autonomy and federalism with the Sunnis and Kurds.  al Maliki is the one responsible for the mess Iraq finds itself in now, but like the little kid in the old shake and bake commercial W can proudly exclaim "and I helpt!"   http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/02/iraq.ahmadinejad/index.html

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.


The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

/Obama should hand back his Nobel Peace Prize.

You seem fairly well informed. I'll give you the last word.
 
2014-06-17 09:30:19 PM  
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2014-06-17 09:34:58 PM  
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2014-06-17 09:35:42 PM  
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2014-06-17 09:46:38 PM  
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2014-06-17 09:51:04 PM  

svanmeter: The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.


Realizing "Hmm...maybe my gut reaction isn't the best." seems like a sign of a good leader to me, unlike...say...signing a pledge to not raise the debt ceiling no matter what.

Am I happy that military action is being pondered in favor of a country that can only barely be called an "ally" in any sense of the word?  No.  However, the fact that our interests and Iran's might line up in favor of us taking that action does not mean they're cracking the whip on us, it means we're probably going to do something we don't want to do but need to, and they'll happen to benefit from it too.
 
2014-06-17 09:51:46 PM  
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/actually, they probably would do that.
 
2014-06-17 09:55:30 PM  

svanmeter: Now he looks worse than Bush, because his motive$ are even less pure: OIL, OIL, OIL


Oh look, somebody who actually believed Bush's contrived BS reasons.

When the US does anything in the middle east it's always about oil.
 
2014-06-17 09:56:23 PM  
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2014-06-17 10:00:48 PM  

Arumat: svanmeter: The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

Realizing "Hmm...maybe my gut reaction isn't the best." seems like a sign of a good leader to me, unlike...say...signing a pledge to not raise the debt ceiling no matter what.

Am I happy that military action is being pondered in favor of a country that can only barely be called an "ally" in any sense of the word?  No.  However, the fact that our interests and Iran's might line up in favor of us taking that action does not mean they're cracking the whip on us, it means we're probably going to do something we don't want to do but need to, and they'll happen to benefit from it too.


I'm glad as FARK that my husband is on the down side of being medically retired. He was deployed more than home the last 10 years with the JSTARS. The war mongerers are welcome to volunteer to serve or offer their children up to serve. Those that have actually done it the last decade are worn plumb out.
 
2014-06-17 10:13:01 PM  

freetomato: I'm glad as FARK that my husband is on the down side of being medically retired. He was deployed more than home the last 10 years with the JSTARS. The war mongerers are welcome to volunteer to serve or offer their children up to serve. Those that have actually done it the last decade are worn plumb out.


If he was with the JSTARS I might have known him.  I was with the 116th from 2003-2009.
 
2014-06-17 10:14:38 PM  
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2014-06-17 10:22:30 PM  
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2014-06-17 10:48:14 PM  

Arumat: freetomato: I'm glad as FARK that my husband is on the down side of being medically retired. He was deployed more than home the last 10 years with the JSTARS. The war mongerers are welcome to volunteer to serve or offer their children up to serve. Those that have actually done it the last decade are worn plumb out.

If he was with the JSTARS I might have known him.  I was with the 116th from 2003-2009.


Highly likely. He flew his ass off during that time. I was TG in the same unit, and retired in Jan of this year FINALLY thank God. Quite likely we know the same people,
 
2014-06-17 10:55:41 PM  

svanmeter: stan unusual: svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.


<snip>

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

/Obama should hand back his Nobel Peace Prize.

You seem fairly well informed. I'll give you the last word.


