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2014-06-15 12:08:47 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-06-15 12:27:45 AM  
that certainly wasn't a police drone."
 
2014-06-15 01:44:57 AM  
It fixes the cable?
 
2014-06-15 04:16:37 AM  
White folks take down drones like this, black folks like this
 
2014-06-15 06:15:09 AM  
To be fair, discretion has never been the LAPD's strong suit.
 
2014-06-15 06:27:14 AM  
This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
 
2014-06-15 06:29:34 AM  

doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized


What's wrong with using drones to observe people who are out in public where anyone can see them anyway?
 
2014-06-15 06:30:41 AM  
The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?
 
2014-06-15 06:46:14 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: What's wrong with using drones to observe people who are out in public where anyone can see them anyway?


The same reason intelligent people don't give their police any other military hardware.

It's not that there's no legitimate situations to use such things. It's that the potential for abuse is too damn high.
 
2014-06-15 06:51:41 AM  
to fly a camera-mounted drone


Shouldn't that be a drone-mounted camera?
 
2014-06-15 07:13:15 AM  
Flying a police drone that low over a rowdy crowd seems like an unnecessary provocation.
 
2014-06-15 07:47:23 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?


Seriously. What in the hell were the police thinking? Anyone have a clue? Because that was just silly.
 
2014-06-15 08:34:55 AM  

doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized


You sound like you use the term "sovereign citizen" a lot.
 
2014-06-15 08:57:44 AM  

abhorrent1: You sound like you use the term "sovereign citizen" a lot.


Never. The term makes no sense. The sovereign leads the country. The citizens populate it. While a citizen may rise to the position of sovereign, for the duration they reign they are not citizens.

And, the bill of rights is at the very end of the constitution. If you read the whole thing you'll notice monarchs are verboten early on. So in America specifically there cannot be a sovereign at all, excepting a constitutional change.
 
2014-06-15 08:58:14 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: that certainly wasn't a police drone."


This.  It's just a simple quadcopter with a GoPro camera that has a 10-15 minute flight range on the battery.

http://www.gizmag.com/dji-phantom-quadcopter/25672/
 
2014-06-15 09:09:52 AM  
The one knocked down is a DJI Phantom II. That is not the model that Seattle gave to LAPD

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/05/s ea ttle_police_department_give.html
 
2014-06-15 09:10:24 AM  

doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized


Shaaaaaaddaaaaaaap. People like you annoy me. Stay in your house you hermit, and keep your TV off...theyre watching you!!!! They're under your bed too!!!
 
2014-06-15 09:56:26 AM  
This is why two things will happen in this arena:

1) PDs will give up on these things after the get gunned down all the time
2) They'll want their own military grade Predators instead.
 
2014-06-15 09:59:34 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?


Those run in the $900 range. It was a pricey fark up .
 
2014-06-15 10:20:50 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?


Activating the mace release valve might have caused a short circuit.
 
2014-06-15 10:23:58 AM  
www.imfdb.org
 
2014-06-15 10:35:28 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?


How else can they arrest them for destruction of property if the property is flying too high for them to hit?
 
2014-06-15 10:46:16 AM  

doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized


No personal property was searched.
No papers were inspected.
No personal property was seized.
In public, there is no expectation of privacy, and the same goes for police who respond violently to people who film them.

Now, if they had flown the drone into someone's back yard, or into someone's house, sure. But those people were out in public, and legally what the police were doing is no different from them standing and watching or taking pictures.
 
2014-06-15 11:51:18 AM  

Tophersky: doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

Shaaaaaaddaaaaaaap. People like you annoy me. Stay in your house you hermit, and keep your TV off...theyre watching you!!!! They're under your bed too!!!


Quit being a dick, there's no one else under this bed.
 
2014-06-15 11:59:30 AM  
Join the program.
 
2014-06-15 12:10:52 PM  

unchellmatt: In public, there is no expectation of privacy


There is an expectation of no flying voyeurs, either, but deploying a drone in a city can indeed allow police to create digital surveillance of private residences in manner that violates the letter and the spirit of the 4th Amendment.
 
2014-06-15 12:44:16 PM  
Pretty soon that will be considered felonious assaulting of an officer.
 
2014-06-15 12:59:52 PM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?


I'm guessing the batteries were dying. It was only going down, not up. The operator lingered too long. With a 10-15 minute flight time, you don't have much room for error.
 
