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(Salon)   David Brat, the man who vanquished Eric Cantor, is backed by shadowy Ayn Rand loving billionaires   (salon.com ) divider line
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2014-06-13 12:44:12 PM  

walktoanarcade: Ayn Rand was a coont who wanted everyone to be as miserable as she.

(Yes, she. Proper grammar looks wrong sometimes, huh?)

So if you want friends who rationalize callousness and stinginess, have at them. They're easy to find as they plaster helpful bumper stickers to identify them. As if they voluntarily complied in a country-wide tracking program. ;)


Proper grammar looks right if you know grammar, though you could have written the sentence in a way that didn't raise any questions. The downside is there wouldn't be as much opportunity for smugness.

"...as miserable as she was." would have worked just fine.
 
2014-06-13 12:44:33 PM  

MJMaloney187: I suppose you could say opinions vary. Would your opinion be different if Rand randomly capitalized words and omitted Oxford commas?


When I am trying to sell you this in the form of a book, I will hire an editor to fix up my worthless schlock just like Ayn.
 
2014-06-13 12:44:56 PM  

KhanAidan: As much as it pains me to admit, he does have a doctorate in economics from American University.


Son of a beeyotch, you're right...

The first few bios I read on the guy didn't mention a doctorate.
 
2014-06-13 12:47:14 PM  

HighZoolander: walktoanarcade: Ayn Rand was a coont who wanted everyone to be as miserable as she.

Proper grammar looks right if you know grammar, though you could have written the sentence in a way that didn't raise any questions. The downside is there wouldn't be as much opportunity for smugness.


STOP RAGGING ON MY GRANDMA!

malialitman.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-13 12:49:53 PM  

MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are masterpieces. But if you want to understand where Ayn Rand was coming from, you have to read We The Living. I suspect most people who rip on Ayn Rand are just going with the crowd. I can't imagine someone slogging through 1000+ pages of her work and walking away hateful. That doesn't make any sense.


Ayn Rand died on Welfare

Was it ishkur or comalitej who wrote the great breakdown of Randian philosophy?
 
2014-06-13 12:55:03 PM  

lockers: MJMaloney187: I suppose you could say opinions vary. Would your opinion be different if Rand randomly capitalized words and omitted Oxford commas?

When I am trying to sell you this in the form of a book, I will hire an editor to fix up my worthless schlock just like Ayn.


So you don't do volunteer work, huh? I generally don't either, but I have a thing for simpletons,  so here.  More than 7 million copies of Atlas Shrugged have been sold since its publication.
 
2014-06-13 12:58:42 PM  

thehobbes: MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are masterpieces. But if you want to understand where Ayn Rand was coming from, you have to read We The Living. I suspect most people who rip on Ayn Rand are just going with the crowd. I can't imagine someone slogging through 1000+ pages of her work and walking away hateful. That doesn't make any sense.

Ayn Rand died on Welfare

Was it ishkur or comalitej who wrote the great breakdown of Randian philosophy?


Oxygen is welfare. I don't know anything about the Randian philosophy (except what was presented to me through her characters), so I can't answer your question. I liked her books and I think I'm a better, more well-rounded reader for having read them.
 
2014-06-13 01:02:27 PM  

MJMaloney187: thehobbes: MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are masterpieces. But if you want to understand where Ayn Rand was coming from, you have to read We The Living. I suspect most people who rip on Ayn Rand are just going with the crowd. I can't imagine someone slogging through 1000+ pages of her work and walking away hateful. That doesn't make any sense.

Ayn Rand died on Welfare

Was it ishkur or comalitej who wrote the great breakdown of Randian philosophy?

Oxygen is welfare. I don't know anything about the Randian philosophy (except what was presented to me through her characters), so I can't answer your question. I liked her books and I think I'm a better, more well-rounded reader for having read them.


In a nutshell: Grab what you can; might makes right. The poor deserve no consideration or pity. The wealthy are the pillars holding up society.
 
2014-06-13 01:03:20 PM  

walktoanarcade: Ayn Rand was a coont who wanted everyone to be as miserable as she.

