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(Splitsider)   Lorne Michaels confirms changes to SNL next season, promises show will suck in an entirely new way   (splitsider.com) divider line 43
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2014-06-14 08:39:19 AM  
SNL is to television comedy what the Dallas Cowboys are to the NFL. The problem is the old man in charge who doesn't know as much about running things as he thinks he does.

/probably a Kristin Wiig/Tony Romo analogy in there too
//something along the lines of how they look good until it's time to really bring it home, then they fark up
///hell, i dunno
 
2014-06-14 08:57:46 AM  
"SNL takes every inch and every ounce of my talent, for whatever that's worth"

Translation: he's never had another job and has no idea what else to do.
 
2014-06-14 11:08:43 AM  

jake_lex: SNL is to television comedy what the Dallas Cowboys are to the NFL. The problem is the old man in charge who doesn't know as much about running things as he thinks he does.

/probably a Kristin Wiig/Tony Romo analogy in there too
//something along the lines of how they look good until it's time to really bring it home, then they fark up
///hell, i dunno


Well, If Kristen Wiig had a DEFENSE and an OFFENSIVE LINE maybe she wouldn't be in a must-pass situation in the fourth quarter when the opposing D pins their ears back and the chances of an INT skyrocket!

/She can only do so much.
//Looked good vs. Denver, though.
///What?
 
2014-06-14 12:10:36 PM  
Simply put: SNL needs to die. It has ran its course. Thanks for all the great comedians but now, to the cornfield with you.
 
2014-06-14 12:15:10 PM  
Last time Lorne Michaels was involved in a great comedy sketch program, it was Kids in the Hall. He's too old and SNL needs to get someone new to produce the show.
 
2014-06-14 12:18:27 PM  
That is one edgy headline and some super edgy comments.

/stopliking.jpg
 
2014-06-14 12:21:03 PM  

boogerwolf: Simply put: SNL needs to die. It has ran its course. Thanks for all the great comedians but now, to the cornfield with you.


LOL, yeah, cause NBC has all kinds of "better" shows they could throw in to that "highly coveted" timeslot.
 
2014-06-14 12:23:23 PM  
With Nasim Pedrad leaving, I look forward to her being replaced by five white dudes in their late-20s or early-30s.  Should be great.
 
2014-06-14 12:23:48 PM  
I watched a few shows the season after Wayne and Garth left, but have never watched it after that. I think i just got bored with it.
 
2014-06-14 12:29:27 PM  
They best not get rid of Aidy Bryant, Vanessa Bayer, Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong, Sasheer Zamata, or Beck Bennett,

/The last two are negotiable.
 
2014-06-14 12:36:34 PM  
I don't know why people keep thinking SNL has to "die"

Is there something else you've been DYING to see at 11:30 PM on a Saturday night on NBC?

Who cares if it's on or not!?

To me it's a television staple that's been on my whole life.  I haven't sat and 'watched' it in 20 years but when something good happens, it's on the internet the next day.

It launches some funny people and we have that to thank for it.

If it's bad, I don't end up seeing those skits online.  Really, what's the issue here?
 
2014-06-14 12:38:10 PM  

luidprand: They best not get rid of Aidy Bryant, Vanessa Bayer, Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong, Sasheer Zamata, or Beck Bennett,

/The last two are negotiable.


Weekend Update has been pretty Strong.

I've always watched for that, if nothing else.

/got nuthin'
 
2014-06-14 12:55:04 PM  
I have said this before: Lorne plays it too safe now.   If all you ever knew of Fred Armisen was his SNL appearances, you'd have no idea how farking hysterical and flexible he is. Portlandia was a revelation, and his work with Carrie there reminds me of the best days of SNL.  If one of the cast you see on the show seems like they don't have anything to deliver, it may just be crappy group writing that's ignoring their talents.

Lorne doesn't allow nearly as much political humor now as he did in the first decade of the show. I think this is for two reasons: one, political jokes and skits tend to have a short, ephemeral shelf life that doesn't work well in selling DVD "best of" collections. Two, Lorne is totally a corporate whore now, if he ever wasn't, and he blocks airing skits that hit too close to home to G.E., NBC, or in a wider sense, corporate America.  Think about the last time you remember an involved sketch that poked real satirical fun at Washington or Corporate America?  The closest you get are occasional snarky one-liners in the Update" section. When they do a "political" or "current events" related piece today, it's usually revolving around cheap jokes and the quality of the character impersonation, not the underlying issue of the day.

And Lorne's been trying, generally unsuccessfully, to recapture the magic of the Blues Brothers movie ever since, desperately trying to find a lame recurring character that can be developed into a movie property.  SNK has become more of a place to audition actors and character ideas aimed at movie pitches, than in making a weekly comedic look at life.
 
2014-06-14 01:02:04 PM  

buntz: Is there something else you've been DYING to see at 11:30 PM on a Saturday night on NBC?


Nope, which is why SNL is probably safe until the next ice age.

To be honest, the "Sofia Vergara scissors Eva Mendes show" could air every week at that timeslot, and I wouldn't get around to seeing until maybe three or four days later on Hulu plus because I almost never watch TV at that hour.
 
