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(Orlando Sentinel)   Police respond to a Winn-Dixie parking lot after a 911 call comes in, find a 70 year-old man sitting on the bed of his truck with a gunshot wound to his foot. "Yeah, my holster broke and I accidentally shot myself"   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 61
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2014-06-17 08:54:20 AM  
Carrying a handgun in a waistband, rather than in a proper holster, should be grounds for reckless endangerment charges.
 
2014-06-17 11:43:43 AM  
Orlando Trifecta in play.
 
2014-06-17 11:43:57 AM  
I don't know. It sounds suspicious. I think we was trying to get a non-lethal wound in order to get out of an upcoming battle.
 
2014-06-17 11:44:07 AM  

Dimensio: Carrying a handgun in a waistband, rather than in a proper holster, should be grounds for reckless endangerment charges.


I recommend the punishment be an increased chance of having one's foot shot off.
 
2014-06-17 11:44:32 AM  

cgraves67: I don't know. It sounds suspicious. I think we was trying to get a non-lethal wound in order to get out of an upcoming battle.


or he. He was trying to get out...
 
2014-06-17 11:45:06 AM  

Dimensio: Carrying a handgun in a waistband, rather than in a proper holster, should be grounds for reckless endangerment charges.


Yeah...wouldn't want to go off half-cocked.
 
2014-06-17 11:45:14 AM  
Winn Dixie's are still around?  Next you'll tell me Piggly Wiggly is still a thing
 
2014-06-17 11:46:27 AM  
This little piggy went to the Winn Dixie, this little piggy got shot off...sumnabiatch!
 
2014-06-17 11:46:57 AM  

Dimensio: Carrying a handgun in a waistband, rather than in a proper holster, should be grounds for reckless endangerment charges.


IWB carry wasn't the problem here. A handgun that somehow shoots you in the foot when you drop it was, assuming that's some lame excuse.
 
2014-06-17 11:47:32 AM  
Er, not some lame excuse. Damnit, another joke ruined by low caffeine levels.
 
2014-06-17 11:49:02 AM  
Ah! The West Colonial Winn-Dixie!  We used to call it the "Twin Dixie" after the TV show Twin Peaks.  Always a strange assortment of characters in there, and always someone missing a limb.  One of the dirtiest stores I've ever seen.  But I'm sure it's been cleaned up and remodeled by now.

//rolls eyes
 
2014-06-17 11:50:29 AM  
For Florida this is a non story.
 
2014-06-17 11:52:06 AM  
All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.
 
2014-06-17 11:53:00 AM  

stuffy: For Florida this is a non story.



Responsible Gun Owner ™ always makes it a green lighter
 
2014-06-17 11:53:11 AM  

cubic_spleen: But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.


I appreciate you admitting that you are incapable of rational discussion.
 
2014-06-17 11:54:12 AM  
Why was your holster wrapped around the trigger? Why did it breaking pull the trigger.

/basically wtf am I reading
//guns should require a license with yearly renewal
 
2014-06-17 11:55:21 AM  

BoothbyTCD: Why was your holster wrapped around the trigger? Why did it breaking pull the trigger.


The breaking of the holster did not cause the negligent discharge. The individual was carrying in his waistband, reportedly because his proper holster was broken. Carrying a firearm in the waistband is inherently unsafe and, as I stated, should be grounds for a reckless endangerment charge.
 
2014-06-17 12:03:22 PM  
My uncle was hunting (that's code for drinking while carrying a gun) and rested his rifle on his foot so it didn't get muddy. Blew a toe away. We bug him about his missing piggy every chance we get.
 
2014-06-17 12:05:44 PM  

Dimensio: BoothbyTCD: Why was your holster wrapped around the trigger? Why did it breaking pull the trigger.

The breaking of the holster did not cause the negligent discharge. The individual was carrying in his waistband, reportedly because his proper holster was broken. Carrying a firearm in the waistband is inherently unsafe and, as I stated, should be grounds for a reckless endangerment charge.


Ahh, see that is what I get for not RTFA for once.
Completely agree about the reckless endangerment, and my license comment was really maybe there should be some mechanism for us to be able to tell gramps it's time for him to hang up the shootin' irons if he doesn't see how bad an idea waistband carry is.
 
2014-06-17 12:08:12 PM  
Hey, ya'll say Dixie Boy Truck stop?img.fark.net
Oh....Winn-Dixie.....well close enough! Muahahahhaa
 
2014-06-17 12:09:01 PM  
Jesus, another old fart doing his part to endanger the 2nd amendment. Way to go gramps.
 
