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2014-06-16 05:36:28 AM
According to The Register-Guard: The suit claimed that jail officials had denied him and other inmates comforts that included quality food, soft beds and Sports Illustrated magazine's annual swimsuit issue.

You were in a county jail and on trial for murdering your father & his domestic partner because they were going to evict you. Even if had been found not guilty your lawsuit would have been considered frivolous, especially in regards to the S.I. magazine.

Zero sympathy.
 
2014-06-16 05:38:13 AM
Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!
 
2014-06-16 05:47:28 AM

Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!


The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.
 
2014-06-16 05:49:44 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!

The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.


Maybe they didn't deem him clever enough to escape a medium security prison.  He certainly doesn't seem very bright, if the article is any indication.
 
2014-06-16 05:58:42 AM

Ambivalence: Bathia_Mapes: Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!

The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.

Maybe they didn't deem him clever enough to escape a medium security prison.  He certainly doesn't seem very bright, if the article is any indication.


That's a distinct possibility. I wonder if he'll file another lawsuit against the prison because he certainly won't be getting a soft bed, quality food & luxury items like the S.I. swimsuit edition.
 
2014-06-16 06:07:53 AM

Bathia_Mapes: That's a distinct possibility. I wonder if he'll file another lawsuit against the prison because he certainly won't be getting a soft bed, quality food & luxury items like the S.I. swimsuit edition.


Well certainly not a CURRENT SI swimsuit edition.  But there may be a few crusty ones from the 80s in the library somewhere.
 
2014-06-16 06:20:07 AM
The Register-Guard newspaper reports that the suit filed by 38-year-old Johan Gillette...

Sounds like he just wants the best a man can get.
 
2014-06-16 06:26:48 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!

The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.

Johan Gillette claimed self-defense, even taking the stand to describe the fight between himself and his father that ended in the deaths.

The son claimed his father had threaten to kill him and was reaching for a gun.

"This is a powerful handgun," defense attorney Dan Koening said. "How many blows do you think it would take to defend yourself if someone had this pistol and was trying to shoot you with it?"

Koening told jurors to consider the defendant's lack of intent on the morning of September 7, 2012.

"There is no intent here," he said. "Johan did not get up that morning intending to kill anyone."
...
"I know it was a root explosion by my father that started violence. I have no doubt in my mind," the brother added. "Murder is a criminal charge, that's its intent. That is alien to core of my brother's nature."
...

"Johan, you murdered my mother, beat her, left her on the floor to die," said Jacob Shapiro, son of Anne McLucas. "She was just caught up in a father-son argument."

McLucas's sister Caye Duhgeer called the loss "wrenchingly painful."

But she added that she, like her late sister, "do not agree with the death penalty."


I'm not saying he's not a murderer. He is. He killed that woman. But he was apparently raised by a monster. Think about the kind of asshole you have to be born of so that, when you beat your own father to death and his girlfriend, your brother says "Yeah, Dad's fault."

That's a man who did wrong to his children.
 
2014-06-16 06:42:22 AM
Given that this happened in Oregon, that certainly wasn't the result I would have predicted.

I would have predicted a full hearing and an order by the judge to provide everything his suit had said was denied to him, along with a sizable financial award for infringing his human rights.
 
2014-06-16 06:46:03 AM

Friskya: Given that this happened in Oregon, that certainly wasn't the result I would have predicted.

I would have predicted a full hearing and an order by the judge to provide everything his suit had said was denied to him, along with a sizable financial award for infringing his human rights.


That's Washington or California. Oregon's the Ham of those three brothers. He has looked in Uncle Sam's tent and seen his shame the curse of Noah is upon Portland and all her children.
 
2014-06-16 06:46:38 AM
Er, Norad, rather. You try to make one bible joke....
 
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2014-06-16 07:40:18 AM
You have to admit that he has a point with the last one.
 
2014-06-16 07:48:00 AM

doglover: Bathia_Mapes: Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!

The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.

Johan Gillette claimed self-defense, even taking the stand to describe the fight between himself and his father that ended in the deaths.

The son claimed his father had threaten to kill him and was reaching for a gun.

"This is a powerful handgun," defense attorney Dan Koening said. "How many blows do you think it would take to defend yourself if someone had this pistol and was trying to shoot you with it?"

