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2014-06-14 11:02:55 AM  
OK, so the term "transparent administration" is burned down.
So, what's next?

Submit your catch phrase for the future political skullduggery sure to come.
 
2014-06-14 11:21:07 AM  
After the previous administration, this one is like an open screen door.
 
2014-06-14 12:46:36 PM  
Why do we need to be told more information anyway? If you're communicating on a cell phone, the police are listening AND tracking.

Yes, the police are listening.
 
2014-06-14 12:48:26 PM  
Isn't fascism grand?
 
2014-06-14 12:52:06 PM  

walktoanarcade: Why do we need to be told more information anyway? If you're communicating on a cell phone, the police are listening AND tracking.

Yes, the police are listening.


Don't tell facebook anything that you wouldn't tell a cop!
 
2014-06-14 12:52:21 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?


Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.
 
2014-06-14 12:54:20 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: walktoanarcade: Why do we need to be told more information anyway? If you're communicating on a cell phone, the police are listening AND tracking.

Yes, the police are listening.

Don't tell facebook anything that you wouldn't tell a cop!


If I get a Facebook account, I'm using a picture of a cop.

"Mmmm I feel bored, think I'll deprive an innocent person of their rights. LOL!"
 
2014-06-14 12:55:06 PM  

enry: After the previous administration, this one is like an open screen door.


Don't forget that Obama has already delivered on the particular reforms he was discussing when that phrase was mentioned too... and as far as Presidencies go this one has been relatively open; he never said we would have no national secrets.
 
2014-06-14 12:57:01 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.


Is that what it is?

You have to have a boot on your neck or it's not really fascism?

"Look fellow frog, I assure you, if this pot of water we're swimming in was for cooking, this water would be a lot hotter already!
In fact, I'd say it's pretty farking comfortable temperature at the moment."


/Read a farking book.
 
2014-06-14 01:01:55 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

Is that what it is?

You have to have a boot on your neck or it's not really fascism?

"Look fellow frog, I assure you, if this pot of water we're swimming in was for cooking, this water would be a lot hotter already!
In fact, I'd say it's pretty farking comfortable temperature at the moment."

/Read a farking book.


I'd say the same to you princess, if you think anything Obama has done even approaches fascism. It's not "the Blah Guy did something I don't like, but I didn't say anything about it when every President in history did the same or worse in far more heavy handed fashion".

FFS Washington formed a militia and used lethal force against people who refused to pay taxes on whiskey; you have no perspective on anything.
 
2014-06-14 01:07:06 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

Is that what it is?

You have to have a boot on your neck or it's not really fascism?

"Look fellow frog, I assure you, if this pot of water we're swimming in was for cooking, this water would be a lot hotter already!
In fact, I'd say it's pretty farking comfortable temperature at the moment."

/Read a farking book.

I'd say the same to you princess, if you think anything Obama has done even approaches fascism. It's not "the Blah Guy did something I don't like, but I didn't say anything about it when every President in history did the same or worse in far more heavy handed fashion".

FFS Washington formed a militia and used lethal force against people who refused to pay taxes on whiskey; you have no perspective on anything.


First I'm being "heckled" and now I'm "princess"

And I hate the "blah" guy? The one I voted for, twice?

Please, continue with your not trolling.
 
2014-06-14 01:07:07 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

Is that what it is?

You have to have a boot on your neck or it's not really fascism?

"Look fellow frog, I assure you, if this pot of water we're swimming in was for cooking, this water would be a lot hotter already!
In fact, I'd say it's pretty farking comfortable temperature at the moment."

/Read a farking book.


Maybe if you toned down the rhetoric rather than pretending the boot is already at your throat, people could take you more seriously.
 
2014-06-14 01:11:09 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

Is that what it is?

You have to have a boot on your neck or it's not really fascism?

"Look fellow frog, I assure you, if this pot of water we're swimming in was for cooking, this water would be a lot hotter already!
In fact, I'd say it's pretty farking comfortable temperature at the moment."

/Read a farking book.

I'd say the same to you princess, if you think anything Obama has done even approaches fascism. It's not "the Blah Guy did something I don't like, but I didn't say anything about it when every President in history did the same or worse in far more heavy handed fashion".

FFS Washington formed a militia and used lethal force against people who refused to pay taxes on whiskey; you have no perspective on anything.

First I'm being "heckled" and now I'm "princess"

And I hate the "blah" guy? The one I voted for, twice?

Please, continue with your not trolling.


I find it exceptionally tiresome trolls engage in hyper dramatic histrionics and then pretend its "all good" just because they make the utterly unverifiable claim they voted for Obama. Given the lame stuff you claim is "fascism" I'm looking up the phone number for Shenanigans.
 
