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(Major League Baseball)   Roberto Hernandez ejected without warning for throwing an inside pitch after a home run   (m.mlb.com) divider line 37
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2014-06-14 09:31:46 AM  
Yet another reason why this whole warning system is flawed, if not completely FUBAR.

\Red Sox fan
\\still say we should've thrown at the first batter on the first pitch against the Rays that Saturday
 
2014-06-14 11:33:57 AM  

FriarReb98: Yet another reason why this whole warning system is flawed, if not completely FUBAR.

\Red Sox fan
\\still say we should've thrown at the first batter on the first pitch against the Rays that Saturday


As I understand it; it's completely up to the umpire wether or not to toss a player. That having been said; I've never seen a pitcher thrown out for throwing an inside pitch without a warning; I can't really tell if he beaned the hitter or not.
 
2014-06-14 11:35:08 AM  
GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!
How about we start throwing out all the roided up gorillas? 'Cause that would be nice.
 
2014-06-14 11:41:31 AM  
Ejection looked deserved.
 
2014-06-14 11:44:26 AM  

snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!
How about we start throwing out all the roided up gorillas? 'Cause that would be nice.


If I understand your statement correctly; you want to throw out all of the roid gorillas. You do realize that baseball is 90% roids? Why do you hate baseball?
 
2014-06-14 11:47:02 AM  

iheartscotch: snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!
How about we start throwing out all the roided up gorillas? 'Cause that would be nice.

If I understand your statement correctly; you want to throw out all of the roid gorillas. You do realize that baseball is 90% roids? Why do you hate baseball?


'Cause I was always picked last.
 
2014-06-14 12:07:01 PM  
Look at the pitchers reaction, if you look at his arm angle as well he clearly wasn't attempting to throw at the hitter, he dropped his elbow and let one go, unfortunately it was a guy who hit a home run before hand.
Yes a Pitchers going to hit a batter intentionally with only 2 runs on the board, clearly the umpire just didn't want to deal with the shiat and threw him out, lazy ass umpires.
 
2014-06-14 12:07:50 PM  
Blah blah blah unwritten rule blah blah blah pitchers are asses blah blah all your fault Manny blah blah Roethlisburger and Kobe are rapists hurp dee durp a WARRIOR CODE hey look it's an Obama nomnomnom.
 
2014-06-14 12:08:34 PM  
I get so tired of the managers coming out to argue and intentionally getting themselves ejected. So much goddamn attention whoring in baseball.
 
2014-06-14 12:16:43 PM  

FriarReb98: Yet another reason why this whole warning system is flawed, if not completely FUBAR.

\Red Sox fan
\\still say we should've thrown at the first batter on the first pitch against the Rays that Saturday


Is there any precedent for a team giving a (cough cough) "spot start" to a disposable relief pitcher, letting him nail the first batter, then going to the regularly scheduled starting pitcher after the ejection?

I guess when your intentions are that blatant, you're setting yourself up for big punishment, maybe against the manager.
 
2014-06-14 12:21:55 PM  

Super Chronic: FriarReb98: Yet another reason why this whole warning system is flawed, if not completely FUBAR.

\Red Sox fan
\\still say we should've thrown at the first batter on the first pitch against the Rays that Saturday

Is there any precedent for a team giving a (cough cough) "spot start" to a disposable relief pitcher, letting him nail the first batter, then going to the regularly scheduled starting pitcher after the ejection?

I guess when your intentions are that blatant, you're setting yourself up for big punishment, maybe against the manager.


With the suspensions, fines, and sanctions against the team, it would be easier to call the cops and have the umps arrested and taken from the field.
 
2014-06-14 12:28:03 PM  

snocone: Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport?


I'm guessing it was the first time the catcher had the ball before the runner got to home plate.  And like fighting in hockey, chin music is a part of the game.  Suck it up and take your base.
 
2014-06-14 12:41:41 PM  
www.hangingsliders.com
I'm sorry but there can be only one Roberto Hernandez.
 
2014-06-14 12:48:33 PM  
Did you mean hitting a batter? Because the headline presents it like a ball on the inner half of the plate.
 
2014-06-14 12:57:21 PM  
Subby is clearly a butthurt Phillies fan.
 
2014-06-14 01:00:58 PM  

Misconduc: Look at the pitchers reaction, if you look at his arm angle as well he clearly wasn't attempting to throw at the hitter, he dropped his elbow and let one go, unfortunately it was a guy who hit a home run before hand.
Yes a Pitchers going to hit a batter intentionally with only 2 runs on the board, clearly the umpire just didn't want to deal with the shiat and threw him out, lazy ass umpires.


Yeah because with 2 OUTS in the 6th inning of a tight game is the perfect time to plunk someone.  Umpires are supposed to know situational stuff.  Evidently this one doesn't.  Regardless, anyone who thinks that was done on purpose knows little or nothing about baseball.  Not only that, even Castro knew he didn't throw it on purpose,  "I don't think he did it on purpose," Castro said. "He's a good friend of mine. I know him a lot. I see him every day in the Dominican."
 