2014-06-14 01:04:53 PM  
 "SNL takes every inch and every ounce of my talent, for whatever that's worth."

Not much.
 
2014-06-14 01:06:37 PM  

buntz: I don't know why people keep thinking SNL has to "die"

Is there something else you've been DYING to see at 11:30 PM on a Saturday night on NBC?

Who cares if it's on or not!?

To me it's a television staple that's been on my whole life.  I haven't sat and 'watched' it in 20 years but when something good happens, it's on the internet the next day.

It launches some funny people and we have that to thank for it.

If it's bad, I don't end up seeing those skits online.  Really, what's the issue here?


You're being far too reasonable. Especially for Fark.
 
2014-06-14 01:08:28 PM  
SNL has always been a great 60-minute show. Unfortunately, it has 90 minutes of airtime to fill.
 
2014-06-14 01:08:45 PM  

luidprand: They best not get rid of Aidy Bryant, Vanessa Bayer, Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong, Sasheer Zamata, or Beck Bennett,


I agrees witchu:
Keep as repertory: Aidy, Vanessa, Kate, Cecily, Taran and Bobby (for one more year).
Keep as featured: Sasheer, Beck and Kyle.
Move back to the writing staff: Mike O'Brien and Colin Jost.

A trim cast will allow individuals to better develop, Cecily gets the desk to herself, and Beck & Kyle can keep it quirky with pre-taped stuff.
 
2014-06-14 01:15:06 PM  

buntz: I don't know why people keep thinking SNL has to "die"


Because it's the television equivalent of someone at a party in 2014 spouting quotes from Austin Powers. You wouldn't just try to ignore that person. You'd probably punch that person in the face and fart in his drink.
 
2014-06-14 01:42:02 PM  

Dr. Steve Brule: buntz: I don't know why people keep thinking SNL has to "die"

Because it's the television equivalent of someone at a party in 2014 spouting quotes from Austin Powers. You wouldn't just try to ignore that person. You'd probably punch that person in the face and fart in his drink.


No, it's really not.

And I don't assault people who spout out tired movie lines. I don't have that level of deep-seeded anger and hate for humanity.

Also, I realize I'm talking to a Tim & Eric fan about comedy and that makes this pointless.
 
2014-06-14 02:26:54 PM  

Dr. Steve Brule: Because it's the television equivalent of someone at a party in 2014 spouting quotes from Austin Powers.


But so what?  It's like the people that get all bent out of shape over remakes.

Oh no, they remade "Fright Night!"  Now I can no longer enjoy the original "Fright Night!"

What?  They remade "Total Recall?"  Now I won't be able to ever see the original again!  CURSES!!!

Who cares?!!
 
2014-06-14 02:32:52 PM  

boogerwolf: Simply put: SNL needs to die. It has ran its course. Thanks for all the great comedians but now, to the cornfield with you.


Shhhh!  They're listening!  Now they're going to remake "Hee Haw" and it's your fault.
 
2014-06-14 02:46:20 PM  

luidprand: They best not get rid of Aidy Bryant, Vanessa Bayer, Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong, Sasheer Zamata, or Beck Bennett,

/The last two are negotiable.


Aidy Bryant and Kate McKinnon are my two favorite current cast members. After all the crap they took last season before hiring Sasheer Zamata she'll stick around. Cecily Strong is safe on Update but Colin Jost possibly is out since he didn't exactly set the world in fire after taking over last season. Vanessa Bayer and Beck Bennett I don't have strong opinions about.
 
2014-06-14 02:54:15 PM  
People who complain about SNL haven't been accurate or insightful since the 80s. It's time to stop.
 
2014-06-14 03:28:52 PM  
I can't look at bobby moynihan without laughing.
 
2014-06-14 04:02:34 PM  

EvilMonkeyBoy: Dr. Steve Brule: buntz: I don't know why people keep thinking SNL has to "die"

Because it's the television equivalent of someone at a party in 2014 spouting quotes from Austin Powers. You wouldn't just try to ignore that person. You'd probably punch that person in the face and fart in his drink.

No, it's really not.

And I don't assault people who spout out tired movie lines. I don't have that level of deep-seeded anger and hate for humanity.

Also, I realize I'm talking to a Tim & Eric fan about comedy and that makes this pointless.


For a connoisseur of comedy, you take Internet comments very seriously.
 
2014-06-14 04:10:30 PM  
I don't think SNL "needs to die", but I don't think it's going to be great again until Lorne Michaels lets someone else take over.
 
2014-06-14 04:50:01 PM  

buntz: It's like the people that get all bent out of shape over remakes.


Eh, it's not the analogy I'd choose. The only reason I "care" (and we're using that term extremely lightly) about the fate of SNL is because I think they're unnecessarily hampering themselves trying to do the same show they've done for 40 years. Especially when other shows do the things SNL used to do well, but do them better. The show just doesn't have the talent on the writing or the acting side that it used to have. Why not retool it, at the very least?
 
