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(Huffington Post)   Most Americans don't want atheist in-laws. I'm pretty sure most Americans don't want in-laws regardless of religion   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 314
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2014-06-16 10:10:32 AM
I'm an atheist and she's a pagan, we smile and nod a lot at family get togethers.
 
2014-06-16 10:43:36 AM
I wouldn't want any in-laws that want to talk to me about any religion (or lack thereof).

 I have mine, you have yours. if they're the same, we don't need to talk; if they're different, I don't want to be preached at.
 
2014-06-16 11:19:41 AM
Atheists are America's least respected majority.
 
2014-06-16 11:20:07 AM
who the heck wants a fedora wearing redditor for an in law? Or an annoying objectivist?
 
2014-06-16 11:20:08 AM
It shouldn't be surprising that believers want to think their grand kids aren't going to bell.

/atheist
 
2014-06-16 11:20:49 AM
Atheism is Religion.
 
2014-06-16 11:22:14 AM
they forget to mention the people who took the surveys were primarily Christian the rest of the world doesn't care
 
2014-06-16 11:22:55 AM
In-laws, outlaws, what's the difference?
 
2014-06-16 11:23:06 AM
Christians are intolerant?

It's more likely than you think!
 
2014-06-16 11:24:31 AM
You can save money at Christmas time.
 
2014-06-16 11:24:49 AM

Snarfangel: In-laws, outlaws, what's the difference?


My in-laws are outlaws and they aren't wanted here
 
2014-06-16 11:25:22 AM

uncleacid: You can save money at Christmas time.


Christmas is secular, the atheists won that war a long time ago.
 
2014-06-16 11:25:45 AM
My in-laws are a Catholic and a Protestant.  My inability to give a fark about either of their beliefs is confounding enough to make it through most holiday meals and largely keeps the peace.  It also keeps me out of the picture when their born again Uncles and Cousins come out from Kentucky to visit.
 
2014-06-16 11:25:58 AM
Mom wants me to marry an orphan, especially after dealing with my brothers mother in law.
 
2014-06-16 11:26:05 AM
I just want in-laws who don't shove their beliefs down my throat.  And in my experience atheists, evangelicals and vegetarians are all pretty guilty of being overly vocal about their beliefs.
 
2014-06-16 11:26:39 AM
My parents take exception to the fact I don't go to church anymore and am in a serious relationship with a girl whose family isn't religious.  Why should I be forced to raise my hypothetical children to believe in a religion I don't believe in?  They can get better moral upbringing outside the church, all the while avoiding the tinge of us-versus-them.
 
2014-06-16 11:27:28 AM
ya'll make me glad my father in law is somewhere in mexico and my mother in law is no more

of course she also made me glad she's no more as well
 
2014-06-16 11:28:47 AM
Large numbers of Americans really dislike atheists. Gallup poll:

While more than nine in 10 Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who is black, a woman, Catholic, Hispanic, or Jewish, significantly smaller percentages would vote for one who is an atheist (54%) or Muslim (58%). Americans' willingness to vote for a Mormon (80%) or gay or lesbian (68%) candidate falls between these two extremes.
 
2014-06-16 11:30:34 AM
The difference between in-laws and outlaws is that outlaws are wanted.
 
2014-06-16 11:32:22 AM
This just gives me another excuse for being single.
 
2014-06-16 11:32:34 AM
It's amusing that anybody (in America, at least) thinks their children give a shiat what they think of their prospective spouse.

But yeah, go ahead and make your objections known early on. That way they can plan well ahead of time where not to spend all their holidays and how much time you'll be allowed to spend with your grandchildren (ie, as little as they can possibly get away with).

Don't wait until the last minute to reveal what a giant pain in the ass you'll be, so they can make the important decision right now to spend as little time around you as they can. For instance, yap bitterly before the wedding and talk shiat about how you're not happy about their plans so they won't have to bother deciding where you'll sit at the reception. It'll actually be really helpful. The bigger an asshole you are, the less conflicted they'll feel about cutting you out entirely.
 
2014-06-16 11:33:06 AM
When her family looks at her mother and said, "it was supposed to be a son," and when her little brother was born they said, "finally the family is complete," they shouldn't be surprised when dad is just The Biological Sperm Donor and mom's phone calls always go to voice mail.

/at least my side of the family is trying to be ideal in-laws
 
2014-06-16 11:33:12 AM

generallyso: Large numbers of Americans really dislike atheists. Gallup poll:

While more than nine in 10 Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who is black, a woman, Catholic, Hispanic, or Jewish, significantly smaller percentages would vote for one who is an atheist (54%) or Muslim (58%). Americans' willingness to vote for a Mormon (80%) or gay or lesbian (68%) candidate falls between these two extremes.


which makes sense when we look at the main people who speak in regards to athiest matters


and lets be honest though when we look at the people who tend to speak for a particular group, very often they're assholes


thankfully not all atheists are like Richard Dawkins and not all christains are like Pat Robertson and not all muslims are like OBL not all americans are like the Kardashians we can do that for most groups
 
2014-06-16 11:33:33 AM
I'm an atheist, she grew up in a sub-tropic country as the daughter of missionaries.

