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2014-06-17 02:24:56 PM
1) I've yet to see almost any rollaboards fit in this box:
traveler2.typepad.com

2) I use a smaller (18") rollaboard and have never had a problem as it would fit under a seat if needed.

3) Delta almost always offers to gatecheck bags now on full flights for free.  .

4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

5) If your kid is under 12 years old and has their own suitcase, put that under the seat in front of them because a) they don't need the foot room b) someone else can then use the overhead space c) it's a lot less hectic having the kids pull their own suitcase out from under a seat than holding up the deplaning process while you gather all of their bags.
 
2014-06-17 02:53:10 PM
I don't think I've ever seen an airline enforce carryon rules. To paraphrase a friend of mine, "Why yes sir, your set of six matching solid oak 17th century german armoires should fit in the overhead, and we'll let you board first. The other passengers can surely find other space."
 
2014-06-17 03:24:44 PM

stpauler: If your kid is under 12 years old and has their own suitcase

put them in it, and check the bag.
 
Ral
2014-06-17 03:25:28 PM
Airlines post their restrictions on their websites.  It behooves you to check them and make sure you shiat fits.  I recently found out that one of my bags was a bit too long, and therefore didn't fit very well in the overhead bins (which drove me nuts).  The airline never tried to stop me, but I've bought a new bag that is size compliant just for my own benefit because getting the damn thing in the overhead is a lot easier.

I fly Delta almost exclusively (mainly because they have the best flights to the places I go.  I've never had a problem with them getting in my face about my bags.  As was previously mentioned, they will check bags at the gate if they have to.  I've done it before.
 
2014-06-17 03:25:31 PM
If they didn't lose bags all the time, I'd think about it. No, seriously, something needs to be done to accomodate business travel in economy just a bit more. If I go away for three days, and have the first meeting an hour after the plane lands, I want hand luggage. And if I have to fly for that up to three hours, I'll go in economy.
 
2014-06-17 03:30:14 PM

stpauler: 4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.


This. For business trips, I need one carry-on then I have my Ogio laptop backpack which doubles-down on my "purse" and "laptop bag." fark carrying 6 different bags around. Who does this and WHY? I took a flight to see my parents for the holidays, taking my then 11 month old. What did I carry on? The DIAPER BAG. Everything else was shipped and arrived at the parent's house prior to the plane ride. I used a carrier to tote her around the airport (no stroller).

Of course, at the time, if I'd known, I would've purchased her a seat and had her in the car seat. You live and learn... Now it's even better. I have backpack for me, small backpack for her and carseat on push-cart (to double as a stroller). We take NO time to get our sht ready for security, unlike these families I see with the Tank Stroller, 6 carry-on rollerbags, diaper bags, backpacks, etc, etc, etc. WHY do that to yourself? No. Ship it and forget it.
 
2014-06-17 03:33:06 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: If they didn't lose bags all the time, I'd think about it. No, seriously, something needs to be done to accomodate business travel in economy just a bit more. If I go away for three days, and have the first meeting an hour after the plane lands, I want hand luggage. And if I have to fly for that up to three hours, I'll go in economy.


My favorite thing about that is that if they lose your bag, they do not refund your $50 checked bag fee. So yeah, you paid them $50 to lose your crap.

Allegiant air is the worst. Your free "personal item cannot be thicker than 6".

Spirit is a great airline to fly if you hate yourself.

Southwest would be perfect for cheap flying if you didn't have to do the stupid online check-in game to get your place in line for open seating...but bags are free. Seriously...if you pay for the ticket, why can't you just print it and take it with you? Why the frick are you required to try to check in when you're some random place on vacation if you don't want to have each of your family members stuck in rando middle seats.  And why can people who have friggin kids ignore that whole stupid checkin thing and just go between A and B.  Great airline with stupid rules.
 