We've done the training bit the chances that we'd return to it are slim and none.  I agree with you on Kurdish oil- they will continue to sell it to the West- and events might make Turkey rethink their hostility to the Kurds and conclude it's worth the risk of Kurdish unrest in Turkey to have the de facto Kurdish state as a buffer between them and the Sunni-Shia proxy war to the south.  Obama hasn't committed to the US doing any fighting on behalf of Iran and the shiite faction in Iraq on one hand or the Iraqi Sunni militias backed by the Saudis and their Gulf allies who've entered a marriage of convenience with ISIS on the other.  We'd be hard pressed to use airpower or insert significant numbers of troops on the ground to directly aid any Iranian forces that might try to prop up al Maliki since the bases those strikes would come from and where troops ground troops would stage from are in Sunni gulf states and/or the Kingdom.  The Ayatollahs aren't about to allow the Great Satan any military forces to be stationed on their territory and there's no reason to aid the Sunni militias while they're in bed with ISIS.  The best we can do is try to keep the fighting contained to Syria and Iraq and let Iran, the Kingdom and their allies know that if they're eager for a renewed struggle to declare once and for all what is "the true faith" of Islam they'll have to do it with their own blood and treasure and be prepared for the US and western allies to cry "a pox on both your houses."

I hope I'm right and I hope your son (and everyone else's) isn't thrust into the middle of this thankless mess.
 
2014-06-17 10:55:56 PM  

freetomato: Arumat: freetomato: I'm glad as FARK that my husband is on the down side of being medically retired. He was deployed more than home the last 10 years with the JSTARS. The war mongerers are welcome to volunteer to serve or offer their children up to serve. Those that have actually done it the last decade are worn plumb out.

If he was with the JSTARS I might have known him.  I was with the 116th from 2003-2009.

Highly likely. He flew his ass off during that time. I was TG in the same unit, and retired in Jan of this year FINALLY thank God. Quite likely we know the same people,


Small world, but if he was a flier it would be more likely I'd have run into you.  The only time I saw the fliers in uniform was when I was moving equipment to help get the planes off the ground.
 
2014-06-17 11:05:02 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: Fox News praises bunner's dedication to commenting in this thread, despite bring repeatedly ignored by Farkers.


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2014-06-17 11:08:50 PM  

Arumat: freetomato: Arumat: freetomato: I'm glad as FARK that my husband is on the down side of being medically retired. He was deployed more than home the last 10 years with the JSTARS. The war mongerers are welcome to volunteer to serve or offer their children up to serve. Those that have actually done it the last decade are worn plumb out.

If he was with the JSTARS I might have known him.  I was with the 116th from 2003-2009.

Highly likely. He flew his ass off during that time. I was TG in the same unit, and retired in Jan of this year FINALLY thank God. Quite likely we know the same people,

Small world, but if he was a flier it would be more likely I'd have run into you.  The only time I saw the fliers in uniform was when I was moving equipment to help get the planes off the ground.


If you haven't, join the 116th FB group. Fun and nostalgic.

/might know you
 
2014-06-17 11:13:58 PM  
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2014-06-17 11:17:29 PM  

jso2897: If Bush knew what was going to happen all along, why did he invade in the first place?
Yeah, I know. Dumb question.


granted; we're all working on the assumption that he wanted to avoid these problems...
 
2014-06-17 11:20:57 PM  

svanmeter: stan unusual:

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any.


I could swear there's been an awful lot of biatching and moaning about us not having adequately secured our consulate in Benghazi. Does that ring a bell at all? But here you are saying we shouldn't send any troops to secure the embassy in Baghdad because Obama said he wouldn't send any. That is truly brilliant.
 
2014-06-17 11:31:28 PM  
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2014-06-17 11:44:09 PM  

freetomato: Arumat: freetomato: Arumat: freetomato: I'm glad as FARK that my husband is on the down side of being medically retired. He was deployed more than home the last 10 years with the JSTARS. The war mongerers are welcome to volunteer to serve or offer their children up to serve. Those that have actually done it the last decade are worn plumb out.

If he was with the JSTARS I might have known him.  I was with the 116th from 2003-2009.

Highly likely. He flew his ass off during that time. I was TG in the same unit, and retired in Jan of this year FINALLY thank God. Quite likely we know the same people,

Small world, but if he was a flier it would be more likely I'd have run into you.  The only time I saw the fliers in uniform was when I was moving equipment to help get the planes off the ground.

