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2014-06-17 03:47:21 AM
paying for obscene amounts of food at a buffet

So, not so disappointing after all.

/a cruise ship on solid ground
 
2014-06-17 07:27:32 AM
Any Magnetic Hill.
 
2014-06-17 07:44:03 AM
Stone Mountain, Ga.
Nuff said.
 
2014-06-17 07:44:34 AM

Tr0mBoNe: Any Magnetic Hill.


How do they work?
 
2014-06-17 07:46:03 AM
See Rock City! See Ruby Falls!

/See Ruby gets up again!
 
2014-06-17 07:46:38 AM
Most "disappointing" in the world?

No. No. No. No. No. No. Wait, people go there on purpose? No. No. WTF?
 
2014-06-17 07:46:51 AM
 Gibraltar is a total rip.  But if you are in the neighborhood, by all means give it a look.  Same for the Temple Bar in Dublin.  Just keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your junk in both places.
 
2014-06-17 07:47:31 AM
Posted: 04/14/2014 4:35 pm EDT

Wow, going back in time here.
 
2014-06-17 07:47:42 AM
Tourist traps are expensive and crowded with tourists? You don't say!
 
2014-06-17 07:48:19 AM
Anyone having problems with Huffington Post on the iPhone where it blocks the ability to switch between pages with an ad?
 
2014-06-17 07:48:43 AM

Tr0mBoNe: Any Magnetic Hill.


Non-magnetic hill with added gravity?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiehallion_experiment
 
2014-06-17 07:48:56 AM
Came for Hollywood. Leaving satisfied.

I once visited LA with a French colleague who had never been to the USA. He was adamant that we should go to Hollywood. No amount of reasoning convinced him, so... That's how we wasted our Sunday abroad, looking at dusty stars, getting harassed for money, and oggling exotic dancer mannequins for the novelty of it. Though the Little Devil burgers and craft beer were awesome... More so on expense account.

The following weekend I ditched French dude and flew to SF to meet a friend. Now THAT was a proper weekend abroad.
 
2014-06-17 07:49:22 AM
Most people don't vacation to relax or enjoy themselves. They just want pictures to prove they were there.
 
2014-06-17 07:49:45 AM
Seriously, subby, casinos suck. Gambling is for retards. I would argue the point about Disney World, but then I'm a person of sufficient means to not look at the price of cocktails, souvenirs and meals when I go on vacation (I'm not rich, but I have a solid cash position, and I don't go on vacation very often). The Mouse is very good at entertainment, and you pay full price for it.

Pretty solid list, actually.
 
2014-06-17 07:53:03 AM

sotua: Came for Hollywood. Leaving satisfied.

I once visited LA with a French colleague who had never been to the USA. He was adamant that we should go to Hollywood. No amount of reasoning convinced him, so... That's how we wasted our Sunday abroad, looking at dusty stars, getting harassed for money, and oggling exotic dancer mannequins for the novelty of it. Though the Little Devil burgers and craft beer were awesome... More so on expense account.

The following weekend I ditched French dude and flew to SF to meet a friend. Now THAT was a proper weekend abroad.


This. Hollywood and Vine is as lame and shabby as Gatlinburg, TN. Plenty of interesting film-industry tourism in LA, but none of it's in Hollywood.
 
2014-06-17 07:54:10 AM
"I don't know how to have fun and no one else should either"
 
2014-06-17 07:54:21 AM
I've never been to Disney myself but everyone I know who have loved it, I must say I'm not sure which one they went to except that it was not Euro Disney. Same thing for Las Vegas.

Surprised to not see Paris on the list, I've seen quite long lines to visit the Eiffel tower and the Louvre in pictures (Google street view?). I would nonetheless totally spend most of my time in the Louvre  if I ever went to Paris, I'd just stay away from the Mona Lisa which I guess is the main attraction for most tourists.
 
2014-06-17 07:54:25 AM
The Canadian of the Falls isn't much better.

Yes, you have a better view of the Falls.  Then......what?

Clifton Hill?  19 wax museums and tourists.
 
2014-06-17 07:54:27 AM
They did not include the Taj Mahal.   I agree with Hollywood, not with disney, most of the rest I have not been there.
 
2014-06-17 07:54:57 AM
WHA?

Gamble, see a show, eat. That's about it. I can do the latter two in more interesting places where it's not 104°, and toss my money in the garbage anywhere.

BTW, contrary to popular belief, "companionship" is not legal in that part of the state. That apparently isn't enforced, but I can save the price of a plane ticket and do Subby's mom instead.
 
2014-06-17 07:55:00 AM
I didn't think Vegas was all that bad. I was far more disappointed by Philly than I was Vegas.
 
2014-06-17 07:55:10 AM

Jesus Farking Christ: Anyone having problems with Huffington Post on the iPhone where it blocks the ability to switch between pages with an ad?


Yes, tap at the top of the screen instead.
 
2014-06-17 07:55:58 AM
Look for this then avoid

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2014-06-17 07:56:59 AM
Definitely "no" on #2, unless you like seeing nature despoiled by over-development and crappy souvenir shops.  True, there is much more to do on the Canadian side, and the view of the falls is better, but you can wander around the natural setting of the American side, walk to the water's edge on Green Island and see it like it was hundreds of years ago.  Tired of the crowded tourist attraction, I prefer the serenity of the American side.

Also, the American side has the Maid of the Mist...the Canadian side now has the obnoxious Hornblower boats that have sanitized the river experience.
 
2014-06-17 07:57:10 AM
I have been to many places in the Caribbean and by far Nassau is the worst.

Las Vegas sucks because it doesn't have its own flavor.  Everything there is a crappy homage to somewhere better.  It is an adult disneyland created in the desert with really good strip clubs and places to go dune buggying.
 
2014-06-17 07:57:14 AM
Niagara Falls is pretty cool from the Canadian side.

The one they should have included was Plymouth Rock.
 
2014-06-17 07:59:05 AM

buntz: The Canadian of the Falls isn't much better.

Yes, you have a better view of the Falls.  Then......what?

Clifton Hill?  19 wax museums and tourists.



Dinosaur mini-golf.

Afterwards you go to Toronto which is a really great place to visit.
 
2014-06-17 07:59:39 AM
Orlando turns parents into idiots. My normally-sensible wife wants us to do a family trip to Disney World some summer and all I can think is "Florida in July? How about NO."

Seriously, screw Disney. If you've got little kids take 'em to Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire. It's way cheaper, it's not usually stupid hot, it's fairly uncrowded except for the North Conway outlet strip, and there's a lot of other things to do other than watching your wallet get hoovered.
 
2014-06-17 08:02:04 AM
I haven't been to most of these places, but Liberty Island was fun (except the climbing up and down the Statue of Liberty carrying a five-year-old), and the lines didn't seem excessive to me. Perhaps it was off-season?

I'm *from* Dublin, and Temple Bar is indeed a travesty. They issued about three times as many pub licences for that area as the most alcoholic of natives could absorb, and it naturally became a cesspool of stag and hen parties from  most of western Europe.
 
2014-06-17 08:02:36 AM
Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.
 
2014-06-17 08:02:48 AM
I found Dublin in general to be a bit of a bore. Ireland is much more interesting outside the old walls. Though it pains me to say, being of Irish decent, that Scotland was a much better place to visit. Of course, all the Scottish were once Irish anyway, so I guess it works out.

Hollywood is ok, I went to the theater in the morning on a weekday and there were no stupid characters there. It was really calm and quiet. I didn't get to spend a lot of time there or in Beverly Hills but I would go back.

I've never been to Nassau, but Georgetown, Grand Cayman is a popular cruise ship destination and a real let down especially considering how much more the island has to offer if you are willing to sacrifice and stay on a fantastic island for more than a few hours rather than get on a boat with a bunch of cruisers.

Disney and any amusement park is definitely not my cup of tea. Everything is always over priced and under delivering. It's crawling with jerks and either going to be ridiculously hot or pouring rain. So, I'm definitely looking forward to going to Busch Gardens Williamsburg this week since my wife is all-in on amusement parks.

Las Vegas... the first time I went it was amazing. Seeing everything for the first time was really cool. The second time, I was less excited. I started seeing the stuff you miss when you have stars in your eyes. The third time I went I didn't bother gambling, spent a miserable hour at a strip club my buddies wanted to go to, and decided I never need to go back there.

Not on the list: Honolulu. I spent a few weeks there every other year when I was a kid. Even back then it was nothing but sky scrapers and traffic. I haven't been in over a decade but I really have no desire to go back. If you've never been and you think Honolulu (or even Oahu in general) is some sort of relaxed paradise, you will probably be pretty disillusioned. Go to one of the other islands - unless you're on the east coast of the US, then you should go to the Caribbean instead - much closer.
 
2014-06-17 08:02:51 AM

Gulper Eel: Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire.


yessss.... totally equivalent to Disney. Take them once when they're little and cross it off forever.
 
2014-06-17 08:04:00 AM
 
2014-06-17 08:04:37 AM
98% of Las Vegas farking sucks. There, I said it.

/old Vegas is the only decent part
 
2014-06-17 08:06:13 AM

phamwaa: See Rock City! See Ruby Falls!

/See Ruby gets up again!


Came to add this.  Good call.
 
2014-06-17 08:06:24 AM
Need to add that stupid glass walkway over the Grand Canyon

Have not been, but almost all the reviews are bad.  I would rather see it for free and in it's natural state at one of the many overlooks and hiking trails.
 
2014-06-17 08:07:12 AM
And if you're thinking about purchasing a "specialty" cocktail to numb the pain of being at Disney World, you'll have to shell out $8.50 per drink.

Is this a lot? This is pretty much what I'd expect to spend for a cocktail in Seattle. It's a good bit cheaper than most places.
 
2014-06-17 08:07:42 AM

bark_atda_moon: I have been to many places in the Caribbean and by far Nassau is the worst.


This, this and this.

If you're on a cruise that stops over there, stay on the ship and drink.
 
2014-06-17 08:07:42 AM
you're pretty much guaranteed to walk away from Vegas poorer than when you arrived.

WTF indeed. Anyone going to Vegas expecting to come back with more money than they arrived with is an optimistic fool.  You have to pay for all those lights somehow... In fact anyone going on vacation anywhere expecting not to spend money doesn't really understand how life works.

I do have to admit though that I learned something from TFA.  In all my years revolving around the sun, I had never thought of Frankfurt as a destination vacation.  Munich perhaps during Octoberfest but Frankfurt?
 
2014-06-17 08:07:57 AM

MC Slim JB: Niagara Falls is pretty cool from the Canadian side.

The one they should have included was Plymouth Rock.


It's a rock. What did you expect?

Actually, it can also be one of these:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-17 08:08:34 AM

buntz: The Canadian of the Falls isn't much better.

Yes, you have a better view of the Falls.  Then......what?

Clifton Hill?  19 wax museums and tourists.


Niagara on the Lake.  Plenty of good food, good wine, good theater and a cool (ish) fort.
 
2014-06-17 08:10:22 AM
I had a blast in Vegas one of the days I was there.  We piled into a rental car, drove all the way down Las Vegas Blvd until it ended beside the interstate.
We came to a fork in the road:
To the left a paved road to a small collection of trailers.  Years later I found out that this is the closest legal brothel to Las Vegas and is pretty much there so hookers have a place to claim they work.  At the time we assumed it was a small town with a meth-based economy.  Both statements are probably true.

To the right, a nondescript dirt road leading out to the desert.

We turned right.  We saw the grand canyon, the hoover dam, and made it to California.  We were on dirt almost the entire time.  At one point the US Army turned us around and gave us a stern warning.

I assume we are no longer welcome at the Las Vegas Hertz Rental Cars.
 
2014-06-17 08:10:25 AM
No pyramids?


Total list fail.

If you have kids who are evenly passingly interested in Disney movies then the park kicks ass.
 
2014-06-17 08:10:29 AM
Subby's mom's bedroom surprisingly absent.
 
2014-06-17 08:11:11 AM

Elegy: 98% of Las Vegas farking sucks. There, I said it.

/old Vegas is the only decent part


The Secret Garden was pretty cool. Loved the dolphins.
 
2014-06-17 08:11:50 AM
Been to Vegas three times, it was a complete waste every time. There is no way to win at gambling, you may as well just hand your ATM card and PIN number to a bum on the street. As for the shows, the big named ones are sold out months in advance so unless you planned well ahead you'll be left with the crap nobody wants to see and you'll pay top dollar for the privilege.

The "free drinks" you get in the casinos are also a joke, unless you're sitting at a high stakes table betting hundreds of dollars per go you'll be lucky to get one small watered down drink per hour out of them.
 
2014-06-17 08:14:23 AM
I gotta agree with them on Frankfurt. It was basically bombed flat during the war, so there's few historical buildings remaining and there's not much to see unless you're an accountant and want to tour the financial district. On the plus side the big hostel near the train station is exceptionally clean, safe, and well run and they do have a local apple cider called apfelwein which is awesome.

Better options that are not on every tourist's radar are Strasbourg and Frieburg. If you go to Strasbourg avoid the hostel on the Rhine outside of town: too remote and too sterile.
 
2014-06-17 08:15:28 AM

Muta: Niagara on the Lake.  Plenty of good food, good wine, good theater and a cool (ish) fort.


Yes, I know there are things to do at ALL the places listed in the article.
Just playing devil's advocate that for the most part, Canadian Niagara Falls is a boring tourist trap too.

(Did the Whirlpool jet boat tour from Niagara on the Lake last time I was there (last year) and it was the most fun I can remember having in a long time!  #1 suggestion to friends going to Niagara)
 
2014-06-17 08:15:44 AM
Atlantic City should be on this list.  Take away the best parts of Vegas, add Jersey skank, and you've got AC.  Oh, the Casinos all smell like air freshener and loaded up Depends® .
 
2014-06-17 08:15:46 AM

bikerbob59: Subby's mom's bedroom surprisingly absent.


The author is cheap and you know subby's mom is cheap.
 
2014-06-17 08:16:14 AM
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2014-06-17 08:16:25 AM

Joe Peanut: Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.


I hate beaches like that.  This is what a beach is supposed to look like:

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2014-06-17 08:17:12 AM
I still don't understand the appeal of Las Vegas, which is why the last time I was there, I bet on 2/3rds of the roulette table and lost far less than I would have otherwise while drinking for free.  The best show I had seen there was The Amazing Jonathan.  It was off strip, it was $50, and I wasn't expecting much, but it was better than shelling out $100 for some stupid Cirque tripe again.  I've been 4 times now hoping that I missed something amazing.  I didn't.
 
2014-06-17 08:18:00 AM

Gulper Eel: Orlando turns parents into idiots. My normally-sensible wife wants us to do a family trip to Disney World some summer and all I can think is "Florida in July? How about NO."

Seriously, screw Disney. If you've got little kids take 'em to Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire. It's way cheaper, it's not usually stupid hot, it's fairly uncrowded except for the North Conway outlet strip, and there's a lot of other things to do other than watching your wallet get hoovered.


If you can take the time off from work/school, the absolute best time to go to Disney is mid January to early March (before spring break). We went in mid-January. Temps in the low 60s. No lines at all.
 
2014-06-17 08:18:08 AM

Tyrosine: not much to see unless you're an accountant and want to tour the financial district


That's where Boston put their holocaust memorial.

/I'm not writing the jokes, I'm just setting them up.
 
2014-06-17 08:18:34 AM
The biggest complaint they have about Disney World is $2.50 bottles of water(OH NO!)? If they were that desperate to pad the list they could have used something like Mount Rushmore.
 
2014-06-17 08:19:48 AM
I forgot to add:

Loch Ness

I'm conflicted since the drive up there was amazing, our guide was great telling us the history of the area. Once there, I enjoyed walking around the castle ruins. But Loch Ness itself?
On the ride up from Edinburgh we passed about 500 Lochs. Any one of those would have provided the same level of interest. Save your money and don't bother with the boat ride.
 
2014-06-17 08:20:02 AM

bark_atda_moon: I have been to many places in the Caribbean and by far Nassau is the worst.


This.  It was a 4-hour stop on a Caribbean cruise we took a few years back.  Nothing but overpriced t-shirts and crappy tapestry.  But the worst was we couldn't walk 20 paces without being accosted by various women offering to braid my wife and daughter's hair.  I don't think we lasted an hour there before returning to the ship.

Las Vegas sucks because it doesn't have its own flavor.  Everything there is a crappy homage to somewhere better.  It is an adult disneyland created in the desert with really good strip clubs and places to go dune buggying.

Never been there.  Have no desire to.
 
2014-06-17 08:20:33 AM
Hollywood and LA as a whole sucks as a tourist. Vegas is fun for a couple of days though and Gibraltar is just weird.

I agree with Joe Peanut that Waikiki is a little disappointing. There's a whole lot of hotel and not much sand. Still, there's plenty of good restaurants and you're only an hour or so from a lot of great beaches.
 
2014-06-17 08:20:57 AM

QueenMamaBee: I didn't think Vegas was all that bad. I was far more disappointed by Philly than I was Vegas.


Why the hell did you have expectations for Philly?
 
2014-06-17 08:21:33 AM

Bruce Campbell: I still don't understand the appeal of Las Vegas, which is why the last time I was there, I bet on 2/3rds of the roulette table and lost far less than I would have otherwise while drinking for free.  The best show I had seen there was The Amazing Jonathan.  It was off strip, it was $50, and I wasn't expecting much, but it was better than shelling out $100 for some stupid Cirque tripe again.  I've been 4 times now hoping that I missed something amazing.  I didn't.


The rides on top of the stratosphere were are worth it, especially if you do them at night, and especially if you don't like heights.
 
2014-06-17 08:22:22 AM

ReapTheChaos: Been to Vegas three times, it was a complete waste every time. There is no way to win at gambling, you may as well just hand your ATM card and PIN number to a bum on the street. As for the shows, the big named ones are sold out months in advance so unless you planned well ahead you'll be left with the crap nobody wants to see and you'll pay top dollar for the privilege.

The "free drinks" you get in the casinos are also a joke, unless you're sitting at a high stakes table betting hundreds of dollars per go you'll be lucky to get one small watered down drink per hour out of them.


Smithers: Sir, you haven't slept since the casino opened five days ago.
Montgomery Burns: Yeah, well, I've discovered the perfect business: people swarm in, empty their pockets, and scuttle off...
 