2014-06-15 01:01:16 PM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: The operators had to have seen people were throwing crap at the drone and the response is to fly it lower?


"Hey Lou, I can't quite make out the face of that guy that threw the beer can.  Can you drop it a little lower so I can get a closer look?  Yeah, a little more.....little more......." ++++transmission lost+++++
 
2014-06-15 01:01:35 PM  

doglover: abhorrent1: You sound like you use the term "sovereign citizen" a lot.

Never. The term makes no sense. The sovereign leads the country. The citizens populate it. While a citizen may rise to the position of sovereign, for the duration they reign they are not citizens.

And, the bill of rights is at the very end of the constitution. If you read the whole thing you'll notice monarchs are verboten early on. So in America specifically there cannot be a sovereign at all, excepting a constitutional change.


You're only using a single, and highly restrictive, definition of sovereign.  In this case, it is referring to domestic or state sovereignty, which doesn't require the presence of a sovereign (king, queen, or other overriding authority) per se.
 
2014-06-15 02:44:22 PM  
FREE DRONE!

Also, it had to be called a melee, otherwise the riot police would have had nothing to do that night.
 
2014-06-15 03:15:07 PM  
The most sickening part of that video was the human surge of paparazzi who leapt after the fallen drone.
 
2014-06-15 03:25:02 PM  
I knew it wasn't a police drone when I saw that it was colored an easily visible white.  American police these days have everything stealthed and tacticooled out.

Wouldn't want to actually prevent a crime via deterrence ... that would hurt the bottom line.
 
2014-06-15 03:44:58 PM  
Dag-nabbit, back in my day we use to flip cars over and light them on fire.
 
2014-06-15 04:23:32 PM  

doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized


No one was searched, papers weren't asked for, homes & effects weren't violated. The only things that were seized is the Rangers.
 
2014-06-15 04:36:08 PM  

unyon: doglover: abhorrent1: You sound like you use the term "sovereign citizen" a lot.

Never. The term makes no sense. The sovereign leads the country. The citizens populate it. While a citizen may rise to the position of sovereign, for the duration they reign they are not citizens.

And, the bill of rights is at the very end of the constitution. If you read the whole thing you'll notice monarchs are verboten early on. So in America specifically there cannot be a sovereign at all, excepting a constitutional change.

You're only using a single, and highly restrictive, definition of sovereign.  In this case, it is referring to domestic or state sovereignty, which doesn't require the presence of a sovereign (king, queen, or other overriding authority) per se.



Dictionaries. How do they work?

/ thanks for not writing "pair say."
 
2014-06-15 05:52:39 PM  

Tophersky: doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

Shaaaaaaddaaaaaaap. People like you annoy me. Stay in your house you hermit, and keep your TV off...theyre watching you!!!! They're under your bed too!!!


No they aren't, the only thing under his bed is the prostitute he strangled last night. That is why this struck a chord with him. He is a little paranoid right now, and understandably so. He has a dead hooker under his bed and he won't be done with her for a couple of days. So he is a little sensitive about people peeking in his windows.
 
2014-06-15 06:05:01 PM  

Barfmaker: to fly a camera-mounted drone


Shouldn't that be a drone-mounted camera?


I"ve looked through my Nikon manual and there's nothing at all about vertical lift.
 
2014-06-15 06:21:04 PM  
It's only a matter of time before one of those things goes down on a crowd and opens a few people up.
 
2014-06-15 08:08:39 PM  

Barfmaker: to fly a camera-mounted drone


Shouldn't that be a drone-mounted camera?


"You see, son, when a drone and camera fall in love..."
 
2014-06-15 10:10:05 PM  
 
2014-06-16 12:58:03 AM  

Krieghund: Forbes concluded it wasn't a LAPD drone.


That guy sounds like he is a lot of fun at parties.
 
2014-06-16 01:02:00 AM  
Meh...would have been better if someone pulled out a SAW and mowed the thing down.
 
2014-06-16 09:42:33 AM  
Thats not a police drone, at least not the type they would ever use in Canada, our police fly this one, way more fun....  Still no lasers thoughimages.gizmag.com
 
Bf+
2014-06-16 11:35:27 AM  

doglover: This should happen to ALL government drones.


What about private drones?
 
2014-06-16 12:26:05 PM  
Brilliant, hope to see this happen to all police drones going forward.
 
2014-06-16 01:58:56 PM  
oops
 
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