/Her family likes me alright.
//As far as I'm aware.
 
2014-06-16 11:33:34 AM
Guess I should be happy both my in-laws and my parents have accepted that we are atheists. I do wonder if a battle will occur when we have kids and won't baptize them. Hope not.
 
2014-06-16 11:33:52 AM
Never occurred to me to consult my sisters or parents about this.
You have to live your own life.
 
2014-06-16 11:34:26 AM

generallyso: Large numbers of Americans really dislike atheists. Gallup poll:

While more than nine in 10 Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who is black, a woman, Catholic, Hispanic, or Jewish, significantly smaller percentages would vote for one who is an atheist (54%) or Muslim (58%). Americans' willingness to vote for a Mormon (80%) or gay or lesbian (68%) candidate falls between these two extremes.


What about an atheist lesbian Muslim?
 
2014-06-16 11:35:19 AM
I like my inlaws in large part because they don't talk about religion at all. They've never brought it up. I cannot say that about my parents who have become kind of crazy right-wing tea party types. I've made it clear that we don't talk about religion or politics any more when they visit.
 
2014-06-16 11:36:34 AM

EvilEgg: I wouldn't want any in-laws that want to talk to me about any religion (or lack thereof).

 I have mine, you have yours. if they're the same, we don't need to talk; if they're different, I don't want to be preached at.


Wrapped this one up in 2.
 
2014-06-16 11:36:41 AM

tarheel07: My parents take exception to the fact I don't go to church anymore and am in a serious relationship with a girl whose family isn't religious.  Why should I be forced to raise my hypothetical children to believe in a religion I don't believe in?  They can get better moral upbringing outside the church, all the while avoiding the tinge of us-versus-them.


But where will they get their sense of guilt?! Especially about matters of sexuality! Your children might grow up believing sex is enjoyable and not something to be ashamed of... and where will THAT lead?!
 
2014-06-16 11:36:49 AM

stuhayes2010: I just want in-laws who don't shove their beliefs down my throat.  And in my experience atheists, evangelicals and vegetarians are all pretty guilty of being overly vocal about their beliefs.


But they are all dwarfed by the incredible obnoxiousness that is the people who imagine they have gluten intolerance.  Holiday meals are now a minefield of butthurt.
 
2014-06-16 11:36:58 AM

CruJones: It shouldn't be surprising that believers want to think their grand kids aren't going to bell.

/atheist


That rings true.
 
2014-06-16 11:37:03 AM

stuhayes2010: I just want in-laws who don't shove their beliefs down my throat.  And in my experience atheists, evangelicals and vegetarians are all pretty guilty of being overly vocal about their beliefs.


I think the majority of atheists...90% have no interest in discussing their lack of belief with people who don't share the same views. There will always be outliers...but most of us couldn't care less.
 
2014-06-16 11:37:07 AM
Delta1212:

What about an atheist lesbian Muslim?

www.sundriesshack.com
 
2014-06-16 11:37:26 AM

generallyso: Large numbers of Americans really dislike atheists.


It goes without saying that running for office as a gay, atheist or agnostic Republican is probably a bad idea.  But they might do alright running as a progressive.

As for my in-laws and me being agnostic... my MIL knows and doesn't care.  Rest of the family doesn't know.  We had a minister from a liberal church at our wedding ceremony, so they might assume I'm something.  Either way, I was taught that it is rude to discuss religion in front of polite company so I never bring it up.
 
2014-06-16 11:37:28 AM
Hey, subby...

Nearly half (49 percent) of Americans say they would be unhappy if a member of their immediate family picked an unbeliever for a spouse.

49% isn't "most".

Smelly Pirate Hooker: It's amusing that anybody (in America, at least) thinks their children give a shiat what they think of their prospective spouse.


Nobody in the family can tolerate my FIL's new wife, including(Most of the time) my father in law. Unfortunately, none of the people involved listened to my wife and myself when we pointed out that she was annoying, self-centered, a money vacuum, and pretty much worthless. Now, they're noticing. Been married maybe 5 years(A wedding nobody in the family actually got invited to), and up until 6 months ago when a relative moved in, they'd already started sleeping in completely different bedrooms.

People SHOULD listen to their kids say about their prospective souse. It could save a lot of bullshiat down the line.
 
2014-06-16 11:37:31 AM
Personally, as an atheist, I wouldn't care if my daughter married a Christian, Muslim, someone Jewish or Hindu or whatever, black or white, Asian or any other race, creed or color. As long as they respect her, love her, and treat her as an equal, I'm all good. If SHE chose to join one of those religions that treat women as second class, and it was HER choice, she wanted it, would I be happy? Of course not, but I'd respect if she went into it willingly and knowingly.