2014-06-17 08:22:44 AM

Bruce Campbell: I still don't understand the appeal of Las Vegas, which is why the last time I was there, I bet on 2/3rds of the roulette table and lost far less than I would have otherwise while drinking for free.  The best show I had seen there was The Amazing Jonathan.  It was off strip, it was $50, and I wasn't expecting much, but it was better than shelling out $100 for some stupid Cirque tripe again.  I've been 4 times now hoping that I missed something amazing.  I didn't.


I am not really into gambling, but I have fun there.

People losing winning a ton of money always causes some excitement.

Being able to take a drink anywhere.

The escort "trading cards".
 
2014-06-17 08:24:25 AM
I didn't know Frankfurt was a place people vacation, but I've been. It was OK, I wouldn't exactly plan to go as a destination.

Disney is amazing for kids. As an adult, you'll be surprised at how not impressive it is if you have fond memories as a child

I'll add St Maarten to the places in the Caribbean ruined by cruise ships.

Vegas is fun if you're 20 something and single.
 
2014-06-17 08:25:22 AM

Recoil Therapy: I do have to admit though that I learned something from TFA.  In all my years revolving around the sun, I had never thought of Frankfurt as a destination vacation.  Munich perhaps during Octoberfest but Frankfurt?


Some places in Frankfurt are really nice, like Alt-Sachsenhausen or some suburbs. Don't forget the zoological garden or the "Palmenhaus" (botanical garden). Central Frankfurt areas have the highest crime rate in Germany, so it's no wonder they look like a ghost town at night...

I worked there for a year and i'm lucky i could go back
 
2014-06-17 08:25:33 AM
Obviously written by someone who walks off the plane 20 feet, looks around and makes their decision based on that.

"Touristy" cities are nice.  The attractions act as a good trap for those who lack imagination and a willingness to project their own preconceived notion of what the city is onto their experience.

But you never really know a city until you get ahold of a vehicle and get off of the main drag.

Hollywood?  Yeah, it's part of Los Angeles, the greatest example of "everything at once in a small area" that exists.  If you can't find something interesting between all the studios, Newport Beach, Sunset Strip, Mulholland or the Valley then nothing will.

Las Vegas?  Get off the strip,man.  Dine at a place that only locals would.  Hit a pawn shop,  Put it on a highway and head out of the city to see mountains with snow on them, real actual desert with Joshua trees.  Hike around a bit.
 
2014-06-17 08:26:49 AM

Joe Peanut: Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.


I liked Honolulu, but we had a local guide. You have to think of it as a densely urban city with an ocean view, not as a beach town. Long's Drug Store, seafood with brown rice at a diner, the mall in walking distance of the western end of Waikiki with a Japanese department store: all very interesting. We even bought kimonos at a Japanese vintage-clothing store. And the Bishop museum is very cool.
 
2014-06-17 08:26:49 AM
After looking at the Falls, go to Whirlpool park and see if any bodies are floating around.
If it's really hot out, take a ride on one of the jet boats that run the rapids, prepare to get soaked.
 
2014-06-17 08:27:05 AM
For me, the worst is Pigeon Forge or I as I like to call it the big stretch of butt ugly you have to drive through to get to the Smokies. There really is no good way around it if you're approaching the Smokies from the north. Most of the places on the list are good places to go if you avoid the tourist traps.

Disney is fun if you have kids. If you don't have kids, there are better amusement parks to go to.
 
2014-06-17 08:29:09 AM

liam76: Bruce Campbell: I still don't understand the appeal of Las Vegas, which is why the last time I was there, I bet on 2/3rds of the roulette table and lost far less than I would have otherwise while drinking for free.  The best show I had seen there was The Amazing Jonathan.  It was off strip, it was $50, and I wasn't expecting much, but it was better than shelling out $100 for some stupid Cirque tripe again.  I've been 4 times now hoping that I missed something amazing.  I didn't.

I am not really into gambling, but I have fun there.

People losing winning a ton of money always causes some excitement.

Being able to take a drink anywhere.

The escort "trading cards ".


Oh and to be clear the draw of the trading cardfs is watching how different peopel react to them. Since it was supposed to be more "kid friendly" it makes for some funny scenes.

Skarekrough: Put it on a highway and head out of the city to see mountains with snow on them, real actual desert with Joshua trees. Hike around a bit


That isn't really "vegas", but I get your point. Outside bachleor parties I only go there for a day for cheap flights and check out stuff I can drive to from there.
 
2014-06-17 08:29:33 AM
I don't know. Aren't you better off taking the road last traveled? Here in Costa Rica, tourists come down to hit the beach - where it is hotter than the hubs of hell, petty theft is rampant and hospitality is grossly over priced. If you come up to the Lake Arenal region (which not many do), it's cooler, less rainy and there's plenty of good exploring and activities to engage in that won't set you back too badly.

Vegas depresses the shiat out of me. But, we were there in April for my step-daughter's wedding and managed to have a little fun. Met two of the guys from Animal Planet's 'Pit Boss' show. That was more entertaining than the casinos.
 
2014-06-17 08:29:38 AM

slave2grind: Stone Mountain, Ga.
Nuff said.


What!  I liked Stone Mountain!

I was twelve.
 
2014-06-17 08:31:19 AM
I've been to Gibraltar and it was pretty cool.  I was on my honeymoon so I might have been seeing it through rose colored glasses.

I live in Florida and own a condo next to Disney so we go there quite a lot.  And as it has been mentioned above, you have to have a suspension of disbelief and go with the flow.  If you are trying to watch your money on a vacation to Orlando you are doing it wrong.
 
2014-06-17 08:31:22 AM
Expecting some place to look like it is in your head can be disappointing? Good to know.
 
2014-06-17 08:32:19 AM

rev. dave: They did not include the Taj Mahal.


What the hell are you talking about?


thebluesmobile.com

Taj Mahal rocks. Well worth seeing.

Aloha, mofo.
 
2014-06-17 08:32:50 AM
I would disagree partly with the assessment of Niagara Falls, NY.  While the view of the falls IS better from the Canadian side, the experiences on each side are different - over in Canada it's more about seeing them.  On the AMERICAN side you actually get right up under them - Cave of the Winds is by far the best way to get a close up feeling for the falls, so long as you don't mind getting wet.

Both sides are very very good for experiencing the falls, it just comes down to different experiences.
 
2014-06-17 08:32:51 AM
LA is a cool city, far more to do than the hour of stuff available in Hollywood. Same thing with Nassau, there are nice beaches if go and stay instead of just hitting it on a cruise ship. Disney is awesome if you go with someone who knows everything about it and if you love rides. Finally, I'm ashamed to admit I enjoyed a night at Temple bar. Probably the most drunk I was in Dublin, the people there were nice enough for me. I got a valuable warning about avoiding cocaine from the red light district in Amsterdam.
 
2014-06-17 08:33:03 AM
Most awesome for me?  St Lucia.  Wow what an awesome and affordable place
 
2014-06-17 08:33:04 AM

ReapTheChaos: Been to Vegas three times, it was a complete waste every time.


Only went once, when I was a kid in the 70's. Parents dragged my sister and me to Caesar's to see Steve & Eydie or something. Howard Cosell was at the next table over.

That was the golden age. I can't imagine going back.
 
2014-06-17 08:33:16 AM

Copperbelly watersnake: For me, the worst is Pigeon Forge or I as I like to call it the big stretch of butt ugly you have to drive through to get to the Smokies. There really is no good way around it if you're approaching the Smokies from the north. Most of the places on the list are good places to go if you avoid the tourist traps.

Disney is fun if you have kids. If you don't have kids, there are better amusement parks to go to.


Go through Maryville and Townsend; takes you straight to Gatlinburg along scenic Old State Highway 73 and avoids Pigeon Forge. Takes a bitl longer, but it's a gorgeous drive.
 
2014-06-17 08:33:18 AM
If you go somewhere looking to be entertained by something UNKNOWN yet to you, you probably won't find it.

If you have a targeted activity set in your mind, like fishing, once you get to that somewhere, you will probably find it.
 
2014-06-17 08:34:07 AM

mbillips: sotua: Came for Hollywood. Leaving satisfied.

I once visited LA with a French colleague who had never been to the USA. He was adamant that we should go to Hollywood. No amount of reasoning convinced him, so... That's how we wasted our Sunday abroad, looking at dusty stars, getting harassed for money, and oggling exotic dancer mannequins for the novelty of it. Though the Little Devil burgers and craft beer were awesome... More so on expense account.

The following weekend I ditched French dude and flew to SF to meet a friend. Now THAT was a proper weekend abroad.

This. Hollywood and Vine is as lame and shabby as Gatlinburg, TN. Plenty of interesting film-industry tourism in LA, but none of it's in Hollywood.


Yeah. I went to LA when I was a teen. People asked me about it and my answer was "plastic." I hated LA. There are many other cool places to visit in CA. Spend time there.
 
2014-06-17 08:34:20 AM

pkellmey: Expecting some place to look like it is in your head can be disappointing? Good to know.


That's why it's great living in Jersey.  People expect it to be all toxic waste dumps and dead mobsters and are surprised to find out it's not like that........mostly.
 
2014-06-17 08:35:10 AM

Land Ark: On the ride up from Edinburgh we passed about 500 Lochs. Any one of those would have provided the same level of interest.


And the same level of monsters.
 
2014-06-17 08:35:35 AM

buntz: Muta: Niagara on the Lake.  Plenty of good food, good wine, good theater and a cool (ish) fort.

Yes, I know there are things to do at ALL the places listed in the article.
Just playing devil's advocate that for the most part, Canadian Niagara Falls is a boring tourist trap too.

(Did the Whirlpool jet boat tour from Niagara on the Lake last time I was there (last year) and it was the most fun I can remember having in a long time!  #1 suggestion to friends going to Niagara)


Exactly right. Been to niagara a few times now and the jet boat is the best thing to do.
 
2014-06-17 08:35:58 AM

stupiddream: I've been to Gibraltar and it was pretty cool.  I was on my honeymoon so I might have been seeing it through rose colored glasses.

I live in Florida and own a condo next to Disney so we go there quite a lot.  And as it has been mentioned above, you have to have a suspension of disbelief and go with the flow.  If you are trying to watch your money on a vacation to Orlando you are doing it wrong.


The only time I drive up to Orlando (from Sarasota) is to see the Magic, and they sucked this year. And last. But it's still  a fun trip and I still wear my Magic ball cap pretty much everywhere I go. Wouldn't go to Disney or Universal or that Harry Potter dump if a gun was held to my head. Nuke the entire town, just leave the Amway Center.
 
2014-06-17 08:36:42 AM

Skarekrough: Las Vegas?  Get off the strip,man.  Dine at a place that only locals would.  Hit a pawn shop,  Put it on a highway and head out of the city to see mountains with snow on them, real actual desert with Joshua trees.  Hike around a bit.


THIS!

I've been to Vegas three times.  Only once did I gamble, and I actually won some cash, so, hooray.
But all the real fun Vegas has to offer is NOT on the strip.  Get out to the desert, rent some dune buggies, then do the zip line course.  The next day head to the speedway and spend the morning doing laps in a Lamborghini Murcielago.  Get out that evening and do some desert hiking.  Vegas is a great town if you know where to look.

And Frankfurt is a layover city, or a work trip.  That's all.  No one vacations to Frankfurt.
 
2014-06-17 08:37:37 AM
Lonely Planet guides are great for finding the off the beaten path places. My wife and I have found a lot of great spots we never would have known existed without them.
 
2014-06-17 08:38:18 AM
If the author's issue with Liberty Island is having to wait in line, then you might as well list every major tourist attraction in every city in the world.
 
2014-06-17 08:38:32 AM

liam76: That isn't really "vegas", but I get your point. Outside bachleor parties I only go there for a day for cheap flights and check out stuff I can drive to from there


For me it put the whole place in perspective.  The notion that there was a huge chunk of land, just like this hunk of desert, and someone had the balls to say "You know what we could do with this?"

Then you get into the history of it, the mob, the Rat Pack.  The old part of the strip and the general decline of it and knowing where it came from and seeing evolution in its process.

To me that puts much of the rest of it in perspective.

If you just sit inside the Luxor and go "well.....that's it" then you won't get 1/10000th of what the city is all about.

I used to go out for CES for work.  One time the wife came out for a day before we went to L.A. to see family.  In the 20 hours she was there we ate the most amazing meal, saw Cirque, saw no less than the interior of a dozen different casinos to admire the gandeur, checked out rock and roll history at the Hard Rock and got our pictures taken with Elvis, and watched a bunch of lions.

In under 20 hours....six of which we spent sleeping.
 
2014-06-17 08:39:30 AM

WhiskeyBoy: And Frankfurt is a layover city, or a work trip. That's all. No one vacations to Frankfurt.


I've wanted to go there quite a bit, but that's because the German prog band Sylvan plays there a lot and I'd like to see them live once before they finally break up.

www.sylvan.de  -- farking great band
 
2014-06-17 08:39:53 AM

CrazedHatter: I would disagree partly with the assessment of Niagara Falls, NY.  While the view of the falls IS better from the Canadian side, the experiences on each side are different - over in Canada it's more about seeing them.  On the AMERICAN side you actually get right up under them - Cave of the Winds is by far the best way to get a close up feeling for the falls, so long as you don't mind getting wet.

Both sides are very very good for experiencing the falls, it just comes down to different experiences.


The canadian side has those caves too. Get right into the spray if thats what youre into.
 
2014-06-17 08:40:00 AM

Cluckity: Most people don't vacation to relax or enjoy themselves. They just want pictures to prove they were there.


Then they are doing it wrong.
 
2014-06-17 08:40:01 AM
Completely agree with Nassau. After about 30 minutes, you couldn't get me out of that shiathole fast enough
 
2014-06-17 08:41:49 AM

Land Ark: I forgot to add:

Loch Ness

I'm conflicted since the drive up there was amazing, our guide was great telling us the history of the area. Once there, I enjoyed walking around the castle ruins. But Loch Ness itself?
On the ride up from Edinburgh we passed about 500 Lochs. Any one of those would have provided the same level of interest. Save your money and don't bother with the boat ride.


I drove along the Loch Ness a few years back and saw Nessie. Don't go with a guide. Nessie doesn't come out for groups. That goes for everywhere. Guides are a waste of money, except perhaps when trekking through jungles.
 
2014-06-17 08:42:22 AM
Disney World made the list? Its ok but its for kids and large groups of gay men. If you take your kids and expect it to drain your bank account then its ok, at least the kids have a really good time. For an added bonus go on gay-days and you will be highly entertained by all the antics around you. We have some awesome footage of conga lines and impromptu dance shows.
 
2014-06-17 08:45:07 AM
"no"

Trust me Subby, Temple Bar is a dump. €7 for a pint of beer. My hole!

Anyone with sense avoids it, the only Irish you'll find there will be the ruddy-faced country boys, who've never been to Dublin, up for the big GAA match.
 
2014-06-17 08:48:58 AM
After reading this thread I'll check Nassau off the list.  Still want to get to the Bahamas sometime, though.
 
2014-06-17 08:49:05 AM

mbillips: Joe Peanut: Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.

I liked Honolulu, but we had a local guide. You have to think of it as a densely urban city with an ocean view, not as a beach town.


I'm originally from Rio de Janeiro.  A much larger city than Honolulu, also by the beach.  it doesn't have the same tourist trap feel of Honolulu.  Signs for Vegas-type shows everywhere, you must go through a hotel to access the beach, and god forbid, lounge singers!
 
2014-06-17 08:49:38 AM

orclover: Disney World made the list? Its ok but its for ... large groups of gay men.


F*ck you with an AIDS-infected dick.

Disney World made the list? Its ok but its for ... large groups of gay mencrazy-assed single Xian fundie youth church groups and their lame-assed Xian rock bands.

FTFY.
 
2014-06-17 08:50:30 AM

FLMountainMan: QueenMamaBee: I didn't think Vegas was all that bad. I was far more disappointed by Philly than I was Vegas.

Why the hell did you have expectations for Philly?


South St. was great until the Zipperhead moved around the corner and got renamed. After that, all that's left worth going to is Armed & Dangerous. Other than that, the goth club scene is pretty much all that's left.
 
2014-06-17 08:51:09 AM

Fritriac: Recoil Therapy: I do have to admit though that I learned something from TFA.  In all my years revolving around the sun, I had never thought of Frankfurt as a destination vacation.  Munich perhaps during Octoberfest but Frankfurt?

Some places in Frankfurt are really nice, like Alt-Sachsenhausen or some suburbs. Don't forget the zoological garden or the "Palmenhaus" (botanical garden). Central Frankfurt areas have the highest crime rate in Germany, so it's no wonder they look like a ghost town at night...

I worked there for a year and i'm lucky i could go back


Right but you can say something similar about most any other decent sized city in the world.  I know around here (Cincinnati) we've got a really good zoo, one of the better genealogical libraries outside of Utah,  neighborhoods filled with homes built back when people cared about their work & built houses to last 100+ years, and of course neighborhoods that you don't want to venture into in anything less than a loaded up main battle tank.

Unless an area has a specific historical or geographic feature that draws people, it's hard to see it as a destination.  In the list, Niagara Falls makes sense as those falls are pretty unique.  Likewise Dublin does too for the historical context for many.  It was just odd seeing a pretty generic large city without anything really special to make it stand out be on the list.  It is after all supposed to be a list of destinations, & much like Cincinnati, it seems that the only reason that many people go to Frankfurt is to switch planes & then go somewhere else.
 
2014-06-17 08:52:03 AM

Muta: buntz: The Canadian of the Falls isn't much better.

Yes, you have a better view of the Falls.  Then......what?

Clifton Hill?  19 wax museums and tourists.

Niagara on the Lake. Plenty of good food, good wine, good theater and a cool (ish) fort.


Agree.  Visit the falls but spend most of your time in NotL.  Avoid Clifton Hill as if there were zombies lurking there.

/ Bring a bike.
// Drink ice wine slushies and eat lobster poutine
/// Repeat
 
2014-06-17 08:52:10 AM
I've heard that Kabul is a nice winter destination.
 
2014-06-17 08:52:46 AM

MC Slim JB: Niagara Falls is pretty cool from the Canadian side.


No, it isn't.  Got to spend a couple of days there.  It is a cheap tourist trap town.  And since the town reaches all the way to the falls themselves, the falls look human-made. Part of the urban planing.
 
2014-06-17 08:54:04 AM
I have seen game shows that give away "exciting ... breathtaking ... whirlwind" vacations to spots like Houston, Texas.

