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(KTAR Phoenix)   Officials in Tucson, Arizona figure out how to save the city money by designating it as a dry seaport and shipping all the recycled paper goods to China   (ktar.com ) divider line
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2014-06-16 10:34:46 AM  
"Dry seaport?"

Who the f*ck comes up with this doublespeak?
 
2014-06-16 12:06:33 PM  
Funny how all the trash and all the recycling go to the same place...
 
2014-06-16 12:08:40 PM  
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona.
 
2014-06-16 12:09:02 PM  

Saborlas: "Dry seaport?"



Well, they're half right.
 
2014-06-16 12:09:59 PM  

Saborlas: "Dry seaport?"

Who the f*ck comes up with this doublespeak?


A dry port (sometimes inland port) is an inland intermodal terminal directly connected by road or rail to a seaport and operating as a center for the transshipment of sea cargo to inland destinations.
 
2014-06-16 12:10:16 PM  
What exactly does a "dry seaport" allow that just sending a shipping container to L.A. does not?  Is it about tariffs?
 
2014-06-16 12:10:23 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Funny how all the trash and all the recycling go to the same place...


A place where in some areas it is too toxic to live. But as an 'merican I don't care.
/I do, and I guess I shouldn't
//Worked at a company hacked by the Chinese through spam email
 
2014-06-16 12:17:16 PM  
Things like this always make me wonder why some municipalities refuse to establish recycling programs. If it's cost effective to buy waste products and ship them halfway around the world, then there's no reason recycling can't be done everywhere.
 
2014-06-16 12:22:37 PM  
China doesn't give a fark about it's own population, why should I?
 
2014-06-16 12:29:34 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Saborlas: "Dry seaport?"

Who the f*ck comes up with this doublespeak?

A dry port (sometimes inland port) is an inland intermodal terminal directly connected by road or rail to a seaport and operating as a center for the transshipment of sea cargo to inland destinations.


Ya? Well... you're a festizio.
 
2014-06-16 12:31:32 PM  

wxboy: What exactly does a "dry seaport" allow that just sending a shipping container to L.A. does not?  Is it about tariffs?


And inspections.  It can be packed, inspected, and cleared at the dry seaport to minimize delay and congestion at the actual port.
 
2014-06-16 12:36:38 PM  
Evrrybrodie in Tuson gretting hraacked nrow.

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2014-06-16 12:42:00 PM  
Getting Tucson designated as a dry seaport. That's step one in Lex Luthor's brilliant plan. Tucson is right up the road from Otisville.
 
2014-06-16 12:43:36 PM  
Agreed.

It's all bout where the sea container clears Customs.  Customs clears the container at the Dry Seaport & seals it.  Seal is checked when it hits the port on the west coast, and the container doesn't have to be fully inspected again.

Customs and immigration are full of wacky ideas and notions.  One example is arriving from overseas to an international airport in the US.  Are you in the US?  Yes and no.  Physically you're in the US, but you're not in the country yet.  This is how they can shove people back on the plane without an immigration hearing.

I thought it was funny when I went to Ireland a few years ago.  Dublin is one of only a few EU airports where you can clear US immigration overseas.  So, when you're sitting in the waiting area for your plane, if you've cleared customs & immigration all ready, you're technically on US soil, even though you're still overseas.
 
2014-06-16 01:04:24 PM  

Saborlas: "Dry seaport?"

Who the f*ck comes up with this doublespeak?


It means you can't drink there.
 
2014-06-16 01:22:55 PM  

Saborlas: "Dry seaport?"

Who the f*ck comes up with this doublespeak?


To be fair, they actually had a hurricane almost make landfall in Yuma. It got reclassified when it was just outside of town, and to this day I'm not sure it wasn't just because of pressure from insurance companies. Arizona exists in it's own unique microcosm...

I just wonder how "good" for the environment it is to ship all of this shiat across the planet...
 
2014-06-16 01:40:14 PM  

notto: wxboy: What exactly does a "dry seaport" allow that just sending a shipping container to L.A. does not?  Is it about tariffs?

And inspections.  It can be packed, inspected, and cleared at the dry seaport to minimize delay and congestion at the actual port.


So they found a solution to the Mexicans illegally entering Arizona?
 
2014-06-16 01:42:52 PM  
How on Earth is shipping trash halfway around the world cost effective?
 
