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(Some Guy)   Bob Jones University explains why their no-interracial-dating policy isn't racist   ( divider line
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7610 clicks; posted to Main » on 11 Dec 2001 at 2:34 AM (16 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2001-12-11 02:36:33 AM  
And in other old news, Germany invades France. (Jeez, this link was written almost 2 years ago!)
2001-12-11 02:38:08 AM  
And I'm second to post. crap!
2001-12-11 02:40:15 AM  
Square One!
2001-12-11 02:40:59 AM  
March 3, 2000"

No there a drunken hooker posting this garbage?
2001-12-11 02:41:45 AM  
That was a long winded way of saying "innocent". But I agree with BetchaCantEatJustOne. Almost two years ago? Wouldn't that make this a moot point by now?
2001-12-11 02:42:21 AM  
Damn it,we can't have wimpy,pasty,whitey crackerboy genes weakening the black race!
2001-12-11 02:43:26 AM  
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This is what happens!
2001-12-11 02:47:22 AM  
I don't see anything in their statement regarding inter-racial dating. Does anyone have an article critiquing this policy or did someone pull it out of their ass?
2001-12-11 02:49:11 AM  
We don't quake or blush with embarrassment over the term "religious conservatives."

WTF do religious freedom and interracial dating have to do with each other? "Gee, ever since I married that eskimo, I've found myself overcome with the irresistable urge to kill Buddhists!" Oh well, given the italicized quote above, I guess I can't expect our pal Bobby "Big Pimpin'" Jones to have a surplus in the ol' reason department.
2001-12-11 02:50:22 AM  
The University apparrently justified a rascist belief by claiming religious freedom. That's an interesting way of defending rascism - I don't believe that I've seen that method used before.
2001-12-11 02:53:44 AM  

Get some glasses. I hear LensCrafter is having a half-off sale this month
2001-12-11 02:54:12 AM  
Gotta love the chewbacca defense: THE CORE ISSUE IS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. "Ladies and gentleman of the supposed jury, some members of Congress, special-interest groups and the media have in so many words accused of us racial intolerance. In an attempt to sidestep the issue altogether, we would like to address this accusation by pointing out that here at BJU, we're rooting for Christ 24/7. In conclusion, THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE."

Also, I just find it funny in my post 2:30am stupor that 1: it's called "Bob" Jones University (WTF happened to Robert?) and 2: the acronym is "BJ"U.
2001-12-11 03:00:22 AM  
Punkr10426: Isn't that the way the KKK defends its racism? I think they say they are only imposing Christian values on society, too.
2001-12-11 03:07:57 AM  
2001-12-11 03:16:55 AM  
This article says they dropped their inter-racial dating ban back in March 2000. So what's the story? did they re-instate the ban since then?
2001-12-11 03:19:13 AM  
the letter never addresses the much talked about inter-racial dating ban. Perhaps they could not find biblical support for that good old fashioned, southern racism. Oh, I'm sorry, they call that heritage now.

We have no problem with good, hard working, Christ-ian Negro-Americans. Just keep them away from the white women.
2001-12-11 03:31:10 AM  
Jebediah: Actually, the KKK doesn't claim to be rascist. They say that they are for racial seperation but do not hate other races. So their defense strategy is to just lie. Here's the link:

The funniest part of the web page is the kids section.
2001-12-11 03:37:54 AM  
bob's new stuff is a little harsh. i liked him when he used to be underground:
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2001-12-11 03:38:12 AM  
"Why, we even threw some money at one of them black-types once and there twain't no quota sayin' we hadduh neither!"

Shut up, Bob.
2001-12-11 03:47:21 AM  
"Negro...ain't that there some kinda fertilizer?"
2001-12-11 03:49:29 AM  
"We have welcomed officeholders and conservative candidates from the Republican party virtually since the school was founded more than 73 years ago".

Admitted exclusion.

If they changed their policy, it doesn't mean they aren't the same people with the same ideas, but who gave in to popular opinion because they have no spine.
2001-12-11 04:07:12 AM  
Sounds like that ever loved phrase "I'm not racist, but..."
2001-12-11 04:09:47 AM  
Ever notice that when you see a black man with a white girl, 8 times out of 10 she's fat and ugly? I'm not the only one that's noticed this.