Houston, Texas?  They don't even have Astroworld anymore!  Every place you go in Houston looks like every other crappy place in Houston.  It's like a bad dream, with traffic.
 
2014-06-17 08:55:44 AM
Can we add the New Orlean's French Quarter and the whole of Cancun to that list?
 
2014-06-17 08:56:00 AM

opiumpoopy: Tr0mBoNe: Any Magnetic Hill.

Non-magnetic hill with added gravity?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiehallion_experiment


What a harebrained experiment! I Love it!
 
2014-06-17 08:56:49 AM

Joe Peanut: MC Slim JB: Niagara Falls is pretty cool from the Canadian side.

No, it isn't.  Got to spend a couple of days there.  It is a cheap tourist trap town.  And since the town reaches all the way to the falls themselves, the falls look human-made. Part of the urban planing.


Wait 5,000 years for the falls to be outside the current city limits.
 
2014-06-17 08:58:04 AM

Joe Peanut: Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.


yup. there aren't enough words to explain how much better the big island is

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WhiskeyBoy: But all the real fun Vegas has to offer is NOT on the strip.


i dunno, it's pretty fun to get crunk, play war at the wynn, and go to hash house a go go and eat till you pass out
 
2014-06-17 08:58:08 AM
Any place that requires you to spend more time waiting than you will enjoying what you just waited for, is not worth it.  Vacation time is precious, especially for Americans.  Not like those Euros that have a holiday every other week.
 
2014-06-17 08:58:12 AM
I had a great time in Vegas!  We stayed in Summerlin and hit up a bunch of hiking in the canyons around town, and even drove out to Zion (it's a farkin' hike! but it's cool).  Restaurants were pretty good.  Didn't see the strip at all.
 
2014-06-17 08:59:47 AM

Toy Boat: I have seen game shows that give away "exciting ... breathtaking ... whirlwind" vacations to spots like Houston, Texas.

Houston, Texas?  They don't even have Astroworld anymore!  Every place you go in Houston looks like every other crappy place in Houston.  It's like a bad dream, with traffic.



I hear Dallas, Arlington, and San Antonio are worth going to.  I have been to Houston and Galveston.  Galveston is only interesting because a lot of houses are built on stilts.  Houston doesn't even have that going for it.
 
2014-06-17 09:01:34 AM
DH and I were driving down Sunset Blvd and I mentioned that I expected the streets to be paved with gold and he responded that looking at it now, he was surprised they were paved at all.
 
2014-06-17 09:03:07 AM
I kind of agree with Vegas, but I'm generally too uptight to gamble, and the big vegas style shows aren't really my thing.  It IS a great gateway to the Desert though, with world class hiking and camping just hours away, and when you come back to civilization, you can hit a shower, eat tons of cheap food and hit a nudie bar before heading home.
 
2014-06-17 09:04:21 AM

WhiskeyBoy: And Frankfurt is a layover city, or a work trip. That's all. No one vacations to Frankfurt.


even the airport is shiate.
 
2014-06-17 09:04:31 AM
also i would rather vacation at a septic tank than branson, missouri
 
2014-06-17 09:05:52 AM
I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?
 
2014-06-17 09:06:18 AM

CrazedHatter: I would disagree partly with the assessment of Niagara Falls, NY.  While the view of the falls IS better from the Canadian side, the experiences on each side are different - over in Canada it's more about seeing them.  On the AMERICAN side you actually get right up under them - Cave of the Winds is by far the best way to get a close up feeling for the falls, so long as you don't mind getting wet.

Both sides are very very good for experiencing the falls, it just comes down to different experiences.


The view from the state park is pretty stunning and the park itself is very nice.  Its worth a visit even if you plan on spending most of your time in Canada.  But lets not kid ourselves........NF, NY sucks.  It is a scary dump.  Maybe if the Bills move there it might change things?
 
2014-06-17 09:06:35 AM

Jamieboy: Gibraltar is a total rip.  But if you are in the neighborhood, by all means give it a look.  Same for the Temple Bar in Dublin.  Just keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your junk in both places.


p.gr-assets.com
 
2014-06-17 09:10:44 AM
A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!
 
2014-06-17 09:12:20 AM
Leaning tower of Pisa.

I've lived in Italy and have seen most all there is to see, and Pisa is at the very bottom of the list.
 
2014-06-17 09:12:32 AM

Land Ark: Grand Cayman is a popular cruise ship destination and a real let down especially considering how much more the island has to offer if you are willing to sacrifice and stay on a fantastic island for more than a few hours rather than get on a boat with a bunch of cruisers.


Grand Cayman is just ok, but the beach/water was really great.  Sting Ray city though... I felt like a floating mark being body-checked by rubber suited kaiju.


/I fed those bastards no fish.
 
2014-06-17 09:13:18 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


The Taj was fantastic. best to go at near sunset.
 
2014-06-17 09:13:34 AM

sprawl15: Joe Peanut: Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.

yup. there aren't enough words to explain how much better the big island is


Absolutely.  For me Honolulu is a speed-bump on my way to the Big Island.
 
2014-06-17 09:13:45 AM

Skarekrough: But you never really know a city until you get ahold of a vehicle and get off of the main drag.


This.  I guess I'm kind of weird like this, but part of what I enjoy most is just seeing how people in far-off lands live.  I've been to Paris, and did the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Sacre Coeur, etc, but I think the part I enjoyed most was just wandering around the city and seeing the everyday things that Parisians do.  Same is true of London (didn't go to South London though), Munich, Edinburgh, etc.  One thing that I enjoy doing that I doubt anyone else does is just visiting foreign supermarkets - I *love* the little freewheeling buggies they have in many English supermarkets that just don't seem to exist in the U.S.. :-)

There are certainly entertaining things to do and see that are marketed towards tourists in every place, but it's fascinating to see how those who live there just go about their lives, and it really doesn't cost anything but your time.
 
2014-06-17 09:13:49 AM

learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?


that depends, do you like hiking?  Great little canyons a short drive outside of town.
 
2014-06-17 09:14:58 AM

Gulper Eel: Orlando turns parents into idiots. My normally-sensible wife wants us to do a family trip to Disney World some summer and all I can think is "Florida in July? How about NO."

Seriously, screw Disney. If you've got little kids take 'em to Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire. It's way cheaper, it's not usually stupid hot, it's fairly uncrowded except for the North Conway outlet strip, and there's a lot of other things to do other than watching your wallet get hoovered.


Story Land made Parent's top ten amusement parks for kids recently so it might get more crowded. We're now going to go the next time we're up that way.

/however, I think Disney is pretty awesome.
 
2014-06-17 09:15:13 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".


Berlin is by far the best city I have ever been to.  Amsterdam is a close second.
 
2014-06-17 09:15:33 AM
Nassau is a GREAT place to stay. Just GTFO of the where the cruise ships dock. There's a great Indian restaurant at the edge of downtown and Arawak Cay has great restaurants (it's where locals go out for food).

Avoid going over the hill after dark
 
2014-06-17 09:16:46 AM

learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?


You need gambling tips, or what?  I assume you're staying on the strip.  You can't really get into any trouble unless you get violent.  If you're gambling the only rule is never bet what you can't afford to lose.  Make a limit for the week and each day and stick to it and you'll be fine.  At some point, it's nice to walk the strip.  The timing won't work out for all of these but the fountains in front of Bellagio, the volcano at Mirage and the pirate attack at Treasure Island are all little outdoor shows that are fun to catch if you're in the vicinity or walking by.  Many of the casinos are pimp, but you have to check out the entrance to Venitian and some of the inside, and Bellagio, Cesars and Aria are pretty damn nice inside too.  Drinks are free if you're gambling, if you want cheap drinks hit up any of those outdoor bars on the strip by the casinos I just mentioned.  They still have the margarita by the yard place too if you want to be that guy.
 
2014-06-17 09:16:50 AM

LemSkroob: Leaning tower of Pisa.

I've lived in Italy and have seen most all there is to see, and Pisa is at the very bottom of the list.


This.  What a terrible place.  I would also add that if you are not a big museum person Florence sucks.
 
2014-06-17 09:16:59 AM

mekkab: Sting Ray city though... I felt like a floating mark being body-checked by rubber suited kaiju.


I don't know why, but I enjoyed the hell out of that.   For some reason being molested by stingrays is a lot better than it sounds.
 
2014-06-17 09:17:14 AM

mekkab: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

that depends, do you like hiking?  Great little canyons a short drive outside of town.


I'm not into hiking to much, but I am and amateur photographer...I'm trying to find some out of the way place great for shooting.
 
2014-06-17 09:18:23 AM

buntz: The Canadian of the Falls isn't much better.

Yes, you have a better view of the Falls.  Then......what?

Clifton Hill?  19 wax museums and tourists.


I came to say the same thing. If you just want to see the falls you can go on a boat trip on either side. The rest is just touristy stuff. Canada Niagara Falls is only superior if you're under 21 and want to drink/gamble.
 
2014-06-17 09:18:32 AM
If you don't like to Play, don't friggin' go to Vegas! I've gone 2x a year for the last 10yrs and will be there again next month. Never seen a Show or anything like that, not interested. Grand Canyon? You fly over it on the way in, it's a big Hole in the ground. I've seen Quarries before Big Whoop! Since my 2nd trip out I always get a car and spend all day either Downtown or at different Off-Strip casinos where the table minimums are lower and the buffets are almost 1/2 of what the Tourists pay stuck on the strip. That's where you find the people that are here To play. 1st time I sat at a table for like 4hrs and commented that I just Had to get up, an older woman called me a Rookie! Damn! Players know what the odds are on a given game, we take a certain Bankroll for those activities. It's Adult Entertainment with a cost like any other, you have a Win Goal and a Loss Limit. Simple. I sunk my money into a Boat once, never do that again. I still have Fun Gambling in LV and an occasional drive up to AC for a couple days. I don't gamble at home, no desire to. Going Away to Stay and Play is the whole thing.
 
2014-06-17 09:18:50 AM
Vegas is a lot of fun, but it's not cool at all.  That's something you have to accept.  It's a corny adult Disneyland and it's best suited to people in shiny shirts and leased BMWs from LA suburbs who want to preen in a club that is identical to the clubs they have at home, but costs 3 times as much.

If you're the kind of person who loves places like Austin, then you're probably going to laugh at Vegas.  They do have that pinball hall of fame though.
 
2014-06-17 09:20:24 AM
wsupfoo2:
Disney is amazing for kids. As an adult, you'll be surprised at how not impressive it is if you have fond memories as a child


I used to go frequently as a kid. As an adult, it is tempting to go back to see the place again, but at the same time, i'm sure i'd just be pissed off at the crowding (that i didnt take care to notice as a kid), and even more pissed off at all the rides they have removed or changed.
 
2014-06-17 09:21:02 AM

FLMountainMan: QueenMamaBee: I didn't think Vegas was all that bad. I was far more disappointed by Philly than I was Vegas.

Why the hell did you have expectations for Philly?


The friend I went to visit is from Philly and she was talking it up like we were gonna have a blast and the city was SO great. What a liar she turned out to be. Cheesesteak was good, the city sucked.
 
2014-06-17 09:22:17 AM

EasilyDistracted: Definitely "no" on #2, unless you like seeing nature despoiled by over-development and crappy souvenir shops.  True, there is much more to do on the Canadian side, and the view of the falls is better, but you can wander around the natural setting of the American side, walk to the water's edge on Green Island and see it like it was hundreds of years ago.  Tired of the crowded tourist attraction, I prefer the serenity of the American side.

Also, the American side has the Maid of the Mist...the Canadian side now has the obnoxious Hornblower boats that have sanitized the river experience.



This x1000

bark_atda_moon: Afterwards you go to Toronto which is a really great place to visit.


Also, this

My reccomendation for a Niagra Falls weekend trip is to hit the American Falls in the morning and walk around there for a few hours, then hit the Canadian side real quick to get a few pictures for a better (albeit more crowded and artificial) view. Then drive up to Toronto and spend the rest of your weekend there.
 
2014-06-17 09:22:33 AM

cgremlin: Skarekrough: But you never really know a city until you get ahold of a vehicle and get off of the main drag.

This.  I guess I'm kind of weird like this, but part of what I enjoy most is just seeing how people in far-off lands live.  I've been to Paris, and did the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Sacre Coeur, etc, but I think the part I enjoyed most was just wandering around the city and seeing the everyday things that Parisians do.  Same is true of London (didn't go to South London though), Munich, Edinburgh, etc.  One thing that I enjoy doing that I doubt anyone else does is just visiting foreign supermarkets - I *love* the little freewheeling buggies they have in many English supermarkets that just don't seem to exist in the U.S.. :-)

There are certainly entertaining things to do and see that are marketed towards tourists in every place, but it's fascinating to see how those who live there just go about their lives, and it really doesn't cost anything but your time.


I love going to the supermarket in Europe.  The prices are super-cheap and often the quality of meat and cheese is outstanding compared to what we're used to in an average supermarket.  I've gotten bread, cured meats, and cheese and lived off of that for several days.  It's a great way to eat cheap abroad.  That and the booze is so cheap too.
 
2014-06-17 09:22:47 AM

learn2fly: mekkab: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

that depends, do you like hiking?  Great little canyons a short drive outside of town.

I'm not into hiking to much, but I am and amateur photographer...I'm trying to find some out of the way place great for shooting.


Red Rock Canyon is very close, Hoover dam is only about an hour.  You can rent a car and go to both, we did that years back.  There are wild burrows at Red rock.  They sell helicopter rides down to hoover dam also if you want to get some aerial pictures.
 
2014-06-17 09:23:34 AM

learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?



Dune Buggy riding is great.  Make sure you sign up for an hour or more.  We did 1/2 hour and that was not nearly enough time.

Strip clubs will give you a free ride there, but make sure you have enough to get home.  The drinks are beyond outrageous.  Its $17 for a rail rum and coke and $15 per beer.

I went to Craft Steak, the French restaurant at the Paris, and by far the best food I had was at the Popeyes chicken in the Excaliber.
 
2014-06-17 09:24:21 AM
$2.50 bottles of water is the biggest complaint against Disney?  I've seen that price at gas stations on the side of the highway.  Disneyworld evokes happy childhood memories, highway gas stations evoke memories of filthy bathrooms.
 
2014-06-17 09:24:40 AM

Rapmaster2000: Vegas is a lot of fun, but it's not cool at all.  That's something you have to accept.  It's a corny adult Disneyland and it's best suited to people in shiny shirts and leased BMWs from LA suburbs who want to preen in a club that is identical to the clubs they have at home, but costs 3 times as much.

If you're the kind of person who loves places like Austin, then you're probably going to laugh at Vegas.  They do have that pinball hall of fame though.


I love Vegas but it's starting to lose the luster for me now that flights aren't cheap any more and there are so many casinos closer to home.  Fun place to party but it isn't really offering anything I can't get someplace here for much cheaper.
 
2014-06-17 09:24:48 AM

Born_Again_Bavarian: LemSkroob: Leaning tower of Pisa.

I've lived in Italy and have seen most all there is to see, and Pisa is at the very bottom of the list.

This.  What a terrible place.  I would also add that if you are not a big museum person Florence sucks.


Florence is where i lived, and while it is big on museum stuff, if that isnt your bag, there are literally 1,000 other historical buildings and sites to see. And it that still isnt your thing, there is always just chilling in a piazza with a coffee, of which there are dozens of (piazzas, that is).

Pisa is basically a 3rd rate city with a train station a long walk away from its main attraction, with not much in between.

Florence can lose half its landmarks and still be a destination. Pisa only has one thing going, and thats only impressive because of its accidental situation. Architecturally, the tower and Duomo are fine, but there are better examples of their styles within Tuscany alone.
 
2014-06-17 09:24:54 AM
I've always considered Hollywood to be a neighborhood that some of my friends live in.  Whenever I go to visit, we don't go to whatever these tourist traps are.  Why would I go to a tourist trap?  I've lived in Atlanta for 14 years and I've never gone to the World of Coke.
 
2014-06-17 09:24:57 AM

Carn: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

You need gambling tips, or what?  I assume you're staying on the strip.  You can't really get into any trouble unless you get violent.  If you're gambling the only rule is never bet what you can't afford to lose.  Make a limit for the week and each day and stick to it and you'll be fine.  At some point, it's nice to walk the strip.  The timing won't work out for all of these but the fountains in front of Bellagio, the volcano at Mirage and the pirate attack at Treasure Island are all little outdoor shows that are fun to catch if you're in the vicinity or walking by.  Many of the casinos are pimp, but you have to check out the entrance to Venitian and some of the inside, and Bellagio, Cesars and Aria are pretty damn nice inside too.  Drinks are free if you're gambling, if you want cheap drinks hit up any of those outdoor bars on the strip by the casinos I just mentioned.  They still have the margarita by the yard place too if you want to be that guy.


I thought vegas law required you to be that guy the first time there...
 
2014-06-17 09:26:04 AM

FLMountainMan: QueenMamaBee: I didn't think Vegas was all that bad. I was far more disappointed by Philly than I was Vegas.

Why the hell did you have expectations for Philly?


There's a lot of good history in Philadelphia. The Franklin Institute of Science alone is worth the trip
 
2014-06-17 09:28:41 AM

Carn: Rapmaster2000: Vegas is a lot of fun, but it's not cool at all.  That's something you have to accept.  It's a corny adult Disneyland and it's best suited to people in shiny shirts and leased BMWs from LA suburbs who want to preen in a club that is identical to the clubs they have at home, but costs 3 times as much.

If you're the kind of person who loves places like Austin, then you're probably going to laugh at Vegas.  They do have that pinball hall of fame though.

I love Vegas but it's starting to lose the luster for me now that flights aren't cheap any more and there are so many casinos closer to home.  Fun place to party but it isn't really offering anything I can't get someplace here for much cheaper.


I don't really gamble so that part of Vegas never worked for me so all that I have to love is over-the-top tackiness.  I like places downtown and older strip places like the Flamingo.  I could really give a damn about Planet Hollywood or those Excalibur like places that were built in Vegas' "family-friendly" phase.

I used to dig the Barbary Coast too because it was young, grungy, and raucous.  I think that's gone now.

/also slots-o-fun
 
2014-06-17 09:30:30 AM
I've finally learned, embarrassingly late in life, that the purpose of HuffPo articles like this is to generate the maximum number of hits from Fark-like web sites.
 
2014-06-17 09:30:59 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Antigua, Guatemala.  All the amazing architecture, a cool backstory, wonderful people, amazing restaurants, volcanoes you can climb to the (active) crater, and hardly any tourists at all.  Imagine walking around the earthquake ruins of a Spanish gothic cathedral, with NOBODY else there.
 