(Yes, she. Proper grammar looks wrong sometimes, huh?)


This page disagrees with your odd grammar.
 
2014-06-13 01:10:05 PM  
What a shadowy Republican might look like:

37.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-13 01:12:46 PM  

Delta1212: Noam Chimpsky: The Democrats are in-con-solable about losing Cantor.

You keep using that word


Apparently his new thing is to suggest that the Democrats are the real power behind the Republicans. It's kind of sad, really.
 
2014-06-13 01:14:39 PM  

MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are masterpieces.


Can I buy pot from you?
 
2014-06-13 01:15:59 PM  
You mean the ones he skipped meetings with and didn't take any money from?

I don't think he is a 'Bagger as the 'Baggers want to be affiliated with him.
 
2014-06-13 01:17:38 PM  
MJMaloney187:  So you don't do volunteer work, huh? I generally don't either, but I have a thing for simpletons,  so here.  More than 7 million copies of Atlas Shrugged have been sold since its publication.

Yawn.

"Who Moved My Cheese" sold 26 million copies.

"The Happy Hooker" sold 20 million copies.

Hell, even "The Poky Little Puppy" sold over twice as many copies as "Atlas Shrugged."

Personally, I find it heartwarming that the garbage Rand wrote has seen such little intellectual purchase.
 
2014-06-13 01:21:27 PM  

MJMaloney187: thehobbes: MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are masterpieces. But if you want to understand where Ayn Rand was coming from, you have to read We The Living. I suspect most people who rip on Ayn Rand are just going with the crowd. I can't imagine someone slogging through 1000+ pages of her work and walking away hateful. That doesn't make any sense.

Ayn Rand died on Welfare

Was it ishkur or comalitej who wrote the great breakdown of Randian philosophy?

Oxygen is welfare. I don't know anything about the Randian philosophy (except what was presented to me through her characters), so I can't answer your question. I liked her books and I think I'm a better, more well-rounded reader for having read them.


How can you read Ayn Rand novels and say you know nothing about her philosophy? If you really got what was presented "through her characters" as you put it, then you should know her philosophy quite well. It's presented in a very ham-handed fashion in her books, which is one of the reasons they suck.

lockers:
When I am trying to sell you this in the form of a book, I will hire an editor to fix up my worthless schlock just like Ayn.

Her books aren't worthless. They have negative value. They've helped many an ordinary person become more of a selfish asshole than they might have become on their own.
 
2014-06-13 01:26:10 PM  

Blathering Idjut: Hell, even "The Poky Little Puppy" sold over twice as many copies as "Atlas Shrugged."


And a measure of faith in humanity was restored, and there was much rejoicing.

/thanks for the new favorite factoid!

jillsbooks.files.wordpress.com

You'll never go Galt on me, will ya little guy? *earscratch*
 
2014-06-13 01:36:13 PM  

Blathering Idjut: Personally, I find it heartwarming that the garbage Rand wrote has seen such little intellectual purchase.


I remember in one of my ethics classes at college, one of the students asked "Will will be learning about Randian objectivism?" or something along those lines. The professor responded with "This is a class on ethics, so no. Greed is good is not an ethical philosophy, its an excuse for selfishness."
 
2014-06-13 01:41:52 PM  

Zik-Zak: DjangoStonereaver: "There are two novels that can transform a bookish 14-year-kld's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish daydream that can lead to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood in which large chunks of the day are spent inventing ways to make real life more like a fantasy novel. The other is a book about orcs."

I remember leaving this gem on an Audible "recommendation" of Atlas Shrugged on my Facebook page. Wow, do Randians get easily hurt.


Well, nearly all of Rand's major novels are her superheroes biatching and complaining about other people.
 
2014-06-13 01:45:43 PM  
img.fark.net

Just don't let any Darkies or Poors get their hands on any of it, right Ayn?
 
2014-06-13 01:47:13 PM  

ikanreed: DirkValentine: I'm not sure what you're saying.

I've always thought.

That.