If you haven't, join the 116th FB group. Fun and nostalgic.

/might know you


Dropped an e-mail to your ultrafark.
 
2014-06-17 11:49:07 PM  

Arumat: svanmeter: The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

Realizing "Hmm...maybe my gut reaction isn't the best." seems like a sign of a good leader to me, unlike...say...signing a pledge to not raise the debt ceiling no matter what.

Am I happy that military action is being pondered in favor of a country that can only barely be called an "ally" in any sense of the word?  No.  However, the fact that our interests and Iran's might line up in favor of us taking that action does not mean they're cracking the whip on us, it means we're probably going to do something we don't want to do but need to, and they'll happen to benefit from it too.


Nah no whip cracking necessary. All Iran needed to do was hint that they would get involved and Obama lurched into action sending aircraft carriers. He can't afford to have the Iranians anywhere near those oil fields. Obama took the bait.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=
 
2014-06-17 11:58:13 PM  

DrBenway: svanmeter: stan unusual:

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any.

I could swear there's been an awful lot of biatching and moaning about us not having adequately secured our consulate in Benghazi. Does that ring a bell at all? But here you are saying we shouldn't send any troops to secure the embassy in Baghdad because Obama said he wouldn't send any. That is truly brilliant.


Nope you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not opposed to protecting our people. I'm opposed to a president who says he won't get involved then he does, only because he doesn't want the Iranians to fill the void:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=

Now he looks like Iran's biatch. I wish he would come clean and confess that all he is interested in are the OIL fields that ISIS would control. He also worries that Iranian involvement would endanger OIL production from those same fields. Violence in the name of OIL is not becoming of a Nobel Prize Winner.
 
2014-06-18 12:05:51 AM  
"From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. We shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life. Not one more dollar, not one more airplane, not one more bullet, not one more Marine, not one more arm or leg or eye. Not one more," he said. "This must end now. Now can't we come together on that?"

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/glenn-beck-iraq-war_n_55054 24 .html
 
2014-06-18 12:14:32 AM  
Puh-leeze, everytime Bush goes to take a leak Fox News drops to their news and starts salivating.
 
2014-06-18 12:15:13 AM  

svanmeter: DrBenway: svanmeter: stan unusual:

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any.


I could swear there's been an awful lot of biatching and moaning about us not having adequately secured our consulate in Benghazi. Does that ring a bell at all? But here you are saying we shouldn't send any troops to secure the embassy in Baghdad because Obama said he wouldn't send any. That is truly brilliant.

Nope you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not opposed to protecting our people. I'm opposed to a president who says he won't get involved then he does, only because he doesn't want the Iranians to fill the void:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=

Now he looks like Iran's biatch. I wish he would come clean and confess that all he is interested in are the OIL fields that ISIS would control. He also worries that Iranian involvement would endanger OIL production from those same fields. Violence in the name of OIL is not becoming of a Nobel Prize Winner.


Oh? I'm only going by your own comments. And in response to someone pointing out the purpose of the forces being sent in, you pretty clearly stated that you didn't care why they were there, and that it was a problem no matter what because he said he wouldn't send any troops.

So now you say you do want him to protect the embassy and US citizens there, just not with any troops? You're not making a whole lot of sense. Or if you are, you're being painfully inconsistent in trying to do so.
 
2014-06-18 12:43:58 AM  
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2014-06-18 12:48:29 AM  
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2014-06-18 12:56:51 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.



Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?
 
2014-06-18 01:01:34 AM  
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2014-06-18 01:10:57 AM  
Well no sh*t, I knew that fifteen minutes after our first guys hit the ground. Does that make me freaking God or something?!

Anyone with half an ounce of brains knew that once we landed in there the power vacuum was going to be such an incredible vortex of suck it was going to turn the country inside out. In fact, IIRC, that was  known quite some time before that. I wonder who that might have been.....