2014-06-14 01:32:16 PM  
Well you see warrior code and such as.
 
2014-06-14 01:58:17 PM  

iheartscotch: FriarReb98: Yet another reason why this whole warning system is flawed, if not completely FUBAR.

\Red Sox fan
\\still say we should've thrown at the first batter on the first pitch against the Rays that Saturday

As I understand it; it's completely up to the umpire wether or not to toss a player. That having been said; I've never seen a pitcher thrown out for throwing an inside pitch without a warning; I can't really tell if he beaned the hitter or not.


Lackey got ran several years ago two pitches into the game. I don't remember if he hit Kinsler or not now
 
2014-06-14 01:59:20 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: iheartscotch: FriarReb98: Yet another reason why this whole warning system is flawed, if not completely FUBAR.

\Red Sox fan
\\still say we should've thrown at the first batter on the first pitch against the Rays that Saturday

As I understand it; it's completely up to the umpire wether or not to toss a player. That having been said; I've never seen a pitcher thrown out for throwing an inside pitch without a warning; I can't really tell if he beaned the hitter or not.

Lackey got ran several years ago two pitches into the game. I don't remember if he hit Kinsler or not now


Just checked, second one plunked him
 
2014-06-14 02:22:49 PM  
If this keeps up, the umpires won't need to wear cups under their skirts.
 
2014-06-14 02:47:19 PM  
I'm kinda torn.

I think warnings are dumb, and if you throw at a guy, you should be ejected.  Or fined.  Or suspended.  Or both.  I'm with a recent article posted here about how throwing at guys is stupid in almost every case.  The one exception is defending your players when the other team is throwing at them.  No throwing at guys for showboating.

On the other hand, this looked like an accident.  You can tell by Hernandez' reaction.  And throwing inside is important, especially given how much hitters today dive over the plate.
 
2014-06-14 02:51:09 PM  
If you hit the next batter with a fastball after giving up a home run you've cocked the gun to get tossed. He must have said something or had some sort of reaction that we couldn't see with the camera angle to have the umpire pull the trigger. Notice that it wasn't immediate.

I have no problem with the ejection.
 
2014-06-14 03:46:09 PM  
Unwritten rule!
 
2014-06-14 06:36:15 PM  

JSam21: If you hit the next batter with a fastball after giving up a home run you've cocked the gun to get tossed. He must have said something or had some sort of reaction that we couldn't see with the camera angle to have the umpire pull the trigger. Notice that it wasn't immediate.

I have no problem with the ejection.



Hernandez's facial expression after the pitch seems to show he's upset with himself.

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That said, the umpires reation looks delayed, he seems to toss him after looking back at him.
 
2014-06-14 06:41:32 PM  

rjakobi: Blah blah blah unwritten rule blah blah blah pitchers are asses blah blah all your fault Manny blah blah Roethlisburger and Kobe are rapists hurp dee durp a WARRIOR CODE hey look it's an Obama nomnomnom.


Did you forget your meds today?
 
2014-06-14 07:13:39 PM  

snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!



www.chaikinandsherman.com
www.ohio.com
www.theblaze.com


*insert 260,000 other contact plays at the plate here*
 
2014-06-14 08:16:24 PM  

nyseattitude: snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!


[www.chaikinandsherman.com image 383x251]
[www.ohio.com image 270x342]
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*insert 260,000 other contact plays at the plate here*



That might carry more weight if all of your examples weren't of a play that was banned this year for the player's safety.
 
2014-06-14 08:43:03 PM  

Dafatone: I think warnings are dumb, and if you throw at a guy, you should be ejected.  Or fined.  Or suspended.


A breaking ball, warned, a fastball, warned, a fastball at the knees, ejected, a fastball at the head, ejected and fined.
 
2014-06-14 08:43:57 PM  

ko_kyi: A breaking ball, warned, a fastball, warned, a fastball at the knees, ejected, a fastball at the head, ejected and fined.


I meant following a scoring play, or the next time you see the RBI hitter
 
2014-06-14 09:19:26 PM  

snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!
How about we start throwing out all the roided up gorillas? 'Cause that would be nice.


Hitting the batter should be an immediate ejection, accident or not.    Yes, it could be unfair, but it would damn well solve this retaliation bullshiat.

Baseball is supposed to be a gentlemen's game.  I don't watch hockey because of all the fake WWF fights, and football has turned from simply being rough to being a game of thugs.
 
2014-06-14 09:24:12 PM  

Great_Milenko: snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!
How about we start throwing out all the roided up gorillas? 'Cause that would be nice.

Hitting the batter should be an immediate ejection, accident or not.    Yes, it could be unfair, but it would damn well solve this retaliation bullshiat.

Baseball is supposed to be a gentlemen's game.  I don't watch hockey because of all the fake WWF fights, and football has turned from simply being rough to being a game of thugs.