2014-06-17 03:34:03 PM

Kirzania: stpauler: 4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

This. For business trips, I need one carry-on then I have my Ogio laptop backpack which doubles-down on my "purse" and "laptop bag." fark carrying 6 different bags around. Who does this and WHY? I took a flight to see my parents for the holidays, taking my then 11 month old. What did I carry on? The DIAPER BAG. Everything else was shipped and arrived at the parent's house prior to the plane ride. I used a carrier to tote her around the airport (no stroller).

Of course, at the time, if I'd known, I would've purchased her a seat and had her in the car seat. You live and learn... Now it's even better. I have backpack for me, small backpack for her and carseat on push-cart (to double as a stroller). We take NO time to get our sht ready for security, unlike these families I see with the Tank Stroller, 6 carry-on rollerbags, diaper bags, backpacks, etc, etc, etc. WHY do that to yourself? No. Ship it and forget it.


Ship it and it arrives late and damaged.
 
2014-06-17 03:34:10 PM
Anyone see that cheesy movie 'The Purge' with Ethan Hawke? One day out of the year, all 'crimes' are legal.

Jesus farking christ, that is my dream. I would head to the nearest airport and kill anyone with a carry-on bag. Slowly.

Then I'd throatfark you while you die and assfark you after you are dead and give you a dirty sanchez with my choco-dick after I'm done.

Defecation in your precious carry-on bag would be the icing on the cake.

/fark you and your goddamn farking midget suitcase, farking cocksucking assholes.
//fark your mom too
 
2014-06-17 03:34:50 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: And if I have to fly for that up to three hours, I'll go in economy.


Might be cheaper for your company to rent a car, pay you the additional day or two for travel, and have you drive there. No worrying about luggage, delayed flights, etc.

When I was in the military, any TDY that had a destination I could get to within 24 hour's drive, I would opt for driving there with a rental instead. I love flying, but love driving more.
 
2014-06-17 03:34:59 PM
Without limits, assholes would try and shove a jet ski in the overhead bins.  I don't have much sympathy for those that try and carry on an oversized bag and them are told it has to be checked.

/ I intentionally use a slightly undersized roll-aboard, and still a manage to pack enough crap to be comfortable on trips.
 
2014-06-17 03:36:38 PM
I hate flying so much. I'm 6'4" and when I travel I have to pack a suit. I've learned how to do that in a carryon, because I won't risk checking my bags if I can possibly help it. The TSA and their security kabuki are just shiat icing on the feces cake that is modern air travel. And now the airlines are playing grabass at the gate with telling people they're going to force them to check bags.

Cramming my frame into an airplane seat for five hours of flight is nothing short of torture. Even sitting bolt upright with my back in agony my knees are crushed against the seat in front of me, and I can't get to a comfortable position no matter what I do. After a cross country flight I'm in pain for days- usually just getting better about the time I have to go back into the torture chamber to go home.

I would rather take a train or drive anywhere. Flying is the absolute worst way to travel, and it makes the entire trip a misery. Thankfully I don't have to do it often.
 
2014-06-17 03:37:25 PM

Kirzania: stpauler: 4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

This. For business trips, I need one carry-on then I have my Ogio laptop backpack which doubles-down on my "purse" and "laptop bag." fark carrying 6 different bags around. Who does this and WHY? I took a flight to see my parents for the holidays, taking my then 11 month old. What did I carry on? The DIAPER BAG. Everything else was shipped and arrived at the parent's house prior to the plane ride. I used a carrier to tote her around the airport (no stroller).

Of course, at the time, if I'd known, I would've purchased her a seat and had her in the car seat. You live and learn... Now it's even better. I have backpack for me, small backpack for her and carseat on push-cart (to double as a stroller). We take NO time to get our sht ready for security, unlike these families I see with the Tank Stroller, 6 carry-on rollerbags, diaper bags, backpacks, etc, etc, etc. WHY do that to yourself? No. Ship it and forget it.


Wow--seriously, I really wish more people with kids in tow would plan ahead like you do. Sounds like you'd be the FIRST person-with-kids on a flight that I would not mind sitting nearby to. More often than not (and keep in mind I fly only twice a year during vacation) it's pretty much parents hogging up space and, yes, I've even seen them bring freakin' STROLLERS on-board. You, madame, sound like a class act.
 