Because if we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq. Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it - eastern Iraq - the Iranians would like to claim, In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq. The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families - it wasn't a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right" --Dick Cheney, 1992
 
2014-06-18 01:11:36 AM  

tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?


Reality is not your forte, is it.
 
2014-06-18 01:23:29 AM  
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2014-06-18 01:30:15 AM  

dascott: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.


Yep... but there are some things worse than war, and Saddam's "peace" wasn't worth the price. Two words: "children's prisons."

"The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter, UN weapon inspector and anti-war activist
 
2014-06-18 01:38:04 AM  
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2014-06-18 01:39:36 AM  
Fox News praises Michael J. Fox's steady hand.

/window seat please
 
2014-06-18 01:48:19 AM  
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2014-06-18 01:52:28 AM  
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2014-06-18 02:03:02 AM  

Tatterdemalian: dascott: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.

Yep... but there are some things worse than war, and Saddam's "peace" wasn't worth the price. Two words: "children's prisons."

"The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter, UN weapon inspector and anti-war activist


Yep. Creating a vacuum which allowed Al Qaeda to establish a foothold in Iraq was soooo much better.
 
2014-06-18 02:26:30 AM  
Fox News praises Republicans for being right yet again on Iraq, from the smoking gun imminent threat mushroom cloud WMDs (we found 'em) to people throwing flowers at our troops in the streets to it taking six months and costing less than sixty billion dollars to "mission accomplished". GOP: right every step of the way!
 
2014-06-18 02:28:43 AM  

Tatterdemalian: dascott: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

You know who else prevented the invasion now roiling in Iraq?

Saddam Hussein.

Yep... but there are some things worse than war, and Saddam's "peace" wasn't worth the price. Two words: "children's prisons."

"The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter, UN weapon inspector and anti-war activist


Iraq is a country that never should have been in the first place.  The borders are unnatural and ignore HUGE historical tribal/cultural and religious divides.   The notion that you can combine factions that have been warring for over a thousand years into a single, unified nation is absolutely ridiculous.  The notion that it can be done without crippling oppression, tyranny and brutality is even more asinine.

Saddam ruled the only way a "country" like Iraq could be ruled.  His reign was disgusting and violated just about every possible interpretation of human rights - but it was the only to keep the population from revolting and returning to their equally brutal thousand year war.

Democracy will NEVER work there because the party voted into power will ALWAYS use the opportunity to issue violent retribution for transgressions dating back to 900AD.   The US is a young country - and as such has no concept of these centuries-long historical grudges or how to end - or even contain them.  When Osama bin Laden published his gripe referencing the Ottoman Empire, Americans collectively shrugged their shoulders.  What we didn't understand is they are fighting wars they didn't start and certainly will not end in their lifetimes.  But they understand this.

There is no political or military solution to end the hate and mistrust these factions have for one another.

If you want Iraq as it currently exists on a map - you're gonna either have never-ending civil war or brutal tyranny.  But if you want anything remotely resembling peace and unity in the region, you're gonna have to let the country split up, allowing borders to form organically.  You can't have it both ways.
 
2014-06-18 02:32:56 AM  
Fox News praises Benny Hinn for his biblical cure for AIDS.
 
2014-06-18 02:42:33 AM  

what_now: Saborlas: There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

So Fox News is sure to run with it!!

And she may not ever have said it, but she certainly did have fake peasant cottage with sheep and cows, where she could go and play with the animals after someone had cleaned them and pretend that she was a simple shepherdess

I imagine the actual peasants- who were starving- weren't thrilled with that.


Fark needs more Marie Antoinnette threads.
 
2014-06-18 03:00:19 AM  

Antonio_Talibanderas: "From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. We shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life. Not one more dollar, not one more airplane, not one more bullet, not one more Marine, not one more arm or leg or eye. Not one more," he said. "This must end now. Now can't we come together on that?"

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/glenn-beck-iraq-war_n_55054 24 .html


Wow. My respect for Beck just went from zero to... nah, it's still zero.
 