2014-06-14 01:13:33 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.


We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.
 
2014-06-14 01:18:57 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.


They've been able to seize property/money since Reagan.
 
2014-06-14 01:19:17 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.


You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts
 
2014-06-14 01:20:37 PM  

whither_apophis: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

They've been able to seize property/money since Reagan.


I remember it like it was yesterday.
 
2014-06-14 01:20:38 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?


You don't know what fascism is, do you?
 
2014-06-14 01:21:13 PM  

whither_apophis: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

They've been able to seize property/money since Reagan.


BUT THIS IS OBAMA'S FAULT EVEN IF HE HAS ABUSED THIS THE LEAST OF ALL MODERN US PRESIDENTS
 
2014-06-14 01:21:24 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts


Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.
 
2014-06-14 01:22:01 PM  

ghare: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

You don't know what fascism is, do you?


You don't know that fascism starts gradually, do you?
 
2014-06-14 01:23:25 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: ghare: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

You don't know what fascism is, do you?

You don't know that fascism starts gradually, do you?


Slippery slope ftw!
 
2014-06-14 01:24:54 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

Is that what it is?

You have to have a boot on your neck or it's not really fascism?

"Look fellow frog, I assure you, if this pot of water we're swimming in was for cooking, this water would be a lot hotter already!
In fact, I'd say it's pretty farking comfortable temperature at the moment."

/Read a farking book.

I'd say the same to you princess, if you think anything Obama has done even approaches fascism. It's not "the Blah Guy did something I don't like, but I didn't say anything about it when every President in history did the same or worse in far more heavy handed fashion".

FFS Washington formed a militia and used lethal force against people who refused to pay taxes on whiskey; you have no perspective on anything.

First I'm being "heckled" and now I'm "princess"

And I hate the "blah" guy? The one I voted for, twice?

Please, continue with your not trolling.


So you're a fascist? I don't get why you're angry then
 
2014-06-14 01:25:05 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.


Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right
 
2014-06-14 01:26:57 PM  
I am curious, what are the benefits? Have these invasive programs yielded any positive results?

If they have, maybe they can convince someone with examples that these types of programs are worth while, otherwise, I just don't see the benefits of taking the risk of losing the trust of the people you are trying to protect.
 
2014-06-14 01:29:51 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right


Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.
 
2014-06-14 01:29:59 PM  
Marcus Aurelius:We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

Let's see if we can straighten you out a bit:

We've gone from genocide of Native Americans, Abraham Lincoln jailing newspaper editors who wrote against the Civil War, telegraph lines being nakedly tapped by the robber barons, the Klu Klux Klan openly engaging in lynchings and other terrorist acts all over this nation, all letters being opened and read in World War 2, people of Japanese ancestry being summarily rounded up, deprived of all their possessions, and put into work camps, J. Edgar Hoover casually investigating every aspect of the lives of people like Martin Luther King and using that information to try to blackmail them, to privacy laws that are continuously are being tightened.


Oh, but boo hoo hoo. Those laws don't cover pin-register information, so some police departments are subpoenaing metadata to solve crimes. What is America coming to?!?  WHATT ISSS IT COMING TOO!!!!!1!!1!!!
 
2014-06-14 01:30:57 PM  

Mr.Insightful: Marcus Aurelius:We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

Let's see if we can straighten you out a bit:

We've gone from genocide of Native Americans, Abraham Lincoln jailing newspaper editors who wrote against the Civil War, telegraph lines being nakedly tapped by the robber barons, the Klu Klux Klan openly engaging in lynchings and other terrorist acts all over this nation, all letters being opened and read in World War 2, people of Japanese ancestry being summarily rounded up, deprived of all their possessions, and put into work camps, J. Edgar Hoover casually investigating every aspect of the lives of people like Martin Luther King and using that information to try to blackmail them, to privacy laws that are continuously are being tightened.


Oh, but boo hoo hoo. Those laws don't cover pin-register information, so some police departments are subpoenaing metadata to solve crimes. What is America coming to?!?  WHATT ISSS IT COMING TOO!!!!!1!!1!!!


The end of the Fourth Amendment.
 
2014-06-14 01:32:55 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.


Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.
 
2014-06-14 01:33:52 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.


Try this link on for size.
 
2014-06-14 01:35:42 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: enry: After the previous administration, this one is like an open screen door.

Don't forget that Obama has already delivered on the particular reforms he was discussing when that phrase was mentioned too... and as far as Presidencies go this one has been relatively open; he never said we would have no national secrets.