Koening told jurors to consider the defendant's lack of intent on the morning of September 7, 2012.

"There is no intent here," he said. "Johan did not get up that morning intending to kill anyone."
...
"I know it was a root explosion by my father that started violence. I have no doubt in my mind," the brother added. "Murder is a criminal charge, that's its intent. That is alien to core of my brother's nature."
...

"Johan, you murdered my mother, beat her, left her on the floor to die," said Jacob Shapiro, son of Anne McLucas. "She was just caught up in a father-son argument."

McLucas's sister Caye Duhgeer called the loss "wrenchingly painful."

But she added that she, like her late sister, "do not agree with the death penalty."


I'm not saying he's not a murderer. He is. He killed that woman. But he was apparently raised by a monster. Think about the kind of asshole you have to be born of so that, when you beat your own father to death and his girlfriend, your brother says "Yeah, Dad's fault."

That's a man who did wrong to his children.


Sounds like Daddy had beaten the common sense out of this poor shmuck long before that day. I only feel sorry for the girlfriend.
 
2014-06-16 07:50:34 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!

The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.


He's white.

You have to be Mexican or on death row to get a coveted spot at OSP.
 
2014-06-16 07:56:55 AM

balisane: doglover: Bathia_Mapes: Ambivalence: Looks like someone's getting nutraloaf!

The guy got convicted of aggravated murder and despite that he was sent to Snake River Correctional Institution, a medium security prison.

I'm curious as to why he wasn't sent to Oregon State Penitentiary instead (maximum security prison) considering that he was convicted of aggravated murder.

Johan Gillette claimed self-defense, even taking the stand to describe the fight between himself and his father that ended in the deaths.

The son claimed his father had threaten to kill him and was reaching for a gun.

"This is a powerful handgun," defense attorney Dan Koening said. "How many blows do you think it would take to defend yourself if someone had this pistol and was trying to shoot you with it?"

Koening told jurors to consider the defendant's lack of intent on the morning of September 7, 2012.

"There is no intent here," he said. "Johan did not get up that morning intending to kill anyone."
...
"I know it was a root explosion by my father that started violence. I have no doubt in my mind," the brother added. "Murder is a criminal charge, that's its intent. That is alien to core of my brother's nature."
...

"Johan, you murdered my mother, beat her, left her on the floor to die," said Jacob Shapiro, son of Anne McLucas. "She was just caught up in a father-son argument."

McLucas's sister Caye Duhgeer called the loss "wrenchingly painful."

But she added that she, like her late sister, "do not agree with the death penalty."


I'm not saying he's not a murderer. He is. He killed that woman. But he was apparently raised by a monster. Think about the kind of asshole you have to be born of so that, when you beat your own father to death and his girlfriend, your brother says "Yeah, Dad's fault."

That's a man who did wrong to his children.

Sounds like Daddy had beaten the common sense out of this poor shmuck long before that day. I only feel sorry for the girlfriend.


Should have asked the court for mercy on account of him being an orphan.
 
2014-06-16 07:59:52 AM
SI?? Psh. American Curves.
 
2014-06-16 08:07:27 AM
U.S. District Court Judge Ann Aiken noted in an order dismissing the suit that Gillette did not contact the court after filing the handwritten claim last November.


That's because they took away his crayons.

/Oh, you'd better believe that's a lawsuit.
 
2014-06-16 08:23:30 AM
Food and bedding?  You can make a case for that.

But Swim Suit Edition?  Only an idiot would think that would have a shot.  Why let yourself look stupid?
 
2014-06-16 08:28:14 AM
He just has to wait until he's paroled and allowed to live in a halfway home in the community.

The one I work at provides fantastic meals, soft beds, cable tv and wifi in private bedrooms, free laptops for use while living rent and board free, if he doesn't want to work an allowance is provided plus free bus passes and gym memberships.

Meanwhile, a citizen who's never committed a crime in their lives has to live pay check to paycheck to make ends meet and has no opportunity to save up cash or get stuff handed to them for free so that they can have an opportunity to build their lives up.
 
2014-06-16 08:29:47 AM

Bathia_Mapes: According to The Register-Guard: The suit claimed that jail officials had denied him and other inmates comforts that included quality food, soft beds and Sports Illustrated magazine's annual swimsuit issue.