Too many people on both sides get their knickers in a twist, and too many on both sides butt their nose in where it doesn't belong. If you're an atheist and your kid marries a "believer", and they have a religious wedding, shut the fark up and go to the wedding with a smile. If they have a kid and baptize it? Go to the ceremony, shut the fark up and eat the food after. If the people getting married are atheists and you're a "believer", and they have a secular wedding? Go to the wedding, shut the fark up and smile, and let them live their lives.
 
2014-06-16 11:38:38 AM
Thats why I got a Mail order bride. In-laws are on the other side of the planet. And I like it that way.
 
2014-06-16 11:39:14 AM
I enjoyed the couple of times they asked me to say grace where I replied "No, let's eat instead"


/they stopped asking
// I usually end up fed regardless
 
2014-06-16 11:39:46 AM

EvilEgg: I wouldn't want any in-laws that want to talk to me about any religion (or lack thereof).

 I have mine, you have yours. if they're the same, we don't need to talk; if they're different, I don't want to be preached at.


It's like we share the same mind.

/Stop touching that.
 
2014-06-16 11:40:13 AM
I'm ignostic. My in-laws are barely able to spell the word, never mind contest it in any real way. My wife is vaguely Christian - she believes in a higher power, but, to paraphrase Lenny Bruce, she left the church to go back to God. She doesn't worry overmuch about my post-mortem disposition, as I'm a generally good person, which appears to be the whole point. I'm OK with irrational hate from people unable to separate fact from fantasy, consideration from conjecture. My own parents care about me a great deal, but don't understand why it is that I don't believe in their God.

It's fun trying to explain to folks that I actually care more about my friends and family because I realize that the only place and time I'll be able to love, honor, and protect them is here and now - I don't do it to benefit myself in some future Heaven. I do it to benefit them here, now, because here and now is all we get. I don't need a supernatural carrot (or stick, for that matter) to provide faith, hope, and love to others. You're supposed to do that, regardless of your "soul"'s perceived future disposition.
 
2014-06-16 11:40:38 AM
I couldn't ask for better in-laws, especially when compared to how my siblings fared.
 
2014-06-16 11:41:11 AM

Delta1212: generallyso: Large numbers of Americans really dislike atheists. Gallup poll:

While more than nine in 10 Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who is black, a woman, Catholic, Hispanic, or Jewish, significantly smaller percentages would vote for one who is an atheist (54%) or Muslim (58%). Americans' willingness to vote for a Mormon (80%) or gay or lesbian (68%) candidate falls between these two extremes.

What about an atheist lesbian Muslim?


Can you provide pictures?
 
2014-06-16 11:42:17 AM
If my very Irish Catholic father-in-law has a problem with it, he is gracious enough to keep it to himself.
I suspect he forgave me when he found out I play Irish fiddle
 
2014-06-16 11:42:17 AM
All well and good.  If you truly don't believe you probably shouldn't marry someone who truly does believe.  "Formerly" religious women who get married and have babies all too commonly suddenly become religious again and that can lead to a lot of marital strife if the husband stands up for what he non-believes.

I know if my wife had been religious I would not have married her.  The only bias I carry is against those who believe in religion.  I try to not think of religious people as less intelligent or lacking in critical thinking skills.  I really do try.  It's just that the belief is so unbelievable to me that I simply cannot understand how anyone of strong intellect can believe it.  I'm not proud of the fact that I automatically think less of the religious. I do my best to keep my disdain in control.  I've always been polite and not ridiculed others for their beliefs, but I strongly reject them.  I even raise my children without bias.  If they ask about god or religion then I explain that lots of people believe lots of different things.  I understand that as their daddy my belief holds extra significance to them, but I would truly prefer that they find their own way on a matter as personal as religion.  Would I be disappointed if they chose religion?  I sure would, but I would never tell them that.  It's a personal choice and it's their choice.
 
2014-06-16 11:43:35 AM

FormlessOne: I'm ignostic. My in-laws are barely able to spell the word,


* raises finger to say something, decides not to *
 
2014-06-16 11:43:56 AM

stuhayes2010: I just want in-laws who don't shove their beliefs down my throat.  And in my experience atheists, evangelicals and vegetarians are all pretty guilty of being overly vocal about their beliefs.


Ah, so you only get along with good, red-blooded meat-eating American Protestants.
 
2014-06-16 11:45:12 AM

Superjew: FormlessOne: I'm ignostic. My in-laws are barely able to spell the word,

* raises finger to say something, decides not to *


*just stares*
 
2014-06-16 11:46:21 AM

Superjew: FormlessOne: I'm ignostic. My in-laws are barely able to spell the word,

* raises finger to say something, decides not to *


it has a wiki entry


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism
 
2014-06-16 11:47:04 AM

czei: stuhayes2010: I just want in-laws who don't shove their beliefs down my throat.  And in my experience atheists, evangelicals and vegetarians are all pretty guilty of being overly vocal about their beliefs.

But they are all dwarfed by the incredible obnoxiousness that is the people who imagine they have gluten intolerance.  Holiday meals are now a minefield of butthurt.


"And last, but not least, nine days worth of urine and fecal matter would be collected."
 
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