And Obama welcomes the debate.

The debate will occur sometime after 2016.
 
2014-06-14 01:37:29 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Try this link on for size.


I don't need to follow your garbage.  I have the ability to remember exactly what happened.  Telco immunity was the compromise that had to be made to re-instate the FISA courts.  Good lord.  Did you think it was that long ago that people don't remember it?
 
2014-06-14 01:38:51 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.


And I'm sure that wasn't at all related to the telcos being pressured by the Bush administration into complying with PRISM or being crucified publicly for being "in bed with the terrorists".

Is 2001-2008 a drunken blank for you?
 
2014-06-14 01:39:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.


so Obama's position changed when he was the one underneath the sword of Damocles. He votes to support the filibuster, some senator filibusters it, and the immunity is taken out.  And I'm sure his political opponents wouldn't have seized upon any terrorist attack in between then and the 2012 election cycle to portray him as weak on national security and would have defended his respect of the constitution and privacy rights.

None of this excuses his flip flop, by the way.  If anything it lays more blame on the naives who expect 100 percent security AND 100 percent privacy rights.
 
2014-06-14 01:40:12 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.

And I'm sure that wasn't at all related to the telcos being pressured by the Bush administration into complying with PRISM or being crucified publicly for being "in bed with the terrorists".

Is 2001-2008 a drunken blank for you?


Forget it.  He's rolling.
 
2014-06-14 01:40:20 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Try this link on for size.

I don't need to follow your garbage.  I have the ability to remember exactly what happened.  Telco immunity was the compromise that had to be made to re-instate the FISA courts.  Good lord.  Did you think it was that long ago that people don't remember it?


You called me a liar when I claimed Obama voted to give the telcos immunity.  When I  provide you a link to the facts, you call my facts garbage.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to color you "deluded partisan, blue".
 
2014-06-14 01:42:11 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Crotchrocket Slim: enry: After the previous administration, this one is like an open screen door.

Don't forget that Obama has already delivered on the particular reforms he was discussing when that phrase was mentioned too... and as far as Presidencies go this one has been relatively open; he never said we would have no national secrets.

And Obama welcomes the debate.

The debate will occur sometime after 2016.


Name one thing Obama's done to kill debate on this
 
2014-06-14 01:42:42 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.

And I'm sure that wasn't at all related to the telcos being pressured by the Bush administration into complying with PRISM or being crucified publicly for being "in bed with the terrorists".

Is 2001-2008 a drunken blank for you?


Did Obama vote "yes"?  Yes, he did.  I remember it clearly because I had just given the SOB several hundred dollars in campaign contributions based on his position on FISA, and that is how he thanked me.

Christ, if this fact is so hard for you to admit, you might need some perspective.
 
2014-06-14 01:43:38 PM  

enry: After the previous administration, this one is like an open screen door.


Actually Obama's had fewer press conferences than Bush, and has cracked down harder on whistle blowers. I don't think any of his press conferences have had paid shills asking questions, though.
 
2014-06-14 01:43:54 PM  
"Don't tell anyone you have youtube."
 
2014-06-14 01:44:03 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Try this link on for size.

I don't need to follow your garbage.  I have the ability to remember exactly what happened.  Telco immunity was the compromise that had to be made to re-instate the FISA courts.  Good lord.  Did you think it was that long ago that people don't remember it?

You called me a liar when I claimed Obama voted to give the telcos immunity.  When I  provide you a link to the facts, you call my facts garbage.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to color you "deluded partisan, blue".


No, I asked you if you were lying or just misinformed.  I'm still not sure.  And again, I was there to watch it unfold.  I remember what I saw.  I don't need someone else's totally non-partisan "facts" such as what you linked to to infrom me.
 
2014-06-14 01:44:51 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Try this link on for size.

I don't need to follow your garbage.  I have the ability to remember exactly what happened.  Telco immunity was the compromise that had to be made to re-instate the FISA courts.  Good lord.  Did you think it was that long ago that people don't remember it?

You called me a liar when I claimed Obama voted to give the telcos immunity.  When I  provide you a link to the facts, you call my facts garbage.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to color you "deluded partisan, blue".


I called you a liar when you misrepresented what was going on in that vote, not Tor.

Bang up attention to detail and facts you have.
 
2014-06-14 01:45:16 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: enry: After the previous administration, this one is like an open screen door.

Actually Obama's had fewer press conferences than Bush, and has cracked down harder on whistle blowers. I don't think any of his press conferences have had paid shills asking questions, though.


He's also eaten fewer jellybeans than Reagan.  Checkmate, libulardos.
 