There may be enough, per point, per issue, per whatever, to just follow through with something other than a bulleted list.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

The article didn't take the form of a damn list.  Each paragraph is divided on natural lines as the subject shifts towards the core thesis of the article.  In other words, your complaint is just petty.


Hey, maybe I'm feeling petty today.   You are sitting here critiquing me, so i guess  we can just sit in the petty corner.
 
2014-06-13 01:50:42 PM  

patrick767: walktoanarcade: Ayn Rand was a coont who wanted everyone to be as miserable as she.

(Yes, she. Proper grammar looks wrong sometimes, huh?)

This page disagrees with your odd grammar.


Not to defend anyone's grandma, but that page also refers to a following verb as a following noun, so...
 
2014-06-13 02:08:16 PM  

Snarfangel: What a shadowy Republican might look like:

[37.media.tumblr.com image 500x486]


Elephant duck?
 
2014-06-13 02:19:06 PM  
The fun part is watching the heads of progressive libtards explode....
 
2014-06-13 02:21:28 PM  

LordZorch: The fun part is watching the heads of progressive libtards explode....


And the award for non sequitur goes to....
 
2014-06-13 02:31:10 PM  

patrick767: walktoanarcade: Ayn Rand was a coont who wanted everyone to be as miserable as she.

(Yes, she. Proper grammar looks wrong sometimes, huh?)

This page disagrees with your odd grammar.


As wrong as walktoanarcade is about, well, pretty much everything when it comes to politics, he is correct in this case. The page you link to is incomplete - the object form is common in informal use, but use of the nominative case is preferred in more formal communication, regardless of the presence or absence of the following verb.
 Choosing Cases after Linking Verbs and after But, Than, and As

When the personal pronoun follows except, but, than, or as, you've got an argument on your hands. Traditionally, these words have been regarded as conjunctions and the personal pronoun that follows has been regarded as the subject of a clause (which might not be completed). Thus "No one could be as happy as I." (If you provide the entire mechanism of the clause - "as I [am]" - you see the justification for the subject form.) The same goes for these other conjunctions: "Whom were you expecting? who else but he?" "My father is still taller than she" [than she is].

Many grammarians have argued, however, that these words are often used as prepositions, not conjunctions (and have been used that way for centuries by many good writers). In a structure such as "My mother is a lot like her," we have no trouble recognizing that "like" is acting as a preposition and we need the object form of the pronoun after it. Why, then, can't we use "than" and "but" as prepositions in sentences such as "Dad's a lot taller than him" and "No one in this class has done the homework but me"? Such usage is now widely regarded as acceptable in all but the most formal writing. The same argument is sometimes used for the object form after as - "The coach is not as smart as me" - but this argument does not enjoy the cogency of using the object form after but and than.


/who cares? Grammar Nazi cares
 
2014-06-13 02:32:40 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Blathering Idjut: Hell, even "The Poky Little Puppy" sold over twice as many copies as "Atlas Shrugged."

And a measure of faith in humanity was restored, and there was much rejoicing.

/thanks for the new favorite factoid!

[jillsbooks.files.wordpress.com image 414x500]

You'll never go Galt on me, will ya little guy? *earscratch*


I think you mean fact. A factoid generally means a fabricated "fact"..
 
2014-06-13 02:33:46 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: All candidates are backed by shadowy billionaires, though to be fair his campaign spending didn't exactly demonstrate that. And why would this be scary? He destroyed a senior Republican representative and reduced his state's seniority to zero. Nobody is going to listen to him, he is powerless. And now, so is Eric Cantor.


Cantor was getting "uppity" and acting like it was HIS job to decide how to vote and what was best for the country.   The Koch brothers put out a hit on him to remind all of their other "employees" how easily such a thing can be done to even those most powerful and secure of them.   I guarantee you the message was received loud and clear
 
2014-06-13 02:36:37 PM  

Candy Colored Clown: UrukHaiGuyz: Blathering Idjut: Hell, even "The Poky Little Puppy" sold over twice as many copies as "Atlas Shrugged."

And a measure of faith in humanity was restored, and there was much rejoicing.

/thanks for the new favorite factoid!

