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(CBS San Francisco)   Old controversy: gays in the military. New controversy: Military at the gay pride parade   (sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com) divider line 6
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2014-06-16 11:19:05 PM  
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meow said the dog: Listen I can see the two sides of the issue of this because it is something upon which I have done quite the thinking of during the past six years of the life of me and will tell this to you that I am glad I am not the judge of this but perhaps if we can see the two sides we can all be those who do the judgings. One side of this says to me that yes of course they should do the playing at the parades of homosexuality. The other side of this says perhaps they should not.

Now the first side says look why would you not do this? You are the military band and would be quite the hit if you did the marching in the parade. Would you have gropings? Yes. But you are in the band in the military. It is like the job of the military of which most will do LAUGHTERINGS OLINGS to you. I KILLED 16 PEOPLE YESTERDAY says Alan to which Richard makes the reply OH YES WHILE I DID THE TUBA PLAYING. So you might as well just do this because you are not otherwise going to get much of the swooning.

The other side of this says why do we wish for doing this as it could seem as the sponsorship of the political issue and might lead the individuals who have the Republican leanings to do further cuttings to the funding of both the military and the arts and perhaps also tell poor people further they should have even less of the health care. Let us not do the poking of these individuals who might have the jealousy of the military of these parades because they must remain the closeted folk to keep the voting of the party of they.

In the conclusion I would say if they do the playing at one parade then they should do them at all because after all is there really such the thing as the parade that is not at least the little bit gay? OH HEY GUYS LET US GO TO THE PARADE FOR THE BACHELOR PARTY OF WE. If the boy said to me HEY LET US GO TO THE PARADE AT THE NIGHT I would think to the self of me that I had the friendzoning but would call Mitch who loves the parades and would just become the wheel of tertiary.

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I recognize the words, but they're not arranged in any organized fashion. I think meow is a robot trying to pass the Turing test.

Anyway, there's no good reason not to do it. It's designed to bring a civil rights issue to the forefront, and - strangely enough - the military has always been at the front of civil rights issues in the past. Now that the ban on homosexuality has been lifted, the military is perfectly right to say "yes, we will participate in this event which helps the morale of a subset of our ranks."

It's no different from a military colorguard participating in a Scottish-style highland games.
2014-06-17 02:56:17 AM  
1 votes:

Bigdogdaddy: So, they honor a criminal and ban the ones that are protecting their rights to have their event?

Good going.  I'm sure this will endear you to all the vets that have supported your cause in the past.


Eh, I think that ship's probably sailed.  One of the major points of agreement that unites the vast majority of gay people and the vast majority of straight people in flawless, unified harmony is that the parade people are a bunch of annoying, supercilious twats.  Verbiage varies but the sentiment is constant, those guys are terrible and no one really wants them around.

Hell, when that became clear to everybody was pretty much when the gay marriage movement really kicked off and started passing everywhere in landslides:

Straight Guy: I dunno, man, gay people are kinda icky.
Gay guy: What?  I'm totally gay, and we have basically identical habits.  See?  That's even my stapler you just borrowed.
Straight guy: Yeah, but what about all the parades and the sequins and assless chaps and shiat?
Gay guy: Oh, yeah, those guys are assholes.
Straight guy: Y'know, now that I think about it, high-visibility straight people always going on about  how straight they are all goddamned jerkasses, too.
Gay guy: We have so much in common, and work's done, let'shiat the bar.
Straight guy: What, like a gay bar?
Gay guy: fark no, places designed around pick-up artist bullshiat are creepy as hell.  Let's find one with a pool table and cheap beer.
Straight guy: Another point of common experience.  I guess we're not so different after all.
Gay guy: Indeed.  Truly a valuable lesson has been learned today.

*exit guys, possibly riding horses into sunset*
*drop "The More You Know(TM)" banner*
2014-06-17 01:19:42 AM  
1 votes:

nyseattitude: Ain't all that keen on them learning books an science now are yah?


I suggest staying away from books that suggest the earth is flat and evolution is a lie.

The US Military is not a place to do transition.  Though perhaps 'survive' is a touch extreme, but in my defense I was thinking about conditions where you might be having to evade enemy soldiers looking for you, where the odds aren't good anyways.  In short, physical and mental performance are still extremely important, and I'm pretty sure losing your testosterone or estrogen would be bad.
2014-06-17 12:45:18 AM  
1 votes:

aerojockey: Chelsea Manning can EABOD though.


Pretty much.  He had two options at the time:
1.  Keep mouth shut, serve remainder of enlistment, get out with no prison sentence, GI Bill, VA loan eligibility, etc...
2.  Go to mental health and confess trannyhood.  Probably get kicked out relatively quickly due to mental/health concerns, still have most of the above intact.
3.  Go 'full tranny', show up in female uniform, get a bad conduct, lose the above, but don't see the inside of prison.

I'm not going to pretend that the DoD isn't leery about transexuals, most of the country still is, and I think there's legitimate questions about the military readiness of somebody on hormone replacement therapy and/or being surgically modified.  IE it's a 'can you survive being suddenly without your meds in austere/extreme conditions?'
2014-06-16 11:35:39 PM  
1 votes:
How about we let them attend, but only if they promise not to tell anyone that they're military?
2014-06-16 09:49:57 PM  
1 votes:
Listen I can see the two sides of the issue of this because it is something upon which I have done quite the thinking of during the past six years of the life of me and will tell this to you that I am glad I am not the judge of this but perhaps if we can see the two sides we can all be those who do the judgings. One side of this says to me that yes of course they should do the playing at the parades of homosexuality. The other side of this says perhaps they should not.

Now the first side says look why would you not do this? You are the military band and would be quite the hit if you did the marching in the parade. Would you have gropings? Yes. But you are in the band in the military. It is like the job of the military of which most will do LAUGHTERINGS OLINGS to you. I KILLED 16 PEOPLE YESTERDAY says Alan to which Richard makes the reply OH YES WHILE I DID THE TUBA PLAYING. So you might as well just do this because you are not otherwise going to get much of the swooning.

The other side of this says why do we wish for doing this as it could seem as the sponsorship of the political issue and might lead the individuals who have the Republican leanings to do further cuttings to the funding of both the military and the arts and perhaps also tell poor people further they should have even less of the health care. Let us not do the poking of these individuals who might have the jealousy of the military of these parades because they must remain the closeted folk to keep the voting of the party of they.

In the conclusion I would say if they do the playing at one parade then they should do them at all because after all is there really such the thing as the parade that is not at least the little bit gay? OH HEY GUYS LET US GO TO THE PARADE FOR THE BACHELOR PARTY OF WE. If the boy said to me HEY LET US GO TO THE PARADE AT THE NIGHT I would think to the self of me that I had the friendzoning but would call Mitch who loves the parades and would just become the wheel of tertiary.

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