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2014-06-14 12:27:22 AM  
"Oral sex is also well known among short-nosed fruit bats."

Interesting, yes. But well known?
 
2014-06-14 12:34:26 AM  

FoonFlake: "Oral sex is also well known among short-nosed fruit bats."

Interesting, yes. But well known?


Within some circles, yes.

: )
 
2014-06-14 12:38:23 AM  
You and I, baby, ain't nothin' but mammals
so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel
 
2014-06-14 01:00:24 AM  
With the prevalence of barbed penises and other oddities in the animal kingdom, I'd say this might be half true...
 
2014-06-14 01:03:13 AM  
Pleasure for whom?
 
2014-06-14 01:19:27 AM  
male cats have barbed penises. hard to imagine how that would be pleasurable for the females.

ever heard cats farking? does it sound fun?
 
2014-06-14 01:19:37 AM  
They are shameless

resources0.news.com.au
 
2014-06-14 01:46:59 AM  
Why should we only be the lucky ones?
 
2014-06-14 01:50:17 AM  

phlegmmo: FoonFlake: "Oral sex is also well known among short-nosed fruit bats."

Interesting, yes. But well known?

Within some circles, yes.

: )


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"Go on..."
 
2014-06-14 02:14:19 AM  
A few days ago I saw two squirrels going at it on the side of a tree. The chick was trying her damndest to get away, but the dude was just not having it.  It was fairly amusing.
 
2014-06-14 02:18:36 AM  
Why wouldn't they?
 
2014-06-14 02:22:47 AM  
Well, seeing as how dolphins and otters are known to rape things to death, I'd say yea..
 
2014-06-14 02:23:51 AM  

FoonFlake: "Oral sex is also well known among short-nosed fruit bats."

Interesting, yes. But well known?


Oh. Yes, I hadn't considered that meaning.

I interpreted "well known" as merely meaning "common"... so "oral sex is also common among fruit bats." But I suppose it could also be that the scientists have a circumscribed group of acquaintances with esoteric knowledge of animal sexuality... and assume most everyone knows this.
 
2014-06-14 02:29:12 AM  
Where does duck rape fit into things?
 
2014-06-14 02:31:19 AM  

wildcardjack: Where does duck rape fit into things?


/racercars, rapings, aeroplaaaanes
 
2014-06-14 02:38:15 AM  
I'm going to be really pissed if she's been faking it this whole time.
 
2014-06-14 02:41:58 AM  

wildcardjack: Where does duck rape fit into things?


Well its certainly not funny. Only clown rape is funny.
 
2014-06-14 02:43:37 AM  

wildcardjack: Where does duck rape fit into things?


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2014-06-14 02:44:06 AM  
Yes. Yes they do. I know because I'm an animal and I FvK for the  sole purpose of pleasure.

Well, mine AND hers.

/Take note Ettes.

//*click* *click*
 
2014-06-14 02:45:09 AM  
Is it roll-play night?
 
2014-06-14 02:47:47 AM  

Notabunny: Is it roll-play night?


Yep. My spring roll just landed on Free Parking, while the cinnamon roll totes got destroyed on Park Place.
 
2014-06-14 02:50:31 AM  
Why are humans so arrogant?
 
2014-06-14 02:52:03 AM  

LS1Bird: Why are humans so arrogant?


To answer both you and Subby's question, its dog eat dog out there.
 
2014-06-14 02:54:43 AM  

cryinoutloud: They are shameless

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Full Moon Sex Frenzy is the name of my new band.

Canton: wildcardjack: Where does duck rape fit into things?

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Molest the Ducks is the title track.
 
2014-06-14 02:55:35 AM  
If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.
 
2014-06-14 02:55:56 AM  

tonguedepressor: LS1Bird: Why are humans so arrogant?

To answer both you and Subby's question, its dog eat dog out there.


And I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear.
 
2014-06-14 02:56:30 AM  

tonguedepressor: Yes. Yes they do. I know because I'm an animal and I FvK for the  sole purpose of pleasure.

Well, mine AND hers.

/Take note Ettes.

//*click* *click*


Too bad that's such a limited view.
 
2014-06-14 02:58:47 AM  

RoyBatty: If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.


Hell, why do most pet-animals love to be petted? Sure dogs have evolved bullshiat behaviors to placate humans, but I don't think the loving being petted and scratched is one of them.

Also, your dog might be a homo.
 
2014-06-14 03:02:05 AM  

RoyBatty: If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.


Residual attitudes from when just kind of went with, 'they have no soul so therefore are inferior beings with no feelings'. Scientists have been remarkably slow to accept the idea that animals have emotions or even consciousness. I guess it's just that it's hard to objectively measure consciousness, and since the cultural assumptions were based off of religious dogma that held one thing, that was just kind of accepted until someone got around to challenging it.

