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(Orlando Sentinel)   I think the lesson here is make sure the babysitter you have hired to watch your 9-month-old son is not deaf, has an IQ above 65 and knows what the fark they're doing when it comes to babysitting   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 88
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2014-06-17 01:32:20 AM  
To satisfy those requirements is to rule  out just about anybody that would want to watch your kid.
 
2014-06-17 01:35:47 AM  
Good luck finding someone like that in Florida.
 
2014-06-17 03:17:01 AM  
Gross.
 
2014-06-17 03:19:20 AM  
Well, she wasn't any typical babysitter, she lived there.

Berry was baby-sitting 9-month-old Byron Molina Rios Jr. and his 2-year-old sister in the Sanford apartment she shared with their mother
 
2014-06-17 03:19:25 AM  
Shouldn't the parents bear at least some of the responsibility for this? I mean, a deaf babysitter? An intruder could be murdering your child in the next room and they'd never know. Seriously, WTF were they thinking?
 
2014-06-17 03:23:17 AM  

fusillade762: Shouldn't the parents bear at least some of the responsibility for this? I mean, a deaf babysitter? An intruder could be murdering your child in the next room and they'd never know. Seriously, WTF were they thinking?


As a (not current) Florida resident, I'll tell you exactly what they were thinking:

"With all that extra money we save by having her watch the kids, we can buy more booze at the tavern!"

/sadly not a joke
 
2014-06-17 03:28:35 AM  
It's odd that the article says that "one of" the children turned on the faucet, drowning the 9 month old. No one intelligent enough to read that article is stupid enough to think the 9 month old was the one that turned on the faucet.
 
2014-06-17 03:37:50 AM  
Hope for humanity crushed early today.
 
2014-06-17 03:49:37 AM  
The babysitter had an IQ of 65. I take that to mean that the 20-year-old had the mind of, let's say, a very young teenager, perhaps. That would be the first red flag. (Would I allow a 14-year-old to babysit my [hypothetical] 4-year-old? Yes, with proper references. But a nine-month-old? Absolutely not.) Second red flag: babysitter is deaf. How can you expect her to hear a child screaming in the next room because said child suddenly realizes it's laying in a pile of its own poop?

I get that this was in Florida, but holy crap. In the civilized world, though, there's no way this woman would have been used as a babysitter.

Yes, I realize that a lot of what I've just laid out is highly subjective, circumstantial, and conjectural. It is late and I'm staring at a half-empty bottle of Knob Creek over here.
 
2014-06-17 03:57:15 AM  
If you give a monkey a gun, and it shoots someone, it's not the monkey's fault. Leave a deaf moron in charge of your 9 month old...
 
2014-06-17 04:02:22 AM  
Sad sad stuff.
 
2014-06-17 04:03:40 AM  

Fukuzawa: If you give a monkey a gun, and it shoots someone, it's not the monkey's fault. Leave a deaf moron in charge of your 9 month old...


Hey now, that's pretty insensitive.

They prefer "Floridian"
 
2014-06-17 04:08:30 AM  
I wonder how much FB surfing you can do with a 65 IQ.
 
2014-06-17 04:11:54 AM  

wildcardjack: I wonder how much FB surfing you can do with a 65 IQ.

All

of it. You can do all the facebook with a 65 IQ.
 
2014-06-17 04:11:55 AM  

wildcardjack: I wonder how much FB surfing you can do with a 65 IQ.


Use a stopwatch and get back to us when you've found out...
 
2014-06-17 04:20:44 AM  

Fukuzawa: If you give a monkey a gun, and it shoots someone, it's not the monkey's fault. Leave a deaf moron in charge of your 9 month old...


Are you deliberately trying to be offensive, or what?
 
2014-06-17 04:25:25 AM  

maram500: It is late and I'm staring at a half-empty bottle of Knob Creek over here.


Don't be so negative. That bottle is half-full. Well, maybe not now...
 