4/10
 
2014-06-15 01:28:21 AM  

largedon: [www.hangingsliders.com image 320x222]
I'm sorry but there can be only one Roberto Hernandez.


Fausto Carmona sees what you did there.
 
2014-06-15 01:56:15 AM  

snocone: iheartscotch: snocone: GOOD!
Now a fine would be so sweet.

Just when the fark did baseball become a farking contact sport? NEVAR!
How about we start throwing out all the roided up gorillas? 'Cause that would be nice.

If I understand your statement correctly; you want to throw out all of the roid gorillas. You do realize that baseball is 90% roids? Why do you hate baseball?

'Cause I was always picked last.


That makes sense to be last since you clearly have no idea how the game is played if you think he was throwing at him.
 
2014-06-15 04:21:40 AM  
Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, Lefty Grove, and some of the other all-time greats would never have made it out of the minor leagues today. That's what they did back then, they threw at batters, they backed them off, popped 'em in the ribs, all those things. They would have been ejected from every game. Especially Gibson.

I can't decide whether or not the changes are good things. If the pitcher can't back the batter off he's conceded half the plate. And as far as hitting the next guy up after a dinger, that's like people arguing with the ref. You're setting the table for the next time, where the guy who hit the jack might hear something from his teammate about getting plunked, or he might be a bit apprehensive about taking one himself. That's the way it used to be. Now they dig in and claim it all for themselves, knowing that they won't get thrown at.

It's really changed the game. In fact, all the rule changes since 1968 handcuffing the pitchers have really changed the game.
 
2014-06-15 11:31:23 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, Lefty Grove, and some of the other all-time greats would never have made it out of the minor leagues today. That's what they did back then, they threw at batters, they backed them off, popped 'em in the ribs, all those things. They would have been ejected from every game. Especially Gibson.

I can't decide whether or not the changes are good things. If the pitcher can't back the batter off he's conceded half the plate. And as far as hitting the next guy up after a dinger, that's like people arguing with the ref. You're setting the table for the next time, where the guy who hit the jack might hear something from his teammate about getting plunked, or he might be a bit apprehensive about taking one himself. That's the way it used to be. Now they dig in and claim it all for themselves, knowing that they won't get thrown at.

It's really changed the game. In fact, all the rule changes since 1968 handcuffing the pitchers have really changed the game.


In 2013, 1536 batters were hit over 43653.1 innings, or 0.0352 HBP per inning.

Gibson, for his career, hit 102 batters over 3884.1 innings, 0.0263 HBP per inning.

Drysdale hit 154 over 3432 innings, or 0.0449 HBP per inning.

Point is, things haven't changed nearly as much as people think.  There's LOTS of ways in which people think baseball was meaner and nastier back in the day, and some of those ways are legit.  Even before this year's catcher collision change, you weren't going to see another Pete Rose destroy a Ray Fosse in an all star game.

But a lot of those ways are just people wanting to say, "back in my day things were much tougher."
 
2014-06-15 11:57:32 AM  
Same old morons with the "I like this rule, but that rule, not so much", so we'll just call it tough or manly or, why not what it is, CHICKENZHIT.

Farkers, if you choose to play, there are rules. Don't like rules, GTFO.
 
2014-06-15 02:21:47 PM  

Dafatone: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, Lefty Grove, and some of the other all-time greats would never have made it out of the minor leagues today. That's what they did back then, they threw at batters, they backed them off, popped 'em in the ribs, all those things. They would have been ejected from every game. Especially Gibson.

I can't decide whether or not the changes are good things. If the pitcher can't back the batter off he's conceded half the plate. And as far as hitting the next guy up after a dinger, that's like people arguing with the ref. You're setting the table for the next time, where the guy who hit the jack might hear something from his teammate about getting plunked, or he might be a bit apprehensive about taking one himself. That's the way it used to be. Now they dig in and claim it all for themselves, knowing that they won't get thrown at.

It's really changed the game. In fact, all the rule changes since 1968 handcuffing the pitchers have really changed the game.

In 2013, 1536 batters were hit over 43653.1 innings, or 0.0352 HBP per inning.

Gibson, for his career, hit 102 batters over 3884.1 innings, 0.0263 HBP per inning.

Drysdale hit 154 over 3432 innings, or 0.0449 HBP per inning.

Point is, things haven't changed nearly as much as people think.  There's LOTS of ways in which people think baseball was meaner and nastier back in the day, and some of those ways are legit.  Even before this year's catcher collision change, you weren't going to see another Pete Rose destroy a Ray Fosse in an all star game.

But a lot of those ways are just people wanting to say, "back in my day things were much tougher."


It wasn't how many they hit, but how many they intimidated. While allowing for anecdotes not being the same as data, there are ample stories out there about Gibson and Drysdale being mean enough to throw t their own mothers if they crowded the plate. Brushing someone back now gets you warned or tossed.
 
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