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(ABC 4 Charleston)   Headline: 'SC prosecutor releases human trafficking plan'. Seems pretty bold to be just putting it out there like that   (abcnews4.com ) divider line
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2014-06-13 11:49:29 AM  
Not surprising at all since South Carolina is the birthplace of the Confederacy.
 
2014-06-13 12:42:06 PM  
that's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if pays off
content8.flixster.com
 
2014-06-13 12:43:13 PM  
Human trafficking is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with, but I can't figure out how I feel about the churches getting involved.  I mean, they understand it is evil, but they really don't understand it, nor are a lot of them capable of letting go of their assumptions in order to do so.  I've seen that shiat go on right in front of their stupid faces, and they didn't recognize what was happening, because it didn't look like the movies, where girls are chained to beds, which you have to admit, would probably not be a good way to attract customers.
 
2014-06-13 12:51:11 PM  
Hang on to your hats boys...

content.artofmanliness.com

Here we go again.

/Now seeking motivated high school seniors with a desire to secede.
 
2014-06-13 12:53:31 PM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: I can't figure out how I feel about the churches getting involved. I mean, they understand it is evil, but they really don't understand it, nor are a lot of them capable of letting go of their assumptions in order to do so.


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2014-06-13 01:04:03 PM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Human trafficking is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with, but I can't figure out how I feel about the churches getting involved.  I mean, they understand it is evil, but they really don't understand it, nor are a lot of them capable of letting go of their assumptions in order to do so.  I've seen that shiat go on right in front of their stupid faces, and they didn't recognize what was happening, because it didn't look like the movies, where girls are chained to beds, which you have to admit, would probably not be a good way to attract customers.


Churches (like people) are not perfect but I would remind you that both the abolitionist movement  and the civil rights movement got their starts in churches.    While some may favor an absolute ban on religion  in politics politics involves social issues and churches are also involved in social issues so there is going to be some mix.  They make take a stance on issues you disagree with but I am wiling to put up with that rather the government getting too heavily involved in regulating political and religious activity.


I would like us to devote more of the resources  we currently devote on putting stoners in jail (generally useless as they may be) and dedicate those resources to going after human traffickers/slavers.  To the extent that US Navy was used to run anti-slavery patrols off  the West African coast in the1800s I would like to a legal framework in place to use the US military to go after international human traffickers in a similar manner.

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2014-06-13 01:23:16 PM  
I'm not racist I'm anti-human.
 
jvl
2014-06-13 01:28:20 PM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Human trafficking is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with, but I can't figure out how I feel about the churches getting involved.  I mean, they understand it is evil, but they really don't understand it, nor are a lot of them capable of letting go of their assumptions in order to do so.  I've seen that shiat go on right in front of their stupid faces, and they didn't recognize what was happening, because it didn't look like the movies, where girls are chained to beds, which you have to admit, would probably not be a good way to attract customers.


You appear to be confusing human trafficking with slavery.

Human trafficking is giving/selling a ride to someone who is going to do something illegal. That covers big stuff like transporting a van full of illegals over the border through the desert, or organized crime importing willing prostitutes to a network of brothels; it also covers smaller stuff like driving an illegal alien to a job, or a willing prostitute to a job.
 
2014-06-13 02:08:40 PM  

jvl: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Human trafficking is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with, but I can't figure out how I feel about the churches getting involved.  I mean, they understand it is evil, but they really don't understand it, nor are a lot of them capable of letting go of their assumptions in order to do so.  I've seen that shiat go on right in front of their stupid faces, and they didn't recognize what was happening, because it didn't look like the movies, where girls are chained to beds, which you have to admit, would probably not be a good way to attract customers.

You appear to be confusing human trafficking with slavery.

Human trafficking is giving/selling a ride to someone who is going to do something illegal. That covers big stuff like transporting a van full of illegals over the border through the desert, or organized crime importing willing prostitutes to a network of brothels; it also covers smaller stuff like driving an illegal alien to a job, or a willing prostitute to a job.


Human trafficking is the acquisition of people by improper means such as force, fraud or deception, with the aim of exploiting them-Link

Human trafficking is for the purpose of:

Sexual slavery

Commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others

Forced labor

The extraction of organs or tissue

Surrogacy and ova removal

Providing a spouse in the context of forced marriage

Human trafficking is a form of modern-day slavery where people profit from the control and exploitation of others. As defined under U.S. federal law, victims of human trafficking include children involved in the sex trade, adults age 18 or over who are coerced or deceived into commercial sex acts, and anyone forced into different forms of "labor or services," Link
 
2014-06-13 02:15:49 PM  
My issue with 'releasing plans' (and that includes realistic movies) is that some nut, somewhere, is thinking "Hey, I can do that!"
 
2014-06-13 02:34:02 PM  
Crazy Idea, Make Hooking legal so the women can come forward without worrying about being prosecuted. Pimping and trafficking a death penalty.
 
2014-06-13 03:56:27 PM  
Words matter
Almost as much as syntax
 
2014-06-13 04:08:00 PM  

hasty ambush: I would like us to devote more of the resources we currently devote on putting stoners in jail (generally useless as they may be) and dedicate those resources to going after human traffickers/slavers. To the extent that US Navy was used to run anti-slavery patrols off the West African coast in the1800s I would like to a legal framework in place to use the US military to go after international human traffickers in a similar manner.


