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(Washington Post)   Scienticians shocked to discover that cities with bike share programs have seen a rise in head injuries   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 92
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2014-06-13 09:47:29 AM
I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-13 11:25:16 AM
"scienticians"? Guessing subby lives in one of these cities.
 
2014-06-13 11:25:29 AM
Huh, that's not the end I'd have suspected.
 
2014-06-13 11:25:32 AM

InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:


What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E
 
2014-06-13 11:27:33 AM
FTA: On Wednesday the Dallas City Council eliminated helmet laws for adults, saying it would increase ridership of the bike share program.

That's doubling down on derp right there.
 
2014-06-13 11:29:11 AM

Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E


Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.
 
2014-06-13 11:29:55 AM

mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.


Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?
 
2014-06-13 11:30:25 AM
The argument isn't wrong.   But what other studies have shown is that the overall death rate likely goes down due to lower obesity related conditions.  Head injuries are traumatic, and noticeable, but death rate computations have to include other factors.
 
2014-06-13 11:31:02 AM

Elliot8654: Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?


This is America.
 
2014-06-13 11:31:39 AM

ikanreed: Elliot8654: Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

This is America.


Meaning?
Oh, that cars rule, and bikes need to get out of the way or get run over?
 
2014-06-13 11:31:41 AM

Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E


Ditto. I actually had someone lean out of their vehicle from the passenger side and punch me in the back when I was riding.
 
2014-06-13 11:34:06 AM

Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?


like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic
 
2014-06-13 11:34:41 AM
These guys are geniuses
 
2014-06-13 11:34:41 AM

InterruptingQuirk: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Ditto. I actually had someone lean out of their vehicle from the passenger side and punch me in the back when I was riding.


And if you check out the other comment threads on previous fark articles about cycling, you will find a few of the people who do that.
 
2014-06-13 11:35:34 AM

starsrift: "scienticians"? Guessing subby lives in one of these cities.


citizenscientician.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-13 11:36:05 AM

inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic


Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.

As long as we are all reasonable and take mild precautions, I'm pretty sure you can get to work on time, I can get back to the office, and we can both use the road safely .
 
2014-06-13 11:37:03 AM

Elliot8654: Meaning?
Oh, that cars rule, and bikes need to get out of the way or get run over?


More or less.  Ego and power are tied into consumer identities, packaged into brand named cars and sold.
 
2014-06-13 11:38:51 AM

ikanreed: Elliot8654: Meaning?
Oh, that cars rule, and bikes need to get out of the way or get run over?

More or less.  Ego and power are tied into consumer identities, packaged into brand named cars and sold.


Why is it so hard for everyone to get along?

I have 2 bikes, a regular car, and I inherited a convertible.

Somehow, I manage to drive to work and not run over or punch cyclists. How can others not manage the same when I ride?
 
2014-06-13 11:39:57 AM
It's a brilliant plan though. Cities can cull the herds of the great unwashed, and the needful. I say we go a step further and slip in a few faulty hubs with exploding spokes so we can ramp up to a proper and efficient system by which we reduce the number of those requiring free conveyance.
 
2014-06-13 11:41:07 AM

Elliot8654: Why is it so hard for everyone to get along?

I have 2 bikes, a regular car, and I inherited a convertible.

Somehow, I manage to drive to work and not run over or punch cyclists. How can others not manage the same when I ride?


Is this honest confusion over the issue?  It takes 1 dickbag to do stupid shiat.  It takes every single person not to.
 
2014-06-13 11:41:58 AM
The only real answer is to impose hefty fines for not wearing a helmet when you get on a bike, or leave the house. Say a $500 fine for being caught without a helmet on by the police, or even on camera say on youtube, they could just mail it to your house. This would help the economy by allowing police forces to hire thousands of more workers per city to process these fines all paid for by the fines themselves. In fact for public safety a $1,000 dollar fine for not wearing a helmet would not be unreasonable. This is not just to protect the people wearing the helmets but the people they run into on a daily basis.

This should honestly be a federal law, not state.
 
2014-06-13 11:42:03 AM

Elliot8654: ikanreed: Elliot8654: Meaning?
Oh, that cars rule, and bikes need to get out of the way or get run over?

More or less.  Ego and power are tied into consumer identities, packaged into brand named cars and sold.

Why is it so hard for everyone to get along?

I have 2 bikes, a regular car, and I inherited a convertible.

Somehow, I manage to drive to work and not run over or punch cyclists. How can others not manage the same when I ride?


Some people are just bullies looking for convenient and anonymous targets.
 
2014-06-13 11:43:22 AM

Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E


Which is why I don't ride on streets.
 
2014-06-13 11:44:55 AM

orclover: The only real answer is to impose hefty fines for not wearing a helmet when you get on a bike, or leave the house. Say a $500 fine for being caught without a helmet on by the police, or even on camera say on youtube, they could just mail it to your house. This would help the economy by allowing police forces to hire thousands of more workers per city to process these fines all paid for by the fines themselves. In fact for public safety a $1,000 dollar fine for not wearing a helmet would not be unreasonable. This is not just to protect the people wearing the helmets but the people they run into on a daily basis.