2014-06-17 12:10:19 PM  

The hopeless imp: Dimensio: Carrying a handgun in a waistband, rather than in a proper holster, should be grounds for reckless endangerment charges.

IWB carry wasn't the problem here. A handgun that somehow shoots you in the foot when you drop it was, assuming that's some lame excuse.


I have dropped loaded guns several times and they've never gone off.

I dropped my 45 once, cocked and locked and that slow motion panic thing happened (I didn't think it was real until then). I clearly saw the gun tumble in the air an land exactly on the hammer with the barrel pointed at my stomach. Then it just fell on its side. I was surprised I didn't piss myself.
 
2014-06-17 12:13:27 PM  
Mexican Carry, probably the leading cause of firearms self injury behind "cleaning" accidents and one of the easiest and quickest ways to tell a responsible gun owner from a "responsible" gun owner.
 
2014-06-17 12:16:37 PM  

KidneyStone: I dropped my 45 once, cocked and locked and that slow motion panic thing happened (I didn't think it was real until then). I clearly saw the gun tumble in the air an land exactly on the hammer with the barrel pointed at my stomach. Then it just fell on its side. I was surprised I didn't piss myself.


A 1911 is only likely to discharge if it lands directly on it's muzzle and is pre Series 80 in production.  In order to discharge by landing on the hammer, several internal parts would have to break.
 
2014-06-17 12:16:54 PM  
"Don't worry, I know what I'm doing," says every gun owner, ever.
 
2014-06-17 12:22:28 PM  
Stupid old people.  Stupid irresponsible gun owner.

Stupid, old, irresponsible gun owner.
 
2014-06-17 12:35:13 PM  
It is impossible to predict whether a gun owner will be reckless or responsible, just as it is impossible to predict whether a gun owner is criminally insane or law-abiding.
Literally, the only way to know the difference is to allow the subject unrestricted access to firearms and ammunition, and wait to see what happens.

Once in possession of the weapon or weapons, if the subject does not shoot anyone, either deliberately or by accident, then we know that the subject is a Responsible Gun Owner.

However, if the subject does endanger, injure, or kill another person, then we know that they were insane, and should not, in hindsight, have been allowed to possess the weapon.
 
2014-06-17 12:39:02 PM  

CruJones: Winn Dixie's are still around?  Next you'll tell me Piggly Wiggly is still a thing


I work for a food company. We deliver to both of those companies.

Yes, they do exist.
 
2014-06-17 12:40:16 PM  
"The gun was returned to Williams, who was taken to the hospital, police said."
 
2014-06-17 12:42:34 PM  
Your average "responsible" gun owner.
 
2014-06-17 12:43:46 PM  
If Cap'n Jack Sparrow can shove his pistols in his belt, why can't I?
 
2014-06-17 12:45:49 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Don't worry, I know what I'm doing," says every gun owner, ever.


Yes, we are aware that you believe all firearm owners to be reckless and irresponsible, without exception and without justification.
 
2014-06-17 12:45:58 PM  
having never owned a handgun, but a number of rifles and shotguns, I have a question. Who the hell carries a handgun around with a round chambered? Especially in the waistband?

/people who like to shoot themselves in the feet, I guess
 
2014-06-17 12:48:11 PM  

hobnail: having never owned a handgun, but a number of rifles and shotguns, I have a question. Who the hell carries a handgun around with a round chambered? Especially in the waistband?

/people who like to shoot themselves in the feet, I guess


I carry a handgun with a round chambered. However, I use a proper holster that secures the firearm and that entirely covers the trigger guard.
 
2014-06-17 12:52:09 PM  

Devolving_Spud: Ah! The West Colonial Winn-Dixie!  We used to call it the "Twin Dixie" after the TV show Twin Peaks.  Always a strange assortment of characters in there, and always someone missing a limb.  One of the dirtiest stores I've ever seen.  But I'm sure it's been cleaned up and remodeled by now.

//rolls eyes


Winn Dixie is a strange animal. all the stores where I live are actually really nice, clean, fully stocked, etc. which is weird because everywhere else I have lived in Florida they have been nasty, filthy, disgusting grocery stores that people avoided like the plague. whoever the district  / regional manager is for the panhandle knows what they are doing.
 
2014-06-17 12:54:02 PM  
I think our ever-present public coverage of every time someone ever gets shot is the best form of gun control we can produce.
 
2014-06-17 01:03:37 PM  

DubtodaIll: I think our ever-present public coverage of every time someone ever gets shot is the best form of gun control we can produce.


it's the cost we all have to pay for that Polite Society apparently.
 
2014-06-17 01:13:31 PM  

Dimensio: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Don't worry, I know what I'm doing," says every gun owner, ever.