2014-06-17 03:37:43 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: If they didn't lose bags all the time, I'd think about it. No, seriously, something needs to be done to accomodate business travel in economy just a bit more. If I go away for three days, and have the first meeting an hour after the plane lands, I want hand luggage. And if I have to fly for that up to three hours, I'll go in economy.


You schedule meetings an hour after the published arrival time?  What kind of cockeyed optimist are you?

Before the farking airlines started charging $25+ each way for checked baggage I used to check bags all the time, just so I didn't have to deal with the battle for overhead luggage space. I never once LOST a piece of luggage.  I had some that didn't arrive at my destination on the same day that I did but the airlines were always good about bringing them to me wherever I was. 99 times out of 100 on a direct flight my checked bag would make it through fine.  Probably 95 times out of 100 where I had to change planes.
 
2014-06-17 03:39:47 PM

Russ1642: Ship it and it arrives late and damaged.


I've done it loads of times without issue? I use UPS (and I use to work in one of their distribution centers) and it's all clothes and shoes and some liquids (shampoo, sunscreen, things TSA will cavity check you for.) Everything goes in baggies and clothes/shoes are all in a massive SpaceBag, for protection against the elements. I generally have not had problems with shipments not showing up before the promised time and, even so... If THEY lose my box, I am at least compensated my shipping fee. Unlike the airline where they'll charge $50 to lose my expensive luggage. This, at least, is just a box of clothes. Clothes can always be replaced.
 
2014-06-17 03:40:03 PM
And don't get me started on the mouthbreathers with their hard-sided rolly bags. If I can pack a week's clothing including a suit and multiple casual outfits in a goddamn soft-sided backpack, you can get by with less, you farkstains. Stop making me play farking tetris just to get my one small bag into the overhead bin.
 
2014-06-17 03:42:14 PM

stpauler: 1) I've yet to see almost any rollaboards fit in this box:
[traveler2.typepad.com image 850x1139]

2) I use a smaller (18") rollaboard and have never had a problem as it would fit under a seat if needed.

3) Delta almost always offers to gatecheck bags now on full flights for free.  .

4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

5) If your kid is under 12 years old and has their own suitcase, put that under the seat in front of them because a) they don't need the foot room b) someone else can then use the overhead space c) it's a lot less hectic having the kids pull their own suitcase out from under a seat than holding up the deplaning process while you gather all of their bags.


Funny you post that picture. At San Fran's airport, it was the first time we've ever seen someone force you to put your luggage in there. They were making people go back and check bags before entering the security line (not sure how) with Delta. This was the spot right beside the Delta ticket booth. I'd never seen that before. Talked with other people on the flight and apparently, you go to any other security gate and you are fine so if you had a bigger bag for a trip, you checked in with Delta, but walk to another security area.
 
2014-06-17 03:42:32 PM
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2014-06-17 03:44:57 PM

reprobate1125: Allegiant air is the worst. Your free "personal item cannot be thicker than 6".


There's a penis joke in there somewhere...
 
2014-06-17 03:46:09 PM

Cyclometh: And don't get me started on the mouthbreathers with their hard-sided rolly bags. If I can pack a week's clothing including a suit and multiple casual outfits in a goddamn soft-sided backpack, you can get by with less, you farkstains. Stop making me play farking tetris just to get my one small bag into the overhead bin.


I'm not just packing clothes.  I'm packing work shiat.  And I'm sure as hell not going to check that in.  And my roller bag fits perfectly well in in mid to new model 737s.  Not so well on older 737s.  But so what?  My job is to get on the flight, shove my bag into the overhead bin, plug myself into my headphones so I can ignore the whining from idiots like you who can't manage the simple process of getting on a flight without needing to discuss it for weeks after with a therapist.
 
2014-06-17 03:46:58 PM

MelGoesOnTour: I've even seen them bring freakin' STROLLERS on-board.