2014-06-17 04:26:10 AM  
www.trbimg.com

"Tell me about the rabbits, George..."
 
2014-06-17 04:34:39 AM  
Were they running around like dogs without horses?

/DNRTFA
 
2014-06-17 04:39:35 AM  
The kid died a week later,  clearly it had nothing to do with the babysitter.

I'd suggest investigating the hospital,  they're the real culprits here.
 
2014-06-17 04:45:40 AM  
What a sad horrible world
 
2014-06-17 04:52:36 AM  
How is babby drownd?
 
2014-06-17 05:07:56 AM  
And is not the dingo in charge of the FCC.
 
2014-06-17 05:07:58 AM  
So yeah the family says let's hire the gimp and pay her $3 an hour.  People are truly idiots.
 
2014-06-17 05:09:56 AM  
For shame, Subby. It's not as if the parents chose the worst possible...

[Other TFAs]

Berry's parents, Thomas and Susan Berry, adopted Mariah at age 14 after she'd been in 30 foster homes. ... she suffered from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, they said. She was born to parents who subjected her to "severe neglect and abuse," they wrote, and were addicted to methamphetamines. "While living with our family, Mariah exhibited multiple personalities and functioned overall on the level of a 12 to 13-year-old,"....

At Berry's sentencing hearing June 3, the baby's mother, Erika Zaccour, gave the judge a letter ... up until a few weeks ago still believed this to be an 'accident,' " the mother wrote. But she now sees the death as the result of gross negligence,


On that I'd have fo agree.
 
2014-06-17 05:19:21 AM  
Being deaf should not be the issue as some have brought up. There are many deaf parents
out there that are capable of looking after a child. What, should people not have children because they are deaf?
(Maybe I shouldn't ask that on Fark.)
No, the low IQ, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder should be the issue.
 
2014-06-17 05:20:11 AM  
Breaks my heart. There is nothing worse than this. The parents are also obviously mentally deficient for thinking this girl to be competent enough to mind small children.
 
2014-06-17 05:22:01 AM  

gerbilpox: For shame, Subby. It's not as if the parents chose the worst possible...

[Other TFAs]

Berry's parents, Thomas and Susan Berry, adopted Mariah at age 14 after she'd been in 30 foster homes. ... she suffered from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, they said. She was born to parents who subjected her to "severe neglect and abuse," they wrote, and were addicted to methamphetamines. "While living with our family, Mariah exhibited multiple personalities and functioned overall on the level of a 12 to 13-year-old,"....

At Berry's sentencing hearing June 3, the baby's mother, Erika Zaccour, gave the judge a letter ... up until a few weeks ago still believed this to be an 'accident,' " the mother wrote. But she now sees the death as the result of gross negligence,

On that I'd have fo agree.


Completely and utterly agree. This situation was brought about--eiother directly or indirectly--by the infant's parents. They knew how their babysitter would act, they knee t hands into which ty placed their children.

Is it truly a surprise that any harm at all came to these children?
 
2014-06-17 05:23:14 AM  

ckevinc: Being deaf should not be the issue as some have brought up. There are many deaf parents
out there that are capable of looking after a child. What, should people not have children because they are deaf?
(Maybe I shouldn't ask that on Fark.)
No, the low IQ, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder should be the issue.


The deafness contributes to the giant question of why in god's name these parents chose to leave their kids with this woman. It isn't the sole reason for the question.
 
2014-06-17 05:33:16 AM  

maram500: The babysitter had an IQ of 65. I take that to mean that the 20-year-old had the mind of, let's say, a very young teenager, perhaps. That would be the first red flag. (Would I allow a 14-year-old to babysit my [hypothetical] 4-year-old? Yes, with proper references. But a nine-month-old? Absolutely not.) Second red flag: babysitter is deaf. How can you expect her to hear a child screaming in the next room because said child suddenly realizes it's laying in a pile of its own poop?