You were in a county jail and on trial for murdering your father & his domestic partner because they were going to evict you. Even if had been found not guilty your lawsuit would have been considered frivolous, especially in regards to the S.I. magazine.

Zero sympathy.


Not so fast there.  The underlying suit may well have been frivolous...although I wouldn't be surprised if the press cherry-picked the SI thing, and left out "beaten by guards"... but it looks like the gubmint may have played fast and loose with Due Process.

Note that he (presumably) filed suit before he was convicted, ie, he was innocent at the time.  And mailing notice of a Motion to Dismiss to the jail where he was, rather than the prison where you knew he IS, is kind of a dick move...which the judge bought into, apparently.  At the least, he should be given a chance to respond in a timely manner, since he had no notice of the proceedings.

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/31718761-75/gillette-court-co un ty-officials-lawsuit.html.csp#

(has some weird 'want to register?' popup that you can bypass)
 
2014-06-16 08:37:05 AM
www.oae.co.uk
 
2014-06-16 08:45:33 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Food and bedding?  You can make a case for that.

But Swim Suit Edition?  Only an idiot would think that would have a shot.  Why let yourself look stupid?


Maybe he IS stupid.
 
2014-06-16 08:47:54 AM
rzrwiresunrise
 SI?? Psh.  American Curves

That's the most plastic I've seen in one place since I toured the dashboard assembly section of the Toyota plant.
 
2014-06-16 08:49:47 AM

pissnmoan: rzrwiresunrise
 SI?? Psh.  American Curves

That's the most plastic I've seen in one place since I toured the dashboard assembly section of the Toyota plant.


What's scary is the assembly line these Barbie dolls keep rolling off of.
 
2014-06-16 08:58:08 AM
I read the article, and the thing that I took away from this was:

"...he didn't respond to this in a timely manner? Did he even have the opportunity to?"

If so: Then.. okay.

If not: Then we've got a violation of due process.

I don't care if the argument is frivolous or not, and the fact that the swimsuit mag is being latched on to makes me suspect the other two stated items have  real basis - if he didn't have a chance to respond to the court, then wtf.
 
2014-06-16 09:00:51 AM

Summercat: I read the article, and the thing that I took away from this was:

"...he didn't respond to this in a timely manner? Did he even have the opportunity to?"

If so: Then.. okay.

If not: Then we've got a violation of due process.

I don't care if the argument is frivolous or not, and the fact that the swimsuit mag is being latched on to makes me suspect the other two stated items have  real basis - if he didn't have a chance to respond to the court, then wtf.


Yep....that's my take too.
 
2014-06-16 09:00:58 AM
Lawyers WIN!
 
2014-06-16 09:06:18 AM
i guess he will have to wack off to his imagination. good thing i have had more than my share of three ways and dirty girls, i would be just fine. some of you other farkers might be in a bit of trouble without some pron.
 
2014-06-16 09:12:21 AM

some_beer_drinker: i guess he will have to wack off to his imagination. good thing i have had more than my share of three ways and dirty girls, i would be just fine. some of you other farkers might be in a bit of trouble without some pron.


If two guys are involved, it's not a three-way; it's a train.
 
2014-06-16 09:16:45 AM

LazyMedia: some_beer_drinker: i guess he will have to wack off to his imagination. good thing i have had more than my share of three ways and dirty girls, i would be just fine. some of you other farkers might be in a bit of trouble without some pron.

If two guys are involved, it's not a three-way; it's a train.


thank goodness all my three ways have involved me and two lovely ladies.
 
2014-06-16 09:17:00 AM
Sounds pretty much like Varg Vikernes biatching about how uncomfortable Norwegian prisons are.
 
2014-06-16 09:19:39 AM

LazyMedia: some_beer_drinker: i guess he will have to wack off to his imagination. good thing i have had more than my share of three ways and dirty girls, i would be just fine. some of you other farkers might be in a bit of trouble without some pron.

If two guys are involved, it's not a three-way; it's a train.


Or an Eiffel Tower.
 
2014-06-16 09:20:41 AM

some_beer_drinker: LazyMedia: some_beer_drinker: i guess he will have to wack off to his imagination. good thing i have had more than my share of three ways and dirty girls, i would be just fine. some of you other farkers might be in a bit of trouble without some pron.