2014-06-14 04:51:36 PM  
I said 15 years ago they needed to cut it to an hour and learn when to quit a bit. They got great material then milked the laughs until there was nothing left. They dragged each bit out a couple minutes too long. I assume they still do, based on comments I see from time to time. I gave up long ago.
 
2014-06-14 05:14:34 PM  

redly1: LOL, yeah, cause NBC has all kinds of "better" shows they could throw in to that "highly coveted" timeslot.


They could air reruns of "Your Show of Shows" and "The Colgate Comedy Hour".

Any Pie Left:
Lorne doesn't allow nearly as much political humor now as he did in the first decade of the show. I think this is for two reasons: one, political jokes and skits tend to have a short, ephemeral shelf life that doesn't work well in selling DVD "best of" collections.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, the first 5 seasons, when they were released on DVD sold fairly well. They had to spend a ton on music rights however, so they might not have been very profitable because of THAT. I have those sets, and the humor is MUCH better than the modern era. The "worst" skits from the 1970's are fantastic compared to the "best" skits of today.
 
2014-06-14 05:46:42 PM  
SNL needs to get risky with its content again.  Dump buckets of blow and condoms in the writing room.
 
2014-06-14 05:56:53 PM  
Hopefully this means getting rid of Colin Jost. He sucks on Weekend Update, and he sucks as the head writer.
 
2014-06-14 05:57:28 PM  
You know what needs to die? Alternative comedy.
 
2014-06-14 07:12:50 PM  

Killer Cars: buntz: Is there something else you've been DYING to see at 11:30 PM on a Saturday night on NBC?

Nope, which is why SNL is probably safe until the next ice age.

To be honest, the "Sofia Vergara scissors Eva Mendes show" could air every week at that timeslot, and I wouldn't get around to seeing until maybe three or four days later on Hulu plus because I almost never watch TV at that hour.


I think it's as safe as 60 Minutes is on Sunday evening.
 
2014-06-14 08:34:56 PM  
bring back the kid with the padded but to look like opie, that was funny, was a few years back but was last time I really watched
 
2014-06-14 09:01:35 PM  
As inevitable as Nasim leaving is (especially due to her role in a show that will get cancelled in 6 weeks or less), I am incredibly sad about this. She was, when given the chance, incredibly funny - and hot as a million suns on top of that. Unfortunately, she kept getting pushed aside for every other woman in the cast (not saying they weren't/aren't hilarious in their own rights, but dammit - give the woman a bone).
 
2014-06-14 10:52:06 PM  

EvilMonkeyBoy: And I don't assault people who spout out tired movie lines. I don't have that level of deep-seeded anger and hate for humanity.


I always thought the phrase was 'deep seated'.
 
2014-06-15 08:37:07 AM  

Any Pie Left: Portlandia was a revelation,


Agreed, that show gets better every season* (unless you hate Fred's schtick, like my wife.  Can't fix that! So watch another show) but isn't Lorne on the credits of that show, too? (It's produced by Broadway Video)
 
2014-06-15 09:30:26 AM  
SNL hasn't been funny for at least 15 years. Stick a fork in it, it's done.
 
2014-06-15 09:35:42 AM  

edmo: "SNL takes every inch and every ounce of my talent, for whatever that's worth"

Translation: he's never had another job and has no idea what else to do.


Actually, at this point, he's doing more than he ever has.  He's like the Huntchback of Rockefeller Center: he's been there so long he knows all the secrets, and he's gotten all sorts of bizarre things in his contract.  He's now an exec producer on the Tonight Show.  He's a producer on the Late Show.  He hired Conan, Fallon, etc.  He was producer on 20 Rock.  His Broadway video owns the right to the older SNL stuff, and he gets a producer contract on any movie made from any character developed on SNL.

He is (to paraphrase Sherlock Holmes) the Napoleon of Comedy.
 
2014-06-15 10:53:56 AM  
This past season has been the worse. I've watched the show since day one and every year it stinks more and more. Cut the cast in half (it seems like 10 min. to introduce the cast at the start). This past year events have been comedy gold for the opening skit but most of them just lay there lame. Maybe when they write the skits and jokes then rehearse them over and over with a bunch of yes people hanging around ( Is it funny ? Hell Yeah it's funny, it'll rock the house..) they believe it's funny then flops when put on the air. I've read better material on FARK then what SNL comes up with.
 
2014-06-15 03:19:44 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: He was producer on 20 Rock.


Was that the one with Nina Fay and Edward James Almost?

Any Pie Left: SNK has become more of a place to audition actors and character ideas aimed at movie pitches, than in making a weekly comedic look at life.


I always felt it would be remembered for the Ninja Blacksox and the Lovely Ladies.
 
2014-06-15 06:02:22 PM  

galactus5000: As inevitable as Nasim leaving is (especially due to her role in a show that will get cancelled in 6 weeks or less), I am incredibly sad about this. She was, when given the chance, incredibly funny - and hot as a million suns on top of that. Unfortunately, she kept getting pushed aside for every other woman in the cast (not saying they weren't/aren't hilarious in their own rights, but dammit - give the woman a bone).


I'll give her a bone, if you know what I mean...

/sorry, just had to say it
//will miss Nasim on the show, she was pretty funny
 
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