[jillsbooks.files.wordpress.com image 414x500]

You'll never go Galt on me, will ya little guy? *earscratch*

I think you mean fact. A factoid generally means a fabricated "fact"..


Nonsense, a "factoid" is just a teeny tiny little fact - a snack sized fact, if you will
 
2014-06-13 02:37:12 PM  

Candy Colored Clown: UrukHaiGuyz: Blathering Idjut: Hell, even "The Poky Little Puppy" sold over twice as many copies as "Atlas Shrugged."

And a measure of faith in humanity was restored, and there was much rejoicing.

/thanks for the new favorite factoid!

[jillsbooks.files.wordpress.com image 414x500]

You'll never go Galt on me, will ya little guy? *earscratch*

I think you mean fact. A factoid generally means a fabricated "fact"..


Factoid:  a briefly stated and usually trivial fact

I'm using the second definition.
 
2014-06-13 02:42:56 PM  

Garet Garrett: So "dark money" is code for "no actual money"?

Let me get this straight:  this was a victory for the millioniares and billioniaires on the right like the Koch Bros. because somebody who shares some of their views had made a grant to a university that enabled it to hire Brat as a professor, who spent less money on his entire campaign than Kantor did at steak houses, and whose number 1 donor was an auto body shop.

9/11 truthers have more going for them.


LOL - this post is true on so many levels.  The guy spent no money on his campaign.  He had no money.  Yet, "shadowy billionaires" funded him to victory.  ROTFLMAO @ liberals
 
2014-06-13 02:45:52 PM  

SunsetLament: Garet Garrett: So "dark money" is code for "no actual money"?

Let me get this straight:  this was a victory for the millioniares and billioniaires on the right like the Koch Bros. because somebody who shares some of their views had made a grant to a university that enabled it to hire Brat as a professor, who spent less money on his entire campaign than Kantor did at steak houses, and whose number 1 donor was an auto body shop.

9/11 truthers have more going for them.

LOL - this post is true on so many levels.  The guy spent no money on his campaign.  He had no money.  Yet, "shadowy billionaires" funded him to victory.  ROTFLMAO @ liberals


You're pretty damn smug for someone who clearly hasn't RTA or the thread. Hint: the help he received was prior to the campaign.
 
Bf+
2014-06-13 03:10:38 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: LordZorch: The fun part is watching the heads of progressive libtards explode....

And the award for non sequitur goes to....



Go easy on the guy.  He just wants to be included and I don't think English is his first language.
 
Bf+
2014-06-13 03:12:01 PM  

ikanreed: DirkValentine: that

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more

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Sorry, good writing doesn't actually entail every paragraph be 5 sentences.  Even in formal writing abrupt subject changes necessitate new paragraphs.  This ain't 8th grade English class.  Chill.


...and now we know Thom Hartmann's Fark handle.
 
2014-06-13 03:23:15 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: SunsetLament: Garet Garrett: So "dark money" is code for "no actual money"?

Let me get this straight:  this was a victory for the millioniares and billioniaires on the right like the Koch Bros. because somebody who shares some of their views had made a grant to a university that enabled it to hire Brat as a professor, who spent less money on his entire campaign than Kantor did at steak houses, and whose number 1 donor was an auto body shop.

9/11 truthers have more going for them.

LOL - this post is true on so many levels.  The guy spent no money on his campaign.  He had no money.  Yet, "shadowy billionaires" funded him to victory.  ROTFLMAO @ liberals

You're pretty damn smug for someone who clearly hasn't RTA or the thread. Hint: the help he received was prior to the campaign.


Oh, I read the article.  But the premise is so stupid that I find it hard to believe Salon, a internet-zine that actually tries to pretend it's a real news magazine, would publish it.  In order to believe what the article wants you to believe, you need to accept as fact that ...

1.  The Koch Brothers (and other "shadowy" figures - code words for "we have no idea who they are, but they must be out there") funded college economics departments to get right-leaning economics professors into jobs, and

2.  One of these economics professors was Brat, and

3.  Brat decided to run for Congress yet had absolutely no money or support system, and

4.  These shadowy billionaires, who were perfectly willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to ensure Brat could teach Econ 101 at a podunk college are completely unwilling to spend a similar amount of money to put Brat in the Congress (where they presumably control him).  In fact, they wouldn't even provide him with a nominal amount of support, through political advertising, in order to boost his credibility as an economics professor.

