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2014-06-16 09:45:17 AM
Shut.

Down.

Everything.
 
2014-06-16 10:27:58 AM
i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-06-16 10:38:14 AM
Heh. Nice headline there subby.
 
2014-06-16 11:53:43 AM
If this is California....

4.bp.blogspot.com

I'll get you a Whoop Whoop
 
2014-06-16 01:29:49 PM
Subby FTW!
 
2014-06-16 01:32:17 PM
Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?
 
2014-06-16 01:33:00 PM
FTA:  CDPH director Ron Chapman also urged parents to get their children vaccinated the soonest time possible. Babies who are at least 6 weeks old can already be given the first dose of whooping cough vaccine. Older children and adults were advised to get vaccinated as well.

Nice try, Libtardos. I'm not falling for it.
 
2014-06-16 01:33:47 PM
I liked timothy's byline on slashdot yesterday: from the hooting-and-hollering-cough-looks-on-enviously dept.
 
2014-06-16 01:36:38 PM
Fortunately, I've got some crystals that prevent that.  It comes with these magnet and copper socks that prevent arthritis - a $39.99 value.
 
2014-06-16 01:37:08 PM
It's spread by birds.
www.allaboutbirds.org
 
2014-06-16 01:39:00 PM
What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.
 
2014-06-16 01:39:36 PM

T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?


I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.
 
2014-06-16 01:39:36 PM

Snarfangel: It's spread by birds.


They do it on porpoise ?
 
2014-06-16 01:43:19 PM
Did they really put a Hollywood tear chip in the little girl's lower eyelid?
 
2014-06-16 01:43:29 PM
God dammit so much.
 
2014-06-16 01:44:14 PM

Pangea: T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?

I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.


I see your point.  But providing validation for people actively seeking it hurts the situation further.  Might they have found someone else to support them?  Maybe.  But McCarthy provides a well known public face in a society where being famous is equated with legitimacy in practically any endeavor.

Its harder for someone to justify their actions when instead of some attractive and famous dimwit they can only find semi-local extremists to support their view points.
 
2014-06-16 01:44:21 PM

luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.


I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.
 
2014-06-16 01:44:22 PM
"what what?"

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-16 01:44:50 PM

Pangea: T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?

I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.


That's true. She's not that charismatic. She's just one loud idiot, among many, who happens to have the platform of celebrity so she can be identified.
 
2014-06-16 01:45:01 PM
Vaccination rates go down, whooping cough goes up.

You can't explain that.

//If this thing mutates or has mutated into a form that can get past the vaccination, I may very well die if I get it.
 
2014-06-16 01:46:56 PM
It's all fun and games until your child sounds like this...

3,458 people in California alone are going through this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIV460AQUWk

and they will for weeks or months.  It's not called the "100 days' cough" for nothing.

fark YOU ALL, ANTIVAXXERS!
 
2014-06-16 01:48:18 PM

Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.


Versus the unsafe ones we've been getting until now? The ones that have always had less formaldehyde than a pear does? Those? They still need punched in the face.
 
2014-06-16 01:48:31 PM
Better a cough than full on retardism
 
2014-06-16 01:49:07 PM

Pangea: T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?

I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.


I'll lay some blame on her.  I believe that the decision to not vaccinate is a fear based decision.  There are legitimate reasons to not vaccinate I know that, but I also know that you should listen to  When your scared to do something then a celeb telling you it's dangerous will most likely outweigh the Dr who tells you it's safe.  Fear based decisions are not rational and will look for anything to validate that particular belief.

I do realize that there are real medical reasons for some kids to not be vaccinated but that is just not the majority of that 'no vaccine' population.
 
2014-06-16 01:49:30 PM
Is this why Arsenio was canceled again.
 
2014-06-16 01:50:11 PM
Parents of disease vectors todders already knew this.
 
2014-06-16 01:50:19 PM

Pitabred: Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.

Versus the unsafe ones we've been getting until now? The ones that have always had less formaldehyde than a pear does? Those? They still need punched in the face.


Oh, I agree, I'm just sayin' what they're sayin'.
 
2014-06-16 01:50:50 PM

Best Princess Celestia: "what what?"

[img.fark.net image 299x169]


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-06-16 01:51:18 PM

meat0918: Vaccination rates go down, whooping cough goes up.

You can't explain that.

//If this thing mutates or has mutated into a form that can get past the vaccination, I may very well die if I get it.


Isn't that sort of how these diseases work? The ones that we blanket-vaccinate for can kill you.

There should be "vaccinated" and "non-vaccinated" zones. Schools and employers should be able to reject people based on this. An individual's right to privacy shouldn't extend past the point where they have the potential to kill innocent people around them.
 
2014-06-16 01:51:47 PM
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com ?
 
2014-06-16 01:52:19 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: Pangea: T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?

I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.

I see your point.  But providing validation for people actively seeking it hurts the situation further.  Might they have found someone else to support them?  Maybe.  But McCarthy provides a well known public face in a society where being famous is equated with legitimacy in practically any endeavor.