2014-06-16 01:48:48 PM  
Why not pulp all the paper and make fire bricks, ship them to colder states for use in fireplaces?
 
2014-06-16 01:59:25 PM  
They also have a dog park. But there's no dogs in it. actually it's not a park. It has people in it but we recommend that you don't look at the people.

/Obscure?
 
2014-06-16 03:15:02 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Saborlas: "Dry seaport?"

Who the f*ck comes up with this doublespeak?

A dry port (sometimes inland port) is an inland intermodal terminal directly connected by road or rail to a seaport and operating as a center for the transshipment of sea cargo to inland destinations.


After reading this post I heard a *beep*, and I tried to advance the film strip. ;b
 
2014-06-16 03:38:04 PM  
WONDERUL.

We collect waste paper free of charge, people donate it free of charge, we pay to load it into containers, they turn it into paper products, and they sell it back to us for 2000% of what it costs them.

They do not pay for the paper, they do not pay for the collection, they do not pay for the packing.

Small wonder this country is going down the tubes.
 
2014-06-16 03:57:36 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Why not pulp all the paper and make fire bricks, ship them to colder states for use in fireplaces?


I'm not expert but I would assume that the process of turning paper into "pulp" involves water.  The one thing Tucson doesn't have in abundance.  There is a reason the airforce dumps their old planes out here.  Nothing biodergates (if you can protect it from the intense UV and heat) Paper can stay intact for 50 plus years after being buried. If China wants to buy my old news papers and empty cardboard boxes, I say let them, but just make sure they pay cash.
 
2014-06-16 04:05:39 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Things like this always make me wonder why some municipalities refuse to establish recycling programs. If it's cost effective to buy waste products and ship them halfway around the world, then there's no reason recycling can't be done everywhere.


Meanwhile, this morning I was listening to a news item about searching inbound food shipments for exotic insects and crop diseases, and it turns out that the USA is importing soybeans from China.  WTF?  Do we export anything anymore?
 
2014-06-16 06:16:24 PM  

MonoChango: ReverendJynxed: Why not pulp all the paper and make fire bricks, ship them to colder states for use in fireplaces?

I'm not expert but I would assume that the process of turning paper into "pulp" involves water.  The one thing Tucson doesn't have in abundance.  There is a reason the airforce dumps their old planes out here.  Nothing biodergates (if you can protect it from the intense UV and heat) Paper can stay intact for 50 plus years after being buried. If China wants to buy my old news papers and empty cardboard boxes, I say let them, but just make sure they pay cash.


Because you couldn't ship the waste paper to a locale which has an abundance of water and also tends to rely on old school heat at less than what it takes to ship it overseas? Just because you can't do it in your back yard doesn't mean you don't have other options.
 
2014-06-16 06:34:14 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Things like this always make me wonder why some municipalities refuse to establish recycling programs. If it's cost effective to buy waste products and ship them halfway around the world, then there's no reason recycling can't be done everywhere.


It might be cost effective for China because they might not have a developed and sustainable lumber farming industry like the USA does.
 
2014-06-16 06:58:10 PM  
These are the same idiots who now what to transfer all the money earmarked for road repairs (the roads in Pima County and Tucson are falling apart potholes within potholes) to build wait for it..........a giant soccer arena. A place where NO ONE plays soccer. A place where they tell everyone to conserve every drop of water and we're in a drought to yea let's build fields that will take millions of gallons to keep green for no one to use. The idiots who spend millions of taxpayer dollars for artwork placed around the city that they never thought would need maintenance that now is falling apart and needs to be demoed at you guess it taxpayer expense. And today now talk of raising property taxes again for road repair monies because they spend all of it on everything but road repairs.

stay classy Tucson!
 
2014-06-16 07:07:29 PM  

flondrix: ReapTheChaos: Things like this always make me wonder why some municipalities refuse to establish recycling programs. If it's cost effective to buy waste products and ship them halfway around the world, then there's no reason recycling can't be done everywhere.

Meanwhile, this morning I was listening to a news item about searching inbound food shipments for exotic insects and crop diseases, and it turns out that the USA is importing soybeans from China.  WTF?  Do we export anything anymore?


We exported 28m tonnes of soybeans April 2013 to April 2014 to China. If we're importing any it's probably specialty products.
 
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