Still, blacks are hollering that blacks and whites are equal (which we are). So how come black guys are forever chasing white women? Aren't their women good enough? Seems a little hypocritical to me, is all. Or maybe it's because black girls know better--they've grown up with male relatives and know all the BS they try to lay on a girl, so they're not about to be fooled.

And no I'm not racist, just making an observation.
2001-12-11 04:11:06 AM  
Damn it,we can't have wimpy,pasty,whitey crackerboy genes weakening the black race! Kthulhu

Hahahaha... Funny shiat, well, back to Babylon.
2001-12-11 04:13:22 AM  
Still, blacks are hollering that blacks and whites are equal (which we are). So how come black guys are forever chasing white women? Aren't their women good enough? Seems a little hypocritical to me, is all.

Oh, I don't know, maybe because white women are eight times as numerous as black women. Gee, couldn't be that there's just MORE of them could it.
2001-12-11 04:15:15 AM  
Here's a bumper sticker I could go for.

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2001-12-11 04:18:22 AM  
Careful MacFrugal, there are plenty of people who hate the heritage of others without understanding more than a lightining rod.
2001-12-11 04:18:58 AM  
I think the bumper sticker idea would rock even harder if the word heritage had quotes around it.
2001-12-11 04:20:53 AM  
Newbaca: Read the rest of my post. Maybe it's because they're more likely to fall for smooth-talking BS.

My preference is and was to marry in my own race, and I better not get called racist for it! That's a problem in the area where I live. If a white girl won't date a black guy she's labeled as racist. Guilt trip.

Not much different than wanting to date a guy who's a certain height or who has certain hair/eye color.
2001-12-11 04:23:31 AM  
I'm not getting into this right now - the word heritage in this case isn't about cultural history. Te rrebel flag is a symbol regarding slavery. If the south was worried about "states' rights" they would've revolted many years before the civil war. They only revolted because they percieved Lincoln to be a threat to the increasing profitability of slavery.
2001-12-11 04:25:30 AM  
LadyAlexa: Whatever your preferences, I find it hard to believe you are being pressured to date black men or be labelled a racist. If so, mixed marriages would be far more common.
2001-12-11 04:31:37 AM  
actually it's completely different than hair color or eye color. Race is a big issue in America today -don't try passing it off as a something that people treat as just another gene. There is a great amount of discrimination regarding race, whereas eye color or hair color are often looked over. To say that it is just like hair color or eye color is not true - because more often than not people will overlook hair/eye preferences and not race preferences. Anyways, it'll be your loss in the end. You're missing out on a lot of guys (probably half of the population) over some asinine racial preference.
2001-12-11 04:32:24 AM  
lady alexa:
i agree w/the guilt trip thing. it is so not fair. one time this black dude walked up to me while shopping and asked me for my phone #. i didnt give it to him, and he was like "oh this must be a race thing" and gave me a very ugly look. i just stood there bewildered. it was not about race at all, i dont give my # to people i have never met before.
2001-12-11 04:34:16 AM  
pursuant: i would think that guilt-tripping someone into bed and guilt-tripping somone into a marriage are two very different things. add that to the notoriously low marriage rate with blacks, even among themselves, and the rate of mixed marriages makes sense.

Punkr10426: i take it, that in your journey to medical school, you have all but skipped history courses.
2001-12-11 04:35:14 AM  
OK, being a white Christian male who happens to be married to a black Christian female I think I have something to say here.

I have known TONS about BJU for a while now. The denomination that is behind them is the "Independent Baptists." I suppose when they say they aren't "RACIST," they could be sorta telling the truth BUT only in the same way the clan says they aren't racist. They are definitely SEPARATISTS. On sunday mornings, in an independent baptist church not too far from where I live, I know that it was common practice for white people to be in one sunday school class while black people were in a different one.

I take serious offense at BJU, Independent Baptists and any of these nutjobs that twist scripture to have it suit their desires.

There is NOTHING "unbiblical" about interracial dating or marriage. C'mon...Moses was a Jew who was married to an African. That's interracial. There are plenty of instances in the bible were "Godly" people were in interracial relationships.