2014-06-14 01:46:10 PM  
Just to note, we've gone from "fascism is here, wake up sheeple" to "Obama voted yes on this piece of legislation".
 
2014-06-14 01:48:04 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.

And I'm sure that wasn't at all related to the telcos being pressured by the Bush administration into complying with PRISM or being crucified publicly for being "in bed with the terrorists".

Is 2001-2008 a drunken blank for you?

Did Obama vote "yes"?  Yes, he did.  I remember it clearly because I had just given the SOB several hundred dollars in campaign contributions based on his position on FISA, and that is how he thanked me.

Christ, if this fact is so hard for you to admit, you might need some perspective.


Nuance and context are lost on you, gotcha. Sure you supported Obama even though you pick the most pathetic reasons for him to lose your support, sure.
 
2014-06-14 01:48:42 PM  

qorkfiend: Just to note, we've gone from "fascism is here, wake up sheeple" to "Obama voted yes on this piece of legislation".


Legislation, mind you, whose primary purpose was to re-instate the FISA courts.  Which it did.

But he voted for Obama, so it's ok for him to whine about it like a little biatch.  Reddit must be down.
 
2014-06-14 01:51:51 PM  

qorkfiend: Just to note, we've gone from "fascism is here, wake up sheeple" to "Obama voted yes on this piece of legislation".


We haven't even heard about Marcus' tax burden since The Zero took office. Who knows how inconvenient paying for social programs have been for him- it could totes by like being interned at Auschwitz.
 
2014-06-14 01:52:06 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Tor_Eckman: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Are you lying or simply misinformed?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Try this link on for size.

I don't need to follow your garbage.  I have the ability to remember exactly what happened.  Telco immunity was the compromise that had to be made to re-instate the FISA courts.  Good lord.  Did you think it was that long ago that people don't remember it?

You called me a liar when I claimed Obama voted to give the telcos immunity.  When I  provide you a link to the facts, you call my facts garbage.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to color you "deluded partisan, blue".

No, I asked you if you were lying or just misinformed.  I'm still not sure.  And again, I was there to watch it unfold.  I remember what I saw.  I don't need someone else's totally non-partisan "facts" such as what you linked to to infrom me.


Are you saying that Obama voted "no" to the FISA bill?
 
2014-06-14 01:52:43 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.

And I'm sure that wasn't at all related to the telcos being pressured by the Bush administration into complying with PRISM or being crucified publicly for being "in bed with the terrorists".

Is 2001-2008 a drunken blank for you?

Did Obama vote "yes"?  Yes, he did.  I remember it clearly because I had just given the SOB several hundred dollars in campaign contributions based on his position on FISA, and that is how he thanked me.

Christ, if this fact is so hard for you to admit, you might need some perspective.

Nuance and context are lost on you, gotcha. Sure you supported Obama even though you pick the most pathetic reasons for him to lose your support, sure.


Are you saying that Obama voted "no" to the FISA bill?
 
2014-06-14 01:54:58 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: Marcus Aurelius: Crotchrocket Slim: MurphyMurphy: Isn't fascism grand?

Were this fascism you'd by facing consequences far worse than being heckled on Fark for posting such whining.

We've gone from no wiretaps on Americans without a warrant, to local cops intercepting your cell phone calls whenever they feel like it.  Just give it some time, and you'll be surprised where this country ends up.  They can also arrest your cash now and keep it for themselves.  No warrant necessary.

You're thinking it's still 2007 and Obama's campaigning hadn't made this such an issue that Bush relented and reinstated the FISA courts

Obama?  Are you tripping balls?  Obama voted to gut FISA when he was a senator back in 2007.

Liar http://m.dailykos.com/story/2008/07/09/548821/-Obama-Voted-No-On-Immun ity-Got-FISA-Right

Obama voted "yes" to telco immunity.  That's a fact.

And I'm sure that wasn't at all related to the telcos being pressured by the Bush administration into complying with PRISM or being crucified publicly for being "in bed with the terrorists".

Is 2001-2008 a drunken blank for you?

Did Obama vote "yes"?  Yes, he did.  I remember it clearly because I had just given the SOB several hundred dollars in campaign contributions based on his position on FISA, and that is how he thanked me.

Christ, if this fact is so hard for you to admit, you might need some perspective.

Nuance and context are lost on you, gotcha. Sure you supported Obama even though you pick the most pathetic reasons for him to lose your support, sure.

Are you saying that Obama voted "no" to the FISA bill?


No, I'm saying you have a childlike inability to understand the political process and a Republican-like inability to parse things outside of black/white terms.
 
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