Bullet point #1 is very believable.  Bullet point #4 doesn't pass the laugh test.
 
2014-06-13 03:28:29 PM  

SunsetLament: These shadowy billionaires, who were perfectly willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to ensure Brat could teach Econ 101 at a podunk college are completely unwilling to spend a similar amount of money to put Brat in the Congress (where they presumably control him).  In fact, they wouldn't even provide him with a nominal amount of support, through political advertising, in order to boost his credibility as an economics professor.


I don't think anyone is claiming that the Kochs, Allison, Cato, etc. attempted to influence the campaign itself, but they are primarily responsible for the tiny shred of intellectual credibility that gave Brat a shot at the seat in the first place.

It's more laughing at the fact that Libertarians can't get by on the merit of their ideas, and so are forced to attempt to legitimize their views by stocking faculties with these intellectual flyweights like a farking fish pond. It's sad and funny, and thus perfect for Fark.
 
2014-06-13 03:28:38 PM  

SunsetLament: Garet Garrett: So "dark money" is code for "no actual money"?

Let me get this straight:  this was a victory for the millioniares and billioniaires on the right like the Koch Bros. because somebody who shares some of their views had made a grant to a university that enabled it to hire Brat as a professor, who spent less money on his entire campaign than Kantor did at steak houses, and whose number 1 donor was an auto body shop.

9/11 truthers have more going for them.

LOL - this post is true on so many levels.  The guy spent no money on his campaign.  He had no money.  Yet, "shadowy billionaires" funded him to victory.  ROTFLMAO @ liberals


Or you could actually read the article - either way.
 
2014-06-13 03:39:10 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [img.fark.net image 400x618]


Do you think Warren Buffet should unilaterally pay extra taxes?
 
2014-06-13 03:43:50 PM  
Like Obama and Clinton were not when they were young? Look at their real estate deals they received.

The funny thing is that Brat won because liberals in VA were not thinking of the big picture and voted for him.  There goes their immigration bill.


/I hate Cantor though and am glad he is gone.
 
2014-06-13 03:47:51 PM  
Ctrl-Alt-Del:
As wrong as walktoanarcade is about, well, pretty much everything when it comes to politics, he is correct in this case. The page you link to is incomplete - the object form is common in informal use, but use of the nominative case is preferred in more formal communication, regardless of the presence or absence of the following verb.
 Choosing Cases after Linking Verbs and after But, Than, and As
...
/who cares? Grammar Nazi cares


Alright, so Grammar Nazi has established that the object form is fine for informal communication and the nominative case is preferred for formal communication. That means when used in the proper context they are both correct. Calling one or the other wrong in all cases is, well, wrong. I call it a draw!

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-13 03:54:14 PM  

BMFPitt: TV's Vinnie: [img.fark.net image 400x618]

Do you think Warren Buffet should unilaterally pay extra taxes?


Neither case represents hypocrisy.  You petition to change the rules as you see fit but you play the game as it exists.  However, nne side clearly has the moral high ground while the other lacks humility  however.  One side is right and one side is wrong.  Neither arehypocrites.

If Buffet thinks he should be paying a tax rate lower than his secretary.  He is right regardless if he chooses not to donate his money to the Federal reserve voluntarily.

If Rand thinks fark the poor and let they die in streets if they can't make it on their own.  She is wrong and a horrible person whether or not she accepts social support.
 
2014-06-13 04:02:42 PM  

SunsetLament: UrukHaiGuyz: SunsetLament: Garet Garrett: So "dark money" is code for "no actual money"?

Let me get this straight:  this was a victory for the millioniares and billioniaires on the right like the Koch Bros. because somebody who shares some of their views had made a grant to a university that enabled it to hire Brat as a professor, who spent less money on his entire campaign than Kantor did at steak houses, and whose number 1 donor was an auto body shop.