This should honestly be a federal law, not state.


States and Feds can't even agree in this situation and there is a lot more danger and risk

www.vastsolution.com
 
2014-06-13 11:45:19 AM

foo monkey: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Which is why I don't ride on streets.


I do, as I commute to work some days in my bike.

I won't be scared off by the occasional dirtbag who breaks the law to harass cyclists.
 
2014-06-13 11:46:01 AM

foo monkey: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Which is why I don't ride on streets.


It's why I carry a gun.  I'm tired of being the friendly cyclist dude.
 
2014-06-13 11:46:44 AM

fireclown: foo monkey: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Which is why I don't ride on streets.

It's why I carry a gun.  I'm tired of being the friendly cyclist dude.


You are not the only one. There have been several cyclists on here who now have concealed carry due to rogue dangerous motorists
 
2014-06-13 11:48:56 AM

Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.


Not a legitimate one. Cyclists are a race of barely human, power-mad maniacs who get off on impeding traffic. Then when someone says "excuse me, would you mind awfully not blocking the road?" That gets twisted in their brain when they re-tell the story to "He throw stuff at my face and called me a cun!!"

We all know cyclists are the number one cause of death on the roads, so perhaps the idea of sharing our roads with your race is an experiment that has failed and needs to end? How about this, we take all bicycles, melt them down and turn them into a giant sculpture of a car, to show who won. How does that sound? Anything that causes a car to slow down is a danger and impediment to smooth traffic flow. Pedestrians, cyclists, other cars. They should all be banned. Only me and my car.

/can't believe I'm going to have to add a
//I am not entirely serious here, disclaimer.
 
2014-06-13 11:49:06 AM
lol@bike riders
 
2014-06-13 11:51:13 AM

Slaxl: Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.

Not a legitimate one. Cyclists are a race of barely human, power-mad maniacs who get off on impeding traffic. Then when someone says "excuse me, would you mind awfully not blocking the road?" That gets twisted in their brain when they re-tell the story to "He throw stuff at my face and called me a cun!!"

We all know cyclists are the number one cause of death on the roads, so perhaps the idea of sharing our roads with your race is an experiment that has failed and needs to end? How about this, we take all bicycles, melt them down and turn them into a giant sculpture of a car, to show who won. How does that sound? Anything that causes a car to slow down is a danger and impediment to smooth traffic flow. Pedestrians, cyclists, other cars. They should all be banned. Only me and my car.

/can't believe I'm going to have to add a
//I am not entirely serious here, disclaimer.


As sarcasm troll as you are, you would be amazed how many people honestly believe that cyclists that slow down cars are a menace and drivers shouldn't be prosecuted for running them over.
 
2014-06-13 11:52:19 AM

sendtodave: lol@bike riders


Lol@runners
Lol@knitters
Lol@painters


I mean really, who has hobbies? Nerds, right??!
 
2014-06-13 11:53:32 AM
I'm not disagreeing, but which caused which?
 
2014-06-13 11:54:10 AM
www.billscontinuinglife.com

www.billscontinuinglife.com

cdn.mos.bikeradar.com
oi62.tinypic.com
 
2014-06-13 11:55:06 AM

Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.

As long as we are all reasonable and take mild precautions, I'm pretty sure you can get to work on time, I can get back to the office, and we can both use the road safely .


i don't agree.  there are some roads cyclists just should not be on.  "country roads" (i.e. single lane each direction & no shoulder)  forcing motorists to cross the center line in order to pass and risking a head on collision is not an acceptable risk to avoid the peloton.
 
2014-06-13 11:55:16 AM
I ride in the city.  I wear a helmet and stop at stop signs and red lights at least 75% of the time (I have run lights or rolled stop signs in areas where there is literally no traffic).  Dozens of times as I've waited at a red light I've been buzzed by bike share riders and fixie hipsters alike who, sans helmet, have some smart remark for me for "blocking the bike lane".  On several occasions I've watched from my car or my bike as cyclists run red lights in plain view of a cop who does nothing.  In one instance I watched it happen in front of a cop who is notorious for ticketing jay-walkers.

Everyone sucks.
 
2014-06-13 11:57:07 AM

Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.


Sadly, there are plenty of asshats on both sides.
 
2014-06-13 11:57:58 AM
Slaxl:

/can't believe I'm going to have to add a
//I am not entirely serious here, disclaimer.


I know, right? WTF has happened to FARK?
 
2014-06-13 11:58:36 AM
mizchief:

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

You sound fat.
 
2014-06-13 11:58:38 AM

inner ted: Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.

As long as we are all reasonable and take mild precautions, I'm pretty sure you can get to work on time, I can get back to the office, and we can both use the road safely .

i don't agree.  there are some roads cyclists just should not be on.  "country roads" (i.e. single lane each direction & no shoulder)  forcing motorists to cross the center line in order to pass and risking a head on collision is not an acceptable risk to avoid the peloton.