2014-06-17 09:32:18 AM

bark_atda_moon:  I have been to Houston and Galveston.  Galveston is only interesting because a lot of houses are built on stilts.


Don't forget, Galveston also has a mud beach that is usually covered by forty yards of seaweed.
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Not much of a beach.  Just where the ocean meets the land.

This, dear reader, is a beach
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Destin, Florida
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\\pretty busy during the summer months
\\\head there in the off-season
\\\\or, keep heading east
\\not as far as Panama City, though
// slashies are to commemorate the anniversary of the slow white Bronco ride
 
2014-06-17 09:33:12 AM

liam76: Carn: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

You need gambling tips, or what?  I assume you're staying on the strip.  You can't really get into any trouble unless you get violent.  If you're gambling the only rule is never bet what you can't afford to lose.  Make a limit for the week and each day and stick to it and you'll be fine.  At some point, it's nice to walk the strip.  The timing won't work out for all of these but the fountains in front of Bellagio, the volcano at Mirage and the pirate attack at Treasure Island are all little outdoor shows that are fun to catch if you're in the vicinity or walking by.  Many of the casinos are pimp, but you have to check out the entrance to Venitian and some of the inside, and Bellagio, Cesars and Aria are pretty damn nice inside too.  Drinks are free if you're gambling, if you want cheap drinks hit up any of those outdoor bars on the strip by the casinos I just mentioned.  They still have the margarita by the yard place too if you want to be that guy.

I thought vegas law required you to be that guy the first time there...


I think it's recommended but they won't deport you if you stick to giant well drinks.
 
2014-06-17 09:34:07 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Tikal, Guatemala.  Go there on a weekday, take the first min-van from your hotel that will get you there ~6am, make a bee-line for the grand plaza.  You'll likely be the only one there.  I had breakfast at the top of the pyramid, there was no one around, and I heard nothing but howler monkeys and parrots.  As impressive as the place looks now I imagined how majestic, colorful and vibrant it must have been in it's heyday.

By 10am the tour buses started rolling in.
 
2014-06-17 09:36:18 AM

talkertopc: Surprised to not see Paris on the list, I've seen quite long lines to visit the Eiffel tower and the Louvre in pictures (Google street view?). I would nonetheless totally spend most of my time in the Louvre if I ever went to Paris, I'd just stay away from the Mona Lisa which I guess is the main attraction for most tourists.


The lines go quickly and are longer at different times of the day.
Also, I wasn't impressed with the Louvre. In my opinion, the only notable things to see in it are the Mona Lisa and Venus de Milo, the rest of it is like any other museum in a major city. If you want artwork by notable artists, visit the Musee D'Orsay. I was in heaven there as it featured some of my favourite artists.
 
2014-06-17 09:36:36 AM

Toy Boat: bark_atda_moon:  I have been to Houston and Galveston.  Galveston is only interesting because a lot of houses are built on stilts.

Don't forget, Galveston also has a mud beach that is usually covered by forty yards of seaweed.
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Not much of a beach.  Just where the ocean meets the land.

This, dear reader, is a beach
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Destin, Florida
\sugar white sand, blue-green waters
\\pretty busy during the summer months
\\\head there in the off-season
\\\\or, keep heading east
\\not as far as Panama City, though
// slashies are to commemorate the anniversary of the slow white Bronco ride


Yeah, Galveston blew me away with its crappiness.  It's about as pleasant as Chicago Heights, IL, but on a beach.

Grayton Beach is my favorite beach in the panhandle area.
 
2014-06-17 09:37:32 AM

bark_atda_moon: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

Berlin is by far the best city I have ever been to.  Amsterdam is a close second.


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All I can think of when I hear "Berlin".

I loved Amsterdam.  I wish I would have gotten to spend more time there.

I am also a big fan of Cuzco, Peru.  It's not really a destination as such, it's more of the setting off point for  the highland part of Peru.  It's all tiny hotels, some cathedrals and storefronts where you can book trips to Machu Piccu, horseback tours of the sacred valley and month long hikes on the Inca trail.  It's like a freaking D+D villiage in Spanish, and with guinea pigs thrown in.  And some purple drink that was pretty good.
 
2014-06-17 09:39:06 AM

Rapmaster2000: Carn: Rapmaster2000: Vegas is a lot of fun, but it's not cool at all.  That's something you have to accept.  It's a corny adult Disneyland and it's best suited to people in shiny shirts and leased BMWs from LA suburbs who want to preen in a club that is identical to the clubs they have at home, but costs 3 times as much.

If you're the kind of person who loves places like Austin, then you're probably going to laugh at Vegas.  They do have that pinball hall of fame though.

I love Vegas but it's starting to lose the luster for me now that flights aren't cheap any more and there are so many casinos closer to home.  Fun place to party but it isn't really offering anything I can't get someplace here for much cheaper.

I don't really gamble so that part of Vegas never worked for me so all that I have to love is over-the-top tackiness.  I like places downtown and older strip places like the Flamingo.  I could really give a damn about Planet Hollywood or those Excalibur like places that were built in Vegas' "family-friendly" phase.

I used to dig the Barbary Coast too because it was young, grungy, and raucous.  I think that's gone now.

/also slots-o-fun


Yeah without gambling it's a one visit town I'd say for sure.  One friend of mine doesn't gamble but he goes there cuz he loves the clubs.  To each their own - those places make me want to slit my wrists.  The Excalibur is just... awful.  For old school I loved the Tropicana, but they remodeled the whole thing inside and out.  I used to love how old school cheesey it was with the damn trapeze right in the front.
 
2014-06-17 09:39:45 AM
I like vegas but I am able to spend a lot of time at the tables. If I didn't enjoy gambling I don't think vegas would be worth it.
 
2014-06-17 09:40:10 AM

mesmer242: Gulper Eel: Orlando turns parents into idiots. My normally-sensible wife wants us to do a family trip to Disney World some summer and all I can think is "Florida in July? How about NO."

Seriously, screw Disney. If you've got little kids take 'em to Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire. It's way cheaper, it's not usually stupid hot, it's fairly uncrowded except for the North Conway outlet strip, and there's a lot of other things to do other than watching your wallet get hoovered.

Story Land made Parent's top ten amusement parks for kids recently so it might get more crowded. We're now going to go the next time we're up that way.

/however, I think Disney is pretty awesome.


When my kids were little, we made the trek up to Story Land at least once every summer.  Santa's Village on occasion too.  My kids loved loved LOVED the "Find-all-26-letters=win-a-prize" thing at Santa' Village.  Of course I live in New Hampshire so it's not that far of a drive for me.  But yeah, it's not that hard to find discount tickets and while it ain't no Disney, you get a lot for your money.  Be forewarned: these parks are aimed at the kiddies. There's no Pleasure Island or big coasters or the like.  Also, they are only open in the Spring and Summer and since the sun stays up well past 8:00 PM at that time of year, there is not nightlife or even lights at any of the parks.  Everything closes when the sun goes down.

As to Disney: the secret is to go when the crowds aren't there.  That means no Summer (too hot anyway), Christmas vacation, February break, Spring break, etc.  We made our family trek to Orlando the last week of September back when our kids were in Kindergarten and 3rd grade.  The place was practically deserted and the workers there are all but falling over to help you.  There's mostly older people there so my kids got picked for everything: the parade, the shows, you name it.  We saw everything and never waited in a line.  Yes, they missed a week of school, but so what?  We only did it once and it was well worth it.  There's nothing they learn at that age that you can't make up for at home.
 
2014-06-17 09:41:45 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Anywhere in Yellowstone about 200 yards from the parking lot.  The place is unique and impressive and you can have so much of it to yourself because most of the people there are only walking the 50 yards from the parking lot to the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Old Faithful, Mammoth Springs, and the Lower Geyser Basin.  They barely even go in the Norris Basin.
 
2014-06-17 09:42:14 AM
Rapmaster2000:

Grayton Beach is my favorite beach in the panhandle area.

Yup.  Mine, too.  30-A is the highway.

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2014-06-17 09:42:18 AM
I was just in the Temple Bar area of Dublin last year (daytime only.)

It didn't strike me as touristy at all.  Just seemed like a shopping area with restaurants.  It's also near various museums and other things to see, including that big park with the water (sorry, don't know the name.)
 
2014-06-17 09:42:55 AM
they nailed Gibralter and Hollywood.  But Vegas?  Heresy.  Never been to the others except for passing through Frankfurt airport.
 
2014-06-17 09:43:35 AM

Tr0mBoNe: Any Magnetic Hill.


To be fair, its only disappointing due to that infestation of those plague rats of doom.
 
2014-06-17 09:44:30 AM

Tyrosine: I gotta agree with them on Frankfurt. It was basically bombed flat during the war, so there's few historical buildings remaining and there's not much to see unless you're an accountant and want to tour the financial district. On the plus side the big hostel near the train station is exceptionally clean, safe, and well run and they do have a local apple cider called apfelwein which is awesome.

Better options that are not on every tourist's radar are Strasbourg and Frieburg. If you go to Strasbourg avoid the hostel on the Rhine outside of town: too remote and too sterile.


This (except I didn't care for the apfelwein).

Frankfurt's great to fly into, then either take a train or rent a car to go someplace better. Go south to Bavaria.
 
2014-06-17 09:45:05 AM

Toy Boat: I have seen game shows that give away "exciting ... breathtaking ... whirlwind" vacations to spots like Houston, Texas.

Houston, Texas?  They don't even have Astroworld anymore!  Every place you go in Houston looks like every other crappy place in Houston.  It's like a bad dream, with traffic.


Houston isn't bad if you know where to go. NASA, Galveston, Uptown, Kemah, and the San Jacinto Monument are cool places that i know off the top of my head.
 
2014-06-17 09:45:50 AM
I want to go to this place, Socotra. Anyone been there?

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2014-06-17 09:46:04 AM
I don't care about gambling etc but Vegas is one of my favorite spots to vacation.  You have lake mead, valley of fire, red Rock canyon, death valley, mount Charleston, ghost towns, even a bit of grand canyon, all easy to moderate day trips. Dozens of beautiful, unique spots.  Just stay away in the summer.
 
2014-06-17 09:46:07 AM
I stayed in the LA area for a vacation once. Biggest waste of money and time EVER. Should have kept going to Hawaii.

Dont mind Vegas as I used to be an avid Poker player before the wife and kids took over my life. Hang out at the pool drinking 99 cent 3 foot tall drinks and smoking cigars. Poker at night. Heaven. Just gotta stay away from the questionable buffets or it will ruin your week.
 
2014-06-17 09:46:48 AM

Rapmaster2000: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!

Anywhere in Yellowstone about 200 yards from the parking lot.  The place is unique and impressive and you can have so much of it to yourself because most of the people there are only walking the 50 yards from the parking lot to the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Old Faithful, Mammoth Springs, and the Lower Geyser Basin.  They barely even go in the Norris Basin.


I have a theory that even if you are in a tourist spot, walking a quarter mile from the main drag puts you in a whole different, (and apart from Baltimore) a generally better world.  If I get to Yellowstone, I'd like to take a few days and do some proper backpacking.
 
2014-06-17 09:47:39 AM
Also, what should I be looking for in southern Argentina?  I'm going to be there for a few days this December.
 
2014-06-17 09:48:03 AM
#1 hooked me at "monkeys." Done and done.

My husband and I went to Disney with our nieces and nephew, and um... never again. If you can ditch the kids and head out to the park after 9pm, it's a much better experience. Lines are minimal. You can ride everything you want to. Disney is not for poors, though. You really have to go all out -- stay at a nice resort (with the shuttle)(concierge level at the Grand Floridian has an open bar at 4pm), pay for express passes, get the meal plan and stay away from the less expensive restaurants only catering to kids. We had good meals at The Brown Derby (despite our niece's tantrum) and Citrico's.

Epcot was the best part of the trip though.

Las Vegas is great if you like to shop, set a budget for gambling entertainment, clubbing/dancing, wearing a swimsuit and eating. I can't drink alcohol, but if I'm there for a day or two I can have a great time. I really liked the Crystals shopping center next to the Aria casino and hotel. They had designer shops we don't have here in Chicago, and Eva Longoria's steakhouse Beso was really good. I was also a fan of the Tropicana's breakfast cheese fries topped with scrambled eggs and bacon. My husband has done the ATV riding thing and enjoyed it.

I'm adding this to the list: Moulin Rouge. The meal is worse than the airline food on the way to Paris. The wait service is even worse. The show is incredibly outdated. We expected that it would be overpriced as a tourist trap, but we were expecting the show to be somewhat decent. The only parts that were awesome was the snake girl, can can dance, and when they let the 40+ show girls have their own number (since they've been doing it a while).
 
2014-06-17 09:48:47 AM
List fails without Bourbon Street. Yeah, the bars are cool, but they're crowded. The food is awesome, but the entire French Quarter smells like fermenting vomit and rotting urine. And check for an adam's apple on that hot chick who wants to blow you.
 
2014-06-17 09:49:06 AM
So anyone ever been to Stuttgart, Germany?  I'm going to visit some friends for 8 days at the end of September.  It is during Oktoberfest, but I want to do some other things besides drinking beer.

/Don't worry Farkers, beer drinking will still happen
 
2014-06-17 09:50:09 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Hershey Pennsylvania.

We stopped to sleep there and ended up staying for a morning on our way to NYC (Manhatten sucks, but I got some fun stories).  Hershey is awesome for the history of the place.  The opera house was under renovations when I was there, but it looked gorgeous.  The museum is cheap and the candy is cheap.

*I am a HUGE fan of corporate history.
 
2014-06-17 09:50:16 AM

Rapmaster2000: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!

Anywhere in Yellowstone about 200 yards from the parking lot.  The place is unique and impressive and you can have so much of it to yourself because most of the people there are only walking the 50 yards from the parking lot to the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Old Faithful, Mammoth Springs, and the Lower Geyser Basin.  They barely even go in the Norris Basin.


I already mentioned Cayman Islands and Scotland (I actually saw Castle Anthrax/Swamp Castle - which stayed up!).

Even though it's been 18 years since I was there, I will never stop recommending Pompeii. Probably the most interested in a place I've ever been. I'd go back to Italy just to go back there and I liked a lot of Italy (Do. Not. Go. To. Pisa.).
 
2014-06-17 09:51:14 AM

learn2fly: mekkab: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

that depends, do you like hiking?  Great little canyons a short drive outside of town.

I'm not into hiking to much, but I am and amateur photographer...I'm trying to find some out of the way place great for shooting.


Death Valley is nearby.  If you're there during a full moon or better you can get great night shots at the Eureka sand dunes on the North side of the park.  You can try the dunes at Mesquite flat but because they're near a paved road and lodging you'll have a harder time finding solitude and dunes that don't have size 6 sneaker imprints all over it.  If you're really looking for an out of the way place to take photographs try Racetrack playa, but try to rent a 4x4 and make sure you have a spare and a jack.
 
2014-06-17 09:51:39 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".


Paris.

There's a few tips: avoid eating and drinking in the central areas - you'll get stiffed - but other than that - it's architecturally beautiful, has lots of impressive sights to see, loads of art, great shopping. Go at the right times and hotels are cheap (when everyone leaves the city). And once you've done the big sights, there's still tons of smaller ones too. And eating in the outer arrondisements (which is like 15 minutes on a metro) is no more expensive than anywhere else.
 
2014-06-17 09:52:19 AM
Was in southern France for the first three months of the year with my wife and two children (2 and 4).  Unfortunately, it was for work and I only had the weekends to see stuff, so we couldn't go very far.  What I saw:

Gorges du Verdon and the Notre-Dame de Beauvoir in Moustiers-Sainte-Marie
Various castle ruins (Ponteves, another one I can't think of)
Drove along the Mediterranean from Cassis to Toulon
Avignon (didn't get to see the Palace of the Popes tough)
Went to the Promenade de Anglais at Nice
My wife got to make some perfume at Grasse and then we drove up to Mons (spectacular view)
Drove to Bordighera, Italy (stopped at a rest stop and looked down into Monaco) just to say that we were in Italy
Went to the Citadel at Sisteron (it was closed, but still worth seeing)
Drove to Figueres, Spain (again, just to say we were in Spain) and stopped at Carcassonne on the way back.

We also went to various small villages, and some antique malls.  It was nice to see some antiques that were older then the United States.

I think there was one weekend were we didn't go anywhere, because it was pouring down rain, and another one we went to a party our neighbors were throwing in our village.

/I miss the fresh bread and cheap wine the most...
 
2014-06-17 09:54:20 AM
The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.
 
2014-06-17 09:55:55 AM
Never been to Nassau, but it sounds a lot like Cozumel.

I might go back to Cancun someday, because even though it's an artificial and superficial money-suck, there's plenty of amusement to be had. Cozumel? Pointless waste of a day trip.
 
2014-06-17 09:56:01 AM

Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.


What if I have really low expectations for St. Louis and Baltimore?
 
2014-06-17 09:57:06 AM
BTW Who ever said that Frankfurt was a good place to go? I know what the City of London (the financial district) is like on a weekend - you could film a zombie movie there without too much difficulty.
 
2014-06-17 09:57:49 AM

Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.


Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.
 
2014-06-17 09:58:21 AM

Rapmaster2000: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!

Anywhere in Yellowstone about 200 yards from the parking lot.  The place is unique and impressive and you can have so much of it to yourself because most of the people there are only walking the 50 yards from the parking lot to the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Old Faithful, Mammoth Springs, and the Lower Geyser Basin.  They barely even go in the Norris Basin.


I find that's true of most of the places I go to.  Two criteria determine how many people you're going to share your destination with .. proximity to 1) paved roads 2) clean and supplied toilets.  If your destination has niether you can look forward to some peace and quiet.
 
2014-06-17 09:58:41 AM
another thing is that one problem with beautiful places is that yeah, they're going to get overrun with tourists. There's loads of pretty small towns in the UK that are really lovely, but on a weekend are full of coaches.
 
2014-06-17 09:58:59 AM

DrPainMD: List fails without Bourbon Street. Yeah, the bars are cool, but they're crowded. The food is awesome, but the entire French Quarter smells like fermenting vomit and rotting urine. And check for an adam's apple on that hot chick who wants to blow you.


Best time to go is the week after Mardi Gras (because it's clean) and hit the gay side towards Esplanade street. Preservation Hall is a good time too.

I love the rest of the Quarter, especially Frenchman street!
 
