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(Pro Football Talk)   Seahawks sign key player from Vikings. This is not a repeat from 2013, or that other time in 2013, or 2012, or 2011, or 2010, or   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 37
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2014-06-13 06:53:49 AM  
Looks like Seattle gets to stick another feather in their StarCap.
 
2014-06-13 07:05:39 AM  
Williams and Allen were great for the Vikes for many years, but they were aging leaders on one of the worst defenses in the league and team history last year. I'm fine moving on without them. It is going to take one more year to turn over the roster (LBs, SS, RG) but I like where the Vikes are headed. I just hope Teddy shows something early while Peterson is still near-prime.
 
2014-06-13 07:22:41 AM  
And he has a history of failed drug tests. He will fit right in!!
 
2014-06-13 08:08:12 AM  
Good, cheap, one-year signing.  He'll join a rotation with some new rookies/second year players.  I expect Williams, Marsh, and Scruggs to become big names (barring injuries) this year.
 
2014-06-13 08:16:56 AM  
Seems like I never read the phrase "MN signs key player from...". If we ain't sending our best and brightest pro athletes to Boston, it's Seattle.
*Sigh*
 
2014-06-13 08:18:29 AM  

TsarTom: Seems like I never read the phrase "MN signs key player from...". If we ain't sending our best and brightest pro athletes to Boston, it's Seattle.
*Sigh*


Remember Steve Hutchinson?  That's karma, baby.
 
2014-06-13 08:20:50 AM  
the thing that really hurts is when they win the SB/World Series/NBA championship the very FARKING next year, and we go back to sub-500.
*Sigh*
 
2014-06-13 08:23:57 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Steve Hutchinson


Yeah.. I'll never forget that championship seas... oh wait. What were we talking about again?
 
2014-06-13 09:13:34 AM  
Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.
 
2014-06-13 09:35:02 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: TsarTom: Seems like I never read the phrase "MN signs key player from...". If we ain't sending our best and brightest pro athletes to Boston, it's Seattle.
*Sigh*

Remember Steve Hutchinson?  That's karma, baby.


I do. That was a bullshiat move by Minnesota.

/Vikings fan.
 
2014-06-13 09:39:49 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.


Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)
 
2014-06-13 09:46:54 AM  
 
2014-06-13 10:08:59 AM  
I'm actually glad we didn't get Jared Allen. I'd rather have kept Clemons to be honest.
Either way...hope the D can keep pressure on again this year.
 
2014-06-13 10:24:28 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: TsarTom: Seems like I never read the phrase "MN signs key player from...". If we ain't sending our best and brightest pro athletes to Boston, it's Seattle.
*Sigh*

Remember Steve Hutchinson?  That's karma, baby.



I came here for a Hutch/karma comment, and I leave satisfied.

/Go Hawks.
 
2014-06-13 10:30:18 AM  
So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?
 
2014-06-13 11:13:41 AM  

machoprogrammer: So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?


No.

The Vikings would have to win a SB to be like either of them.
 
2014-06-13 11:51:40 AM  

machoprogrammer: So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?


Yes, except the Seahawks have won a Superbowl, while the Vikings have Ponder(ed) passing.
 
2014-06-13 12:02:15 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: machoprogrammer: So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?

No.

The Vikings would have to win a SB to be like either of them.


Inasmuch as Vikes have found success with ex-Packers, it works, but we can't seem to get over the hump that the Hawks just did.

/ Although I STILL wouldn't have counted the trophy if we won it all behind Favre.
 
2014-06-13 12:04:06 PM  

roc6783: machoprogrammer: So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?

Yes, except the Seahawks have won a Superbowl, while the Vikings have Ponder(ed) passing.


Point already made and your joke felt forced.

Please try again.
 
2014-06-13 12:09:18 PM  

roc6783: machoprogrammer: So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?

Yes, except the Seahawks have won a Superbowl, while the Vikings have Ponder(ed) passing.


Although we are currently trying to Bridge(water) that talent gap.

/Also forced.
 
2014-06-13 12:46:52 PM  

TsarTom: Seems like I never read the phrase "MN signs key player from...". If we ain't sending our best and brightest pro athletes to Boston, it's Seattle.
*Sigh*


Didn't they sign a key Dallas player back in '89?
 
2014-06-13 01:43:37 PM  

Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)


He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.
 
2014-06-13 01:51:15 PM  

McUnfKitty: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)

He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.


I frankly have no idea what he has left in the tank but, again, PFF disagrees with you.
 
2014-06-13 02:17:24 PM  

Super Chronic: McUnfKitty: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)

He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.

I frankly have no idea what he has left in the tank but, again, PFF disagrees with you.


Listen very carefully:

If he is in on first and second down and is not your starter, then you are good.

If he is on 3rd down and/or is your main nose tackle you will be disappointed.

/I love the guy
//he's still lost a step with age
 
2014-06-13 02:17:43 PM  

skrame: TsarTom: Seems like I never read the phrase "MN signs key player from...". If we ain't sending our best and brightest pro athletes to Boston, it's Seattle.
*Sigh*

Didn't they sign a key Dallas player back in '89?


That is a forbidden topic in Minnesota.
 
2014-06-13 02:31:31 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Super Chronic: McUnfKitty: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)

He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.

I frankly have no idea what he has left in the tank but, again, PFF disagrees with you.

Listen very carefully:

If he is in on first and second down and is not your starter, then you are good.

If he is on 3rd down and/or is your main nose tackle you will be disappointed.

/I love the guy
//he's still lost a step with age


No chance he plays any nose tackle with Brandon Mebane entrenched there. He will be part of a very deep rotation at the 3-tech and/or 5-tech.
 