Yes, we are aware that you believe all firearm owners to be reckless and irresponsible, without exception and without justification.


I believe that reckless and irresponsible gun owners consider themselves to be non-reckless and responsible, until they prove to us they aren't, like this guy did.  Luckily he just shot himself and not someone else.
 
2014-06-17 01:29:21 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "The gun was returned to Williams, who was taken to the hospital, police said."


He only shot himself and someone's car.  That just won't do in Florida.

///If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
 
2014-06-17 01:33:24 PM  
This would have happen if there was someone else with a gun around to stop him.
 
2014-06-17 01:43:45 PM  

cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.


I'm shocked to see that in these threads, it's always the gun-grabbers that wish death upon people.

Shocked, I say!
 
2014-06-17 02:00:52 PM  

sugar_fetus: cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.

I'm shocked to see that in these threads, it's always the gun-grabbers that wish death upon people.

Shocked, I say!


Weird... I don't see where he wished death on anyone.  In fact, he wants to make sure that old man doesn't get the chance to cause death to anyone.
 
2014-06-17 02:03:28 PM  

stonicus: sugar_fetus: cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.

I'm shocked to see that in these threads, it's always the gun-grabbers that wish death upon people.

Shocked, I say!

Weird... I don't see where he wished death on anyone.  In fact, he wants to make sure that old man doesn't get the chance to cause death to anyone.


"cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes "

"CAPITAL CRIME. One for the punishment of which death is inflicted, "
 
2014-06-17 02:26:57 PM  

sugar_fetus: stonicus: sugar_fetus: cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.

I'm shocked to see that in these threads, it's always the gun-grabbers that wish death upon people.

Shocked, I say!

Weird... I don't see where he wished death on anyone.  In fact, he wants to make sure that old man doesn't get the chance to cause death to anyone.

"cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes "

"CAPITAL CRIME. One for the punishment of which death is inflicted, "


Ah, I gotcha... I just don't see it that way.  IMO, proposing a punishment for a crime is not the same as wishing that people actually get punishment applied to them.  Saying "traffic school is a fitting punishment for people caught speeding" is not the same as "wishing traffic school on everyone".
 
2014-06-17 02:40:43 PM  

hobnail: Who the hell carries a handgun around with a round chambered?


George Zimmerman types.
 
2014-06-17 02:40:53 PM  
I have a feeling these types of negligence crimes would drop dramatically if a single offense required a vehicular license suspension and a year of mandatory sobriety regulated through probationary piss testing.

Never met a gun owner that didn't like to drink irresponsibly. Never a drinker who could tell if they were being responsible or not, either.
 
2014-06-17 02:49:23 PM  

CruJones: Winn Dixie's are still around?  Next you'll tell me Piggly Wiggly is still a thing


Yep.  They just got bigger because they bought Sweetbay.

The Sweetbay near my place was closed for a week for "conversion".  It took them that long to hire a whole new staff and go through the store marking everything up 15%.
 
2014-06-17 04:19:14 PM  

Dimensio: BoothbyTCD: Why was your holster wrapped around the trigger? Why did it breaking pull the trigger.

The breaking of the holster did not cause the negligent discharge. The individual was carrying in his waistband, reportedly because his proper holster was broken. Carrying a firearm in the waistband is inherently unsafe and, as I stated, should be grounds for a reckless endangerment charge.


Upvoted for smartification.
 
2014-06-17 04:31:15 PM  

sugar_fetus: cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.

I'm shocked to see that in these threads, it's always the gun-grabbers that wish death upon people.

Shocked, I say!


In no place, ever, have I said people shouldn't have guns. I have said that the personal responsibility of owning a gun should be forced upon them. As in, you fark up with a gun, you get the needle. Anyone who believes differently obviously has no sense of self responsibility.
 
2014-06-17 05:19:09 PM  

cubic_spleen: sugar_fetus: cubic_spleen: All crimes committed with a firearm, whether felony or misdemeanor, should be capital crimes. Allowing this dumbass to continue to breathe and endanger the people around him is the height of irresponsibility. But then, gun owners aren't exactly known for their responsibility.

I'm shocked to see that in these threads, it's always the gun-grabbers that wish death upon people.

Shocked, I say!

In no place, ever, have I said people shouldn't have guns. I have said that the personal responsibility of owning a gun should be forced upon them. As in, you fark up with a gun, you get the needle. Anyone who believes differently obviously has no sense of self responsibility.


Yep, guess I have no sense of self-responsibility. I don't think blanket death penalties for a whole class of crime is reasonable at all. Nor would it be for most people.

In fact, I think anyone who does support blanket death penalties are completely irrational.
 
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