Nothing makes me more upset than this. They get halfway down the aisle before a flight attendant will say something and then this mom/dad is surprised, "Oh, I shouldn't bring this on? I should gate check it! BUT WHY. I need it to move my child around once I get off the plane!!" I get why some parents want it but honestly. Car seat strapped to Magna Cart works just fine. I promise. I've had other parents in airports in shock and awe that this could be achieved! Those straps don't just work in your car, folks. You do it right, and you can strap that sucker onto anything securely.
/giggity

MelGoesOnTour: You, madame, sound like a class act.


Aw, you're making me blush. Thank you!
/also provides tablet with at least 8 hours of video distraction + headphones for the little one too because you think I want to listen to her scream too?
 
2014-06-17 03:48:00 PM

steve_wmn: Coming on a Bicycle: If they didn't lose bags all the time, I'd think about it. No, seriously, something needs to be done to accomodate business travel in economy just a bit more. If I go away for three days, and have the first meeting an hour after the plane lands, I want hand luggage. And if I have to fly for that up to three hours, I'll go in economy.

You schedule meetings an hour after the published arrival time?  What kind of cockeyed optimist are you?

Before the farking airlines started charging $25+ each way for checked baggage I used to check bags all the time, just so I didn't have to deal with the battle for overhead luggage space. I never once LOST a piece of luggage.  I had some that didn't arrive at my destination on the same day that I did but the airlines were always good about bringing them to me wherever I was. 99 times out of 100 on a direct flight my checked bag would make it through fine.  Probably 95 times out of 100 where I had to change planes.


Not the person you are replying too, but I know a lot of businesses if you have a 10am meeting, they will insist you take a morning flight if possible rather than fly the night before and their cheapass pay for an extra night of hotel.
So you book a 6am that lands at 9am and hoof it to the meeting.
 
2014-06-17 03:52:23 PM

MindStalker: steve_wmn: Coming on a Bicycle: If they didn't lose bags all the time, I'd think about it. No, seriously, something needs to be done to accomodate business travel in economy just a bit more. If I go away for three days, and have the first meeting an hour after the plane lands, I want hand luggage. And if I have to fly for that up to three hours, I'll go in economy.

You schedule meetings an hour after the published arrival time?  What kind of cockeyed optimist are you?

Before the farking airlines started charging $25+ each way for checked baggage I used to check bags all the time, just so I didn't have to deal with the battle for overhead luggage space. I never once LOST a piece of luggage.  I had some that didn't arrive at my destination on the same day that I did but the airlines were always good about bringing them to me wherever I was. 99 times out of 100 on a direct flight my checked bag would make it through fine.  Probably 95 times out of 100 where I had to change planes.

Not the person you are replying too, but I know a lot of businesses if you have a 10am meeting, they will insist you take a morning flight if possible rather than fly the night before and their cheapass pay for an extra night of hotel.
So you book a 6am that lands at 9am and hoof it to the meeting.


Yup, and fly you back in the afternoon, too.  Which is why I have a billion frequent flier miles, all from BOS->EWR / EWR->BOS shuttle flights on the same farking day.
 
2014-06-17 03:56:41 PM
I've never had any airline ask me to squish my suit bag into that carry-on measuring thing, though it appears to be too big for their limits. Never had a problem fitting it into overhead bins on anything bigger than a puddle jumper either. Though, they have had it checked at the end of the jetway a few times. Still more convenient than waiting at baggage claim, and a lot more certain to end up on the correct plane that way.

/laptop bag as a second item in case they want to make me check the suit bag
//fit in a book and some M&Ms and don't need a lot more than that
///slasssshy slashy slashy
 
2014-06-17 03:57:11 PM

stpauler: 1) I've yet to see almost any rollaboards fit in this box:
[traveler2.typepad.com image 850x1139]

2) I use a smaller (18") rollaboard and have never had a problem as it would fit under a seat if needed.

3) Delta almost always offers to gatecheck bags now on full flights for free.  .

4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

5) If your kid is under 12 years old and has their own suitcase, put that under the seat in front of them because a) they don't need the foot room b) someone else can then use the overhead space c) it's a lot less hectic having the kids pull their own suitcase out from under a seat than holding up the deplaning process while you gather all of their bags.


