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2014-06-16 04:48:46 PM  
What's next? McDonalds and Ohio State? Wendy's and Seven Sisters? ¿Taco Bell and Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México?
 
2014-06-16 05:56:25 PM  
"After being a stockboy at Food Brothel for 4 years, I wasn't happy where my life was going. So I called DeVry. And after 2 short years I earned my certification, and now I'm lead electrical engineer at NASA."
 
2014-06-16 05:59:28 PM  
I'm surprised it gets you that far.
 
2014-06-16 06:00:56 PM  
You've got to pay for that advanced underwater basket weaving degree some how...
 
2014-06-16 06:05:18 PM  
How dare they dilute the pool of indentured servants.
 
2014-06-16 06:05:43 PM  
I chuckled.
 
2014-06-16 06:06:25 PM  

NeuroticRocker: "After being a stockboy at Food Brothel for 4 years, I wasn't happy where my life was going. So I called DeVry. And after 2 short years I earned my certification, and now I'm lead electrical engineer at NASA."


"A financial aid counselor at DeVry helped me change my life, and now I'm only $250k in debt!"
 
2014-06-16 06:08:50 PM  
As somebody who has taken liberal advantage of the tuition reimbursement programs at his previous and current employers, and lives and works in, shall we say, higher-rent areas where even baristas are expected to meet certain minimum standards for decorum and communications skills, all I can say is:

Good.
 
2014-06-16 06:10:23 PM  
There's always the oldest profession to fall back on if needed.
 
2014-06-16 06:10:49 PM  
I saw that story yesterday and actually read it. It was a downgrade. Hell, since ASU costs $10k a year and they're only spotting employees $1k I suspect Starbucks cut a deal to where it only costs them $100, if it doesn't actually turn into a referral commission to Starbucks.
 
2014-06-16 06:11:36 PM  

Salmon: There's always the oldest profession to fall back on if needed.


Stealing fruit?
 
2014-06-16 06:12:27 PM  

Salmon: There's always the oldest profession to fall back on if needed.


The Women of ASU know that already.  Trust me.
 
2014-06-16 06:12:37 PM  

Salmon: There's always the oldest profession to fall back on if needed.


A baker?
 
2014-06-16 06:26:07 PM  

NeuroticRocker: "After being a stockboy at Food Brothel for 4 years, I wasn't happy where my life was going. So I called DeVry. And after 2 short years I earned my certification, and now I'm lead electrical engineer at NASA."


What in hell does NASA use lead for?
 
2014-06-16 06:33:01 PM  
A better plan is to snag a job at a university and get free tuition as a benefit. Even if you're just making photocopies, painting walls, or doing data entry, when you factor in that tuition it's suddenly a pretty good gig.

/ Lots of vacation time at a university, too.
// Tons better than temping where "holiday" means "you don't get paid that day."
 
2014-06-16 06:38:26 PM  

Fear the Clam: A better plan is to snag a job at a university and get free tuition as a benefit. Even if you're just making photocopies, painting walls, or doing data entry, when you factor in that tuition it's suddenly a pretty good gig.

/ Lots of vacation time at a university, too.
// Tons better than temping where "holiday" means "you don't get paid that day."



I hate to break it to you, but not every university offers that benefit.
 
2014-06-16 06:49:44 PM  

Matthew Keene: NeuroticRocker: "After being a stockboy at Food Brothel for 4 years, I wasn't happy where my life was going. So I called DeVry. And after 2 short years I earned my certification, and now I'm lead electrical engineer at NASA."

What in hell does NASA use lead for?


electrical lead obviously.
 
2014-06-16 06:52:21 PM  
Stupid ASU.

People don't believe me when I tell them to go to U of A if they're going the in-state tuition route.

If you're serious about getting a degree in this state, you'll head down to the old pueblo - programs, alumni, etc is 20 times better than ASU. If you want an off the main track degree in these parts (ag, forestry, etc) you head up to NAU. But if you don't care, if you wanna party, if you don't care about the reputation, go ahead, go to ASU.

This is just more of Crow's little empire building scheme. How can you pay down student debt with a freakin' Sbux job? Seriously?

