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(The Citizen)   Always drive in the right lane except to pass. The left lane is for gunfights   (thecitizen.com) divider line 85
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2014-06-13 02:00:45 AM  

JosephFinn: Ivan the Tolerable: in many states (the sane one anyway), its actually the law; regardless of speed limits, slower traffic moves right.

Name one state where that is regardless of speed limits.  Seriously.  Name one state where, in the actual statute, it says that you have to be right of speeders.


Yeah, he's actually correct. In most states it's the flow of traffic, not the speed limit, that determines whether or not you're supposed to move right. So if you're going 55 in the left lane and everyone around you is going 70, you need to move right. If you're making a pass on the left at 70 when most traffic is going 65 and one car comes up behind you at 90, they can wait until it's safe for you to pull right.

Left lane laws are NOT meant to accommodate the one jerk driving way faster than everyone else. They're for keeping people going similar speeds grouped by lane.

http://money.msn.com/saving-money-tip s/post--slowpoke-laws-target-lef t -lane-plodders
 
2014-06-13 02:01:24 AM  
I know that if I ever did snap and open fire, it'd be because of someone going 45 in a 55 in the left lane.

/Maryland: Second only to Massachusetts for Awful Drivers
 
2014-06-13 02:04:37 AM  
ITT:  Lots of self-righteous people cheesed off that someone was driving in the left lane, however improperly, and very little outrage over idjits shooting at each other on the highway.
 
2014-06-13 02:06:32 AM  
"You drive on my ass, my foot's on the gas, and the express lane's your last, 'cuz I got a bad habit and it ain't going away..."
 
2014-06-13 02:06:58 AM  
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2014-06-13 02:11:32 AM  

chitownmike: Ivan the Tolerable: chitownmike: Ivan the Tolerable: JosephFinn: Ivan the Tolerable: in many states (the sane one anyway), its actually the law; regardless of speed limits, slower traffic moves right.

Name one state where that is regardless of speed limits.  Seriously.  Name one state where, in the actual statute, it says that you have to be right of speeders.

well, since the article is from georgia, i'll start with georgia. where it just got elevated from a moving violation to a full-blown misdemeanor for -not- moving over.
if you want to complete that list, there are at least 44-45 more states with similar laws; you move over. REGARDLESS of speed limit.
/in fact, i would challenge you to find one state with a law specifically mentioning the speed limit being a requirement for the left lane. because there isn't one. at all. its always relative speed.
//sorry, but you are just fundamentally, profoundly wrong on this one. i love to debate different perspectives, but here there really isn't any basis for challenging that. its pretty basic. learn and move on.

maximum speed limit applies to all lanes, why is that hard to understand

speeding is illegal. not moving over for faster traffic is illegal as well (often equally if not more so). why is that hard to understand?
/other people breaking the law is not an excuse for you to do so.

So then you agree that
"/in fact, i would challenge you to find one state with a law specifically mentioning the speed limit being a requirement for the left lane. because there isn't one. at all. its always relative speed."
Is a bullshiat statement?


not seeing where you are going with that, other than desperately trying to salvage something from a clearly losing argument. really. help me out here. how laws being worded in such a way as to require a yield for faster traffic, regardless of speed, have anything to do with your statement is beyond me.
/i am going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume you are either just tired or drunk, and invite you to go back and read the thread again and gain some clarity, before you embarrass yourself.
 
2014-06-13 02:20:14 AM  

Ivan the Tolerable: chitownmike: Ivan the Tolerable: chitownmike: Ivan the Tolerable: JosephFinn: Ivan the Tolerable: in many states (the sane one anyway), its actually the law; regardless of speed limits, slower traffic moves right.