If two guys are involved, it's not a three-way; it's a train.

thank goodness all my three ways have involved me and two lovely ladies.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-16 09:27:27 AM
He fixes the cable?
 
2014-06-16 09:34:19 AM

some_beer_drinker: LazyMedia: some_beer_drinker: i guess he will have to wack off to his imagination. good thing i have had more than my share of three ways and dirty girls, i would be just fine. some of you other farkers might be in a bit of trouble without some pron.

If two guys are involved, it's not a three-way; it's a train.

thank goodness all my three ways have involved me and two lovely ladies.


Rosie Palms and Handrietta?
 
2014-06-16 09:37:14 AM
How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.
 
2014-06-16 09:40:07 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Food and bedding?  You can make a case for that.

But Swim Suit Edition?  Only an idiot would think that would have a shot.  Why let yourself look stupid?


Because he IS.
 
2014-06-16 09:41:04 AM

Cold_Sassy: How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.


Again, the underlying suit may be baseless.

But you can't pretend you haven't heard about genuinely shiatty prisons in this country.

Like that private one where they were locking up innocent kids for money?

Were you really fine with that?
 
2014-06-16 09:44:36 AM

PunGent: Cold_Sassy: How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.

Again, the underlying suit may be baseless.

But you can't pretend you haven't heard about genuinely shiatty prisons in this country.

Like that private one where they were locking up innocent kids for money?

Were you really fine with that?


Mister, I don't care.  He committed a double homicide and as far as I'm concerned he should have been executed.  He doesn't have any rights IMO.  Also, he is far, far, from the innocent babes you base your argument on.
 
2014-06-16 09:46:25 AM
Ok, so this guy is so bored in jail that he finds time to file a suit.  More than anything I'm surprised that there is even a system in place that allows that.
It seems to me that you shouldn't be able to file a lawsuit at all if you are incarcerated and stripped of all your rights.
 
2014-06-16 09:48:48 AM

rzrwiresunrise: SI?? Psh. American Curves.


Thank you for something that finally woke me up this morning!!
 
2014-06-16 09:52:00 AM

PunGent: Cold_Sassy: How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.

Again, the underlying suit may be baseless.

But you can't pretend you haven't heard about genuinely shiatty prisons in this country.

Like that private one where they were locking up innocent kids for money?

Were you really fine with that?


"genuinely shiatty prisons?"   are you referring to the ones in some African countries where just about everyone is HIV positive and there is no medical ward?   because if not, then isn't the idea of being in prison to NOT want to go back ?   But not in this country - "3 hots and a cot" right?

or is it okay for prisoners to sue because they didn't get the right kind of toiler paper?
 
2014-06-16 10:09:06 AM

MBrady: PunGent: Cold_Sassy: How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.

Again, the underlying suit may be baseless.

But you can't pretend you haven't heard about genuinely shiatty prisons in this country.

Like that private one where they were locking up innocent kids for money?

Were you really fine with that?

"genuinely shiatty prisons?"   are you referring to the ones in some African countries where just about everyone is HIV positive and there is no medical ward?   because if not, then isn't the idea of being in prison to NOT want to go back ?   But not in this country - "3 hots and a cot" right?

or is it okay for prisoners to sue because they didn't get the right kind of toiler paper?


Right kind of toilet paper?  No.

NO toilet paper?

Yes, actually.

Unless you like the idea of prison guards spreading cholera to their own families at the end of the day.

/people always forget the OTHER people in prisons...the ones who work there
 
2014-06-16 10:39:25 AM
Predictable Results? Hahaha. Oh, my, no. Predictable today means the Judge would order Mr. Dipstick to be put up in a Suite at the Four Seasons ..
 
2014-06-16 10:55:18 AM

PunGent: MBrady: PunGent: Cold_Sassy: How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.

Again, the underlying suit may be baseless.

But you can't pretend you haven't heard about genuinely shiatty prisons in this country.

Like that private one where they were locking up innocent kids for money?

Were you really fine with that?

"genuinely shiatty prisons?"   are you referring to the ones in some African countries where just about everyone is HIV positive and there is no medical ward?   because if not, then isn't the idea of being in prison to NOT want to go back ?   But not in this country - "3 hots and a cot" right?

or is it okay for prisoners to sue because they didn't get the right kind of toiler paper?