Yes to this good sir. Often I will walk up to the gate agent and offer to just gate check my bag. They almost always accept. I've used the same carry-on sized rolling suitcase for every single trip I've made since I was 20 (might need to replace it). The only time I've packed a full size suitcase was when I was leaving the country for six months.
 
2014-06-17 03:58:57 PM
If airlines weren't reaming their customers on baggage fees the customers wouldn't be trying to cram everything in a carry-on.
 
2014-06-17 04:01:41 PM
I was on a flight a couple of months ago where a woman with a ~5 year old was in line in front of me to get on the plane.  Between her and her daughter they had around 6 bags - 3 roller bags, a purse, a child's backpack, and a large shopping bag.  When she got up there, she says to the lady at the gate, "is this okay?" and the lady looks at her and all her stuff and says "sure go ahead."  Then promptly makes me measure my roller bag and yells at me for trying to stuff it in (the tag just got stuck when I put it in and I was trying to fix that so it would slide in which it did).  Anyway, I would say I agree with the complaints in this article based on that alone.
 
2014-06-17 04:01:47 PM

CornFedIowan: If airlines weren't reaming their customers on baggage fees the customers wouldn't be trying to cram everything in a carry-on.


Eh, even if they stopped charging checked baggage fees I'd still go with a small soft carryon. Once I figured out I could pack enough for a week in a small backpack it's been a lot easier getting into and out of airports. And it makes it easier to fit because in a pinch I can put it under the seat in front of me when the overheads are full of oversized hard-sided rollaways crammed in by the entitled douchebag set, although that makes it even less comfortable because it takes up some foot room.
 
2014-06-17 04:07:34 PM
I love the fear-mongering they do during boarding. "There is no more room for carry-on bags. Please check them at the gate!" Meanwhile the entire overhead is empty. I pack light and can fit everything I need into a carry-on so, no I will not pay $50 to check a bag that you will lose, damage, or steal something from and then wait around for an hour at baggage claim instead of making my collecting flight.

The only time I had a sky b*tch ask me to put my bag in one of those size things was on EasyJet in Europe. My husband shoved it in, but the wheel got stuck and he had to nearly rip it out when she graciously let us take it on despite the 1/8" wheel excess. It fit in the overhead with plenty of room to spare room.
 
2014-06-17 04:11:31 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: stpauler: If your kid is under 12 years old and has their own suitcase put them in it, and check the bag.


** golf clap **
 
2014-06-17 04:18:56 PM

I Like Shiny Things: Anyone see that cheesy movie 'The Purge' with Ethan Hawke? One day out of the year, all 'crimes' are legal.


Yes, the gf and I watched it one night in March.  At the end of the show (maybe in the beginning as well, I don't know) they said the Purge started on March 21 and ended on March 22.  Coincidentally, we watched it on March 22, looked at the clock and we still had two hours of purging left.

/Too bad it wasn't real.
 
2014-06-17 04:24:56 PM

I Like Shiny Things: Anyone see that cheesy movie 'The Purge' with Ethan Hawke? One day out of the year, all 'crimes' are legal.

Jesus farking christ, that is my dream. I would head to the nearest airport and kill anyone with a carry-on bag. Slowly.

Then I'd throatfark you while you die and assfark you after you are dead and give you a dirty sanchez with my choco-dick after I'm done.

Defecation in your precious carry-on bag would be the icing on the cake.

/fark you and your goddamn farking midget suitcase, farking cocksucking assholes.
//fark your mom too


i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-17 04:45:13 PM

Cyclometh: Eh, even if they stopped charging checked baggage fees I'd still go with a small soft carryon. Once I figured out I could pack enough for a week in a small backpack it's been a lot easier getting into and out of airports. And it makes it easier to fit because in a pinch I can put it under the seat in front of me when the overheads are full of oversized hard-sided rollaways crammed in by the entitled douchebag set, although that makes it even less comfortable because it takes up some foot room.