Name one state where that is regardless of speed limits.  Seriously.  Name one state where, in the actual statute, it says that you have to be right of speeders.

well, since the article is from georgia, i'll start with georgia. where it just got elevated from a moving violation to a full-blown misdemeanor for -not- moving over.
if you want to complete that list, there are at least 44-45 more states with similar laws; you move over. REGARDLESS of speed limit.
/in fact, i would challenge you to find one state with a law specifically mentioning the speed limit being a requirement for the left lane. because there isn't one. at all. its always relative speed.
//sorry, but you are just fundamentally, profoundly wrong on this one. i love to debate different perspectives, but here there really isn't any basis for challenging that. its pretty basic. learn and move on.

maximum speed limit applies to all lanes, why is that hard to understand

speeding is illegal. not moving over for faster traffic is illegal as well (often equally if not more so). why is that hard to understand?
/other people breaking the law is not an excuse for you to do so.

So then you agree that
"/in fact, i would challenge you to find one state with a law specifically mentioning the speed limit being a requirement for the left lane. because there isn't one. at all. its always relative speed."
Is a bullshiat statement?

not seeing where you are going with that, other than desperately trying to salvage something from a clearly losing argument. really. help me out here. how laws being worded in such a way as to require a yield for faster traffic, regardless of speed, have anything to do with your statement is beyond me.
/i am going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume you are either just tired or drunk, and invite you to go back and read the thread again and gain some clarity, before you embarrass yourself.


So, do you think the speed limit applies to the left lane or not because you seem to be all over the board on that, or just trolling?
 
2014-06-13 02:22:08 AM  

timujin: Should have been following the flowchart:

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Depends on the state.  In some states, the left lane is the "passing lane".  In other states, the left lane is the "fast lane".  In the second group of states, it's fine to be in the left lane permanently, as long as you are moving faster than what traffic is in the other lanes (in any).
 
2014-06-13 02:25:06 AM  

Mikey1969:  I don't think a Toyota Camry has sped past ANYTHING, let alone another car.


A V6 Toyota Camry has a zero to sixty time of 5.7 seconds.
 
2014-06-13 02:27:56 AM  
You don't have a right to speed. You don't have a right to drive slower than traffic in the left lane.

When those collide, slow loses. Deal with it.
 
2014-06-13 02:35:03 AM  

chitownmike: So, do you think the speed limit applies to the left lane or not because you seem to be all over the board on that, or just trolling?


now you are just being either intentionally obtuse or trolling.
i can't say it any better than redmid17;
You don't have a right to speed. You don't have a right to drive slower than traffic in the left lane.
they are both true, they are in no way related or dependent on each other, and one does not somehow invalidate the other. deal with it.
 
2014-06-13 02:37:41 AM  
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2014-06-13 02:41:27 AM  

Ivan the Tolerable: chitownmike: So, do you think the speed limit applies to the left lane or not because you seem to be all over the board on that, or just trolling?

now you are just being either intentionally obtuse or trolling.
i can't say it any better than redmid17;
You don't have a right to speed. You don't have a right to drive slower than traffic in the left lane.
they are both true, they are in no way related or dependent on each other, and one does not somehow invalidate the other. deal with it.


And you have not said anything close to that this entire discussion
 
2014-06-13 03:10:40 AM  

Ivan the Tolerable: chitownmike: So, do you think the speed limit applies to the left lane or not because you seem to be all over the board on that, or just trolling?

now you are just being either intentionally obtuse or trolling.
i can't say it any better than redmid17;
You don't have a right to speed. You don't have a right to drive slower than traffic in the left lane.
they are both true, they are in no way related or dependent on each other, and one does not somehow invalidate the other. deal with it.


They are related. Get the fark out of the fast lane if you're moving slower. That rule is designed for safety, not your ego. The state prefers speeders to morons impeding the flow of traffic.
 
2014-06-13 03:17:58 AM  

Geotpf: timujin: Should have been following the flowchart:

[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

Depends on the state.  In some states, the left lane is the "passing lane".  In other states, the left lane is the "fast lane".  In the second group of states, it's fine to be in the left lane permanently, as long as you are moving faster than what traffic is in the other lanes (in any).


In California, the only requirement for the left lane is *drum roll* the speed limit.

Even though I drive on the right there's always a douchbagger riding my ass, so I go even slower to piss em off more.
 
