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(Investors Business Daily)   Spare us the phony lamentations about how Republicans are the extremists   (news.investors.com ) divider line 267
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2014-06-13 08:09:46 AM  
What most of these folks consider "Liberal" positions are what Republicans ran on in the 90s.

Yes, it's the fault of the dirty, dirty, Democrats.

When you are faced with choices of making public and foreign policy that are workable and pie-in-the-sky tax breaks, industry subsidization, and bombing the sh*t out of anyone who looks at us cockeyed, and jailing people at random, I suppose you could call this a shift towards "Liberalism" and "extremism." This is an example of push-pulling the discussion away from truly liberal policies, and then branding anyone who wants workable solutions to woes that we have. Pointing fingers at the folks who want a working government that is responsive and useful as "Liberal" doesn't make anyone a fire-breathing Socialist, it just means that you are hoping that the conversation is dragged through the muck to candidates who are entirely in your pocket, and it's not like Investors has any financial interest in keeping the conversation well and away from income disparity and more locally based economy...
 
2014-06-13 08:32:18 AM  
Ahahahahahahaha

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha
 
2014-06-13 08:36:43 AM  
Well, that was dumb.
 
2014-06-13 08:50:45 AM  
Well this will certainly get the herbal teabagger's attention.  They're not just going to stand by while someone provides factual evidence of their extremism.
 
2014-06-13 08:53:43 AM  
HELLO...hello...hello...hellno....helllllo
 
2014-06-13 08:57:27 AM  
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2014-06-13 09:00:04 AM  
NO YOU!!!!!
 
2014-06-13 09:01:59 AM  
American Conservative Union rankings show the average Republican senator cast conservative votes 75% of the time in 1990 and 77.8% in 2012.
In contrast, Democrats voted liberal an average 90% of the time in 2012, according to the Americans for Democratic Action tally, well up from 72% in 1990


On the other side, is perhaps your conservative has moved so far right that even your own party can't stomach it anymore.
 
2014-06-13 09:02:54 AM  

EvilEgg: American Conservative Union rankings show the average Republican senator cast conservative votes 75% of the time in 1990 and 77.8% in 2012.
In contrast, Democrats voted liberal an average 90% of the time in 2012, according to the Americans for Democratic Action tally, well up from 72% in 1990

On the other side, is perhaps your conservative has moved so far right that even your own party can't stomach it anymore.


Perhaps what the American Conservative Union considers "liberal" and "conservative" changed over time.
 
2014-06-13 09:12:30 AM  
I'm going to call the Pew Study balderdash.  Yes, balderdash.

The GOP of today is nothing like the GOP of 30 years ago.  Today's GOP is for a larger and more intrusive government, meddling with individual liberty, and foisting their religious views on morality on the rest of the citizens.  Smaller government and personal responsibility my ass.
 
2014-06-13 09:16:39 AM  
Hitler was a Liberal.
Lincoln was a Republican.

Check and Mate libtards.
 
2014-06-13 09:17:07 AM  
There's nothing even slightly extreme about Democrats.. any of them.  Most are pretty milquetoast, and few ever push to change anything.
 
2014-06-13 09:19:16 AM  
Investors.com?

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These are the same people who said Stephen Hawking would have died if he'd between born into the UK health system, and it's only alive because he was lucky enough to be born in the USA. (Hawking is from the UK, and has lived there his whole life.)
 
2014-06-13 09:19:41 AM  
Insanity knows no bounds for proof read the article.
 
2014-06-13 09:19:56 AM  
Identifying as a liberal is considered a fringe position, huh?
 
2014-06-13 09:20:08 AM  
Well that was hilarious. You mean Reagan wouldn't have been called a RINO for his Amnesty program and having to raise taxes?
 
2014-06-13 09:20:14 AM  

hubiestubert: What most of these folks consider "Liberal" positions are what Republicans ran on in the 90s.

Yes, it's the fault of the dirty, dirty, Democrats.

When you are faced with choices of making public and foreign policy that are workable and pie-in-the-sky tax breaks, industry subsidization, and bombing the sh*t out of anyone who looks at us cockeyed, and jailing people at random, I suppose you could call this a shift towards "Liberalism" and "extremism." This is an example of push-pulling the discussion away from truly liberal policies, and then branding anyone who wants workable solutions to woes that we have. Pointing fingers at the folks who want a working government that is responsive and useful as "Liberal" doesn't make anyone a fire-breathing Socialist, it just means that you are hoping that the conversation is dragged through the muck to candidates who are entirely in your pocket, and it's not like Investors has any financial interest in keeping the conversation well and away from income disparity and more locally based economy...