2014-06-18 03:05:03 AM  

Antonio_Talibanderas: "From the beginning, most people on the left were against raping and murdering that young girl. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. I shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life."

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14

 
2014-06-18 03:07:39 AM  
Fox News praises Khan for his wise decision to follow the Enterprise into the Mutara Nebula.

/The rest of us are laughing at the "superior intellect."
 
2014-06-18 03:13:13 AM  

HighOnCraic: Antonio_Talibanderas: "From the beginning, most people on the left were against raping and murdering that young girl. I wasn't.... Liberals, you were right. I shouldn't have.  ...  Not one more life. Not one more life."

- Glenn Beck 6/17/14


Ironically, I posted in that original Beck rape/murder thread - but the mods deleted the difficult questions I was asking. When I presented a few possible scenarios of how the rape and murder went down, I was given the banhammer for a few days!    I'm so glad my concern for this crime is no longer a fringe interest worthy of scorn and banishment.  It's been several years and Glenn Beck STILL has not stepped up to answer these serious questions.  Thanks for putting the focus back where it should be!
 
2014-06-18 03:22:51 AM  
Fox News calls Hitler a real mensch.
 
2014-06-18 03:28:34 AM  
Fox News praises Charles Manson for his sanity and clarity.
 
2014-06-18 03:31:19 AM  
Fox News praises Chernobyl Nuclear Plant's safety record.
 
2014-06-18 03:38:57 AM  

Antonio_Talibanderas: If you want Iraq as it currently exists on a map - you're gonna either have never-ending civil war or brutal tyranny. But if you want anything remotely resembling peace and unity in the region, you're gonna have to let the country split up, allowing borders to form organically. You can't have it both ways.


Yeah, I said that back in 2003, but since I turned down that goddamn sun god for a chance to have a spa day with the girls, nobody was listening to me. F*cking Apollo, I don't know what anyone sees in him.
 
2014-06-18 03:41:20 AM  
Fox News praises Greedo for shooting first.
 
2014-06-18 05:02:16 AM  

doofusgumby: tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?

Reality is not your forte, is it.


Until last week, your reality was there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq.   Here's Obama's view:

"If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (ISIS being al Qaeda)
"al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated"
"So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" .
 
2014-06-18 05:51:50 AM  

svanmeter: stan unusual: svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.

Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely wit ...

The Peshmerga have seized a key northern area of oil production and transport and Obama hasn't said anything at all about rolling that back and won't- it gives the Kurds a more defensible border, preserves their autonomy, and grants a de facto share of the oil wealth that al Maliki and his allies agreed to share with them (just as they agreed to share with the Sunni tribes of the Sunni Awakening too) promises his government has largely reneged on.  Bush knew what a duplicitous character al Maliki was and how beholden he was to Iran long ago.  He gave Ahmadinejad  a royal welcome at the same time he was poking Bush in the eye over negotiations over power sharing, autonomy and federalism with the Sunnis and Kurds.  al Maliki is the one responsible for the mess Iraq finds itself in now, but like the little kid in the old shake and bake commercial W can proudly exclaim "and I helpt!"   http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/02/iraq.ahmadinejad/index.html

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

/Obama should hand back his Nobel Peace Prize.

You seem fairly well informed. I'll give you the last word.


You are somewhat delusional as well as being historically inaccurate. FWIW, Eisenhower sent the first 'advisors' to Vietnam, not Kennedy. I know that doesn't alter the point you were making, but still, get your facts straight. Also, a few companies of troops assigned to stand guard and assist US citizens in Iraq does not equate to advisors no matter how you try to conflate things. By the way, this whole puppet of Iran thing is a colossal reach and makes you look unhinged.
 
2014-06-18 06:49:36 AM  
It's easy to predict something you caused.
 
2014-06-18 07:04:57 AM  

Peki: Wyalt Derp: Fox News Praises Rick Perry's Ability To Memorize Lists

Related: Fox News praises Rick Perry's decision to move to California.

/I'm still reeling over that one


Holy shiat!
 