2014-06-17 10:01:22 AM
There are way too many good local pubs in Dublin within a short walking distance of Temple Bar to ever spend any time in Temple Bar.   That's not to say I haven't spent time in Temple Bar, as I have.  I just wouldn't recommend it.    You'll get attacked by the five thousand tourist brides having their hen parties.
 
2014-06-17 10:02:24 AM

fireclown: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.


One of my college buddies grew up and still lives there.  I love hanging with him in Baltimore.  If I was visiting as a tourist, yeah no thanks.  I gave him tons of shiat years back, we were bar hopping and passed some street benches that used to say "The Greatest City in the World" but they were old, decaying, and just really crappy.  I thought it was really funny.

/balmer marelin hon
 
2014-06-17 10:04:47 AM

farkeruk: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

Paris.

There's a few tips: avoid eating and drinking in the central areas - you'll get stiffed - but other than that - it's architecturally beautiful, has lots of impressive sights to see, loads of art, great shopping. Go at the right times and hotels are cheap (when everyone leaves the city). And once you've done the big sights, there's still tons of smaller ones too. And eating in the outer arrondisements (which is like 15 minutes on a metro) is no more expensive than anywhere else.


Yep!  Don't eat or drink ON the Champs Elysees, ever.  Go behind a few streets and you can find some great places though.

For instance, I ate dinner at this place last year, just minutes walk from tourists traps on the Champs:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g187147-d802123-Reviews -C omptoir_de_l_Arc-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

Duck confit dinner was only like 10 euros, wine was cheap.

Here's what happened ON the Champs Elysees:

One morning I wanted a cappuccino and an omlette.  I said to myself "Alright, no big deal, I'm just going to eat here on the Champs and people watch."  The omlette was reasonably priced, like 6 euros.  Yeah, it's expensive, but I expected that for the view.  I also got the cappuccino, which I didn't see the price of...it was nearly 8 euros.  EIGHT!  It wasn't even big, it was small!  That's about $11.  So that was a surprise.

Anyway...I was in Paris off season and it was all quite cheap as I didn't do stupid shiat like that very often.  Some of the hotels I stayed at were only ~100 euros a night, but if it had been peak season, they were $300-400 a night.
 
2014-06-17 10:04:56 AM

Carn: fireclown: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.

One of my college buddies grew up and still lives there.  I love hanging with him in Baltimore.  If I was visiting as a tourist, yeah no thanks.  I gave him tons of shiat years back, we were bar hopping and passed some street benches that used to say "The Greatest City in the World" but they were old, decaying, and just really crappy.  I thought it was really funny.

/balmer marelin hon


You can still see some of the "city that reads" benches around.  I think there's one near Fells Point.
 
2014-06-17 10:06:34 AM

topcon: Anyway...I was in Paris off season and it was all quite cheap as I didn't do stupid shiat like that very often. Some of the hotels I stayed at were only ~100 euros a night, but if it had been peak season, they were $300-400 a night.


This will sound like a rube question, but when is peak season for Paris?
 
2014-06-17 10:08:02 AM

learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?


It doesn't matter what you do (unless you get arrested) the first trip to Vegas will probably be great. Seeing the strip for the first time, realizing how massive Vegas is outside the strip, and just feeling like you are part of something exciting is great.
My advice, if you have a great time there, don't go back. Your next time will probably not live up to the excitement of the first.

Don't try walking to the Stratosphere from the main strip in the middle of the day.

Stay out of the smaller casinos on the strip if you plan to play slots. You will not win.

Certain places will send a car to pick you up for free if you call and ask. And by certain places, I at least mean Spearmint Rhino.

If you plan to be at a table or machine for a while, be sure to tip the woman who brings you your drink well and she'll keep an eye on you.

There's not much within walking distance off the strip if you start on the strip. But the bus system is really good. Trying to drive on the strip is usually a waste of time.

Old Vegas is pretty cool, definitely worth a venture.

Prepare to be disappointed by the buffets.

Always bet on black.
 
2014-06-17 10:08:06 AM

Skarekrough: Obviously written by someone who walks off the plane 20 feet, looks around and makes their decision based on that.

"Touristy" cities are nice.  The attractions act as a good trap for those who lack imagination and a willingness to project their own preconceived notion of what the city is onto their experience.

But you never really know a city until you get ahold of a vehicle and get off of the main drag.

Hollywood?  Yeah, it's part of Los Angeles, the greatest example of "everything at once in a small area" that exists.  If you can't find something interesting between all the studios, Newport Beach, Sunset Strip, Mulholland or the Valley then nothing will.

Las Vegas?  Get off the strip,man.  Dine at a place that only locals would.  Hit a pawn shop,  Put it on a highway and head out of the city to see mountains with snow on them, real actual desert with Joshua trees.  Hike around a bit.


Very much this, on both accounts. Our friends who live out in LA took us to the Hollywood strip, and it was pretty boring.. but getting up in the hills near the sign was nice, as were other parts of LA.

Las Vegas I loved and not for the gambling. Went for a friend's wedding in December and the surrounding snow capped mountains all around are beautiful scenery. Gambled a little and lost a little bit of money, but had a good time doing it and as long as you come with the full expectation that you're likely gonna lose that money, it doesn't hurt nearly as bad. Checked out some awesome local restaurants (beats the hell out of the casino buffets) and had a good time. Looking forward to going back and taking the wife next time and exploring the desert.

Yes, the Candadian side of Niagra is touristy, but you can avoid that part if you want fairly easy. Just hang out at the falls and enjoy the view, and go off the beaten path a bit. We just started walking down a random road after taking a cable car ride over the river and just happened upon a random Buddhist temple with some awesome statues - we would never have found it without exploring. And as was mentioned earlier, you're a short train ride from Toronto, which is all around awesome.
 
2014-06-17 10:08:33 AM

Gulper Eel: Orlando turns parents into idiots. My normally-sensible wife wants us to do a family trip to Disney World some summer and all I can think is "Florida in July? How about NO."

Seriously, screw Disney. If you've got little kids take 'em to Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire. It's way cheaper, it's not usually stupid hot, it's fairly uncrowded except for the North Conway outlet strip, and there's a lot of other things to do other than watching your wallet get hoovered.


Hooolllyy crap! Santa's Village. My parents rented an RV at took us there when I was 12. I helped my dad go under a low bridge. Ripped the air conditioner right off the roof. Hey, thanks! (really)
 
2014-06-17 10:09:18 AM

bark_atda_moon: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

Berlin is by far the best city I have ever been to.  Amsterdam is a close second.


Barcelona is pretty amazing. I love the laid back vibe, even though it's a big city and there's a lot going on.
 
2014-06-17 10:10:26 AM

topcon: It wasn't even big, it was small!


The french love their tiny, bitter coffee.  Especially with loads of cream and sugar.

At work I would spend .30 euros at the coffee vending machine for a tiny shot of "long", and people probably thought I was weird because I always took it black (and the machine was set to pour loads of sugar in it by default) .
 
2014-06-17 10:10:52 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Amsterdam, Paris, and Berlin all live up to the hype.
 
2014-06-17 10:11:36 AM

APO_Buddha: So anyone ever been to Stuttgart, Germany?  I'm going to visit some friends for 8 days at the end of September.  It is during Oktoberfest, but I want to do some other things besides drinking beer.

/Don't worry Farkers, beer drinking will still happen


Some laps on Das Ring.  With a pro driver or in a rental of some sort (but check your contract carefully - make sure there isn't a fine for taking it on the ring).

Or, buy a Porsche now, do factory pickup, tour Germany, ship it back as a used car.  Slightly cheaper than buying at a dealer here in the US, certainly more exciting
 
2014-06-17 10:14:10 AM

fireclown: This will sound like a rube question, but when is peak season for Paris?


You have to remember that Paris is a working city as well as a popular destination for tourists. So, "peak" is complicated, but actually, the cheapest time to stay in Paris is summer when all the Parisians go on holiday and the demand for hotels falls. That said, the Eiffel Tower gets real busy then.

Weekends are quite cheap too. Friday, Saturday and Sunday - no-one is using hotels.
 
2014-06-17 10:14:38 AM

APO_Buddha: So anyone ever been to Stuttgart, Germany?  I'm going to visit some friends for 8 days at the end of September.  It is during Oktoberfest, but I want to do some other things besides drinking beer.

/Don't worry Farkers, beer drinking will still happen


Stuttgart can be nice, the Porsche museum and the outskirts ... the city center is mostly boring. Did you visit the Cannstadter Wasen, Stuttgarts equivalent to the Munich Oktoberfest? Overcrowded and expensive, just like the Oktoberfest. Meh.

Smaller towns == better fests/fairs

/Wacken, just saying
 
2014-06-17 10:22:56 AM
What about Crawfordsville, Ind.? Anyone? Turkey Run State Park is nearb--

/oh forget it
//the great heartland of this once-wonderful nation is lost on you heathens
///there's a catfish fry
 
2014-06-17 10:23:52 AM
1. Gibraltar. Yeah, it ain't the way it looks in the James Bond movie, whichever one it was.

2. Niagara Falls.  Well, not really.  The U.S. side has improved over the last few years. The Canada side is still a strip of tourist traps. View from there's only good if the mist isn't too thick, which it usually is.

3. Temple Bar. Definitely. Go to Dame Tavern for the truly authentic morose-to-the-point of-suicide Irish atmosphere.

4. Hollywood. Yep.

5. Nassau. Hell, we had a great time there. Rented mopeds and got out of the city.  Scuba diving's to die for. Terrific eating. We had a blast at the Fish Fry places, west side of town. Avoid Atlantis and Paradise Island, though. Not worth the pri$e.

6. Liberty Island. Been years since I was there. Empire State building was more interesting. Was going to take my backpack to the top of the WTC, but...

7. Frankfurt. We spent a very little time there, just enough to overcome jet lag. Again, get out of the city to some absolutely stunning German countryside.

8. Disneyworld. Meh, You can still have fun on Space Mountain and some of the other rides. But for god's sake don't eat the food.

9. Casablanca. Yeah. Try Marrakesh.

10. Vegas. God yes. Again, get out of town. The only reason I'd go near there is for the geocaches on the E.T. Trail.

/list fails without http://www.huffingtonpost.com
 
2014-06-17 10:26:47 AM
I'd say Athens Greece is worth a few days.  When we were there in 2009 the old Acropolic Museum was closed and the new one wasn't open yet.  Nevertheless the Acropolis was awesome.  The National Museum has some good stuff to look at.  The Plaka and Syntagma Square were OK if you like crowded little shops full of knick knacks.  My kids found Syntagma a welcome site because it has a McDonalds.  We were there in late August and it was still very hot but the peak season was over and prices were coming down.  We spent about 7 days on Naxos Island, which was nice.  Not too overdeveloped and the beaches were good.

I guess Syntagma was the epicenter of a lot of the protests over the last few years.  I wonder how things are there now.
 
2014-06-17 10:27:05 AM

LemSkroob: Leaning tower of Pisa.

I've lived in Italy and have seen most all there is to see, and Pisa is at the very bottom of the list.


THIS! Pisa is a dump.
 
2014-06-17 10:27:37 AM
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2014-06-17 10:28:34 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".



If you're a beach person: Cephalonia, Greece (except that we couldn't find kayak rentals):
lh6.googleusercontent.com
Best beaches I have ever seen, hands down.  And with some exploring you can find nice private ones, like this.

If you're an ourdoorsy person, the island of Dominica (canyoning in volcanically heated waters!), New Zealand's southern island.
Cape Town, South Africa comes in a close third here, only because there is cheap white shark cage diving.

If you're a bars, clubs, and nightlife person, Bangkok, Berlin, and (oddly enough) Warsaw, Poland (so long as it's spring or summer).

If you're an extreme sports outdoorsy person (hiking, biking, climbing, offroading), nothing beats Moab, Utah.
 
2014-06-17 10:29:03 AM
 
2014-06-17 10:31:41 AM

LemSkroob: Born_Again_Bavarian: LemSkroob: Leaning tower of Pisa.

I've lived in Italy and have seen most all there is to see, and Pisa is at the very bottom of the list.

This.  What a terrible place.  I would also add that if you are not a big museum person Florence sucks.

Florence is where i lived, and while it is big on museum stuff, if that isnt your bag, there are literally 1,000 other historical buildings and sites to see. And it that still isnt your thing, there is always just chilling in a piazza with a coffee, of which there are dozens of (piazzas, that is).

Pisa is basically a 3rd rate city with a train station a long walk away from its main attraction, with not much in between.

Florence can lose half its landmarks and still be a destination. Pisa only has one thing going, and thats only impressive because of its accidental situation. Architecturally, the tower and Duomo are fine, but there are better examples of their styles within Tuscany alone.


I don't mean to rag on the city but it just wasn't for me.  We were staying down near Siena and figured it would be fun to spend the day in Florence.  It was crowded despite only being mid April.  The city smelled of piss and garbage.  The pan handlers were aggressive.  There were lines for everything,.  We bugged out after only a few hours and headed back to San Gimignano which is so much more our speed. Our trip overall consisted of hiking in the Swiss Alps, Cinco Terra, exploring sleepy towns along Lake Maggiore and staying at a small winery just outside of Siena.  We just weren't in the mood for a city.
 
2014-06-17 10:32:16 AM

Voiceofreason01: The biggest complaint they have about Disney World is $2.50 bottles of water(OH NO!)?

That still makes them less greedy than any airport vendor.
 
2014-06-17 10:33:05 AM
Nassau was fine, just avoid town on any day when 2+ Disney or Carnival mega-ships are in port.   Go on an off day, take a couple of factory tours:  Graycliff Cigars and Bacardi.  Or be daring, take a quick hop over to Cuba for a day.

I disagree with prior posts on Atlantis and Paradise Island.   If you are willing to pay the price, The Cove at Atlantis is worth it;  I'd rate it as the nicest hotel in the Americas.   There's nothing like wandering around the gardens of Atlantis in the middle of the night, smoking cigars and admiring the amazing job they've done with landscaping and lighting.    And it's a pretty freaking amazing waterpark during the day.
 
2014-06-17 10:35:08 AM

learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?


Yes. Summon your inner child and enjoy the shiat out of the trip.

Go to ALL the casinos on the strip at night. They have Mardi Gras! They have a pirate ship fighting a British ship! There are talking camels! Men dressed in Centurion outfits! The ceilings mimic a sky! Ride all the rides! Take the free tram! Relax by a pool! It's farking hot outside during the day! Look at all the funny people and you're one of them! Have a banal conversation with everyone you meet! Gamble. Play the farking slot machines. Some really smart people figured out a way to get you to keep playing and losing and look at all the fun flashing lights! Eat at all the restaurants. Keep a big farking smile on your face because you're on vacation doing something that you haven't done before.

If you get a car the Red Rock Canyon state park is worth it or Death Valley, or Joshua Tree National Park, or the farking Mojave desert. Get a map.

When you leave, tired out and hopefully just a bit sunburned, remember how much fun you had and think of all the things you did and saw that you don't normally do or see and that it will all be waiting for you if you ever come back. That's how to do a vacation.
 
2014-06-17 10:36:25 AM

topcon: farkeruk: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

Paris.

There's a few tips: avoid eating and drinking in the central areas - you'll get stiffed - but other than that - it's architecturally beautiful, has lots of impressive sights to see, loads of art, great shopping. Go at the right times and hotels are cheap (when everyone leaves the city). And once you've done the big sights, there's still tons of smaller ones too. And eating in the outer arrondisements (which is like 15 minutes on a metro) is no more expensive than anywhere else.

Yep!  Don't eat or drink ON the Champs Elysees, ever.  Go behind a few streets and you can find some great places though.

For instance, I ate dinner at this place last year, just minutes walk from tourists traps on the Champs:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g187147-d802123-Reviews -C omptoir_de_l_Arc-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

Duck confit dinner was only like 10 euros, wine was cheap.

Here's what happened ON the Champs Elysees:

One morning I wanted a cappuccino and an omlette.  I said to myself "Alright, no big deal, I'm just going to eat here on the Champs and people watch."  The omlette was reasonably priced, like 6 euros.  Yeah, it's expensive, but I expected that for the view.  I also got the cappuccino, which I didn't see the price of...it was nearly 8 euros.  EIGHT!  It wasn't even big, it was small!  That's about $11.  So that was a surprise.

Anyway...I was in Paris off season and it was all quite cheap as I didn't do stupid shiat like that very often.  Some of the hotels I stayed at were only ~100 euros a night, but if it had been peak season, they were $300-400 a night.


For food I hit small grocers for breakfast and dinner. Staples like bread, meat, yogurt and vegetables are cheap. If you want to buy pop and chips be prepared to pay through the ass (a 600ml bottle of coke cost 3.50 euro!). If you're going to eat in a restaurant don't go any place in a touristy area. Like you said go over a couple of streets.

For hotels I always stay outside the city and take the metro in. You pay half what it costs in the city center and the metro is very user friendly. Last time I was there I stayed in Malakoff, which is a 15 minute subway ride from the Louvre, and only 40 euro a night for two people.

The best time to visit is May. It's "shoulder season", so the prices and weather are generally good.

Bathrooms are an issue in Paris. Public restrooms are rare and many restaurants / cafes don't have public facilities. Use them when they're available. Some places have access codes for the washrooms that you have to request when you purchase food.

Plan a full day for the Louvre. It's massive and there's a lot to see besides the Mona Lisa and Venus De Milo. Enter through the metro station in the lower level to save a long lineup. Most tourists flock to see Mona and Venus, so these two exhibits are always crowded but the rest of the place isn't bad. Also, check out the Rodin Museum which is about a 15 minute walk from the Louvre. Well worth the visit.

Don't pay to go up the Arc de Triomphe, it's not worth it. You get more bang for your buck on the Eiffel Tower.
 
2014-06-17 10:36:46 AM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".


Fair enough. As far as cities go, i was really impressed with: New York City; Washington DC; Tokyo, Japan; Osaka, Japan; Hong Kong, China; Singapore; Ayutthaya, Thailand;  and Santiago, Chile.

Sites i was impressed with: The Badlands, South Carolina; The Grand Canyon, Arizona; Monument Valley, Utah; The Adirondacks, New York; White Sands National Monument, New Mexico; Chiricahua National Monument, Arizona; Castle Rock, Kansas; Niagra Falls, New York (despite what TFA says); Sugarloaf Mountain, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil; Nokogiri-yama, Chiba, Japan; and Victoria Peak, Hong Kong, China
 
2014-06-17 10:36:58 AM

DrPainMD: List fails without Bourbon Street. Yeah, the bars are cool, but they're crowded. The food is awesome, but the entire French Quarter smells like fermenting vomit and rotting urine. And check for an adam's apple on that hot chick who wants to blow you.