Okay, we're done here. Well put as usual, Coherent Sane Person.
 
2014-06-13 09:21:38 AM  
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2014-06-13 09:21:46 AM  
"Conservatives ran screaming to the right as far as they could go, and to their horror they looked back and saw that the Democrats were all the way over there ... on the LEFT!  Such extremists!"
 
2014-06-13 09:22:07 AM  
Wow, that's some serious projection.
 
2014-06-13 09:22:11 AM  
The whole little rant hinged on the idea that "Liberal" positions by default are extreme and consistently voting for them is extreme. So, for example that article hinges on the idea that Food stamps = extreme politics, whereas deep tax cuts for the wealthy = centrist.

I mean Investors daily is generally terrible, but yeesh.
 
2014-06-13 09:22:19 AM  

Alphax: There's nothing even slightly extreme about Democrats.. any of them.  Most are pretty milquetoast, and few ever push to change anything.


What do you expect? The party is a center-right political party, with a few members on the left. When even your left wing party is to the right of the conservatives in most other countries outside some radical places in the Middle East and Africa, it may say more about the country than everyone else.'s countries.
 
2014-06-13 09:22:20 AM  

doublesecretprobation: NO YOU!!!!!


Summarized beautifully
 
2014-06-13 09:22:56 AM  
This is nice and simple for the derps out there.

Want to know if some group is becoming more extreme? Look at the past 20 years and see if their platform has changed or become more rigid. I'm pretty sure the dems are fighting for the same shiat they have been fighting or over the last 20 years. On the other hand, which group went from "hey, we want lower taxes and spending" to " let's kill the debt ceiling and force a default"?

Lucky LaRue: Well this will certainly get the herbal teabagger's attention.  They're not just going to stand by while someone provides factual evidence of their extremism.


Truly a hard hitting investigation there.
 
2014-06-13 09:23:24 AM  
Allow me to summarize:

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2014-06-13 09:23:54 AM  

Alphax: There's nothing even slightly extreme about Democrats.. any of them.  Most are pretty milquetoast, and few ever push to change anything.


Butbutbutbut they're gonna take your guns!  At gunpoint!  And force you to gay-marry a turtle!  And ban Jebus and replace the Ten Commandments with, like, a comic book or something!
 
2014-06-13 09:24:18 AM  
I cannot argue with the author's premise. The idea that rich people should not pay an effective tax rate substantially lower than poor people, the idea that individuals suffering same-sex attraction should be accommodated rather than shunned and imprisoned, the idea that the laws of the United States of America are not based directly upon the Bible and the idea that sick individuals who are too poor to afford what the free market has decided is the correct cost for healthcare should not simply be allowed to die are new, radical and extreme ideas that the Democrats are attempting to force upon society.
 
2014-06-13 09:24:51 AM  
Why did I read the comments?

President Reagan was trying (successfully, of course) to oust the communist dictatorship in Nicaragua by helping the freedom fighters (Contras). This was a noble endeavor. Unless, of course, you are a communist yourself. In summary, Iran-Contra was nothing. Iran-Contra was supposed to be about an arms for hostages trade. That doesn't even compare to Obama's trading of five top Taliban generals for an American traitor.
 
2014-06-13 09:25:04 AM  
Case in point: American Conservative Union rankings show the average Republican senator cast conservative votes 75% of the time in 1990 and 77.8% in 2012.

In 1990 "cast conservative votes" meant voting to go to war in Iraq, and "no new taxes". In 2012 it means vote to shut down the govenrment, hold the economy hostage, and vote to do the exact opposite of whatever the democrats want to do.

In contrast, Democrats voted liberal an average 90% of the time in 2012, according to the Americans for Democratic Action tally, well up from 72% in 1990.

in 1990 voting liberal was to vote against the Iraq war. In 2012 it means when a democrat votes for anything.


Trends in House votes were identical.

oh well that settles it then.
 
2014-06-13 09:25:40 AM  

incendi: Well, that was dumb.

 
2014-06-13 09:25:59 AM  
irritable bowels daily
 
2014-06-13 09:27:02 AM  

Epic Fap Session: Identifying as a liberal is considered a fringe position, huh?


Liberal today means, "accepts facts as facts."
 
