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(BBC)   Spiders have personalities, their own DSM-V section   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 39
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2014-06-17 09:25:59 PM
Nope.

/Nope.
//Nope. Nope.
//Nope. Nope. Nope.
////oh hell no!
 
2014-06-17 10:54:20 PM
irrational fear of a unpredictable, easily spooked being that is thousands of times your size.
 
2014-06-17 10:56:18 PM
It's DSM-5, not DSM-V. They use the Arabic numeral now, not the Roman numeral. It was DSM-IV, but now it's DSM-5.
 
2014-06-17 10:59:47 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Nope.

/Nope.
//Nope. Nope.
//Nope. Nope. Nope.
////oh hell no!


First thing that came to mind,  three comments and I suspected that one of them would be along these lines.

+1 Nope
 
2014-06-17 11:01:34 PM

knockoutmice: It's DSM-5, not DSM-V. They use the Arabic numeral now, not the Roman numeral. It was DSM-IV, but now it's DSM-5.


When I was in the field, we always called it the Big Book of Pigeonholing and Name Calling.
 
2014-06-17 11:02:16 PM

Kanemano: irrational fear of a unpredictable, easily spooked being that is thousands of times your size.


You do realize you just said they were much much bigger than us.  You meant thousandths
 
2014-06-17 11:11:21 PM
My ex had a personality that would fit the very definition of "spider" and "DSM-5" equally.
 
2014-06-17 11:12:54 PM

knockoutmice: It's DSM-5, not DSM-V. They use the Arabic numeral now, not the Roman numeral. It was DSM-IV, but now it's DSM-5.


Spiders are in DSM-S.
 
2014-06-17 11:13:45 PM
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2014-06-17 11:19:50 PM
They could have ten times the personality of that Arnold Ziffel on Green Acres and I'd still squash the motherfarker.
 
2014-06-17 11:32:51 PM
The docile ones are the priestesses. They are ordering the aggressive ones to do their bidding, without getting their hands dirty.
 
2014-06-18 12:00:20 AM

phalamir: Kanemano: irrational fear of a unpredictable, easily spooked being that is thousands of times your size.

You do realize you just said they were much much bigger than us.  You meant thousandths


Hear that swishing sound of wind over your head?
 
2014-06-18 12:03:53 AM

knockoutmice: It's DSM-5, not DSM-V. They use the Arabic numeral now, not the Roman numeral. It was DSM-IV, but now it's DSM-5.


That's racist.
 
2014-06-18 12:13:40 AM

Ed Grubermann: phalamir: Kanemano: irrational fear of a unpredictable, easily spooked being that is thousands of times your size.

You do realize you just said they were much much bigger than us.  You meant thousandths

Hear that swishing sound of wind over your head?


I considered that, but then I considered the particular breed of retarded chimpanzees that are on Fark, and I decided the chance of being a fool was in the low single digits.  I evidently ran up against The Fickle biatch's beat-stick, but them's the breaks.
 
2014-06-18 12:15:32 AM
Has the NIH and the brain initiative put psychologists and their magic book out of their jobs yet?
 
2014-06-18 12:26:06 AM
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What a little cutie!  No, I don't understand the hate.
 
2014-06-18 12:27:17 AM
Sunny is just misunderstood. He meant that they have caused the creation of a section in the DSM-5 related to just them.
/nope
 
2014-06-18 12:39:15 AM
So do you drop the DSM book on them?
 
2014-06-18 12:46:18 AM
Would it still be "personality"? Wouldn't it be "spiderality" or "arachneality" or something?


worlddan: knockoutmice: It's DSM-5, not DSM-V. They use the Arabic numeral now, not the Roman numeral. It was DSM-IV, but now it's DSM-5.

That's racist.


It's the creeping advance of Sharia law! And they're teaming up with spiders!
 
2014-06-18 12:55:01 AM
My rose hair tarantula, Rosa, would eventually get used to your scent if you handled her enough. Around strangers, she was flighty, and threw her hairs as a defense mechanism. I used to wear her like a brooch and run errands. She was so calm, most people didn't think she was real.
/ CSB
/miss that old girl.
 
2014-06-18 01:16:51 AM

Arkanaut: Would it still be "personality"? Wouldn't it be "spiderality" or "arachneality" or something?


Interesting question. The etymology for person is ultimately, "mask," being derived from the notion of an assumed character in a drama. So if there isn't anything inherent in the original meaning of the word that lent itself to being only applied to humans, though in modern times we use "persona" for the same mask-concept. On the other hand can an animal, especially a invertebrate, really be said to be adopting a mask?--that kind of implies higher order cognitive skills. I still think personality is defesible because even the concepts such as "aggressive" and "docile" are themselves anthropomorphisms. So the spider would have a personality in the same sense that a doll can take on a personality to a child, through a projection for example. I will admit, however, that personality as a term of art is an awkward fit.
 
2014-06-18 02:45:00 AM

Czechzican: The docile ones are the priestesses. They are ordering the aggressive ones to do their bidding, without getting their hands dirty.


I thought the aggressive ones were so 'slash&burn' that the docile ones were self-imposed zombies for the accumulation and dispersal of the species.
 