Should they be discouraged? Yes. Should they be banned? No.

And a much as I hate to bring it up, most of those "country roads" and road infrastructure predates cars, and was built by cyclist friendly groups for cyclists. Cars came along later, and have claimed them as their own, displacing the cyclist.
 
2014-06-13 11:59:06 AM

Elliot8654: Slaxl: Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.

Not a legitimate one. Cyclists are a race of barely human, power-mad maniacs who get off on impeding traffic. Then when someone says "excuse me, would you mind awfully not blocking the road?" That gets twisted in their brain when they re-tell the story to "He throw stuff at my face and called me a cun!!"

We all know cyclists are the number one cause of death on the roads, so perhaps the idea of sharing our roads with your race is an experiment that has failed and needs to end? How about this, we take all bicycles, melt them down and turn them into a giant sculpture of a car, to show who won. How does that sound? Anything that causes a car to slow down is a danger and impediment to smooth traffic flow. Pedestrians, cyclists, other cars. They should all be banned. Only me and my car.

/can't believe I'm going to have to add a
//I am not entirely serious here, disclaimer.

As sarcasm troll as you are, you would be amazed how many people honestly believe that cyclists that slow down cars are a menace and drivers shouldn't be prosecuted for running them over.


Stop adding to the growing malady of people calling everything contrary online a "troll" of some sort.
 
2014-06-13 11:59:19 AM
inner ted:

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

You sound fat.
 
2014-06-13 12:00:47 PM
FYI to fatasses, "impede traffic" means "be on any road ever"
 
2014-06-13 12:00:55 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Ditto. I actually had someone lean out of their vehicle from the passenger side and punch me in the back when I was riding.


Well were you riding where you should not be? Perhaps on road built for adult vehicles and you were impeding the flow of traffic.
 
2014-06-13 12:01:07 PM

hasty ambush: [www.billscontinuinglife.com image 850x478]

[www.billscontinuinglife.com image 850x478]

[cdn.mos.bikeradar.com image 280x210]
[oi62.tinypic.com image 550x426]


You sound fat.
 
2014-06-13 12:06:51 PM

hasty ambush: [www.billscontinuinglife.com image 850x478]

[www.billscontinuinglife.com image 850x478]

[cdn.mos.bikeradar.com image 280x210]
[oi62.tinypic.com image 550x426]


My first real bicycle, which I bought when I was 16, cost more than my first car which I bought when I was 17.
 
2014-06-13 12:06:55 PM

Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: inner ted: Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

like the post before mentioned; don't impede traffic

Impede traffic? Cyclists are part of traffic.

As long as we are all reasonable and take mild precautions, I'm pretty sure you can get to work on time, I can get back to the office, and we can both use the road safely .

i don't agree.  there are some roads cyclists just should not be on.  "country roads" (i.e. single lane each direction & no shoulder)  forcing motorists to cross the center line in order to pass and risking a head on collision is not an acceptable risk to avoid the peloton.

Should they be discouraged? Yes. Should they be banned? No.

And a much as I hate to bring it up, most of those "country roads" and road infrastructure predates cars, and was built by cyclist friendly groups for cyclists. Cars came along later, and have claimed them as their own, displacing the cyclist.


Wait, what? Are you trying to say country roads were constricted by cyclist, for cyclist? Should we just stop using roads that were made for horses? Your logic is flawed.

If you are going to bike on a narrow road don't be surprised when your slower traffic disrupts others. You are causing unsafe conditions for everyone involved. That doesn't give the people the right to physically assault you, but you shouldn't be surprised if they yell at you.
 
2014-06-13 12:07:06 PM

hasty ambush: InterruptingQuirk: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Ditto. I actually had someone lean out of their vehicle from the passenger side and punch me in the back when I was riding.

Well were you riding where you should not be? Perhaps on road built for adult vehicles and you were impeding the flow of traffic.


You mean on the right side of the far right lane, where I am legally supposed to be?

"Adult vehicles". Spoken like a true 'Murican bike hater.
 
2014-06-13 12:07:52 PM

Elliot8654: ikanreed: Elliot8654: Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?

This is America.

Meaning?
Oh, that cars rule, and bikes need to get out of the way or get run over?


forums.watchuseek.com
 
2014-06-13 12:09:32 PM
Ctrl+F for "shocked"=0 hits, subby.
 
2014-06-13 12:14:32 PM

Elliot8654: mizchief: Elliot8654: InterruptingQuirk: I'm guessing it stems from events like this:

What's awful is, stuff like that actually happens. I have had a circle K cup half full of slurpee stuff thrown at me just for riding a bike.

Also, this:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3472888.shtml?cat=500#.U5sQ8oZ7R8 E

Try getting the fark out of the way when faster vehicles approach.

Or, ya know, we all follow the laws of the road and get along.

That's always an option, right?


I DGAF what the law says. Like you could really read a licence plate while being hurled into a ditch.
 
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