2014-06-13 09:27:18 AM  
Voting consistently liberal on SOCIAL issues has farkall to do with big government, you twit!
 
2014-06-13 09:27:41 AM  

IHateHipHop: Why did I read the comments?

President Reagan was trying (successfully, of course) to oust the communist dictatorship in Nicaragua by helping the freedom fighters (Contras). This was a noble endeavor. Unless, of course, you are a communist yourself. In summary, Iran-Contra was nothing. Iran-Contra was supposed to be about an arms for hostages trade. That doesn't even compare to Obama's trading of five top Taliban generals for an American traitor.


Republicans HATE free elections, if the results aren't to their liking.
 
2014-06-13 09:28:07 AM  

EvilEgg: American Conservative Union rankings show the average Republican senator cast conservative votes 75% of the time in 1990 and 77.8% in 2012.
In contrast, Democrats voted liberal an average 90% of the time in 2012, according to the Americans for Democratic Action tally, well up from 72% in 1990

On the other side, is perhaps your conservative has moved so far right that even your own party can't stomach it anymore.


I think more importantly, the country as a whole has become more liberal (for certain definitions of the word) with respect to gay rights, pot legalization, and immigration, and thus more aligned with Democrats on these issues. I wouldn't make the leap to say Congress is completely out of touch with their constituents - there is a lot of gerrymandering to account for, and even aside from that there's the tendency of liberals to gravitate towards cities where their votes get diluted - but they're definitely out of touch with the nation as a whole.
 
2014-06-13 09:28:17 AM  
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2014-06-13 09:29:00 AM  

FnkyTwn: Hitler was a Liberal.
Lincoln was a Republican.

Check and Mate libtards.


And Jesus was a liberal.  Right back atcha brah.
 
2014-06-13 09:29:23 AM  

KeatingFive: Epic Fap Session: Identifying as a liberal is considered a fringe position, huh?

Liberal today means, "accepts facts as facts."


And "accept gays/women/minority races as people."
 
2014-06-13 09:30:02 AM  
when asked whether they'd prefer a bigger government and more services or a smaller government and fewer services, 61% of the public say they want a smaller government. But 59% of Democrats want a bigger government.

yup. no dishonesty in this article at all.
 
2014-06-13 09:30:13 AM  
For the last 5 years, the Republican agenda has been "slash and burn all social programs and regulatory agencies so we can give rich people tax breaks" the Democratic agenda has been "no, we don't want to gut social programs, maybe we should raise taxes on rich people a couple percent" and the moderate compromise position has been "maybe we should only cut social programs a little."

There are plently of legitimate criticism of the Democrats, but when your main policy thrust has been to preserve the status quo because you feel the alternative is worse, that's pretty much the opposite of "extremism." You might even say it's "conservative."
 
2014-06-13 09:30:17 AM  
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2014-06-13 09:31:59 AM  
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2014-06-13 09:34:47 AM  
I don't understand what this has to do with my investments.
 
2014-06-13 09:34:49 AM  
First sentence of TFA:  A Pew study finds the country more polarized than ever, and naturally Republicans are catching the blame. Truth is, it's Democrats who've lurched to extremes.

Funny how the 'A study finds <X>. Truth is, <opposite of X>' template can encapsulate so much conservative "thought".
 
2014-06-13 09:36:25 AM  

James!: I don't understand what this has to do with my investments.


democrat Liberals are going to take them away from you because of the new law that goes into effect on July 1st [Devastating].
 
2014-06-13 09:39:13 AM  
"Spare us the phony lamentations"...


What "Us" may look like....

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2014-06-13 09:39:19 AM  
If you've ever wanted to know how to lie with numbers, TFA is a pretty good example.
 
2014-06-13 09:40:33 AM  

physt: That's some pretty ferocious spin right there...

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Okay, now I see only green and black, no red or yellow.

I wonder if it's the difference in monitors (iPhone earlier, laptop now).
 
2014-06-13 09:40:36 AM  
Liberals have gone so far to the left they've gone full circle and adopted the far right Heritage Foundation's healthcare plan as their signature legislation.

Republicans opposed it only because they realized this and tried to pull our liberal friends back from the brink of extremism, but of course libs wouldn't listen.

Game, set, match, libtubbos.
 
2014-06-13 09:40:58 AM  
Nice try.  This false equivalency again shows as Republicans want to stop looking like the American Taliban.
 
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