2014-06-13 03:24:47 AM  

doofusgumby: Geotpf: timujin: Should have been following the flowchart:

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Depends on the state.  In some states, the left lane is the "passing lane".  In other states, the left lane is the "fast lane".  In the second group of states, it's fine to be in the left lane permanently, as long as you are moving faster than what traffic is in the other lanes (in any).

In California, the only requirement for the left lane is *drum roll* the speed limit.

Even though I drive on the right there's always a douchbagger riding my ass, so I go even slower to piss em off more.


In California they also require everyone to Democrat and throw rocks at independents. Oh wait, were we saying things that exist in our mind or real life?

Reread the California statute.
 
2014-06-13 03:55:56 AM  

doofusgumby: In California, the only requirement for the left lane is *drum roll* the speed limit.


um, no.
/what part of "Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits" did you not get?
//right there in the california code.
 
2014-06-13 03:59:07 AM  
Last time I had a gun in the car, I was half tempted to shoot 5 or 6 people in about 20 minutes. Now I leave the gun at home and just shoot Nazis in Wolfenstein.

/some folks just need killin
 
2014-06-13 07:27:49 AM  

wildcardjack: I always wondered about how the US wound up with left hand drive. You can't drive and shoot worth a damn, you need someone riding shotgun.


If you're left-handed you probably could.

/Lefty
 
2014-06-13 08:53:43 AM  

Geotpf: Mikey1969:  I don't think a Toyota Camry has sped past ANYTHING, let alone another car.

A V6 Toyota Camry has a zero to sixty time of 5.7 seconds.


V6? That's insane. OK, I take it back.

Gos2Slo: Last time I had a gun in the car, I was half tempted to shoot 5 or 6 people in about 20 minutes. Now I leave the gun at home and just shoot Nazis in Wolfenstein.

/some folks just need killin


Yeah, that's kind of a running joke I have. Sometimes the bullshiat I see, I wonder if it would actually be considered a public service to get some of these assholes off of the road. Around here, we don't have as many bad drivers as I saw in Az(Since we have half the population), but what we lack in quantity, we make up for in quality.
 
2014-06-13 09:42:54 AM  

JosephFinn: Name one state where, in the actual statute, it says that you have to be right of speeders.


Georgia. This year, actually.
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/government/2014-02-26/georgia-legi sl ation-targets-slow-poke-drivers-left-lane

Ivan the Tolerable: the camry i get as pretty common, but how many british luxury cars are really tooling around that particular part of redneckia?


Probably a ton, as Fayette county isn't exactly super redneck; it's full of upper-middle class yuppies who are too scared of black people to move to anywhere more fun in the metro.
 
2014-06-13 09:54:44 AM  

Tourney3p0: timujin: Should have been following the flowchart:

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Quit it.  You're going to confuse the Americans.


Just give 'em a roundabout. That'll do it
 
2014-06-13 10:15:30 AM  
In Minnesota, drivers are taught always to drive/cruise in the leftmost lane of a freeway, without any vehicles in the lanes to the right, preferably going below the speed limit.

Bonus points if you can have another Minnesotan also going below the speed limit in the right-hand lane, accomplishing the infamous "Minnesota Box In" manoeuvre.
 
2014-06-13 11:28:54 AM  
My non-cited assertion is highway deaths are caused by by asshats exceeding the speed limit, driving faster than traffic, distracted by whatever, or just assholes with a lead foot death wish. Not the car doing the posted limit in the left lane.


Your opinion is WRONG. Get to the right, please.
 
2014-06-13 11:36:44 AM  
The incident occurred in Fayette County, so I suspect it was a drug deal gone bad. It used to be a rather quiet place, but it's a crime-ridden shiathole now.
 
2014-06-13 12:20:49 PM  
Yes, you do have the right to speed, dickhead.
 
2014-06-13 12:47:31 PM  

cryinoutloud: JosephFinn: Oh god, here come the people claiming being in the left lane gives them carte blanche to speed.

