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(Philly.com)   Township supervisor getting sued for trying to help out after hurricane Sandy by recycling storm debris   (philly.com) divider line 8
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-06-15 05:46:34 PM
I didn't think a town could sue an official under these circumstances. It's routine around here for lawsuits to claim a zoning board, building inspector, or other official gave out a permit that wasn't supposed to be granted. The government body as such is the defendant. Individual government employees are not liable to the town or the plaintiff.
 
2014-06-15 07:05:36 PM
I'm missing a step somewhere. They were moving debris from New York to be shredded? Sounds like a job for a hundred local mulch piles. The step I'm missing probably involves corruption.
 
2014-06-15 07:53:03 PM
The township is suing Theil for almost $37,000 - the cost of the legal fees it paid to reach a settlement in which Mountain Mulch agreed to relocate.

Then they are idiots for not making the $37,000 part of the settlement...
 
2014-06-15 08:11:03 PM
At least it didn't catch fire like the one here in Knoxville, burned for a week and probably would have gone longer if it hadn't rained.

Video (Not me, just the first I found)
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2014-06-15 08:36:46 PM

wildcardjack: I'm missing a step somewhere. They were moving debris from New York to be shredded? Sounds like a job for a hundred local mulch piles. The step I'm missing probably involves corruption.


"upstate" NY. even with a conservative estimate of say anywhere that is an hour north of NYC, hauling debris hundreds of miles for disposal sounds inefficeint as hell unless maybe there were known haz mat issues and permitting issues that people were trying to avoid.
 
2014-06-15 09:10:50 PM
"Thank you very mulch, thank you very mulch, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me".....
 
2014-06-16 08:06:16 AM
I think this kind of wacky-ass thing is part of Pennsylvania having so many tiny municipalities with so much power. There aren't consistent rules, so it's damn hard to comply with them, and there may not be enough people in some townships that know what the fark they're doing to even attempt to apply them reasonably.

I've posted these maps before; here's a map of the municipalities in Schuylkill County, PA - blue are CDPs so aren't municipalities:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-16 10:49:53 AM
Prediction:  locals wanted free mulch, were turned down, wanted revenge.

CSB:
Years back I was building a new bridge/roadway in Hillsborough, NJ.  Bypass of an existing road/bridge, rip out the old when the new one was completed.  The new route was through old farmland that the DOT bought years ago in anticipation of this project.

DOT spec requires that you strip out and save all top soil (no reason to waste topsoil by putting a road right on it), got to strip down to compact-able material.  But an expected 6" thickness of topsoil turned into 3-5' of top soil.  I ended up with a giant mountain of topsoil, maybe 10-15,000 cubic yards or so.  I was going to need MAYBE 1000 to do the replanting at the end of the project.

All the locals wanted that topsoil.  But I couldn't sell any of it because it belonged to NJDOT.  So after I refused to sell to a few pissed off assholes, suddenly the city and county police started showing up.  Seems they were getting a LOT of reports that I was illegally selling top soil without a permit, plus allowing to topsoil to be shipped illegally out of the township.

NJDOT told them to piss off, it was their topsoil, and they'd take it where ever the hell they wanted.  I think they ended up trucking it all out of county out of spite.
 
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