2014-06-13 03:53:35 PM  

Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Super Chronic: McUnfKitty: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)

He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.

I frankly have no idea what he has left in the tank but, again, PFF disagrees with you.

Listen very carefully:

If he is in on first and second down and is not your starter, then you are good.

If he is on 3rd down and/or is your main nose tackle you will be disappointed.

/I love the guy
//he's still lost a step with age

No chance he plays any nose tackle with Brandon Mebane entrenched there. He will be part of a very deep rotation at the 3-tech and/or 5-tech.


Then he should be able to meet your expectations within that role.
 
2014-06-13 04:55:58 PM  

This Looks Fun: roc6783: machoprogrammer: So the Seahawks are to the Vikings what the Vikings are to the Packers?

Yes, except the Seahawks have won a Superbowl, while the Vikings have Ponder(ed) passing.

Although we are currently trying to Bridge(water) that talent gap.

/Also forced.


There is a Love Boat joke in there somewhere, but I just don't have it today.
 
2014-06-13 04:58:13 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Super Chronic: McUnfKitty: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)

He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.

I frankly have no idea what he has left in the tank but, again, PFF disagrees with you.

Listen very carefully:

If he is in on first and second down and is not your starter, then you are good.

If he is on 3rd down and/or is your main nose tackle you will be disappointed.

/I love the guy
//he's still lost a step with age

No chance he plays any nose tackle with Brandon Mebane entrenched there. He will be part of a very deep rotation at the 3-tech and/or 5-tech.

Then he should be able to meet your expectations within that role.


I don't know why you're acting like they'd sign him to do anything else up there.

I mean, you know how the Seahawks rotate their line. You at least saw the Super Bowl, right?
 
2014-06-13 05:19:13 PM  

EvilMonkeyBoy: Jim from Saint Paul: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Super Chronic: McUnfKitty: Super Chronic: Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.

Pro Football Focus graded him as a positive player in 2013. But in any event he won't get the majority of snaps; he'll be used as a situational run stuffer, and in that role he should be quite good. I'd think he would get a lot of the snaps that Red Bryant took last year, but from what I've heard Williams prefers to play 3-tech rather than 5-tech. (But hey, Bryant himself was an underperformng 3-tech until the staff revived his career by moving him outside.)

He hasn't been a run stuffer since Phat Pat Retired. He is in his mid 30s. Has played the vast majority of the snaps available over his career. He was released form the worst defense the Vikings have ever seen by one of the better D coaches around. Have fun with that wasted roster spot, if he even makes the team.

I frankly have no idea what he has left in the tank but, again, PFF disagrees with you.

Listen very carefully:

If he is in on first and second down and is not your starter, then you are good.

If he is on 3rd down and/or is your main nose tackle you will be disappointed.

/I love the guy
//he's still lost a step with age

No chance he plays any nose tackle with Brandon Mebane entrenched there. He will be part of a very deep rotation at the 3-tech and/or 5-tech.

Then he should be able to meet your expectations within that role.

I don't know why you're acting like they'd sign him to do anything else up there.

I mean, you know how the Seahawks rotate their line. You at least saw the Super Bowl, right?


I am the sane version of the Viking fan going STUPID HEADS YOU GOT FLEECED. I am trying to show that just because I am a fan of a team that I can look at them objectively.Even if that means pointing out the obvious occasionaly.
 
2014-06-13 05:26:07 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I am the sane version of the Viking fan going STUPID HEADS YOU GOT FLEECED. I am trying to show that just because I am a fan of a team that I can look at them objectively.Even if that means pointing out the obvious occasionaly.


Next you'll be saying Percy Harvin/Sydney Rice/Nate Burleson are injury/headache prone.
 
2014-06-13 05:29:19 PM  

roc6783: Although we are currently trying to Bridge(water) that talent gap.

/Also forced.

There is a Love Boat joke in there somewhere, but I just don't have it today.


It's moot anyway. That ship has sailed.
 
2014-06-13 07:25:31 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Kevin Williams hasn;t been a key player for us for 3 years.

He should fit in as long as he is not your starter. IF he gets the majority of snaps, enjoy the NOTHING he provides your team over the course of a year.


That's not how the Seahawks run their defensive line rotation.
 
2014-06-13 09:18:19 PM  

Cletus C.: Jim from Saint Paul: I am the sane version of the Viking fan going STUPID HEADS YOU GOT FLEECED. I am trying to show that just because I am a fan of a team that I can look at them objectively.Even if that means pointing out the obvious occasionaly.

Next you'll be saying Percy Harvin/Sydney Rice/Nate Burleson are injury/headache prone.


I think the simple fact is that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl in spite of the players they picked up from the Vikes.

No knock on the team, I can only dream about a defense that good.
 
2014-06-14 06:36:17 PM  
They got to the SB in spite of Vikings players. Percy was a key factor in that win.
 
2014-06-14 07:00:55 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: They got to the SB in spite of Vikings players. Percy was a key factor in that win.


Tarvaris Jackson doesn't play much but he's well respected in the locker room and presumably played some intangible role. Heath Farwell is a significant special teams contributor.

I'm really interested to see what happens with Sidney Rice in 2014. A year ago he was considered the team's #1 receiver. He might reclaim that role or he might get cut in camp.
 
2014-06-14 08:11:20 PM  

Super Chronic: Tarvaris Jackson doesn't play much but he's well respected in the locker room and presumably played some intangible role.


TJack came back in the middle of a shiatty season to keep the team away from Whitehurst.  He played with a torn pec muscle on his throwing side and took shots of Teradol just to get back in the game.  All of the vets from that time remember that, and he functions as their resident tough guy.   The coaches are always quick to put him in the game when it looks like it is locked up.  The dude can legit say he played in the Super Bowl.
 
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