/true story: schools around here hire from the local Ottawa U campus long before they touch a graduate from ASU
//grew up near ASU, hate it and its rabid little fan club, with a passion
 
2014-06-16 06:53:28 PM  

Salmon: There's always the oldest profession to fall back on if needed.


Farming?
 
2014-06-16 06:54:16 PM  
This isn't new. Every job I've had in retail had some referral program. Most recently it was Acapella University with Home Depot. It's just a partnership
 
2014-06-16 07:16:08 PM  

FizixJunkee: Fear the Clam: A better plan is to snag a job at a university and get free tuition as a benefit. Even if you're just making photocopies, painting walls, or doing data entry, when you factor in that tuition it's suddenly a pretty good gig.

/ Lots of vacation time at a university, too.
// Tons better than temping where "holiday" means "you don't get paid that day."


I hate to break it to you, but not every university offers that benefit.


Explain.  Most campus jobs I'm familiar with are just part-time jobs that paid minimum wage.  I was a part-time research assistant that paid about $10/hr which is pretty unusual.
 
2014-06-16 07:24:51 PM  

raptusregaliter: Stupid ASU.

People don't believe me when I tell them to go to U of A if they're going the in-state tuition route.

If you're serious about getting a degree in this state, you'll head down to the old pueblo - programs, alumni, etc is 20 times better than ASU. If you want an off the main track degree in these parts (ag, forestry, etc) you head up to NAU. But if you don't care, if you wanna party, if you don't care about the reputation, go ahead, go to ASU.

This is just more of Crow's little empire building scheme. How can you pay down student debt with a freakin' Sbux job? Seriously?

/true story: schools around here hire from the local Ottawa U campus long before they touch a graduate from ASU
//grew up near ASU, hate it and its rabid little fan club, with a passion


Well I don't know about all that, since I moved here later; but I will say that Mill Ave and its surrounding area is a depraved hive of scum and villainy
 
2014-06-16 07:30:12 PM  
After they've completed their bachelor's degree, the employees are not obligated to return to employment with Starbucks.

What else are they going to do with an ASU degree?
 
2014-06-16 07:40:17 PM  
NeuroticRocker: "After being a stockboy at Food Brothel for 4 years, I wasn't happy where my life was going. So I called DeVry. And after 2 short years I earned my certification, and now I'm lead electrical engineer at NASA."

Matthew Keene: What in hell does NASA use lead for?


They need the extra gravity.
 
2014-06-16 07:52:31 PM  

Ontos: Salmon: There's always the oldest profession to fall back on if needed.

Stealing fruit?


Someone has to pick the fruit first. I am going with "fruit picker"
 
2014-06-16 07:58:22 PM  
What an evil corporation.
 
2014-06-16 08:07:48 PM  

packman_jon: FizixJunkee: Fear the Clam: A better plan is to snag a job at a university and get free tuition as a benefit. Even if you're just making photocopies, painting walls, or doing data entry, when you factor in that tuition it's suddenly a pretty good gig.

/ Lots of vacation time at a university, too.
// Tons better than temping where "holiday" means "you don't get paid that day."


I hate to break it to you, but not every university offers that benefit.

Explain.  Most campus jobs I'm familiar with are just part-time jobs that paid minimum wage.  I was a part-time research assistant that paid about $10/hr which is pretty unusual.


Most, if not all colleges and universities offer their full-time employees a tuition-remission benefit. It means you can take free classes at that institution. There are a few caveats. Generally the way it works is that you need your boss' permission, so that (a) your boss is aware and (b) if your work starts to suffer, or if the coming semester is likely to be intense for your department, your boss can help you balance it or, if necessary, refuse or revoke permission. You're an employee first and the work comes first.

Second caveat, you are generally limited to four or five free classes a year. This limits the school's costs and also ensures you have to stick around awhile to finish your degree.

But yeah, it's a nice perq and especially handy for a master's program, since a lot of those are far shorter than a bachelor's.
 
2014-06-16 08:13:56 PM  

brimed03: packman_jon: FizixJunkee: Fear the Clam: A better plan is to snag a job at a university and get free tuition as a benefit. Even if you're just making photocopies, painting walls, or doing data entry, when you factor in that tuition it's suddenly a pretty good gig.

/ Lots of vacation time at a university, too.
// Tons better than temping where "holiday" means "you don't get paid that day."