Ah, the sights and smells of Bourbon Street.  That section of town is basically Tijuana with gypsy jazz.  Tourist puking against a building, prostitutes jumping to avoid the splash, holes in the sidewalk filled with the fetid runoff, barkers enticing elderly couples into dingy strip clubs.
 
2014-06-17 10:37:11 AM

APO_Buddha: So anyone ever been to Stuttgart, Germany?  I'm going to visit some friends for 8 days at the end of September.  It is during Oktoberfest, but I want to do some other things besides drinking beer.

/Don't worry Farkers, beer drinking will still happen


Probably not open in September, but germans are pretty into public pools.

Haven't been to Stuttgart, but i lived in Germany, and it's pretty boring in general. Everything closes super early. They do love festivals and public drinking.

The no speed limit Autobahn is pretty cool. Rent a nice car and go wild. Drinking on the train is legal and encouraged. My favorite city in Germany is koln. Beautiful train ride along the rhine to get there, might be worth the trip.

Stuttgart apparently has a bunch of vineyards, maybe you could go wine tasting? There's a couple car museums there too.

Check out tripadvisor.com and lonely planet. Maybe virtualtourist.com too. Good luck.
 
2014-06-17 10:38:16 AM
Niagra Falls does not surprise me. The American side really is boring. Disney World will really get my parents going since they love that place.

I will just stick to the many relaxing beaches the East Coast has to offer. Best ones in my opinion are Ocean City, MD, Outer Banks, NC, and Myrtle Beach, SC.
 
2014-06-17 10:38:36 AM

bniath: http://www.interlaken.ch/en/discover-interlaken.html


Interlaken maybe.  But head up into the Lauterbrunnen Valley and you are in someplace really special if you are into hiking and just enjoying the splendor of the Alps.
 
2014-06-17 10:42:07 AM

Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.


Not sure how busan was disappointing. That's my favorite city in korea.

Families sleeping on the beach cuz it's so hot out? How cool is that? I love how safe korea is.

Amazing seafood, great clubs. Bartenders who do crazy synchronized dances just for fun, on a weeknight.
 
2014-06-17 10:42:32 AM

Rapmaster2000: What if I have really low expectations for St. Louis and Baltimore?


fireclown: Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.


Baltimore was never really built up for me, i did not know what to expect before going. When I arrived, i found it was all ghettos with the small exception of the area over by the Waterfront.

I had low expectations for St. Louis before i went. It was worse than expected.
 
2014-06-17 10:42:43 AM
Some people are disappointed no matter where they go.  And they are surprisingly prolific about it.
 
2014-06-17 10:45:23 AM

Jesus Farking Christ: Anyone having problems with Huffington Post on the iPhone where it blocks the ability to switch between pages with an ad?


Yep.

#1 reason I've stopped clicking on huffpo links.

/if you have to resort to stupid tricks like that to generate revenue, you can fark the hell off
 
2014-06-17 10:47:27 AM

LadySusan: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

Yes. Summon your inner child and enjoy the shiat out of the trip.

Go to ALL the casinos on the strip at night. They have Mardi Gras! They have a pirate ship fighting a British ship! There are talking camels! Men dressed in Centurion outfits! The ceilings mimic a sky! Ride all the rides! Take the free tram! Relax by a pool! It's farking hot outside during the day! Look at all the funny people and you're one of them! Have a banal conversation with everyone you meet! Gamble. Play the farking slot machines. Some really smart people figured out a way to get you to keep playing and losing and look at all the fun flashing lights! Eat at all the restaurants. Keep a big farking smile on your face because you're on vacation doing something that you haven't done before.

If you get a car the Red Rock Canyon state park is worth it or Death Valley, or Joshua Tree National Park, or the farking Mojave desert. Get a map.

When you leave, tired out and hopefully just a bit sunburned, remember how much fun you had and think of all the things you did and saw that you don't normally do or see and that it will all be waiting for you if you ever come back. That's how to do a vacation.


^^ This is said much better than I put it.  I will add that the slingshot or whatever the top ride on the Stratosphere is, is amazing, and the view both day and especially at night is just amazing.
 
2014-06-17 10:51:11 AM
What you think the casino will be like....

i.imgur.com

What the casino is actually like....

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-17 10:52:04 AM
Everyone of theses places have a waffle house near by.
If anything screams "Culture" at the top of its drunken lungs, it's a faking waffle house.
Even a Belgian one.
 
2014-06-17 10:52:43 AM

DrPainMD: List fails without Bourbon Street. Yeah, the bars are cool, but they're crowded. The food is awesome, but the entire French Quarter smells like fermenting vomit and rotting urine. And check for an adam's apple on that hot chick who wants to blow you.


Why would you do that?  Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to.
 
2014-06-17 10:53:56 AM

chewd: What you think the casino will be like....

[i.imgur.com image 688x570]

What the casino is actually like....

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Big tip for table games - never play with grumpy people or sore losers.  I always have a blast gambling even when I'm losing my shirt.  If you're not having fun, find another table/pit/casino.
 
2014-06-17 10:54:32 AM

Hawnkee: FLMountainMan: QueenMamaBee: I didn't think Vegas was all that bad. I was far more disappointed by Philly than I was Vegas.

Why the hell did you have expectations for Philly?

South St. was great until the Zipperhead moved around the corner and got renamed. After that, all that's left worth going to is Armed & Dangerous. Other than that, the goth club scene is pretty much all that's left.


South St was lame and corporate a decade before Zipperhead finally moved.

/I'm from Philly and I can't believe anyone would come to see South St from another part of the country.
 
2014-06-17 10:57:42 AM

o'really: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Not sure how busan was disappointing. That's my favorite city in korea.

Families sleeping on the beach cuz it's so hot out? How cool is that? I love how safe korea is.

Amazing seafood, great clubs. Bartenders who do crazy synchronized dances just for fun, on a weeknight.


I was expecting more of a city like Seoul; It just did not live up to that. It was a nice city other than that and i still enjoyed my time there.
 
2014-06-17 10:59:40 AM

Skarekrough: Las Vegas? Get off the strip,man. Dine at a place that only locals would.


If I wanted to go to a place that only the locals would go, I'd stay home. I only vacay at places with a Bubba Gump Shrimp or a Hard Rock Cafe.

/I like to road trip; my best vacation was a hostel trip from Amsterdam (Zwolle, actually) to Berlin, Krakow, Vienna, and Salzburg. Krakow and Salzburg are the coolest places I've ever been.
 
2014-06-17 11:03:59 AM

MBooda: 8. Disneyworld. Meh, You can still have fun on Space Mountain and some of the other rides. But for god's sake don't eat the food.


I assume this is more aimed at pricing issues than food quality? Epcot's dining selection is farking great, as well as quite a few of the hotels.
 
2014-06-17 11:04:50 AM

Eskaminagaga: Baltimore was never really built up for me, i did not know what to expect before going. When I arrived, i found it was all ghettos with the small exception of the area over by the Waterfront.


Canton is pretty fun.    And if you go again, catch a movie at the Charles theater.
 
2014-06-17 11:05:17 AM

LordBeavis: DrPainMD: List fails without Bourbon Street. Yeah, the bars are cool, but they're crowded. The food is awesome, but the entire French Quarter smells like fermenting vomit and rotting urine. And check for an adam's apple on that hot chick who wants to blow you.

Why would you do that?  Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to.


LOL! Just lie back and think of England?
 
2014-06-17 11:08:00 AM

LadySusan: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

Yes. Summon your inner child and enjoy the shiat out of the trip.

Go to ALL the casinos on the strip at night. They have Mardi Gras! They have a pirate ship fighting a British ship! There are talking camels! Men dressed in Centurion outfits! The ceilings mimic a sky! Ride all the rides! Take the free tram! Relax by a pool! It's farking hot outside during the day! Look at all the funny people and you're one of them! Have a banal conversation with everyone you meet! Gamble. Play the farking slot machines. Some really smart people figured out a way to get you to keep playing and losing and look at all the fun flashing lights! Eat at all the restaurants. Keep a big farking smile on your face because you're on vacation doing something that you haven't done before.

If you get a car the Red Rock Canyon state park is worth it or Death Valley, or Joshua Tree National Park, or the farking Mojave desert. Get a map.

When you leave, tired out and hopefully just a bit sunburned, remember how much fun you had and think of all the things you did and saw that you don't normally do or see and that it will all be waiting for you if you ever come back. That's how to do a vacation.


Will you go with me? I have a feeling our sarcasm would be a perfect match.
 
2014-06-17 11:09:50 AM

Xenomech: Land Ark: On the ride up from Edinburgh we passed about 500 Lochs. Any one of those would have provided the same level of interest.

And the same level of monsters.


One in each Loch, that has only been seen in low-quality pictures? That's amazing!
 
2014-06-17 11:12:33 AM
The other Vegas (spelled differently as Weggis, Luzern) is quite nice, and these a small casino. It's near the base of the cable car to the top of Mt. Pilatus.

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-17 11:12:54 AM

APO_Buddha: So anyone ever been to Stuttgart, Germany?  I'm going to visit some friends for 8 days at the end of September.  It is during Oktoberfest, but I want to do some other things besides drinking beer.

/Don't worry Farkers, beer drinking will still happen


Stuttgart has a very decent art museum with a huge collection of Otto Dix who became famous for his brutal depiction of WW1. If you are into German History the "Haus der Geschichte Baden-Württembergs" is cool, but ... in German. Very nice exhibits on their democratic revolution of 1848 that was crushed (notable refugee from that time: later Secretary of the Interior Karl Schurz). Around the corner is Ludwigsburg with a nice baroque residence and a huge park and a kind of German "Disney Land" of the 50ies that depicts fairy tales from the "Brothers Grimm" (but be warned: it *is* 50ies and for children but not without charm and the admission is included in the park fee). The Zoo (Wilhelma) is very good. You can easily spend an entire day there. Also, Stuttgart is known for modern architecture, the most famous example (besides the train station from the 20ies), is the Weißenhof Siedlung with "model housing" from the 20ies.All the big shots of the time created their model house, a guided tour is possible and recommended.

If you want to eat like a native: Go to the "Kiste", small restaurant/pub with good Spätzle. Drink Trollinger or Lemberger (red wine) or a local beer. The one from the Stuttgarter Oktoberfest is actually quite tasty. If you want to have a look at German students: Visit the "Fischlabor" in the Feuerbacher Straße (?), that's how people try to be hip in rather staid Southern Germany. In Degerloch (sub urb) is a rather famous musical stage, but I am not into this kind of entertainment and can't comment!

For a nice scenery: Try the Killesberg. And as mentioned, there is a Porsche Museum and a Mercedes Museum.
 
2014-06-17 11:16:18 AM

mbillips: Seriously, subby, casinos suck. Gambling is for retards. I would argue the point about Disney World, but then I'm a person of sufficient means to not look at the price of cocktails, souvenirs and meals when I go on vacation (I'm not rich, but I have a solid cash position, and I don't go on vacation very often). The Mouse is very good at entertainment, and you pay full price for it.

Pretty solid list, actually.


If you go to Vegas only for gambling, then yes, you suck and your trip sucks.

I was there for 4 days on a business trip. I spent 6 hours each day doing business stuff, 4-6 hours sleeping, and the rest of the time sightseeing, attending the live shows, and having fun. I spent 1 whole hour the entire trip gambling, and that was just to pass the time until the next show i wanted to see. Won $200 in the process.

I still didn't get to do half the things I wanted to do.

/Will be going back someday, when I can afford a trip on my own
 
2014-06-17 11:18:51 AM

talkertopc: I've never been to Disney myself but everyone I know who have loved it, I must say I'm not sure which one they went to except that it was not Euro Disney. Same thing for Las Vegas.

Surprised to not see Paris on the list, I've seen quite long lines to visit the Eiffel tower and the Louvre in pictures (Google street view?). I would nonetheless totally spend most of my time in the Louvre  if I ever went to Paris, I'd just stay away from the Mona Lisa which I guess is the main attraction for most tourists.


paris is a great tourist destination. it's a city i LOVE to visit...but i would never live there. i highly recommend going and doing all the touristy things (and i'm not one to push the "do the touristy things" bit...but if you want non-touristy france, go elsewhere...it's a big country). the key to visiting the louvre is to get there when it opens. line is nearly non-existent, and you have all day to explore! and i would not plan anything else that day...you may end up with time for other stuff, or you may, indeed, spend all day there.

i've never had to wait more than 30 minutes to get into the tower, either...don't know if it was luck all 5 or 6 times, or if they're just really fast, but fact remains, i've never waited
 
2014-06-17 11:25:33 AM

fozziewazzi: Tikal, Guatemala.  Go there on a weekday, take the first min-van from your hotel that will get you there ~6am, make a bee-line for the grand plaza.  You'll likely be the only one there.  I had breakfast at the top of the pyramid, there was no one around, and I heard nothing but howler monkeys and parrots.  As impressive as the place looks now I imagined how majestic, colorful and vibrant it must have been in it's heyday.


You saw An Idiot Abroad, didn't you. Karl Pilkington did the same thing. Not so idiotic after all.
 
2014-06-17 11:31:08 AM

learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?


Bring your gps and rent a car for the weekend - don't take a cab. Plan to have a good meal somewhere off the strip - surprisingly, the food choices there are either real expensive meals or buffets, or the same crappy fast food you can get at home.

I tuck in early and get up early; craps before bed, 21 at 4am, slots at the airport.

Hydrate with water constantly, plus extra for every drink consumed. Bring comfortable shoes - you'll probably be walking 20 miles or more in a desert covered with concrete.

If you're going with your wife, (or someone else's wife), have her walk 10 foot ahead when entering a casino - keeps the hard sell show hacks away.

Go to Fremont St early on for a while.

Have a blast - the first time is always the best.
 
2014-06-17 11:31:33 AM

kdawg7736: Niagra Falls does not surprise me. The American side really is boring. Disney World will really get my parents going since they love that place.

I will just stick to the many relaxing beaches the East Coast has to offer. Best ones in my opinion are Ocean City, MD, Outer Banks, NC, and Myrtle Beach, SC.


That was a troll, right?

MB is like one big theme park.  And the theme is white trash.
 
2014-06-17 11:33:55 AM

Tyrosine: I gotta agree with them on Frankfurt. It was basically bombed flat during the war, so there's few historical buildings remaining and there's not much to see unless you're an accountant and want to tour the financial district. On the plus side the big hostel near the train station is exceptionally clean, safe, and well run and they do have a local apple cider called apfelwein which is awesome.

Better options that are not on every tourist's radar are Strasbourg and Frieburg. If you go to Strasbourg avoid the hostel on the Rhine outside of town: too remote and too sterile.


frankfurt is a blast when you're stationed at ramstein and want to visit the red light district without driving to amsterdam

yes, i lived across the street from a brothel outside of ramstein, but it's not the same as "walking the stairs" in frankfurt

plus, sachsenhausen is a great bar/restaurant district

but, aside from those things, no...frankfurt am main is not really a tourist city...there are plenty other cities, some very close by, that are great for tourism. heck, within a 30 or 40 minute drive from the airport you can take a 1 or more day vacation on the wine road (weinstrasse), and overlapping the time of the oktoberfest in munich, there is the bad duerkheim wurstfest (sausage fest), which happens to be the largest wine fest in the world...i went to that fest 3 times, and never had a desire to go to the incredibly overcrowded drunk fest down in munich
 
2014-06-17 11:34:42 AM
Ah, Hollywood. Where the panhandlers are like crapping pigeons and the crackheads throw things at you.

And when did WDW drop the price on a bottle of water? It was $3.50/bottle when I was last there in 1986 (oh, and don't think you can get away with just using a drinking fountain.  They don't have any.)
 
2014-06-17 11:40:11 AM

talkertopc: Surprised to not see Paris on the list, I've seen quite long lines to visit the Eiffel tower and the Louvre in pictures (Google street view?). I would nonetheless totally spend most of my time in the Louvre  if I ever went to Paris, I'd just stay away from the Mona Lisa which I guess is the main attraction for most tourists.


Go at the right times and the Eiffel Tower has a 5 minute queue. I know, I've done it. On a summer's afternoon, yeah, it's crowded.

A friend of mine recommended early evening, like just before sunset. The crowds have gone down, and you can see it in sunshine, sunset and night time.
 
2014-06-17 11:42:01 AM

slave2grind: Stone Mountain, Ga.
Nuff said.


Ah, the giant beached whale is fun for a picnic or a hike.

Just don't buy any of the concessions.
 
2014-06-17 11:44:14 AM

Recoil Therapy: you're pretty much guaranteed to walk away from Vegas poorer than when you arrived.

WTF indeed. Anyone going to Vegas expecting to come back with more money than they arrived with is an optimistic fool.  You have to pay for all those lights somehow... In fact anyone going on vacation anywhere expecting not to spend money doesn't really understand how life works.

I do have to admit though that I learned something from TFA.  In all my years revolving around the sun, I had never thought of Frankfurt as a destination vacation.  Munich perhaps during Octoberfest but Frankfurt?

Why would you want to go during Octoberfest? There are more people than the city can handle, everything is way overpriced (i.e. hotel rooms that would cost 50 a night are now 400), half a litre of beer is $15, there is no service whatsoever and it is full of rude smelly drunken people and vomit.

I recommend to get drunk at home and visit Munich anytime but octoberfest
 
2014-06-17 11:46:36 AM

Delta1212: "I don't know how to have fun and no one else should either"


Seriously.

If you can't have fun at Disney World or Las Vegas, the problem is you.
 
2014-06-17 11:48:13 AM
gdamn fark.  making me click the link...
 
2014-06-17 11:49:49 AM
After three weeks in Spain, I had a blast in Gibraltar.  Lager and lime and a proper fry up for breakfast.  Mmmm... Plus that cave with the performance space and the tour of the cannons was fascinating.  And then we went across to Africa from Algeciras for the day which was a hole tourist culture shock.
 
2014-06-17 11:51:41 AM
For anyone doing India, do it off-season.

Yeah, that means the hot season, but in the northern areas, its that desert-dry heat. Most places were empty when they have hours-long lines in the busy season (the Taj, the palaces, etc).