Yup. I never understood the desire for hard-sided, wheeled luggage. Aside the fact that the fixed shape limits where you can fit the thing, the wheels add weight and use up space. If you're a normal adult and you can't manage to carry something the size of a carry-on bag filled with clothes through an airport you'd better be flying to a hospice or a country that has doctor-assisted suicide.
 
2014-06-17 04:50:42 PM

gingerjet: Cyclometh: And don't get me started on the mouthbreathers with their hard-sided rolly bags. If I can pack a week's clothing including a suit and multiple casual outfits in a goddamn soft-sided backpack, you can get by with less, you farkstains. Stop making me play farking tetris just to get my one small bag into the overhead bin.

I'm not just packing clothes.  I'm packing work shiat.  And I'm sure as hell not going to check that in.  And my roller bag fits perfectly well in in mid to new model 737s.  Not so well on older 737s.  But so what?  My job is to get on the flight, shove my bag into the overhead bin, plug myself into my headphones so I can ignore the whining from idiots like you who can't manage the simple process of getting on a flight without needing to discuss it for weeks after with a therapist.


Relax, Francis. No one's taking your check-in steamer trunk away.
 
2014-06-17 04:55:50 PM
I don't really care what anyone brings on, so long as it complies with the airline's rules and they don't pull that dick move where they shove their bag in the first available overhead bin before proceeding to their seat at the back of the plane, thereby forcing someone else to stow their shiat further back in the plan than their seat.

They should pull you off the plane and hurl you through the engine for that maneuver.
 
2014-06-17 04:57:28 PM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 425x284]


damn right

I don't

never will again until Al Gore gives me his G4.
 
2014-06-17 05:10:27 PM

China White Tea: I don't really care what anyone brings on, so long as it complies with the airline's rules and they don't pull that dick move where they shove their bag in the first available overhead bin before proceeding to their seat at the back of the plane, thereby forcing someone else to stow their shiat further back in the plan than their seat.

They should pull you off the plane and hurl you through the engine for that maneuver.


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2014-06-17 05:26:42 PM
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2014-06-17 05:52:38 PM
I was all set to biatch and moan about how this is some farked-up bullshiat, but then I measured my bag and found that it's exactly the right dimensions. FARK YOU GUYS, I GOT MINE.

/now if you'll excuse me, I need to drive to the airport at exactly the speed limit in the left lane
 
2014-06-17 05:55:12 PM
Domestic flights in America suck donkey kong. I pity anyone who has to do it. I'll pay whatever it takes to fly direct into my destination from outside.
 
2014-06-17 06:05:46 PM
The planes are full.  Think about that.  They can sell all the seats they have to sell, even with this crappy service.  People biatch and moan, but then take the flight on Travelocity that is 1 dollar cheaper, no matter which airline, and how much they hate them. Remember Midwest Express?  2 across leather seats, up graded food, etc.  It cost a little bit more, and got driven out of business by Southwest's cheaper fares.

If you want the service most people say they want: On time, comfortable, polite attendants, unlimited baggage, etc, go down to the charter terminal and price it.  Everything people say they want is available, but nobody wants to pay for it.  Until people vote with their wallets, and are willing to patronize an airline that gives better service at a price, the race to the bottom will continue.
 
2014-06-17 06:15:49 PM
I have not flown in a long time, but its always been my thought that if the various airlines have a significant variation in the size of carry ons they allow that it would probably be a good thing for consumers to get the to agree to one standard size across the industry,

Mind i have no clue if any major variation exists.
 
2014-06-17 06:39:32 PM
I fly Southwest as much as possible to avoid the checked baggage fees (live near one of their hubs, and I have fewer problems with them than other airlines). I play my own "game" to determine if I check my bag. If my boarding pass is B-20 or lower, I'll carry my bag on, since in my experience there is still bin space available where I want to sit (am happy sitting towards the back of the plane). B-21 or higher I'll tend to check it to avoid the hassle of finding bins, unless the folks at the check-in counter indicate that the flight is less than half full.

On other airlines it is always worse, since more folks will carry on to avoid the charge. But since my company covers the checked bag fee, unless I end up in the 1st or 2nd boarding group I'm checking my bag.