2014-06-18 07:14:08 AM  

bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]

This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.


As I've said before, if the people didn't rise up against the rich during the great depression, they won't do it now.
 
2014-06-18 07:29:58 AM  
Fox News Praises Mr. T's ability to empathize with those lacking of judgement or sense.
Fox News Praises Idi Amin for his love of his people.
Fox News Praises Tommy Chong for his zero tolerance policy on drugs
 
2014-06-18 08:08:03 AM  

Mike_1962: svanmeter: stan unusual: svanmeter: RyogaM: svanmeter: I agree with your analysis ryogaM. I believe that Obama would be fine with allowing ISIS to "fester" as you say, but their festering in a highly valuable OIL area will result in Obama taking action.

One question I have is whether Obama can have his Nobel peace prize revoked for using violence to further his OIL interest$.

I agree that Iran has been the Iraqis' puppet master since 2008, but I also feel that their threat of involvement caused Obama to send in aircraft carriers. In this way, Obama has added himself to Iran's stable of puppets.

No, you really don't get it. We were attacked by al Qaeda in Afghanistan, an oil poor country and Obama has used and will use drones on al Qaeda proper members in areas regardless of whether the area is oil rich or poor.  ISIS has made itself a legitimate target be being too extreme for al Qaeda, beheading people for Youtube and generally being asses.  That they may control oil rich land at this point will not inform Obama's reason to use drones, as his main consideration is, and always will be, to attack al Qaeda linked groups that may pose a threat to to Americans, at home and abroad.

As for Iran, the fact that their enemies at this time also happens to be a legitimate potential threat to U.S. interests certainly is lucky for them, but since the only other option is to let them gain strength and potentially pull off another 9/11, it hardly makes us Iran's puppet to kill them now.  It actually serves a nice warming to Iran, that our interests will always be paramount.

But, I could be wrong.  If Obama uses military force on ISIS, all you got to do is find one poll that says the majority of Americans think it was because of oil, not because ISIS appears to be a threat.  Good luck.

Well ryogaM you're not following the news apparently. Obama has sent in the first ground troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/16/iraq-insurgency/1 0 569133/

You would love it if Obama could kill remotely wit ...

The Peshmerga have seized a key northern area of oil production and transport and Obama hasn't said anything at all about rolling that back and won't- it gives the Kurds a more defensible border, preserves their autonomy, and grants a de facto share of the oil wealth that al Maliki and his allies agreed to share with them (just as they agreed to share with the Sunni tribes of the Sunni Awakening too) promises his government has largely reneged on.  Bush knew what a duplicitous character al Maliki was and how beholden he was to Iran long ago.  He gave Ahmadinejad  a royal welcome at the same time he was poking Bush in the eye over negotiations over power sharing, autonomy and federalism with the Sunnis and Kurds.  al Maliki is the one responsible for the mess Iraq finds itself in now, but like the little kid in the old shake and bake commercial W can proudly exclaim "and I helpt!"   http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/03/02/iraq.ahmadinejad/index.html

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any. You will recall that the Vietnam war began with President Kennedy sent in a small force of Green Berets as "trainers". Your Peshmerga info is bang on, but it's not a precise correlation as to the ISIS issue. The Kurds have been selling oil and are not likely to discontinue selling oil to the West. You will agree that ISIS are unlikely to sell to us even in the best scenario... There in lies the rub... Obama is protecting OIL and is acting in the interests of ISIS' enemies Iran. As a consumer I should be happy Obama is protecting gas prices, but I have a son in uniform and Obama's reckless foreign policy is a cause of great concern. The fact that he is now Iran's stooge is also deeply disturbing.

/Obama should hand back his Nobel Peace Prize.

You seem fairly well informed. I'll give you the last word.

You are somewhat delusional as well as being historically inaccurate. FWIW, Eisenhower sent the first 'advisors' to Vietnam, not Kennedy. I know that doesn't alter the point you were making, but still, get your facts straight. Also, a few companies of troops assigned to stand guard and assist US citizens in Iraq does not equate to advisors no matter how you try to conflate things. By the way, this whole puppet of Iran thing is a colossal reach and makes you look unhinged.