9/11 truthers have more going for them.

LOL - this post is true on so many levels.  The guy spent no money on his campaign.  He had no money.  Yet, "shadowy billionaires" funded him to victory.  ROTFLMAO @ liberals

You're pretty damn smug for someone who clearly hasn't RTA or the thread. Hint: the help he received was prior to the campaign.

Oh, I read the article.  But the premise is so stupid that I find it hard to believe Salon, a internet-zine that actually tries to pretend it's a real news magazine, would publish it.  In order to believe what the article wants you to believe, you need to accept as fact that ...

1.  The Koch Brothers (and other "shadowy" figures - code words for "we have no idea who they are, but they must be out there") funded college economics departments to get right-leaning economics professors into jobs, and

2.  One of these economics professors was Brat, and

3.  Brat decided to run for Congress yet had absolutely no money or support system, and

4.  These shadowy billionaires, who were perfectly willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to ensure Brat could teach Econ 101 at a podunk college are completely unwilling to spend a similar amount of money to put Brat in the Congress (where they presumably control him).  In fact, they wouldn't even provide him with a nominal amount of support, through political advertising, in order to boost his credibility as an economics professor.

Bullet point #1 is very believable.  Bullet point #4 doesn't pass the laugh test.


HA! burn
 
2014-06-13 04:03:09 PM  

grumpfuff: Delta1212: Noam Chimpsky: The Democrats are in-con-solable about losing Cantor.

You keep using that word

Apparently his new thing is to suggest that the Democrats are the real power behind the Republicans. It's kind of sad, really.


Sad but true.
 
2014-06-13 04:04:19 PM  
What Ran loving Billionaires supported him? Oh, yeah, he won an endowed chair by one and worked for another. But guess what? the Koch Brothers supported Cantor, Sheldon Silver supported Cantor, in fact all the rich people on the right openly supported and funded Cantor. This reads like someone grasping so desperately at straws making a connection article that read like a the stuff put out by the Truther nutbags
 
2014-06-13 05:05:22 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [img.fark.net image 400x618]

Just don't let any Darkies or Poors get their hands on any of it, right Ayn?


She didn't write books denouncing social security. She wrote them to denounce looters and leaches. Either your being a wise guy because this is fark, or you're a savage racist that considers looters and leaches to be primarily darkies and poors.
 
2014-06-13 05:17:39 PM  

MJMaloney187: I don't know anything about the Randian philosophy (except what was presented to me through her characters), so I can't answer your question.


MJMaloney187: She didn't write books denouncing social security. She wrote them to denounce looters and leaches.


I lol'd.
 
2014-06-13 06:24:14 PM  

MJMaloney187: Oxygen is welfare.


MJMaloney187: Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead are masterpieces.


Two more gem to add to the ever-growing selection of tupidity from MJMaloney, to go alongside:

-Allen Wet and Ted "I will be Dead or in jail if Obama is re-elected", "I want to shoot Hillary Clinton" Nugent are national heroes

- "Obama is inspired by The Turner Diaries"

- "Bo  Bergdahl should have been left to rot in Afghanitan or get shot upon arrival on US soil"

And many more! Collect them all!
 
2014-06-13 06:25:31 PM  
And apparently my S key needs replacing...
 
2014-06-13 06:33:23 PM  

Truffle Kerfuffle: - "Obama is inspired by The Turner Diaries"


*blinkblink*
 
2014-06-13 06:42:09 PM  

grumpfuff: Truffle Kerfuffle: - "Obama is inspired by The Turner Diaries"

*blinkblink*


Kinda hard to make up something that particularly stupid, but then again, that was said by someone who thinks "slavery wan't all that bad as long as you didn't try to run away", so all bets are off.
 
2014-06-13 06:44:43 PM  

Truffle Kerfuffle: grumpfuff: Truffle Kerfuffle: - "Obama is inspired by The Turner Diaries"

*blinkblink*

Kinda hard to make up something that particularly stupid, but then again, that was said by someone who thinks "slavery wan't all that bad as long as you didn't try to run away", so all bets are off.


At least that one I've heard before.
 
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