Anyway, it isn't base instinct when the cat decides to pee in your slippers. It means she's seriously pissed at you.
 
2014-06-14 03:05:08 AM  

ladyfortuna: tonguedepressor: Yes. Yes they do. I know because I'm an animal and I FvK for the  sole purpose of pleasure.

Well, mine AND hers.

/Take note Ettes.

//*click* *click*

Too bad that's such a limited view.


Really?  What am I missing?
 
2014-06-14 03:05:09 AM  

robohobo: RoyBatty: If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.

Hell, why do most pet-animals love to be petted? Sure dogs have evolved bullshiat behaviors to placate humans, but I don't think the loving being petted and scratched is one of them.

Also, your dog might be a homo.


Who doesn't love a massage? Dogs and Cats have figured out that if they do some useful things for humans on occasion, they get a lifetime of free massages.
 
2014-06-14 03:05:40 AM  

ladyfortuna: tonguedepressor: Yes. Yes they do. I know because I'm an animal and I FvK for the  sole purpose of pleasure.

Well, mine AND hers.

/Take note Ettes.

//*click* *click*

Too bad that's such a limited view.


Random question here. I see you sell old retro games. Do you have a  Punch-Out Special Edition NES cart? I've been looking for one for 15 years now.
 
2014-06-14 03:07:10 AM  
I should add that it's not just cats and dogs. I was a docent at a zoo for a while in high school- the giant tortoises LOVED getting their necks rubbed. Lots of other animals like it too, it's just hard to safely pet the tigers.
 
2014-06-14 03:08:05 AM  

cptjeff: robohobo: RoyBatty: If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.

Hell, why do most pet-animals love to be petted? Sure dogs have evolved bullshiat behaviors to placate humans, but I don't think the loving being petted and scratched is one of them.

Also, your dog might be a homo.

Who doesn't love a massage? Dogs and Cats have figured out that if they do some useful things for humans on occasion, they get a lifetime of free massages.


Actually, I don't like a massage, but I'm weird that way and don't like to be overly touched. I think scientists are way underestimating animals, here. There seems to be a very deep need to keep humans so far above and special in relation to animals.
 
2014-06-14 03:09:23 AM  

cptjeff: I should add that it's not just cats and dogs. I was a docent at a zoo for a while in high school- the giant tortoises LOVED getting their necks rubbed. Lots of other animals like it too, it's just hard to safely pet the tigers.


What does a tortoise neck feel like? A more plate-y snake? And how would they show their enjoyment?
 
2014-06-14 03:11:44 AM  

RoyBatty: If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.


Yeah, it kind of would have to be pleasurable. I mean, the motivation to procreate isn't enough, and that probably requires more planning than some species are capable of. Hormones, though, and brain chemicals... Oh, those are motivation enough. They don't require planning at all. Pleasure means more offspring.

The drive to have sex isn't even necessarily connected to parental instincts. The sheep my family raise come with strong maternal instincts (Well, the ewes do; the rams just wanna have sexy fun times) and will occasionally steal newborn lambs. Even unbred ewes will try sometimes. One unbred ewe actually succeeded one year. Her milk actually came in, eventually, although that lamb had to be on the bottle for a few weeks.

That was a weird year.

Another retired ewe had to be kept away from lambs because she desperately wanted them. Eventually we had her look after a pair of bottle lambs (whose own dam had stolen another lamb from a newbie who'd twinned), and the old girl did an excellent job looking after them. Her milk never came in. Just as well. She was well into her teens by then...

/Not sure where I was going with this...
//Separate drives, I guess
///A disconnect between motives?
////Sheep anecdotes are fun
 
2014-06-14 03:13:12 AM  

Canton: ////Sheep anecdotes are fun


Especially for the Scottish.
 
2014-06-14 03:17:57 AM  

robohobo: Canton: ////Sheep anecdotes are fun

Especially for the Scottish.


Baa means nae!
 
2014-06-14 03:18:56 AM  
TFA: "Sex, we are told, is pleasurable." Apparently the author is going off hearsay but has no actual first-hand experience with the subject.
 
2014-06-14 03:19:32 AM  

RoyBatty: Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.


Because your dog doesn't respect you. It's a domination thing. You are weak, therefore you shall be treated like a biatch. :P
 
2014-06-14 03:23:50 AM  
Furry thread?
 
2014-06-14 03:24:22 AM  

Czechzican: RoyBatty: Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.

Because your dog doesn't respect you. It's a domination thing. You are weak, therefore you shall be treated like a biatch. :P


Huh, I had been thinking it was robohobo's suggestion and was trying to be supportive.
 
2014-06-14 03:28:54 AM  

robohobo: cptjeff: robohobo: RoyBatty: If a biologist believes in evolution, I wonder why the null hypothesis is that animals don't usually feel what we feel?