I get that this was in Florida, but holy crap. In the civilized world, though, there's no way this woman would have been used as a babysitter.

Yes, I realize that a lot of what I've just laid out is highly subjective, circumstantial, and conjectural. It is late and I'm staring at a half-empty bottle of Knob Creek over here.


So deaf people shouldn't have kids?
 
2014-06-17 05:33:45 AM  

gerbilpox: For shame, Subby. It's not as if the parents chose the worst possible...

[Other TFAs]

Berry's parents, Thomas and Susan Berry, adopted Mariah at age 14 after she'd been in 30 foster homes. ... she suffered from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, they said. She was born to parents who subjected her to "severe neglect and abuse," they wrote, and were addicted to methamphetamines. "While living with our family, Mariah exhibited multiple personalities and functioned overall on the level of a 12 to 13-year-old,"....

At Berry's sentencing hearing June 3, the baby's mother, Erika Zaccour, gave the judge a letter ... up until a few weeks ago still believed this to be an 'accident,' " the mother wrote. But she now sees the death as the result of gross negligence,

On that I'd have fo agree.


Wonder if they figured out someway that a lawsuit for wrongful death against 65 IQ will get them a nice payday
 
2014-06-17 05:36:39 AM  

maram500: moron


mo·ron
a stupid person.

/Apt not cruel
 
mhd
2014-06-17 05:41:21 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-17 05:43:16 AM  
Anne Frank did the best should could.
 
2014-06-17 05:48:35 AM  
Sounds like Darwin by proxy.
/Poor kids.
 
2014-06-17 05:52:11 AM  
My son is a week from 9 months old, so I do feel kind of bad for laughing at some of these comments....
Btw anyone know what's up with this part:
On Monday he called Galluzzo's sentence extreme and unfair, adding that other Florida women guilty of the same thing - allowing a child to drown in a tub - received far less prison time or none at all.

/only babysitters are his four well-hearing, IQ > 100 grandparents, fortunately
 
2014-06-17 05:56:16 AM  

Ilmarinen: My son is a week from 9 months old, so I do feel kind of bad for laughing at some of these comments....
Btw anyone know what's up with this part:
On Monday he called Galluzzo's sentence extreme and unfair, adding that other Florida women guilty of the same thing - allowing a child to drown in a tub - received far less prison time or none at all.

/only babysitters are his four well-hearing, IQ > 100 grandparents, fortunately


I got that to mean that this is not an uncommon occurance in Florida and most women who accidently drown children in the tub don't get sent to the clink for 15 years.

What struck me about the article was this line:

"There's just nothing I can do but punish her for what she's done and hope she gets the appropriate treatment so that when she gets out, everyone will be safe," the judge said.

Like ANYONE comes out of prison better than when they went in.  Ever.
 
2014-06-17 05:58:40 AM  
Wow, these are the worst parents ever for even considering hiring a deaf, low IQ k
 
2014-06-17 06:02:00 AM  

Ambivalence: Like ANYONE comes out of prison better than when they went in.  Ever.


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2014-06-17 06:04:19 AM  
Wow, these are the worst parents ever for even considering hiring a deaf, low IQ kid with childhood trauma as a babysitter. Who was next on their list if this one couldnt do it? Old man Pervo down the road who's a registered sex offender for molesting kids? What were they thinking?
 
2014-06-17 06:08:20 AM  

dopekitty74: maram500: The babysitter had an IQ of 65. I take that to mean that the 20-year-old had the mind of, let's say, a very young teenager, perhaps. That would be the first red flag. (Would I allow a 14-year-old to babysit my [hypothetical] 4-year-old? Yes, with proper references. But a nine-month-old? Absolutely not.) Second red flag: babysitter is deaf. How can you expect her to hear a child screaming in the next room because said child suddenly realizes it's laying in a pile of its own poop?