The biggest benefit was the cost. We were staying in 5-star and "heritage" level hotels (basically converted palaces themselves) for less than $80 a night.    And we had these hotels almost to ourselves. maybe 10% occupancy at that time.

No joke, these were the hotels  http://www.welcomheritagehotels.in/

We also got  a full time personal tour guide/driver for 8 days for around $1,000 (try that in in Italy or France and pay 5-figures).
 
2014-06-17 11:53:23 AM

mbillips: Copperbelly watersnake: For me, the worst is Pigeon Forge or I as I like to call it the big stretch of butt ugly you have to drive through to get to the Smokies. There really is no good way around it if you're approaching the Smokies from the north. Most of the places on the list are good places to go if you avoid the tourist traps.

Disney is fun if you have kids. If you don't have kids, there are better amusement parks to go to.

Go through Maryville and Townsend; takes you straight to Gatlinburg along scenic Old State Highway 73 and avoids Pigeon Forge. Takes a bitl longer, but it's a gorgeous drive.


Agreed.  This is the direct way into to Cade's Cove.  And for a bonus, there is a top notch BBQ joint in Townsend.

As for Pigeon itself, it's fun if you have some little kids. Otherwise, avoid.
 
2014-06-17 11:56:36 AM
230+ comments and no mention of Detroit?  Odd.
 
2014-06-17 11:57:27 AM

bungle_jr: frankfurt is a blast when you're stationed at ramstein and want to visit the red light district without driving to amsterdam


I didn't spend a lot of time in the red light district in Frankfurt, so perhaps I've got a skewed impression, but the hookers I saw didn't exactly look appealing. The expression "50 miles of hard road" comes to mind. To be blunt, most of them looked like something that was scraped off the lid of a dumpster.

Having been to both places I'd suggest it would be worth the drive to Amsterdam.
 
2014-06-17 11:57:36 AM

fireclown: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.


Baltimore is a tourist spot if you're transporting drugs from Miami to New York.  It's become more disappointing over the years as more of the fun spots are shut down due to being caught serving underage people.  Now all that it's good for is a spot for the Ravens to play and a really awesome hospital.  2 blocks beyond the inner harbor and some of the office buildings or stadiums, you will end up taking your life into your own hands.
 
2014-06-17 11:58:38 AM

thisisyourbrainonFark: What about Crawfordsville, Ind.? Anyone? Turkey Run State Park is nearb--

/oh forget it
//the great heartland of this once-wonderful nation is lost on you heathens
///there's a catfish fry


In all seriousness - is it worth an overnight camp stop?  I'm planning a road trip and my way down is all set:

-Hamilton (Ontario) through Detroit to Luna Pier, MI for late breakfast stop
-Lunch in Cincinnati to see the Roebling Bridge
-Camp three nights/2 days at Mammoth Cave
-stop somewhere between Nashville/Memphis
-Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater

Return
-Saturday to visit my sister near Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
-St. Louis early on Sunday to go up the arch (hafta - did it when I was 9)
-camp Sunday night somewhere in Indiana ???
-home on Monday.

I will have a 3 and 5 year old.  And parents in another vehicle.
 
2014-06-17 12:00:32 PM

lucksi: Recoil Therapy: you're pretty much guaranteed to walk away from Vegas poorer than when you arrived.

WTF indeed. Anyone going to Vegas expecting to come back with more money than they arrived with is an optimistic fool.  You have to pay for all those lights somehow... In fact anyone going on vacation anywhere expecting not to spend money doesn't really understand how life works.

I do have to admit though that I learned something from TFA.  In all my years revolving around the sun, I had never thought of Frankfurt as a destination vacation.  Munich perhaps during Octoberfest but Frankfurt?
Why would you want to go during Octoberfest? There are more people than the city can handle, everything is way overpriced (i.e. hotel rooms that would cost 50 a night are now 400), half a litre of beer is $15, there is no service whatsoever and it is full of rude smelly drunken people and vomit.

I recommend to get drunk at home and visit Munich anytime but octoberfest


Wasn't the topic disappointing destinations?  Frankfurt as a generic large city shouldn't be on the list but Munich as a destination during Octoberfest would be perfect for the list as, as you pointed out, you're probably going to have a less than ideal time.

Now if we were making a list of great destinations, Munich during Octoberfest wouldn't be anywhere near THAT list.
 
2014-06-17 12:07:13 PM

Another Government Employee: And when did WDW drop the price on a bottle of water? It was $3.50/bottle when I was last there in 1986 (oh, and don't think you can get away with just using a drinking fountain.  They don't have any.)


You realize you can ask any fountain drink vendor (usually the counter-service restaurants, I guess) for a free cup of ice water, right?
 
2014-06-17 12:07:56 PM

Civchic: -Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater


Are you referring to the Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas? I have always gone camping a little north of there in the Ouachita National Forest or stayed with relatives in Hot Springs. How is the crater? I have never actually been.
 
2014-06-17 12:15:32 PM

Gulper Eel: fozziewazzi: Tikal, Guatemala.  Go there on a weekday, take the first min-van from your hotel that will get you there ~6am, make a bee-line for the grand plaza.  You'll likely be the only one there.  I had breakfast at the top of the pyramid, there was no one around, and I heard nothing but howler monkeys and parrots.  As impressive as the place looks now I imagined how majestic, colorful and vibrant it must have been in it's heyday.

You saw An Idiot Abroad, didn't you. Karl Pilkington did the same thing. Not so idiotic after all.


Heard of the show, never saw it.
 
2014-06-17 12:24:32 PM
The theme of this guys article seems to be, "people keep wanting me to spend money."  You know why those places are able to charge so much money, because people are willing to spend it.
 
2014-06-17 12:25:27 PM
Who the hell goes to Frankfurt on vacation?  I've been there for business, and that's about all you'd want to do there unless you're dying to see the house where Goethe was born.  The best thing about Frankfurt is that it's only four hours by train to Paris.
 
2014-06-17 12:31:14 PM

Civchic: thisisyourbrainonFark: What about Crawfordsville, Ind.? Anyone? Turkey Run State Park is nearb--

/oh forget it
//the great heartland of this once-wonderful nation is lost on you heathens
///there's a catfish fry

In all seriousness - is it worth an overnight camp stop?  I'm planning a road trip and my way down is all set:

-Hamilton (Ontario) through Detroit to Luna Pier, MI for late breakfast stop
-Lunch in Cincinnati to see the Roebling Bridge
-Camp three nights/2 days at Mammoth Cave
-stop somewhere between Nashville/Memphis
-Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater

Return
-Saturday to visit my sister near Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
-St. Louis early on Sunday to go up the arch (hafta - did it when I was 9)
-camp Sunday night somewhere in Indiana ???
-home on Monday.

I will have a 3 and 5 year old.  And parents in another vehicle.


Turkey Run is one of the few decent camping spots, I think. Canoeing available.
 
2014-06-17 12:32:08 PM
Pub's closed.  Piss-soaked mick out front shoulda told 'ya.
 
2014-06-17 12:32:51 PM

Muta: 230+ comments and no mention of Detroit?  Odd.


Why is it odd?
 
2014-06-17 12:34:04 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Who the hell goes to Frankfurt on vacation?  I've been there for business, and that's about all you'd want to do there unless you're dying to see the house where Goethe was born.


that guy who sings "somebody that i used to know"?

The best thing about Frankfurt is that it's in the center of western germany, so easy access to pretty much anywhere else in germany, as well as a short train ride to such top non-german destinations as paris.


ftfy
 
2014-06-17 12:58:05 PM

mike_d85: kdawg7736: Niagra Falls does not surprise me. The American side really is boring. Disney World will really get my parents going since they love that place.

I will just stick to the many relaxing beaches the East Coast has to offer. Best ones in my opinion are Ocean City, MD, Outer Banks, NC, and Myrtle Beach, SC.

That was a troll, right?

MB is like one big theme park.  And the theme is white trash.


Yeah, but I felt I had to add a third since the other beaches I spent a decent amount of time at include Chincoteague, VA, which is boring except for looking at horses, and Virignia Beach, VA which is pretty trashy. MB is a hybrid of both OC (downtown) and OBX (Murrell's Inlet).
 
2014-06-17 01:06:46 PM

LemSkroob: Born_Again_Bavarian: LemSkroob: Leaning tower of Pisa.

I've lived in Italy and have seen most all there is to see, and Pisa is at the very bottom of the list.

This.  What a terrible place.  I would also add that if you are not a big museum person Florence sucks.

Florence is where i lived, and while it is big on museum stuff, if that isnt your bag, there are literally 1,000 other historical buildings and sites to see. And it that still isnt your thing, there is always just chilling in a piazza with a coffee, of which there are dozens of (piazzas, that is).

Pisa is basically a 3rd rate city with a train station a long walk away from its main attraction, with not much in between.

Florence can lose half its landmarks and still be a destination. Pisa only has one thing going, and thats only impressive because of its accidental situation. Architecturally, the tower and Duomo are fine, but there are better examples of their styles within Tuscany alone.


Yeah, Florence was a stop on our honeymoon and we loved it.  More than Rome.


farkeruk: That said, the Eiffel Tower gets real busy then.


I highly recommend doing the walking option for the Eiffel Tower when overly crowded.  A pretty good workout, but little to no lines.  It won't get you to the very top, but the view isn't much better from all the way up there anyway.


i.r.id10t:

Or, buy a Porsche now, do factory pickup, tour Germany, ship it back as a used car.  Slightly cheaper than buying at a dealer here in the US, certainly more exciting

I wanted to do the BMW version of that, but a couple of kids got in the way these past 2 years so making the trip over there wasn't as easy.  Maybe in a few years.
 
2014-06-17 01:10:51 PM

fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!



Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).
 
2014-06-17 01:19:14 PM

Jamieboy: Gibraltar is a total rip.  But if you are in the neighborhood, by all means give it a look.  Same for the Temple Bar in Dublin.  Just keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your junk in both places.


I wonder if that panhandler who was sitting between two ATMs is still there in the Temple Bar district? Because that shiat was classy as all hell.

/he'd shake his tin cup at you when your transaction finished
 
2014-06-17 01:20:52 PM

learn2fly: mekkab: learn2fly: I'm going to Vegas for the first time this weekend. Any tips for a newbie?

that depends, do you like hiking?  Great little canyons a short drive outside of town.

I'm not into hiking to much, but I am and amateur photographer...I'm trying to find some out of the way place great for shooting.


If you are into sightseeing, of course you need to walk the Strip, both daytime and at night. There is the fountain show in front of the Bellagio hotel, the botanical gardens of the Wynn hotel, and one of the towers of the Rio (just off the Strip) has an open-air club at the top, which has an unobstructed view of the entire city and surrounding valley in all directions.

If you are a fan of classic architecture, then you need to visit the shops of the Bellagio hotel (on the Strip), and of course Caesars Palace and The Venetian. Planet Hollywood's mall area has an arched ceiling painted like the sky over Vegas. It is so real looking, that you can easily forget you are actually indoors, and that it is actually nighttime outside.
 
2014-06-17 01:21:59 PM

Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).


Alcatraz Island in San Francisco has a reputation among Bay Area locals for being a tourist attraction that does not suck. I highly recommend the audio tour.
 
2014-06-17 01:27:49 PM
My greatest disappointment: Naples, Italy. Heaps of trash everywhere, every historical building and monument is covered in graffiti, and everyone is constantly trying to rip you off.
 
2014-06-17 01:28:38 PM

Another Government Employee: mbillips: Copperbelly watersnake: For me, the worst is Pigeon Forge or I as I like to call it the big stretch of butt ugly you have to drive through to get to the Smokies. There really is no good way around it if you're approaching the Smokies from the north. Most of the places on the list are good places to go if you avoid the tourist traps.

Disney is fun if you have kids. If you don't have kids, there are better amusement parks to go to.

Go through Maryville and Townsend; takes you straight to Gatlinburg along scenic Old State Highway 73 and avoids Pigeon Forge. Takes a bitl longer, but it's a gorgeous drive.

Agreed.  This is the direct way into to Cade's Cove.  And for a bonus, there is a top notch BBQ joint in Townsend.

As for Pigeon itself, it's fun if you have some little kids. Otherwise, avoid.


I really enjoy the Smokies and Cade's Cove is one of my favorites places on Earth. It's the only way I can deal with the touristy nature of Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg.

As for New Orleans, I grew up an hour away from there and I still love the city and the French Quarter, but can't stand Bourbon Street any longer. There is an audience for it and it's underaged kids trying to get drunk and college kids who haven't learned better yet.

I've been to Disney World twice and it exceeded expectations both times. You can do it on the cheap (relatively, of course) if you pack your own food.
 
2014-06-17 01:29:46 PM

Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).


Wind-River Tetons in Wyoming or Glacier National Park in Montana- crystal clear lakes, including some teal ones that outshine the waters in the Bahamas, plenty of trails to suit your athletic tendencies (including those of us who have few) and Huckleberry season is amazing. (Glacier National also has a cool red bus tour, and is close to Canada to allow for a border river tour.) The skies are so rich with stars  because of no light pollution, it will take your breath away.
The only place better for star gazing is the Badlands in South Dakota.

Bonus: Going during Huckleberry Season (early august) means you're passing through Sturgis(Motorcycles!) and Wall Drug(Spaghetti western saloon, anyone?), if you're coming from the east.
 
2014-06-17 01:29:58 PM

Gulper Eel: Orlando turns parents into idiots. My normally-sensible wife wants us to do a family trip to Disney World some summer and all I can think is "Florida in July? How about NO."

Seriously, screw Disney. If you've got little kids take 'em to Story Land or Santa's Village up in New Hampshire. It's way cheaper, it's not usually stupid hot, it's fairly uncrowded except for the North Conway outlet strip, and there's a lot of other things to do other than watching your wallet get hoovered.


We did Disney World in October when I was 17. It was hot as hell for a couple of days, but not too bad the rest of the week. However, my allergies were not really controlled back then and so I had sinus issues from flying in which meant I was pretty miserable after some of the rides, and I avoided others I had really wanted to go on, so that kinda sucked. However, that was a minor annoyance compared to my mother, who made herself the Task Master, and pretty much dragged us place to place at a rate that took a lot of the joy out of everything. And sadly that's like 80% of what I remember from that trip. I'm hoping to get back there one day with the husband so I can actually enjoy the whole trip, but it's behind a few other trips we'd like to make.

And my aunt (mom's sister) took her son to Disney World as soon as she felt he was old enough to enjoy it - I think he was four at the time, but maybe a little older. She and my grandmother dragged the kid to parks for a couple hours a day before he'd beg to go back to the hotel. Because, for him, the highlight of the whole damn trip was the hotel swimming pool.
 
2014-06-17 01:43:19 PM

thesemicullen: I've been to Disney World twice and it exceeded expectations both times. You can do it on the cheap (relatively, of course) if you pack your own food.


Just went back in March and this is good advice.  Stay outside the parks in a time share, yes you can rent them like a hotel room now.  You'll have a much better room with a full kitchen, utensils, dining table, etc.  And you can live without new towels everyday and someone coming in to clean and make your bed.  Buy groceries and make your own meals.  Simple stuff like eggs, cereal, hot dogs and pasta.  Have breakfast and dinner in your room.  Lunch in the park.  Bring a backpack loaded with granola bars and fruit.  Share and refill a water bottle.  Do go out to dinner once or twice while you are there - after all, it is vacation, but you don't need to spend a lot of money on overpriced park food.
 
2014-06-17 01:53:20 PM

germ78: Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).

Alcatraz Island in San Francisco has a reputation among Bay Area locals for being a tourist attraction that does not suck. I highly recommend the audio tour.


there is no way i would be able to do the alcatraz tour without thinking about phil hartman as the tour guide
 
2014-06-17 01:54:57 PM

Eskaminagaga: Civchic: -Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater

Are you referring to the Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas? I have always gone camping a little north of there in the Ouachita National Forest or stayed with relatives in Hot Springs. How is the crater? I have never actually been.


Yep, that's the place - and this will be our first time.  My kids are little and super into digging for stuff/treasure hunting, so that's why we're headed there.  The campground looks nice and is fully equipped (even though we'll be tenting, it's nice to have facilities when you're doing 10 days of travel).  There's enough to do in the surrounding area that we'll keep busy for the three days, probably head to Hot Springs once as well.
 
2014-06-17 01:58:07 PM

Another Government Employee: And when did WDW drop the price on a bottle of water? It was $3.50/bottle when I was last there in 1986 (oh, and don't think you can get away with just using a drinking fountain. They don't have any.)


The bottled water there is a little expensive, but you're way off on the drinking fountain thing - all of the parks have fountains all over the place, at varying heights for both kids and adults.  There are four of them surrounding the Cinderella statue behind the castle, for crying out loud.
 
2014-06-17 01:58:34 PM
Luthien's Tempest:
We did Disney World in October when I was 17. It was hot as hell for a couple of days, but not too bad the rest of the week. However, my allergies were not really controlled back then and so I had sinus issues from flying in which meant I was pretty miserable after some of the rides, and I avoided others I had really wanted to go on, so that kinda sucked. However, that was a minor annoyance compared to my mother, who made herself the Task Master, and pretty much dragged us place to place at a rate that took a lot of the joy out of everything. And sadly that's like 80% of what I remember from that trip. I'm hoping to get back there one day with the husband so I can actually enjoy the whole trip, but it's behind a few other trips we'd like to make.

And my aunt (mom's sister) took her son to Disney World as soon as she felt he was old enough to enjoy it - I think he was four at the time, but maybe a little older. She and my grandmother dragged the kid to parks for a couple hours a day before he'd beg to go back to the hotel. Because, for him, the highlight of the whole damn trip was the hotel swimming pool.


CSB: Yeah, the 1st time I went to Disney was with my mother and my sister when I was 6 or 7.  The park had only been open for a year or so (dang, I'm old!) but my mom taught us a valuable lesson, when visiting an attraction take your time and enjoy yourself.  We did get to see everything because there wasn't much to it then but we took it slow and my mom pointed out the other people running hither and yon and laughed at them and that stuck with me.  I sometimes have to remind myself to slow down (or my wife will remind me). But that was one of the most valuable lessons I've ever learned.  Now, like I said up thread, we go to Disney every other year or so and we take it slow and if we don't see everything, so what, at least we had fun.
 