Do they think pleasure is solely in the human brain and not a function of the nerve endings in the genitals?

What is the evidence that pleasure is a function of higher cognitive functions?

Why do we think animals act instinctually to copulate, but don't want to associate with that instinct a pleasure reward?

Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.

Hell, why do most pet-animals love to be petted? Sure dogs have evolved bullshiat behaviors to placate humans, but I don't think the loving being petted and scratched is one of them.

Also, your dog might be a homo.

Who doesn't love a massage? Dogs and Cats have figured out that if they do some useful things for humans on occasion, they get a lifetime of free massages.

Actually, I don't like a massage, but I'm weird that way and don't like to be overly touched. I think scientists are way underestimating animals, here. There seems to be a very deep need to keep humans so far above and special in relation to animals.


I've known animals who don't like to be touched either. One of my brother in law's relatives has a cat that will bite you (like seriously bite, not play bite) if you put your hand within about a foot of her. They also have a German Shepard. Neighborhood kids (and I have seen this happen in person) love the Shepard, will pet it, even though the dog is much larger than they are. They shriek and run away if that cat approaches. She is not a friendly cat.

I've known other cats who just run and hide rather than let people pet them. My cat is pretty distrustful- there are about 2 people she's ever allowed to rub her belly. Hell, her flank is off limits to most. Just a personality thing, really, though it's certainly possible that certain personality types have been reinforced by breeding over the years. There has been research on introversion/extroversion in animals too- Dogs and cats exhibit at least that same personality dynamic.

Anyway, I also suspect the need to keep humans far and above animals arises from the realization that if we remove that stark divide, a lot of very serious ethical questions arise. In large part it's probably just avoidance.
 
2014-06-14 03:33:02 AM  

robohobo: cptjeff: I should add that it's not just cats and dogs. I was a docent at a zoo for a while in high school- the giant tortoises LOVED getting their necks rubbed. Lots of other animals like it too, it's just hard to safely pet the tigers.

What does a tortoise neck feel like? A more plate-y snake? And how would they show their enjoyment?


Leathery. It is skin, albeit tough skin. The neck isn't scaly. As for expressing their pleasure, they stretch out their necks as long as they go, look upward, narrow their eyes, and get a fairly blissful look on their face.
 
2014-06-14 03:35:18 AM  

RoyBatty: Czechzican: RoyBatty: Why does my dog hump my leg? It's not just for the snausages I give him.

Because your dog doesn't respect you. It's a domination thing. You are weak, therefore you shall be treated like a biatch. :P

Huh, I had been thinking it was robohobo's suggestion and was trying to be supportive.


Nein. It's about domination. Just like how alpha males will try hump other dogs that happen to be in it's area.

My nextdoor neighbour has a fox terrier that she lets run around off leash. It has started so many fights with other dogs for that very reason, yet the woman doesn't see the problem with her dog. She has been yelled at by so many people about it. It's a domination issue.
 
2014-06-14 03:41:41 AM  

JonnyBGoode: TFA: "Sex, we are told, is pleasurable." Apparently the author is going off hearsay but has no actual first-hand experience with the subject.


He's a biologist who's chosen field of study is watching animals fark.

Of course he has no actual first hand experience.
 
2014-06-14 03:48:44 AM  

some_beer_drinker: male cats have barbed penises. hard to imagine how that would be pleasurable for the females.

ever heard cats farking? does it sound fun?


The pleasurable part is most likely the social heirarchy, for the females at least. For the males, its probably like trying to play Kerplunk inside of a chinese finger trap, where sinking the enemy battleship returns your loss as an australian funnelweb tarantula gnawing event and metal-storm-like incursions of puncture wounds to the face from angry female claws. Then you get to say that you did that and piss all over whatever any other males decide to piss off about on.
 
2014-06-14 04:03:45 AM  

wildcardjack: Where does duck rape fit into things?


Well, among mallards there is a lot of gay sex, and there isn't much point to kicking in his brown door if it isn't fun for somebody.  Same with lesbian dolphins and every other form of homogay animal pairing that involves genital action.

I mean if it was just two dude penguins raising an egg together and not having sex, that would be a different story.
 
2014-06-14 04:07:36 AM  

Witness99: wildcardjack: Where does duck rape fit into things?

For the last time, it's DUCT tape, not duck tape.


duct tape is no longer practical.  You will always need zip ties.
 
2014-06-14 04:12:53 AM  

Xxplosiv: The pleasurable part is most likely the social heirarchy, for the females at least. For the males, its probably like trying to play Kerplunk inside of a chinese finger trap, where sinking the enemy battleship returns your loss as an australian funnelweb tarantula gnawing event and metal-storm-like incursions of puncture wounds to the face from angry female claws. Then you get to say that you did that and piss all over whatever any other males decide to piss off about on.


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