There's a Christian musician named Steve Taylor who wrote a song back in the 80's slamming Bob Jones called "We Don't Need No Color Code." He writes some really great tongue-in-cheek type stuff and is (unlike most Christian rock music) actually quite talented and fun to listen to.
2001-12-11 04:36:36 AM  
My preference is and was to marry in my own race, and I better not get called racist for it!
I have the same preference and I belong to the HUMAN race. As far as people are concerned, I am color blind.
2001-12-11 04:39:39 AM  
Damn, I thought I color coded that (and this) correctly.
I need that preview thingee.
2001-12-11 04:45:39 AM  
Appie: it is understandable when people want to marry and date within their own race, not due to color, but due to inherent cultural differences, or rather similarities. People like to hang out with people that think, talk, and act similar to the way that they do.
mixing cultures has a profound effect on people. i happen to be married to a puertorican and have a mixed-race son. even though my wife and i grew up only 5 miles apart, it is still very apparent that we are different; different in more than just color. it worked for us, but people who choose to date and marry within thier own race should not have to be ridiculed or called names because of it.
2001-12-11 04:54:33 AM  
Desade: "Guilt tripping" people into bed is a different issue. If someone farks someone else so they don't appear "racist", then they need to reconsider their values. It's not a raceissue then.
2001-12-11 04:54:59 AM  
actually, the confederate flag is a symbol for southern heritage. like it or not, it is a part of history.(emphasis on history)
i guess you can thank the good ol rednecks for keeping it around and using it as a racism prop.
2001-12-11 05:04:29 AM  
The swasticka is a part of german history, but few wave it proudly.
2001-12-11 05:06:25 AM  
Before anyone argues with "few", I will say it is still not mainstream.
2001-12-11 05:06:26 AM  
Desade: no, I haven't skipped history classes. However, I thank you for your interest in my education. I am actually pretty close to the credits for a history minor. I really don't feel like going into the arguements over the civil war and its cause, but I would just like to say that I have a deeper understanding of the socio-political climate of the time period than you have assumed.

As for cultural differences as a dividing factor, I must say that I find the idea using culture to divide is quite sad. I realize that certain priorities are different within different cultures. However, these are transcendable differences. My parents are from different ends of the world: my mother is a Russian immigrant and my father is a Pakistani immigrant. They have been married for over twenty years.
2001-12-11 05:10:24 AM  
pursuant: values tend to take a back seat in many modern teenage girls' mind. thank mtv.

also, believe it or not there are people who are pround to be from the south. proud of the openess and easiness of the southern atitude. it is possible to be proud of the majority of your heritage, and use the bad parts as a reminder of what can happen when social values get twisted.
2001-12-11 05:13:33 AM  
I never said it was easy for a couple of different cultural backgrounds (I do have some experience in that regard), and I won't ridicule anybody for choosing to date and/or marry only in their own "race", but I do pity them for the missed experiences, which will (almost) always be interesting.

Vive la différence!
2001-12-11 05:23:28 AM  
Punkr10426: i stand corrected. i made an asumption due to the fact that no well-read student of history will say with a straight face that the south "...revolted because they percieved Lincoln to be a threat to the increasing profitability of slavery." my apologies. btw, culture and color naturally divide people. people have to make an effort to overcome this genetic "feature." it is even apparent in very young children. for example, in a study (released last year) a reseacher showed preschoolers pictures of different races and asked questions like "which of these kids doesn't obey their parents?" and "when of these girls has been naughty?" invaribaly the child choose the pictures of childeren of a different race than their own for negative responses. this was consistant among races of children in the study. so apparently, we come with a little bit of racism bit in.

sad i know.
2001-12-11 05:30:50 AM  
Desade: I agree that there is a division between races. I would doubt that it is genetic - more likely fears picked up from their parents and society as a whole. However, this division is hardly an excuse to avoid other races in any fashion. Any good relationship requires work and barriers to be overcome. I just don't see why race should be the one division which people choose not to overcome.
2001-12-11 05:31:59 AM  
Desade: That study (which I know nothing about and you gave no references. I don't mean you are making it up, just that I have no way to challenge its' validity) could still be easily tainted, such as small children not trusting those different, either because of what they learned from their parents or, what I doubt you are trying to imply, that they instinctively distrust those who look different from them, such as skin colour.
2001-12-11 05:34:30 AM  
Actually, the swastika is an old Indian symbol that Hitler swiped. . .
2001-12-11 05:37:53 AM  
Randy: Hitler adopted it, and corrupted it, but it is still regarded as a nazi symbol in 2001. It's origins in history are meaningless now, just like christmas as a paegan holiday.
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