Its harder for someone to justify their actions when instead of some attractive and famous dimwit they can only find semi-local extremists to support their view points.

cgraves67: That's true. She's not that charismatic. She's just one loud idiot, among many, who happens to have the platform of celebrity so she can be identified.

Jenny would never have been an anti-vaxxer (and there would likely be no anti-vaxxers except a few true loons and certain religions such as the Jehovah's Witnesses) were it not for (ex-)Dr. Andrew Wakefield, arguably one of the most evil men on the planet. He's personally albeit indirectly responsible for many dead kids and thousands of miserably suffering kids, all to fatten his own wallet.

His "study" didn't just have shoddy methodology, and didn't even merely willfully misrepresent the conclusions from the data. He actually made up the data! All to scare up demand for his proposed replacement "safe" vaccine.
 
2014-06-16 01:53:24 PM

Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.


Like Global warming became climate change?
 
2014-06-16 01:53:39 PM
www.priceking.com
 
2014-06-16 01:54:30 PM
I have a baby who is vaccinated against whooping cough, but that isn't 100%, so I have something to say:

If you do not get your child vaccinated, I hate you. If you do not get regular boosters on your pertussis vaccine, I frown strongly in your direction because the need to do that isn't as well-publicized and you might not know.

Keep up on your adult vaccines. You can get them at Costco or at chain pharmacies, and it costs like $15.
 
2014-06-16 01:55:18 PM

fat boy: Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.

Like Global warming became climate change?


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-06-16 01:56:00 PM

Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.


To which I reply *bullshiat*

If its not nebulous items called "toxins" that might be in a vaccine its thimerosol, or its that they claim they cause autism, or that they simply aren't effective.  Its always SOMETHING.  The goal posts aren't just moving they are permanently mounted on a flatbed.

The entire movement is predicated upon those who are unable to accept that sometimes ones genetics can deal your children a real shiat deal.  They thus search for a reason, any reason, why its not their fault.  They shouldn't.  Its NOT* their fault.  Its natures dice roll.

*not withstanding things caused by failure to eat a correct diet/take care of oneself etc
 
2014-06-16 01:57:33 PM

COMALite J: Jenny would never have been an anti-vaxxer (and there would likely be no anti-vaxxers except a few true loons and certain religions such as the Jehovah's Witnesses) were it not for (ex-)Dr. Andrew Wakefield, arguably one of the most evil men on the planet. He's personally albeit indirectly responsible for many dead kids and thousands of miserably suffering kids, all to fatten his own wallet.


Lets not excuse the Media from this, who spent YEARS airing 'both sides of the story'.

One guy managing to get a shady study published would have done nothing if almost every news company in the western world didn't only jump on it but exaggerate the already rather suspect claims while failing to give remotely equal time to the massive body of studies that showed no connection betweenthe vaccine and MMR at all.
 
2014-06-16 01:58:53 PM
This gets my vote for Headline of the Week.
 
2014-06-16 01:59:53 PM

COMALite J: Wicked Chinchilla: Pangea: T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?

I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.

I see your point.  But providing validation for people actively seeking it hurts the situation further.  Might they have found someone else to support them?  Maybe.  But McCarthy provides a well known public face in a society where being famous is equated with legitimacy in practically any endeavor.

Its harder for someone to justify their actions when instead of some attractive and famous dimwit they can only find semi-local extremists to support their view points.
cgraves67: That's true. She's not that charismatic. She's just one loud idiot, among many, who happens to have the platform of celebrity so she can be identified.
Jenny would never have been an anti-vaxxer (and there would likely be no anti-vaxxers except a few true loons and certain religions such as the Jehovah's Witnesses) were it not for (ex-)Dr. Andrew Wakefield, arguably one of the most evil men on the planet. He's personally albeit indirectly responsible for many dead kids and thousands of miserably suffering kids, all to fatten his own wallet.

His "study" didn't just have shoddy methodology, and didn't even merely willfully misrepresent the conclusions from the data. He actually made up the data! All to scare up demand for his proposed replacement "safe" vaccine.


My biggest question from that episode?  How in bloody hell did it make it into the Lancet, and then why did it take YEARS to get it recalled?  WTF were the peer reviewers doing?  The study itself that was published was a bag of shiat even before people knew it was made up.
 
2014-06-16 02:00:48 PM

Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.

 
That is one of those arguments that you can always pull out though.  No matter how safe you make it there will always be some people who react negatively.  So basically  you could always make that argument.  I mean, do you have to have a genetic profile on a person and then have the vaccine tailor made for their system?  I'm sure we will get there one day but to say your waiting for that day until you get your kid the shots (which of course they won't get now) is bs in my book.  It's more dangerous to cross the street.
 
2014-06-16 02:01:57 PM
Welcome to Woop Woop. Check out that movie.
 
2014-06-16 02:02:32 PM
I'm more worried about the "whopping cough" also mentioned in the article.  It sounds - big.
 
2014-06-16 02:06:06 PM

SwiftFox: I'm more worried about the "whopping cough" also mentioned in the article.  It sounds - big.