2014-06-18 02:48:14 AM

worlddan: On the other hand can an animal, especially a invertebrate, really be said to be adopting a mask?


The old term for the adult stage of a metamorphosing insect was imago, which is literally "image", but can also be translated as "mask", so ... yes.
 
2014-06-18 02:49:39 AM

Czechzican: The docile ones are the priestesses. They are ordering the aggressive ones to do their bidding, without getting their hands dirty.


Oh no.  I read the Drizzt books; the matron mothers of the Spider Queen were all hyper-aggressive.
 
2014-06-18 02:52:16 AM

Mississippi Mud: [img.fark.net image 640x429]
What a little cutie!  No, I don't understand the hate.


The hate is that they're powerful enough to poison us in a moments notice, whilst we were still trying to figure out if it was even breathing.

The misunderstanding goes when we let our anxiety scare them, then again I'm not sure we totally understand ourselves at this point, I just know invertebrates creep me out when I'm not specifically looking for them. They anchor in place, stabilize their center of gravity as if to resist being flung away, and to some who read too fast, that is almost a challenge.
 
2014-06-18 02:57:27 AM

worlddan:  On the other hand can an animal, especially a invertebrate, really be said to be adopting a mask?--that kind of implies higher order cognitive skills. I still think personality is defesible because even the concepts such as "aggressive" and "docile" are themselves anthropomorphisms. So the spider would have a personality in the same sense that a doll can take on a personality to a child, through a projection for example. I will admit, however, that personality as a term of art is an awkward fit.


I don't quite think they're directly anthropomorphic, although they are actions deemed behaviors and in such, we haven't quite defined human so the end result is that we divvy off the scattered ends of the definition of behavior for our own uses, and tend to group most humans within easily definable categories, probably as an accidental defense to unwittingly alienating them.
 
2014-06-18 03:13:53 AM
Their personality can't save them from my murderous tendencies.
 
2014-06-18 05:57:44 AM
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/spiders in my house and I have an understanding. They can hide out and eat all the little critters that find their way inside and I won't kill them as long as I can't see them.
 
2014-06-18 06:06:08 AM

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/spiders in my house and I have an understanding. They can hide out and eat all the little critters that find their way inside and I won't kill them as long as I can't see them.


Same here.
/and the wasps eat the ones that get too big
//and the solifugae eat the rats.
//the giant geckos eat everything that's leftover
 
2014-06-18 06:34:17 AM
Clock spider must be an introvert.
 
2014-06-18 06:42:25 AM
 
2014-06-18 07:28:51 AM
Personally, *I* think that science journal is a crock.  They don't fact-check enough, they're a bunch of pretentious dick wads...

In short, I'm angry about the PNAS.

/had to really stretch to make that one work
//and that's what she said
 
2014-06-18 07:30:35 AM

Mississippi Mud: [img.fark.net image 640x429]
What a little cutie!  No, I don't understand the hate.


Neither do I.  I love spiders.

The bigger ones are creepy, but I still let them be.  ...Well...the giant, freaky ones are a nice tall glass of #NOPE, but outside of that...
 
2014-06-18 08:41:24 AM
FTA: "It was thought they acted as freeloaders and that colonies would perhaps be better off without these lazy spiders eating their food and contributing nothing positive to colony success," lead author, Colin Wright, from the University of Pittsburgh, US said. " -BBC

Well, that would be the initial conclusion that someone from the USA would make....
 
2014-06-18 09:11:11 AM
I always believed that spiders and other creatures that could be labelled as "bugs" were not self aware but were more like very sophisticated machines that could react well to internal/external stimulus. All decisions were based on the drive to survive and reproduce, that's it.
I suspect that future robots will be programed like ants, to work together in a swarm to achieve a single goal. Ants seem to be (in my opinion) the perfect organism, millions of individuals working with one mind to achieve one goal, the survival of the colony.
 
2014-06-18 09:15:51 AM
Sometimes spiders wake up at night thinking people are crawling on them.
 
2014-06-18 09:38:48 AM
I had no idea there were social spiders. That's pretty cool.

I'm the opposite of an arachnophobe. I love spiders and hate insects. Eat those motherfarkers, my eight-legged friends.
 
2014-06-18 11:13:54 AM
DeathByGeekSquadSquid: Their personality can't save them from my murderous tendenciestentacles.

I was really confused for a second.
 
2014-06-18 10:40:14 PM

Bathysphere: My rose hair tarantula, Rosa, would eventually get used to your scent if you handled her enough. Around strangers, she was flighty, and threw her hairs as a defense mechanism. I used to wear her like a brooch and run errands. She was so calm, most people didn't think she was real.
/ CSB
/miss that old girl.


mine is completely opposite.. all I have to do is try to refresh her water and she strikes at it.. so I got to where I just pour it in.. she STILL attacks the water.. lol.. but has made no attempt to escape when the lid is up.. and she knows it is up..  but I still enjoy her company.. makes no noise.. no real mess.. just stares at me all day long.. I REALLY want to know what she is thinking... lol

"Wow. if I could tag THAT I could eat for a lifetime.. come here my friend.. let me get a look at you.. yeah.. closer.... "
 
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