I almost always check my bag on the way home, If they are going to misplace it, better that happens on the return where I won't have an urgent need for its contents.

/have reasonable sized soft carryon, company pays for dry cleaning, so don't need a lot of outfits
 
2014-06-17 06:50:30 PM
now everyone knows the airline industry is one passenger away from bankruptcy.


because they said so.  wink.
 
2014-06-17 06:52:37 PM
 
2014-06-17 06:58:04 PM

FiggyPudding: Domestic flights in America suck donkey kong. I pity anyone who has to do it. I'll pay whatever it takes to fly direct into my destination from outside.


i would open your aperture of hate a little bit


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396285/Ryanair-Bonuses-catc hi ng-excess-baggage-pushing-e-cigarettes.html
 
2014-06-17 07:17:14 PM

Kirzania: stpauler: 4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

This. For business trips, I need one carry-on then I have my Ogio laptop backpack which doubles-down on my "purse" and "laptop bag." fark carrying 6 different bags around. Who does this and WHY? I took a flight to see my parents for the holidays, taking my then 11 month old. What did I carry on? The DIAPER BAG. Everything else was shipped and arrived at the parent's house prior to the plane ride. I used a carrier to tote her around the airport (no stroller).

Of course, at the time, if I'd known, I would've purchased her a seat and had her in the car seat. You live and learn... Now it's even better. I have backpack for me, small backpack for her and carseat on push-cart (to double as a stroller). We take NO time to get our sht ready for security, unlike these families I see with the Tank Stroller, 6 carry-on rollerbags, diaper bags, backpacks, etc, etc, etc. WHY do that to yourself? No. Ship it and forget it.


Possibly an option for domestic trips but on international trips the shipping is not reasonable.

/just wrapped up a 15 hour flight with 2 kids
//my kids were essentially silent except for the last 20 minutes
 
2014-06-17 07:29:48 PM
Charge for carry-on bags, let checked bags fly for free.  Suddenly the entire planing / deplaning experience becomes much more civilized.  And load by seats inside to outside instead of back to front.
 
2014-06-17 07:35:04 PM
The last time I flew (a couple months ago), I was one of the last people on the plane. I watched as various other passengers hefted large rolling suitcases and other oddly shaped articles (jackets, coats, shopping bags) into the overhead compartments, leaving almost no room for mine and a couple other people's. The male flight attendant had to relocate a few bags to make room for ours, and was not really happy about it. Tough shiat. Start enforcing baggage size restrictions.

This was a Southwest flight out of Dallas. It was towards the end of the day, so it was nearly full. As far as I could tell, they don't strictly enforce baggage size or number restrictions, but they should.
 
2014-06-17 07:45:48 PM

dj245: Kirzania: stpauler: 4) Stop packing so much shiat on trips. Seriously.

This. For business trips, I need one carry-on then I have my Ogio laptop backpack which doubles-down on my "purse" and "laptop bag." fark carrying 6 different bags around. Who does this and WHY? I took a flight to see my parents for the holidays, taking my then 11 month old. What did I carry on? The DIAPER BAG. Everything else was shipped and arrived at the parent's house prior to the plane ride. I used a carrier to tote her around the airport (no stroller).

Of course, at the time, if I'd known, I would've purchased her a seat and had her in the car seat. You live and learn... Now it's even better. I have backpack for me, small backpack for her and carseat on push-cart (to double as a stroller). We take NO time to get our sht ready for security, unlike these families I see with the Tank Stroller, 6 carry-on rollerbags, diaper bags, backpacks, etc, etc, etc. WHY do that to yourself? No. Ship it and forget it.

Possibly an option for domestic trips but on international trips the shipping is not reasonable.

/just wrapped up a 15 hour flight with 2 kids
//my kids were essentially silent except for the last 20 minutes


This.  I looked into international shipping for an upcoming trip, and checked bag fees are a bargain by comparison.  A parcel that might cost $25 to ship domestically would easily cost $300 as soon as it has to cross an ocean.
 
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