Pic of vaccine:

www.candyconceptsinc.com
 
2014-06-16 02:09:49 PM
Damnit, I have a bad cold and now i'm paranoid
 
2014-06-16 02:09:59 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: Orgasmatron138: luxup: What baffles me is that you can get your head chopped off for telling some people they should vaccinate.  Yet when these illnesses start to pop up again after decades of nothing they refuse to see the connection and what makes it worse is that they are then putting my kids at risk.  All, mind you, while choosing to ignore the science.  There have been cases of whooping cough and a measles outbreak in my general area but am I allowed to biatch about it?  Nope because if you do (like I am now) people will most likely think I am trolling when I am in fact just frustrated with this latest reminder of the stupidity of the average person.

Whatever, got if off my chest.  Get your popcorn.

I think their talking points have changed because of these illnesses. Now they are saying that all they ever said was that they want SAFE vaccines, not no vaccines.

To which I reply *bullshiat*

If its not nebulous items called "toxins" that might be in a vaccine its thimerosol, or its that they claim they cause autism, or that they simply aren't effective.  Its always SOMETHING.  The goal posts aren't just moving they are permanently mounted on a flatbed.

The entire movement is predicated upon those who are unable to accept that sometimes ones genetics can deal your children a real shiat deal.  They thus search for a reason, any reason, why its not their fault.  They shouldn't.  Its NOT* their fault.  Its natures dice roll.

*not withstanding things caused by failure to eat a correct diet/take care of oneself etc


---
Interesting thing about the Autism argument.  Turns out that the vaccination schedule coincides with Autism 'milestones' meaning that when you bring your kid in for his/her shots is when the Dr. is looking for (or should be) signs of Autism.  That is one reason you have these high rates of Autism that seem to correlate with their vaccines.

By not vaccinating you are actually missing opportunities for early diagnosis of, and not preventing Autism.
 
2014-06-16 02:11:07 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: COMALite J: Wicked Chinchilla: Pangea: T-Servo: Thank you, Jenny McCarthy.

/can she be sued for facilitating a public health crisis?

I feel like it's not really fair to blame her. People are skipping the vaccines because they want to skip the vaccines, or something she is saying is resonating with a desire these people already have.  You can find some "celebrity" who is on board with any trend that is bad for us.

People want to believe this stuff. It's not as if she could convince huge swaths of people to do some other thing. She just happens to be a very loud, very annoying voice of the anti-vaxxer movement. Just my $0.02.

I see your point.  But providing validation for people actively seeking it hurts the situation further.  Might they have found someone else to support them?  Maybe.  But McCarthy provides a well known public face in a society where being famous is equated with legitimacy in practically any endeavor.

Its harder for someone to justify their actions when instead of some attractive and famous dimwit they can only find semi-local extremists to support their view points.
cgraves67: That's true. She's not that charismatic. She's just one loud idiot, among many, who happens to have the platform of celebrity so she can be identified.
Jenny would never have been an anti-vaxxer (and there would likely be no anti-vaxxers except a few true loons and certain religions such as the Jehovah's Witnesses) were it not for (ex-)Dr. Andrew Wakefield, arguably one of the most evil men on the planet. He's personally albeit indirectly responsible for many dead kids and thousands of miserably suffering kids, all to fatten his own wallet.

His "study" didn't just have shoddy methodology, and didn't even merely willfully misrepresent the conclusions from the data. He actually made up the data! All to scare up demand for his proposed replacement "safe" vaccine.

My biggest question from that episode?  How in bloody hell did it make it into the Lancet, and then why did i ...


It's almost as though they knew it was bullshiat but the money that would be made from treating the millions of sick children made them look the other way.
 
2014-06-16 02:11:26 PM

YixilTesiphon: I have a baby who is vaccinated against whooping cough, but that isn't 100%, so I have something to say:

If you do not get your child vaccinated, I hate you. If you do not get regular boosters on your pertussis vaccine, I frown strongly in your direction because the need to do that isn't as well-publicized and you might not know.

Keep up on your adult vaccines. You can get them at Costco or at chain pharmacies, and it costs like $15.

many are free if you have health insurance
 
2014-06-16 02:13:05 PM
cgraves67:
That's true. She's not that charismatic. She's just one loud idiot, among many, who happens to have the platform of celebrity so she can be identified.

Yeah, she has a platform, alright.


It's about 10 inches beneath her chin.
 
2014-06-16 02:14:13 PM
How's that shiatty border enforcement working out for you?
 
2014-06-16 02:14:17 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: My biggest question from that episode?  How in bloody hell did it make it into the Lancet, and then why did it take YEARS to get it recalled?  WTF were the peer reviewers doing?  The study itself that was published was a bag of shiat even before people knew it was made up.


This is going back a long time but IIRC the study didn't directly claim the vaccine caused Autism but that there was a potential link between the vaccine and some bowel condition in children with Autism that warranted further study.

Autism was a new and big thing at the time so the Lancet's editors probably thought it was an interesting study even if it didn't make earth shattering claims and so put it in their publication despite the small sample size. A lot of the more questionable issues were only found out later on after it got a lot of attention.
 
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