Reading this article, I couldn't help thinking that the new War on Human Trafficking is shaping up to be the modern day War on Drugs. There's a ton of confusion about what it is and isn't and intentional misinformation (like claiming that all porn stars and prostitutes are pushed into slavery, because no woman would ever choose that), there's a tremendous push for funds and equipment given to places where it's dubious that they've ever actually had a case of human trafficking, and lots of politicians and district attorneys looking to cash in on the new hysteria to make a big name for themselves with grand speeches and flashy busts of strip clubs in front of the news media, instead of giving the DOL and OSHA more funds to find all the violations of existing labor laws.

I totally agree that it's an underbelly that polite people have ignored for too long, but the way it's being tackled already, lots of legitimate but unpopular or less-respectable people are going to get caught up and have their lives ruined. Meanwhile real abusers who lawyer up properly are still going to be able to take advantage of naive young people who don't know the rights they have -- not in seedy back alleys, but everywhere.
 
2014-06-13 04:15:16 PM  

hasty ambush: Churches (like people) are not perfect but I would remind you that both the abolitionist movement and the civil rights movement got their starts in churches. While some may favor an absolute ban on religion in politics politics involves social issues and churches are also involved in social issues so there is going to be some mix. They make take a stance on issues you disagree with but I am wiling to put up with that rather the government getting too heavily involved in regulating political and religious activity.


Oh, and churches were also the primary force behind prohibition, and now there's MADD, is the church-supported modern day face of prohibition. Even more than drinking, churches almost universally condemn sex and lewdness, let alone promiscuity, so I can't help but think their involvement will only lead to an equal push for punishing prostitutes and strippers as pimps and traffickers. It seems like a bad idea that will lead to very bad laws and enforcement.
 
2014-06-13 04:54:44 PM  
Well the SC prosecutor has plenty of cover, given the U.S. Government is doing a ton of human trafficking of minors these day. Bringing them in, then sending them out to work illegally.
 
2014-06-13 08:00:04 PM  
That is a real huge problem if humans are still being trafficked through Charleston harbor.  Exactly how would you sneak a whole boat load of people pass customs nowadays.


/cracks whip, 'what's your name?'
'Kunta Keith'
cracks whip again, 'what's your name?'
'Toby Keith'
'Good, go sing country music on the football field.'
//I just like the image of Toby Keith being hit.
///That's how I like ya, Toby.
 
2014-06-13 09:01:14 PM  

stuffy: Crazy Idea, Make Hooking legal so the women can come forward without worrying about being prosecuted. Pimping and trafficking a death penalty.


May not be workable. Even some Western European countries are rethinking their liberal prostitution laws because of trafficking/slavery despite legalization.



Germany Rethinking on Legalized Prostitution

Europe Reconsiders Prostitution as Sex Trafficking Booms
 
2014-06-13 09:04:04 PM  

foxyshadis: hasty ambush: I would like us to devote more of the resources we currently devote on putting stoners in jail (generally useless as they may be) and dedicate those resources to going after human traffickers/slavers. To the extent that US Navy was used to run anti-slavery patrols off the West African coast in the1800s I would like to a legal framework in place to use the US military to go after international human traffickers in a similar manner.

Reading this article, I couldn't help thinking that the new War on Human Trafficking is shaping up to be the modern day War on Drugs. There's a ton of confusion about what it is and isn't and intentional misinformation (like claiming that all porn stars and prostitutes are pushed into slavery, because no woman would ever choose that), there's a tremendous push for funds and equipment given to places where it's dubious that they've ever actually had a case of human trafficking, and lots of politicians and district attorneys looking to cash in on the new hysteria to make a big name for themselves with grand speeches and flashy busts of strip clubs in front of the news media, instead of giving the DOL and OSHA more funds to find all the violations of existing labor laws.

I totally agree that it's an underbelly that polite people have ignored for too long, but the way it's being tackled already, lots of legitimate but unpopular or less-respectable people are going to get caught up and have their lives ruined. Meanwhile real abusers who lawyer up properly are still going to be able to take advantage of naive young people who don't know the rights they have -- not in seedy back alleys, but everywhere.


Try  lawyering up against a Special ops team or predator drone strike.(outside the US of course)
 
2014-06-13 09:08:33 PM  

foxyshadis: hasty ambush: Churches (like people) are not perfect but I would remind you that both the abolitionist movement and the civil rights movement got their starts in churches. While some may favor an absolute ban on religion in politics politics involves social issues and churches are also involved in social issues so there is going to be some mix. They make take a stance on issues you disagree with but I am wiling to put up with that rather the government getting too heavily involved in regulating political and religious activity.

Oh, and churches were also the primary force behind prohibition, and now there's MADD, is the church-supported modern day face of prohibition. Even more than drinking, churches almost universally condemn sex and lewdness, let alone promiscuity, so I can't help but think their involvement will only lead to an equal push for punishing prostitutes and strippers as pimps and traffickers. It seems like a bad idea that will lead to very bad laws and enforcement.


The again , in many cases , it is churches that offer help and sanctuary to the victims of human trafficking. Your brush is much to large.  I coudl point out feminist groups that as equally opposed to stripping, Hooters restaurant, or porn.  It was not religious groups that got playboys and pinups banished from the military.
 
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