It's awfully hard to convince anyone someone is delusional and has their history wrong when YOU are the fool with incorrect facts:

Go to JFK's own museum homepage:


http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1961.html


May 1961 - President Kennedy sends 400 American Green Beret 'Special Advisors' to South Vietnam to train South Vietnamese soldiers in methods of 'counter-insurgency' in the fight against Viet Cong guerrillas.

The role of the Green Berets soon expands to include the establishment of Civilian Irregular Defense Groups (CIDG) made up of fierce mountain men known as the Montagnards. These groups establish a series of fortified camps strung out along the mountains to thwart infiltration by North Vietnamese.

/the point you missed is not that troops were sent, It's that Obama went against his vow not to send any. His whole response with aircraft carriers shows that he can be played by Iran to do their dirty work. He said he wouldn't get involved, but as soon as Iran said that THEY would, he had to react. I don't blame him so much for that, I blame him for being short sighted and now looking like he's Iran's fool. I blame him for being motivated by OIL interests, which is the root of all his decisions in the region. Not very becoming of a Nobel Prize winner.
 
2014-06-18 08:15:31 AM  

tbeatty: doofusgumby: tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?

Reality is not your forte, is it.

Until last week, your reality was there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq.   Here's Obama's view:

"If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (ISIS being al Qaeda)
"al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated"
"So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" .


"here are a bunch of quotes that I just made up."
 
2014-06-18 08:22:12 AM  

DrBenway: svanmeter: DrBenway: svanmeter: stan unusual:

The ground troops aren't a large force to roll back ISIS, the Peshmerga or to prop up al Maliki- they're there to secure the embassy and any potential evacuation of Americans and allies if Bagdad falls to the Sunni militias and/or ISIS.

The point is not the mission of the force on the ground, it's the fact that Obama told us he wouldn't send any.

I could swear there's been an awful lot of biatching and moaning about us not having adequately secured our consulate in Benghazi. Does that ring a bell at all? But here you are saying we shouldn't send any troops to secure the embassy in Baghdad because Obama said he wouldn't send any. That is truly brilliant.

Nope you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not opposed to protecting our people. I'm opposed to a president who says he won't get involved then he does, only because he doesn't want the Iranians to fill the void:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=

Now he looks like Iran's biatch. I wish he would come clean and confess that all he is interested in are the OIL fields that ISIS would control. He also worries that Iranian involvement would endanger OIL production from those same fields. Violence in the name of OIL is not becoming of a Nobel Prize Winner.

Oh? I'm only going by your own comments. And in response to someone pointing out the purpose of the forces being sent in, you pretty clearly stated that you didn't care why they were there, and that it was a problem no matter what because he said he wouldn't send any troops.

So now you say you do want him to protect the embassy and US citizens there, just not with any troops? You're not making a whole lot of sense. Or if you are, you're being painfully inconsistent in trying to do so.


Whether troops are sent or not is not the point. You miss the point. The POINT is that Obama said he wouldn't get involved. Then as soon as Iran said that they would, he felt compelled to act. He quickly sent in aircraft carriers and now troops.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/world/middleeast/as-sunni-milita n ts-threaten-its-allies-in-baghdad-iran-weighs-options.html?_r=0&referr er=


He acted to prevent Iran from crossing the border and getting near the OIL fields. Iran is happy because they can get their enemies attacked without lifting a finger. Obama got PLAYED by Iran, who is laughing at us.

Once again, it's not about troops. It's about Obama taking action to protect OIL interests. Protect OIL from ISIS control. Protect OIL from Iranian involvement.

It's about the OIL. It's really not that hard to understand, unless your worldview - in which Obama can do no wrong - won't allow you to see what's really going on.
 
2014-06-18 09:04:13 AM  
In other words, "it's not the point that I'm contradicting the everlovin' crap out of myself..." Typically not a great way to make your argument.