I hate to break it to you, but not every university offers that benefit.

Explain.  Most campus jobs I'm familiar with are just part-time jobs that paid minimum wage.  I was a part-time research assistant that paid about $10/hr which is pretty unusual.

Most, if not all colleges and universities offer their full-time employees a tuition-remission benefit. It means you can take free classes at that institution. There are a few caveats. Generally the way it works is that you need your boss' permission, so that (a) your boss is aware and (b) if your work starts to suffer, or if the coming semester is likely to be intense for your department, your boss can help you balance it or, if necessary, refuse or revoke permission. You're an employee first and the work comes first.

Second caveat, you are generally limited to four or five free classes a year. This limits the school's costs and also ensures you have to stick around awhile to finish your degree.

But yeah, it's a nice perq and especially handy for a master's program, since a lot of those are far shorter than a bachelor's.


I should add that it's also a good way to sneak into a program that might not otherwise accept you. Many schools tend to go easier on employees than on off-the-street applicants. So if you can get a job there, you take a few classes, do well, and then matriculate into the program. You can then quit the job and go full-time matriculated... or keep the job and finish the program slowly but for free.

*Nota bene: this method is not guaranteed, YMMV, etc.
 
2014-06-16 08:22:20 PM  

raptusregaliter: Stupid ASU.

People don't believe me when I tell them to go to U of A if they're going the in-state tuition route.

If you're serious about getting a degree in this state, you'll head down to the old pueblo - programs, alumni, etc is 20 times better than ASU. If you want an off the main track degree in these parts (ag, forestry, etc) you head up to NAU. But if you don't care, if you wanna party, if you don't care about the reputation, go ahead, go to ASU.

This is just more of Crow's little empire building scheme. How can you pay down student debt with a freakin' Sbux job? Seriously?

/true story: schools around here hire from the local Ottawa U campus long before they touch a graduate from ASU
//grew up near ASU, hate it and its rabid little fan club, with a passion


Bear Down!
 
2014-06-16 08:25:29 PM  
finals week at ASU


i737.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-16 08:34:50 PM  

wildcardjack: I saw that story yesterday and actually read it. It was a downgrade. Hell, since ASU costs $10k a year and they're only spotting employees $1k I suspect Starbucks cut a deal to where it only costs them $100, if it doesn't actually turn into a referral commission to Starbucks.


You seem to have a couple of facts wrong: 1) it's a program for current Starbucks employees, not for someone who already got the degree who goes to work at Starbucks afterwards. 2) TFA says they cover the full tuition after year 2.
 
2014-06-16 10:59:42 PM  
Can't folks transfer in 2 years of basic curriculum credit from a community college at 1/4 the cost of ASU in Arizona?

This is how I got out with under $30k in student loans, BA, M.S., PhD
 
2014-06-16 11:01:25 PM  

raptusregaliter: 20 times better than ASU.


And 20 × 0 is...?
 
2014-06-16 11:11:04 PM  

voristrupp: Can't folks transfer in 2 years of basic curriculum credit from a community college at 1/4 the cost of ASU in Arizona?


Yeah, but then you'd have the stigma of a community college on your CV

/ Also, one of the Maricopa Community Colleges
 
2014-06-16 11:17:45 PM  

Victoly: voristrupp: Can't folks transfer in 2 years of basic curriculum credit from a community college at 1/4 the cost of ASU in Arizona?

Yeah, but then you'd have the stigma of a community college on your CV

/ Also, one of the Maricopa Community Colleges


Hasn't hurt me.

/Scottsdale CC AA
//NAU BS
///Texas MA
 
2014-06-16 11:18:19 PM  
Sundevil here.  WTF happened to the tuition?  I went from 97-01 and it was a little over a grand a semester from what I remember.
/is a beautiful campus
//guess they have to pay for it somehow
 
2014-06-17 02:53:51 AM  
raptusregaliter:

People don't believe me when I tell them to go to U of A if they're going the in-state tuition route.

If you're serious about getting a degree in this state, you'll head down to the old pueblo - programs, alumni, etc is 20 times better than ASU. If you want an off the main track degree in these parts (ag, forestry, etc) you head up to NAU. But if you don't care, if you wanna party, if you don't care about the reputation, go ahead, go to ASU.