I get that this was in Florida, but holy crap. In the civilized world, though, there's no way this woman would have been used as a babysitter.

Yes, I realize that a lot of what I've just laid out is highly subjective, circumstantial, and conjectural. It is late and I'm staring at a half-empty bottle of Knob Creek over here.

So deaf people shouldn't have kids?


Deaf people with schizophrenia, dissociative identity disorder, and low IQ probably shouldn't have kids, yes.
 
2014-06-17 06:21:42 AM  

Dirty J1: Wow, these are the worst parents ever for even considering hiring a deaf, low IQ kid with childhood trauma as a babysitter. Who was next on their list if this one couldnt do it? Old man Pervo down the road who's a registered sex offender for molesting kids? What were they thinking?


All the dingos were booked.
 
2014-06-17 06:23:09 AM  

dopekitty74: maram500: The babysitter had an IQ of 65. I take that to mean that the 20-year-old had the mind of, let's say, a very young teenager, perhaps. That would be the first red flag. (Would I allow a 14-year-old to babysit my [hypothetical] 4-year-old? Yes, with proper references. But a nine-month-old? Absolutely not.) Second red flag: babysitter is deaf. How can you expect her to hear a child screaming in the next room because said child suddenly realizes it's laying in a pile of its own poop?

I get that this was in Florida, but holy crap. In the civilized world, though, there's no way this woman would have been used as a babysitter.

Yes, I realize that a lot of what I've just laid out is highly subjective, circumstantial, and conjectural. It is late and I'm staring at a half-empty bottle of Knob Creek over here.

So deaf people shouldn't have kids?


I'd imagine that when deaf people have children they arrange certain accommodations that this person probably did not have.  For example, they have baby monitors that activate lights or vibrations rather than just transmitting sound.  They would still likely need to check on the child more frequently.  That would probably be a larger hurdle for the typical babysitter, who is often younger, or for someone like this, who is otherwise disadvantaged in multiple ways.  It makes any inattention more risky.
 
2014-06-17 06:50:45 AM  
How about the judge that sentenced a retarded woman to 15 years of hard time for an accident?
 
2014-06-17 06:53:06 AM  

HotWingAgenda: It's odd that the article says that "one of" the children turned on the faucet, drowning the 9 month old. No one intelligent enough to read that article is stupid enough to think the 9 month old was the one that turned on the faucet.


Was it The Good Son?
 
2014-06-17 06:53:47 AM  
But the bible said to take everyone on faith.
 
2014-06-17 06:54:24 AM  

maram500: ckevinc: Being deaf should not be the issue as some have brought up. There are many deaf parents
out there that are capable of looking after a child. What, should people not have children because they are deaf?
(Maybe I shouldn't ask that on Fark.)
No, the low IQ, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder should be the issue.

The deafness contributes to the giant question of why in god's name these parents chose to leave their kids with this woman. It isn't the sole reason for the question.


Because the babysitter was always going on about how she was goodto rabbits and would hug and squeeze them?
 
2014-06-17 06:57:44 AM  
I dunno, subby.. That sounds like a discrimination lawsuit in the making.

/not sure if kidding
 
2014-06-17 07:05:35 AM  

ckevinc: Being deaf should not be the issue as some have brought up. There are many deaf parents
out there that are capable of looking after a child. What, should people not have children because they are deaf?
(Maybe I shouldn't ask that on Fark.)
No, the low IQ, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder should be the issue.


As I see the issue, it is why this young woman was charged in this accident at all. The negligence here falls completely on the parents, but to me the issue is that once this case was brought, the judge announced a six year sentence before she pled no contest and then sentenced her to fifteen years before (according to the article) her attorney gave his final argument. This farking judge should be disbarred, and all his judgements reviewed.
 
2014-06-17 07:16:09 AM  
I think it had everything to do with the IQ part and absolutely nothing to do with the deaf part. Deaf people raise kids without indecent everyday.
 
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