Anyway, if you're going to go with the whole "Iran is playing him, Iran is laughing at us" tack, it's a bit silly to keep saying "NOW" over and over. That being your mindset on current circumstances, I would be very surprised indeed to hear that, in your opinion, our talks with them regarding weapons programs was a great diplomatic success for us, and that they weren't playing him and laughing at us THEN.
 
2014-06-18 09:26:15 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: tbeatty: doofusgumby: tbeatty: Mrtraveler01: Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea

BS.

Bush's foreign policy is what allowed Al Qaeda to establish a presence in Iraq which then blossomed into ISIS.


Wow.  You gotta be suckin' the teet hard to swallow that crap.  You just made that up, right?

Reality is not your forte, is it.

Until last week, your reality was there is no Al Qaeda in Iraq.   Here's Obama's view:

"If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (ISIS being al Qaeda)
"al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated"
"So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" .

"here are a bunch of quotes that I just made up."


Wow.  You are as dumb as you seem.  How's that IEP count to potato coming along?
Here's the quotes.  Wake up.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick? cu rrentPage=all  Kobe  january 2014
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-war-on-terror-aumf  decimated, repeated by MSNBC May 2014 - now he wants troops.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military-jan-june11-obamaspeech_06-22 /  "Tide of war receding" June 2011

Exxon is pulling out of Iraq.  Shiat just got real and you will see the Climate President ask Exxon "how high do I jump?"
 
2014-06-18 09:51:34 AM  
Fox News praises CNNs ability to report the news.
 
2014-06-18 10:20:29 AM  
Fox News praises Ferris Bueller for his devotion to school.
 
2014-06-18 12:13:40 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]

This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.

As I've said before, if the people didn't rise up against the rich during the great depression, they won't do it now.


If there had not been a New Deal, or if Prescott Bush and his cronies had pulled off the fascist coup they wanted, I wonder if there might have been a popular uprising?
 
2014-06-18 12:56:23 PM  

anfrind: Tyrone Slothrop: bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Saborlas: what_now: Fox News Praises Marie Antoinette Empathy for the Less Fortunate

Wrong person. The phrase was possibly invented by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his dubious autobiography, or created by the peasantry to libel her (she had to put up with a LOT of libel). There's no evidence Antoinette ever said it.

She didn't have to say it - she still wore diamonds when her people had no bread.

"Belonging to Marie Antoinette, the child of Empress Marie Theresa of Austria and Emperor Francis I, the estimated price is at $3.7 million."

[cdn4.list25.com image 640x360]

This, and a lot of the last 35 years of American governance and corporate oligarchy gives us historical precedent for what happens when you hand the keys to the throne room  to ridiculous, rich spoiled brats.

As I've said before, if the people didn't rise up against the rich during the great depression, they won't do it now.

If there had not been a New Deal, or if Prescott Bush and his cronies had pulled off the fascist coup they wanted, I wonder if there might have been a popular uprising?


The Sacco and Venzetti ticket?  They're like Ralph Nader without all the curb appeal.
 
2014-06-18 01:05:45 PM  
I really have nothing to add to this conversation, other than to say...

I don't believe I have hit the "funny" and "Smart" button so many times in one thread. Thank you Fark, you have made my week!
 
2014-06-18 01:14:57 PM  
Fox News praises Larry Craig's wide stance on the gay agenda.
 
2014-06-18 01:43:25 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Whee, 200 comments mocking Fox News for noticing that Dubya's foreign policy prevented the invasion now roiling Iraq.

/keep right on filling your echo chamber with bile
//ain't making Obama's "smart diplomacy" work any better
///just like mocking Sarah Palin didn't make Mrs. Clinton smart enough to keep Putin out of Crimea


Lame troll is lame.
The ACA can provide you with crutches...
 
2014-06-18 03:47:12 PM  
And the rest of the world (especially all those protesters) told him in 2003.
Go back to painting your feet, asshole.
 
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