Get real.  U of A only exists because unimaginative Phoenix-area teens want to get away from their parents for four years without having to work at it.  It takes that strong an incentive to tolerate a backward hellhole like Tucson.

Top firms are lining up to cut fat paychecks for Sun Devil engineers, architects, etc.  Yeah, I suppose if advanced basketry is your thing, go ahead and be a Wildkitten.  We'll be up here in civilization making bank and reminiscing about our Rose Bowl appearances.  How many is it now for U of A, remind me?

/why yes, I got my bachelor's and doctoral degrees from ASU and not from North Nogales Tech
//fear the fork
 
2014-06-17 04:33:09 AM  
You can take CC courses over the summer and online while enrolled at a 4 year school.


Your diploma has the same AS name on it.
 
2014-06-17 10:26:02 AM  

bahr: raptusregaliter:

People don't believe me when I tell them to go to U of A if they're going the in-state tuition route.

If you're serious about getting a degree in this state, you'll head down to the old pueblo - programs, alumni, etc is 20 times better than ASU. If you want an off the main track degree in these parts (ag, forestry, etc) you head up to NAU. But if you don't care, if you wanna party, if you don't care about the reputation, go ahead, go to ASU.

Get real.  U of A only exists because unimaginative Phoenix-area teens want to get away from their parents for four years without having to work at it.  It takes that strong an incentive to tolerate a backward hellhole like Tucson.

Top firms are lining up to cut fat paychecks for Sun Devil engineers, architects, etc.  Yeah, I suppose if advanced basketry is your thing, go ahead and be a Wildkitten.  We'll be up here in civilization making bank and reminiscing about our Rose Bowl appearances.  How many is it now for U of A, remind me?

/why yes, I got my bachelor's and doctoral degrees from ASU and not from North Nogales Tech
//fear the fork


Crowe is still an asshat.
 
2014-06-17 04:09:02 PM  

raptusregaliter: Stupid ASU.

People don't believe me when I tell them to go to U of A if they're going the in-state tuition route.

If you're serious about getting a degree in this state, you'll head down to the old pueblo - programs, alumni, etc is 20 times better than ASU. If you want an off the main track degree in these parts (ag, forestry, etc) you head up to NAU. But if you don't care, if you wanna party, if you don't care about the reputation, go ahead, go to ASU.

This is just more of Crow's little empire building scheme. How can you pay down student debt with a freakin' Sbux job? Seriously?

/true story: schools around here hire from the local Ottawa U campus long before they touch a graduate from ASU
//grew up near ASU, hate it and its rabid little fan club, with a passion


Is ASU really that terrible?  I mean, coming from WI, we have UW-Madison with a rep as a massive party school but the UW system is at least respected academically.  When I was living in FL we knew what a joke the U of Miami was unless you played football.  Is ASU more the latter than the former?  My girlfriend was considering an online Film Studies degree from them (for the sake of accomplishment and learning, not for a particular job) but I know she's not going to want to waste her time and money with something that has _zero_ cred.
 
2014-06-17 11:21:46 PM  
Back in the '90s the company I worked for reimbursed me for all my tuition at any college or university if my grade was at least a C.  And my jorb was unloading trucks, picking orders, shipping, customer service and stuff.  And they paid a really good wage.  Paid holidays, vacation, sick time everything.  Plus I got profit sharing, and not a little bit it was on the tune of $5k/year.  Also they had an Employee Stock Ownership Plan above and beyond the profit sharing.  I got burned out on that job though.

/but I still own that stock.  Starbucks isn't the first.
 
2014-06-17 11:41:13 PM  

NeuroticRocker: "After being a stockboy at Food Brothel for 4 years, I wasn't happy where my life was going. So I called DeVry. And after 2 short years I earned my certification, and now I'm lead electrical engineer at NASA."


I thought one had to select from useless non-STEM degrees?

That's the norm for many corporations- offer tuition reimbursement in a degree plan that will all but guarantee they'll work for the corporation as a slave for life.

People that can work 20 hours a week at a starbucks, and get a non-STEM degree, most likely have problems writing essays for scholarships.

Pushing Non-STEM degrees will be the death of the U.S. STEM is the only way to save it. Or have enough money to buy STEM grads from other countries. Hmmm!
 
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