Look, if you're in the left lane and not going at least 40 miles an hour over the speed limit, it's your own fault if you get run over.


I see you are from the Philly area too!
 
2014-06-13 01:15:16 PM  

Loreweaver: cryinoutloud: JosephFinn: Oh god, here come the people claiming being in the left lane gives them carte blanche to speed.

Look, if you're in the left lane and not going at least 40 miles an hour over the speed limit, it's your own fault if you get run over.

I see you are from the Philly area too!


PA...where trucks doing 40 mph are forced to stay in the left lane.
 
2014-06-13 02:42:47 PM  
Geotpf:

 In someALL states, the left lane is the "passing lane".  In other NOstate, the left lane is the "fast lane". It's NEVER fine to be in the left lane permanently,


/FTFY, moron.
//Stick with public transport.
 
2014-06-13 08:48:12 PM  

doofusgumby: My non-cited assertion is highway deaths are caused by by asshats exceeding the speed limit, driving faster than traffic, distracted by whatever, or just assholes with a lead foot death wish. Not the car doing the posted limit in the left lane.


As someone who regularly cheats death by driving in Greater Boston, I'd argue ANY driver distracted enough not to be able to avoid oncoming traffic from any direction, or not having the capacity to react properly to said traffic, is the dangerous driver.  Speed is immaterial to how unprepared someone is to handle the other people around them.  Not to mention, in my experience at least, the people I've met who swear they have carte blanche to drive in the left lane whenever the fark they want are usually not the most attuned to reality in general.

\then again, I also have that crazy idea that laws designed to deal with specific sources of distraction are pointless when a general law exists to cover any reckless driving of any kind
\\I know, weird, right?
 
2014-06-14 12:17:46 AM  

CitizenjaQ: Yeah, he's actually correct. In most states it's the flow of traffic, not the speed limit, that determines whether or not you're supposed to move right.


Up to the speed limit, of course.  People speeding don't enter into the conversation.  You do not have to move over for anyone who is going over the speed limit.
 
2014-06-14 12:22:21 AM  

Cheeseface: JosephFinn: Name one state where, in the actual statute, it says that you have to be right of speeders.

Georgia. This year, actually.
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/government/2014-02-26/georgia-legi sl ation-targets-slow-poke-drivers-left-lane


You might want to read the actual bill that passed and was signed.  It says nothing about moving over for speeders.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/display/20132014/HB/459
 
2014-06-14 12:57:50 AM  

JosephFinn: CitizenjaQ: Yeah, he's actually correct. In most states it's the flow of traffic, not the speed limit, that determines whether or not you're supposed to move right.

Up to the speed limit, of course.  People speeding don't enter into the conversation.  You do not have to move over for anyone who is going over the speed limit.


No most states specifically say speed or flow of traffic.
 
2014-06-14 01:00:49 AM  

JosephFinn: Cheeseface: JosephFinn: Name one state where, in the actual statute, it says that you have to be right of speeders.

Georgia. This year, actually.
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/government/2014-02-26/georgia-legi sl ation-targets-slow-poke-drivers-left-lane

You might want to read the actual bill that passed and was signed.  It says nothing about moving over for speeders.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/display/20132014/HB/459


(a)(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation.

I hate to say it, but normal and reasonable traffic pretty much always has people breaking the speed limit. If it didn't, the law wouldn't say that and cops would pull over everyone speeding. The law also says it's only for passing as well, minus circumstances where the road is down to one lane.
 
2014-06-14 10:32:20 AM  

Giltric: Loreweaver: cryinoutloud: JosephFinn: Oh god, here come the people claiming being in the left lane gives them carte blanche to speed.

Look, if you're in the left lane and not going at least 40 miles an hour over the speed limit, it's your own fault if you get run over.

I see you are from the Philly area too!

PA...where trucks doing 40 mph are forced to stay in the left lane.


I cant argue there .. PA is one messed up state. Depending on where you are, you run into situations where traffic is either always 20 under or 20 over the posted speed limit.
 
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