2014-06-17 02:02:05 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: Civchic: thisisyourbrainonFark: What about Crawfordsville, Ind.? Anyone? Turkey Run State Park is nearb--

/oh forget it
//the great heartland of this once-wonderful nation is lost on you heathens
///there's a catfish fry

In all seriousness - is it worth an overnight camp stop?  I'm planning a road trip and my way down is all set:

-Hamilton (Ontario) through Detroit to Luna Pier, MI for late breakfast stop
-Lunch in Cincinnati to see the Roebling Bridge
-Camp three nights/2 days at Mammoth Cave
-stop somewhere between Nashville/Memphis
-Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater

Return
-Saturday to visit my sister near Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
-St. Louis early on Sunday to go up the arch (hafta - did it when I was 9)
-camp Sunday night somewhere in Indiana ???
-home on Monday.

I will have a 3 and 5 year old.  And parents in another vehicle.

Turkey Run is one of the few decent camping spots, I think. Canoeing available.


THANKS!  I saw it on the map when I was plotting possible stops and it's about the place we'll be at about supper time.  It caught my eye because we have Turkey Point near here, and your post triggered that.
 
2014-06-17 02:09:45 PM

bungle_jr: germ78: Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).

Alcatraz Island in San Francisco has a reputation among Bay Area locals for being a tourist attraction that does not suck. I highly recommend the audio tour.

there is no way i would be able to do the alcatraz tour without thinking about phil hartman as the tour guide


That would be a bonus for me
 
2014-06-17 02:14:58 PM

Persnickety: thesemicullen: I've been to Disney World twice and it exceeded expectations both times. You can do it on the cheap (relatively, of course) if you pack your own food.

Just went back in March and this is good advice.  Stay outside the parks in a time share, yes you can rent them like a hotel room now.  You'll have a much better room with a full kitchen, utensils, dining table, etc.  And you can live without new towels everyday and someone coming in to clean and make your bed.  Buy groceries and make your own meals.  Simple stuff like eggs, cereal, hot dogs and pasta.  Have breakfast and dinner in your room.  Lunch in the park.  Bring a backpack loaded with granola bars and fruit.  Share and refill a water bottle.  Do go out to dinner once or twice while you are there - after all, it is vacation, but you don't need to spend a lot of money on overpriced park food.


Eh, we've always done one of the Disney dining plans.  Sure, we could save money and I love to cook.  But preparing my own food is the last thing I want to do on vacation.
 
2014-06-17 02:15:31 PM

bobothemagnificent: fireclown: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.

Baltimore is a tourist spot if you're transporting drugs from Miami to New York.  It's become more disappointing over the years as more of the fun spots are shut down due to being caught serving underage people.  Now all that it's good for is a spot for the Ravens to play and a really awesome hospital.  2 blocks beyond the inner harbor and some of the office buildings or stadiums, you will end up taking your life into your own hands.


During the last Census Baltimore was the only place in the US where a Census worker was murdered.
 
2014-06-17 02:20:18 PM
Nassau - true, you're a rich American, right?
Liberty Island - half true, although I enjoyed the rather serene experience
Disney World - half true, so go during off-peak days
Las Vegas - half true, if you plan on gambling at 3:00 am
 
2014-06-17 02:48:46 PM

ds_4815: Epcot's dining selection is farking great


Which planet's Epcot are you talking about now?

www.disneyfoodblog.com
 
2014-06-17 02:50:02 PM

Fissile: bobothemagnificent: fireclown: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Who ever built up Baltimore as a tourist spot?  I'm kind of a Baltimore supporter (I went to college there), but Charm City is generally known as a city with some very real problems.

Baltimore is a tourist spot if you're transporting drugs from Miami to New York.  It's become more disappointing over the years as more of the fun spots are shut down due to being caught serving underage people.  Now all that it's good for is a spot for the Ravens to play and a really awesome hospital.  2 blocks beyond the inner harbor and some of the office buildings or stadiums, you will end up taking your life into your own hands.

During the last Census Baltimore was the only place in the US where a Census worker was murdered.


hey, you get, or you get got.
 
2014-06-17 02:54:42 PM

Rapmaster2000: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

What if I have really low expectations for St. Louis and Baltimore?


Here, I'll help with Baltimore.

You know who got so sick and tired of Baltimore he decided to hit the road?

John Waters.

/now, that's saying something
 
2014-06-17 03:16:48 PM

Joe Peanut: Honolulu HI, specially Waikiki beach.  Honolulu feels like a mixture between Reno and Miami. And Waikiki is a narrow strip of sand next to a wall of hotels, each with either a DJ or a lounge singer at the beach front bar/restaurant.


Hawaii is great if you know your way around - if not, you're better off staying home.
 
2014-06-17 03:17:41 PM

Loadmaster: Las Vegas - half true, if you plan on gambling at 3:00 am


My guess is the author of that article hasn't been to Vegas in a couple decades.  Vegas is pretty much a huge theme park with 5 star lodging and dining.  There's a ton of things to do outside of gambling and the smoky casinos is pretty much becoming extinct.
 
2014-06-17 03:17:41 PM

Eskaminagaga: o'really: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Not sure how busan was disappointing. That's my favorite city in korea.

Families sleeping on the beach cuz it's so hot out? How cool is that? I love how safe korea is.

Amazing seafood, great clubs. Bartenders who do crazy synchronized dances just for fun, on a weeknight.

I was expecting more of a city like Seoul; It just did not live up to that. It was a nice city other than that and i still enjoyed my time there.


I'm not a fan of seoul, it's super sketchy. At least around the army base, i didn't spend much time there though.
 
2014-06-17 03:31:52 PM
LadySusan:

If you get a car the Red Rock Canyon state park is worth it or Death Valley, or Joshua Tree National Park, or the farking Mojave desert. Get a map.


What's this map that you speak of?
 
2014-06-17 03:42:44 PM
I'll quibble with a few.

Vegas is actually fun, if you approach it right. If you don't like gambling, there's a TON of shows and they're not remotely overpriced if you employ any effort at all. Cirque shows are the exception, but at very least I know KA is worth every dime.

And if you DO gamble, but do so smartly, and use a players' card, Vegas can be ridiculously cheap. Inexpensive rooms, cheap/free food and drink, free or discounted show tickets. Get a Caesar's TotalRewards card.  I have yet to pay for a room in Vegas, other than new years eve. And the 24-hour buffet of buffet passes can get you four enormous meals and innumerable snacks over 24 hours.  If you pay anything other than the dollar tip for a drink at a casino, you're doing it wrong.  And I've had fantastic food there.  Cheap or good value dining options abound.  And again, that's if you do NOT gamble -- if you do, comps are plentiful. They'll do anything to keep you inside pushing buttons...

I find Old Vegas a pretty mixed bag. It's a little depressing, but it has weird old glamor to it that's lacking in the massive new Vegas powerhouses.  That said, it's totally worth doing the many expeditions that set off from Vegas.


I just totally disagree with Disney World, which is still one of the best values for your dollar.  I went there last 20 years ago and STILL didn't see everything on offer.  My friend started going a couple years ago as an adult, and loves it.


Overall, this has the "cranky rant" style common to under-employed hacks. there's no facts and no defense, it's just an opinion piece written to get hits.  At least show me how tourists evaluate the things you claim suck.
 
2014-06-17 03:58:43 PM

slave2grind: Stone Mountain, Ga.
Nuff said.


Get yourself a bucket of KFC, a gallon of sweet tea, a group of friends and go to the laser show. People watching doesn't get much more entertaining than that. Every southern stereotype from Confederate flag waving hillbillies to urban hip-hop wannabes is well represented. And watching a large crowd of people cheer for a Coca-Cola commercial being projected by lasers onto the side of a giant granite mountain with Civil War general carved into while fireworks go off around you it is an uniquely American experience.
 
2014-06-17 04:28:07 PM

12monkeys: slave2grind: Stone Mountain, Ga.
Nuff said.

Get yourself a bucket of KFC, a gallon of sweet tea, a group of friends and go to the laser show. People watching doesn't get much more entertaining than that. Every southern stereotype from Confederate flag waving hillbillies to urban hip-hop wannabes is well represented. And watching a large crowd of people cheer for a Coca-Cola commercial being projected by lasers onto the side of a giant granite mountain with Civil War general carved into while fireworks go off around you it is an uniquely American experience.


Yep.

And you can still hike up to the top and look back on the Atlanta skyline.
 
2014-06-17 04:29:21 PM

Tunney: Hollywood and LA as a whole sucks as a tourist. Vegas is fun for a couple of days though and Gibraltar is just weird.

I agree with Joe Peanut that Waikiki is a little disappointing. There's a whole lot of hotel and not much sand. Still, there's plenty of good restaurants and you're only an hour or so from a lot of great beaches.


Oh, no, no, no.  I'm a third generation LA native.  You are right that Hollywood sucks.  However, LA absolutely does not suck - it is one of the world's great cities and you would absolutely love it if you saw the right parts.  Give me a week to show you around and you'd be ready to move to LA.  I've done this with a bunch of people over the years.  Once you see the good stuff (which isn't in any of the tourist guides) you'll love the city.

As for the rest of the list here, I've only been to a few of these places.  Temple Bar was expensive and full of tourists, but I had a decent time.  I spent the rest of my evenings in Ireland in pubs away from there, which were even better.

Disneyland is one of the great pits of hell.  You pay about $100 for the privilege of standing in line with a bunch of anxious children.  The food is fantastically overpriced and mediocre, at best.  No.  Just no.

I love Las Vegas.  Gambling on the Strip is for suckers.  But there's a lot of cheap food and drink, which is awesome.  So is the peoplewatching - Circus Circus has an amazing amount of... interesting people to see.  I usually go watch some seedy weddings, too.  Vegas is endlessly amusing.  Just don't gamble.  I usually waste about $5 on the slots and then feel guilty about it.
 
2014-06-17 04:48:37 PM

L.D. Ablo: I usually waste about $5 on the slots and then feel guilty about it.


I happened to hit $300 doing that.  It paid for me to gamble and drink for the rest of the week in Vegas.  Free drinks at the $0.25 slots and a couple of bucks for the waitress every few drinks.

Except when I accidentally ordered a liter of beer from "Mermaids".  I didn't think that footbal HELD that much.  The shadiest, dirtiest casino I've ever seen.  I was actually propositioned by a pimp calling me "Johnny" and the roof leaked (I was there in the rainy season).
 
2014-06-17 04:56:02 PM

Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).


Um... Have you been to hawaii? Snorkeling there is amazing.

I went scuba diving in Bali, and the reefs were pretty much nonexistent. Some pretty fish, but that's it. Not sure where you went to see great snorkeling.

Bali is very nice otherwise. No harassing vendors and very chill. Beautiful rice paddies and whatnot.
 
2014-06-17 05:01:19 PM

KidneyStone: Nassau is a GREAT place to stay. Just GTFO of the where the cruise ships dock. There's a great Indian restaurant at the edge of downtown and Arawak Cay has great restaurants (it's where locals go out for food).

Avoid going over the hill after dark


Went to Nassau with my wife this spring.  Got the 'no-no' finger from a jitney bus driver when we went over the hill in broad daylight.  Had some delicious Strong Back Stouts at Oh Andro's on Arawak Cay.  And the public library was a neat, forgotten little place.
 
2014-06-17 05:05:21 PM

Civchic: thisisyourbrainonFark: Civchic: thisisyourbrainonFark: What about Crawfordsville, Ind.? Anyone? Turkey Run State Park is nearb--

/oh forget it
//the great heartland of this once-wonderful nation is lost on you heathens
///there's a catfish fry

In all seriousness - is it worth an overnight camp stop?  I'm planning a road trip and my way down is all set:

-Hamilton (Ontario) through Detroit to Luna Pier, MI for late breakfast stop
-Lunch in Cincinnati to see the Roebling Bridge
-Camp three nights/2 days at Mammoth Cave
-stop somewhere between Nashville/Memphis
-Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater

Return
-Saturday to visit my sister near Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
-St. Louis early on Sunday to go up the arch (hafta - did it when I was 9)


No, in St. Louis go to the City Museum at Washington & 14th I think.  It is an artistic playground for kids and adults.  You will not be sorry.
 
2014-06-17 08:20:05 PM

DrPainMD: List fails without Bourbon Street. Yeah, the bars are cool, but they're crowded. The food is awesome, but the entire French Quarter Bourbon Street smells like fermenting vomit and rotting urine. And check for an adam's apple on that hot chick who wants to blow you.


The Quarter is just fine if you stay off Bourbon Street, and avoid it during Mardi Gras. Go two blocks north of Bourbon, and the tourists disappear while the bars and restaurants just get better. And Bourbon Street is OK, if that's what you're looking for (a couple decent jazz places, and strip clubs that are very thinly veiled whorehouses). It's not fake decadence; it is the really and for true.
 
2014-06-17 08:23:26 PM

12monkeys: slave2grind: Stone Mountain, Ga.
Nuff said.

Get yourself a bucket of KFC, a gallon of sweet tea, a group of friends and go to the laser show. People watching doesn't get much more entertaining than that. Every southern stereotype from Confederate flag waving hillbillies to urban hip-hop wannabes is well represented. And watching a large crowd of people cheer for a Coca-Cola commercial being projected by lasers onto the side of a giant granite mountain with Civil War general carved into while fireworks go off around you it is an uniquely American experience.


^QFT. I haven't been in probably 20 years; I need to go do that again. I'll probably spike the sweet tea with bourbon.
 
2014-06-17 08:25:45 PM

o'really: Eskaminagaga: o'really: Eskaminagaga: The places that i have been dissapointed with are Boston, St. Louis, Baltimore, and Busan.

Not sure how busan was disappointing. That's my favorite city in korea.

Families sleeping on the beach cuz it's so hot out? How cool is that? I love how safe korea is.

Amazing seafood, great clubs. Bartenders who do crazy synchronized dances just for fun, on a weeknight.

I was expecting more of a city like Seoul; It just did not live up to that. It was a nice city other than that and i still enjoyed my time there.

I'm not a fan of seoul, it's super sketchy. At least around the army base, i didn't spend much time there though.


Seoul is OK; kinda antiseptic. Lots of spectacular-looking girls, but you see that in any capital city.
 
2014-06-17 08:27:15 PM

MBooda: ds_4815: Epcot's dining selection is farking great

Which planet's Epcot are you talking about now?

[www.disneyfoodblog.com image 500x375]


I ate at an excellent Mexican place there. You want to get the good food at Disney, you don't eat at the walkup food stands.
 
2014-06-17 09:43:02 PM

Muta: buntz: The Canadian of the Falls isn't much better.

Yes, you have a better view of the Falls.  Then......what?

Clifton Hill?  19 wax museums and tourists.

Niagara on the Lake.  Plenty of good food, good wine, good theater and a cool (ish) fort.


I'm from there!

/csb
 
2014-06-17 11:16:24 PM
11 if you count in the artificial vagina article on the side tab.
 
2014-06-18 12:16:48 PM

o'really: Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).

Um... Have you been to hawaii? Snorkeling there is amazing.

I went scuba diving in Bali, and the reefs were pretty much nonexistent. Some pretty fish, but that's it. Not sure where you went to see great snorkeling.

Bali is very nice otherwise. No harassing vendors and very chill. Beautiful rice paddies and whatnot.



Mostly on the north side of Bali, Menjangan Island especially.
 
2014-06-18 12:49:10 PM

Sybarite: o'really: Sybarite: fireclown: A better approach to this thread would be "What is someplace that really farking delivers.".

I'll start:  The Taj Mahal.  Yeah, it's crowded, and traveling in India is not without it's problems, but the thing is freaking gorgeous, and on top of it the unique combination of Hindu and Muslim architecture makes it all the cooler.

GO!


Bali, Indonesia. Some of the most amazing beaches and best snorkeling I've ever experienced. Descriptions and pictures are inadequate to the beauty of the place. The second time I went I did a bicycle tour which took me to some really awesome places you don't see if you simply stick to the beaches (which I don't blame anyone for).

Um... Have you been to hawaii? Snorkeling there is amazing.

I went scuba diving in Bali, and the reefs were pretty much nonexistent. Some pretty fish, but that's it. Not sure where you went to see great snorkeling.

Bali is very nice otherwise. No harassing vendors and very chill. Beautiful rice paddies and whatnot.


Mostly on the north side of Bali, Menjangan Island especially.


3,183 days without an accident.

resources3.news.com.au
 
2014-06-18 02:24:57 PM

Civchic: thisisyourbrainonFark: Civchic: thisisyourbrainonFark: What about Crawfordsville, Ind.? Anyone? Turkey Run State Park is nearb--

/oh forget it
//the great heartland of this once-wonderful nation is lost on you heathens
///there's a catfish fry

In all seriousness - is it worth an overnight camp stop?  I'm planning a road trip and my way down is all set:

-Hamilton (Ontario) through Detroit to Luna Pier, MI for late breakfast stop
-Lunch in Cincinnati to see the Roebling Bridge
-Camp three nights/2 days at Mammoth Cave
-stop somewhere between Nashville/Memphis
-Camp three days/4 nights at Diamond Crater

Return
-Saturday to visit my sister near Lake of the Ozarks, MO.
-St. Louis early on Sunday to go up the arch (hafta - did it when I was 9)
-camp Sunday night somewhere in Indiana ???
-home on Monday.

I will have a 3 and 5 year old.  And parents in another vehicle.

Turkey Run is one of the few decent camping spots, I think. Canoeing available.

THANKS!  I saw it on the map when I was plotting possible stops and it's about the place we'll be at about supper time.  It caught my eye because we have Turkey Point near here, and your post triggered that.


I go to Turkey Run every December (in the inn) and camp there every few years. It's not bad, but know in advance that 1) Sugar Creek (the local river) is often really dry in the summer and fall, and 2) most of the camp lots there are "wooded" in the sense that there are a few trees in the middle of a field and around the outside of the camp area. That's about what should be expected at any state park in the area; Indiana Dunes and Starved Rock (in IL) are the same way. The hiking is decent for a non-mountain area though.

Also, make sure to either avoid or be prepared for the covered bridge festival, depending on when your trip is.

/I do enjoy going, or else I wouldn't go back.
 
2014-06-18 06:22:21 PM
You know, this is very subjective, but i found maui to be a huge let down, and supremely boring. Mostly because it was damn near impossible to find really fresh fruits and veggies.

Food was super expensive and not very fresh, nightlife nearly nonexistent.

The temperature and beaches left me craving the music, food and nightlife of Mexico, although Mexico is a hot mess right now.

Snorkeling and clean water was a plus, but it got old.

Another disappointment was mallorca. Outside of palma, it's a sterile, cultureless beach, overpopulated by humorless germans and brits. So bizarre.
 
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