Right kind of toilet paper?  No.

NO toilet paper?

Yes, actually.

Unless you like the idea of prison guards spreading cholera to their own families at the end of the day.

/people always forget the OTHER people in prisons...the ones who work there


notice I didn't say "no toilet paper."   Since my dad was a corrections officer for 25 years in a medium security prison, I can tell you some of the complaints:

* such and such program not being on tv (usually it was some big fight, usually on PPV - why should tax payers foot the bill for PPV?)
* the tv not working correctly
* cell is too cold in the winter (when the farking idiot has the window fully open)
* cell is too hot (in the middle of summer)  OH?  RLY?  you want air conditioning?   I grew up without air conditioning, so fark you
* food is too cold (come to chow earlier)

my dad started out working 3rd shift.  one time, during his break - at 3 am, an inmate wanted to use the microwave.  no dice.  you respect them and treat them fairly.  when they act like children, you treat them like children.

but it's okay for them to save up their urine and throw it at the guards when they don't get their way, amirite?

but it's okay for them to throw their feces at the guards when they don't get their way, amirite?

but it's okay for them to have playboy and penthouse centerfolds hanging in their cells, but it's not okay for the corrections officers to have them.

numerous times (too many to count), inmate is less than 6 months to go before being released, will commit an infraction that will give him additional time.  why?  oh yea, the "3 hots and a cot."
 
2014-06-16 11:04:47 AM

Friskya: Given that this happened in Oregon, that certainly wasn't the result I would have predicted.

I would have predicted a full hearing and an order by the judge to provide everything his suit had said was denied to him, along with a sizable financial award for infringing his human rights.


This.
 
2014-06-16 11:07:36 AM

MBrady: PunGent: MBrady: PunGent: Cold_Sassy: How does stupid shiat like this even get to court? Quit wasting taxpayer money and everybody's time.

Again, the underlying suit may be baseless.

But you can't pretend you haven't heard about genuinely shiatty prisons in this country.

Like that private one where they were locking up innocent kids for money?

Were you really fine with that?

"genuinely shiatty prisons?"   are you referring to the ones in some African countries where just about everyone is HIV positive and there is no medical ward?   because if not, then isn't the idea of being in prison to NOT want to go back ?   But not in this country - "3 hots and a cot" right?

or is it okay for prisoners to sue because they didn't get the right kind of toiler paper?

Right kind of toilet paper?  No.

NO toilet paper?

Yes, actually.

Unless you like the idea of prison guards spreading cholera to their own families at the end of the day.

/people always forget the OTHER people in prisons...the ones who work there

notice I didn't say "no toilet paper."   Since my dad was a corrections officer for 25 years in a medium security prison, I can tell you some of the complaints:

* such and such program not being on tv (usually it was some big fight, usually on PPV - why should tax payers foot the bill for PPV?)
* the tv not working correctly
* cell is too cold in the winter (when the farking idiot has the window fully open)
* cell is too hot (in the middle of summer)  OH?  RLY?  you want air conditioning?   I grew up without air conditioning, so fark you
* food is too cold (come to chow earlier)

my dad started out working 3rd shift.  one time, during his break - at 3 am, an inmate wanted to use the microwave.  no dice.  you respect them and treat them fairly.  when they act like children, you treat them like children.

but it's okay for them to save up their urine and throw it at the guards when they don't get their way, amirite?

but it's okay for them to throw their feces at t ...


I've represented prison guards.  And I'd bet 95% of the prisoner complaints are BS.  And prison is SUPPOSED to suck.  And I'm all in favor of the guards being able to discipline prisoners who hurl feces, etc...toss 'em in the hole until they behave.

But you'll note the reporter in the article was too lazy to link to the actual suit filed...or he read it, and it didn't fit his "Zomg frivolous!!!" narrative, so he deliberately buried it.
 
2014-06-16 11:19:53 AM

MBrady: isn't the idea of being in prison to NOT want to go back ?


No.  The idea of prison is not punishment.  People want it to be.  That's why thy cheer prison rape.
 
2014-06-16 11:54:16 AM
Your in prison with nothing better to do..
 
2014-06-16 12:13:36 PM
Moron!  He should have committed the murders in Norway.
 
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