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(New York Magazine)   The worst part of Eric Cantor's surprising loss in VA's Republican primaries? Congress might never pass the Republican alternative to Obamacare that they've worked so hard on   (nymag.com) divider line 124
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2014-06-12 04:09:20 PM
I think it's hilarious that the GOP gerrymandered themselves out of a leadership role.
 
2014-06-12 04:12:08 PM
Would this be the cunning Baldrickian "We Do Nothing" plan?
 
2014-06-12 04:25:19 PM
They don't need to pass a Republican version of health care.  They succeeded in declaring Obamacare a failure.  Destroying the other side is all you need to do to win, not actually accomplishing anything.

We can go right back to people using emergency rooms as their primary care when they get a sore throat, hospitals closing because they can't afford to provide free care to entire communities, health insurance rates going up while coverage goes down, just like the good old days that they pine for.
 
2014-06-12 04:27:40 PM

BunkoSquad: Would this be the cunning Baldrickian "We Do Nothing" plan?


Beats the current Gen. Melchett "To continue with total slaughter until everyone's dead except Field Marshal Haig, Lady Haig and their tortoise, Alan? " plan
 
2014-06-12 04:29:53 PM

Earguy: They don't need to pass a Republican version of health care.  They succeeded in declaring Obamacare a failure.  Destroying the other side is all you need to do to win, not actually accomplishing anything.

We can go right back to people using emergency rooms as their primary care when they get a sore throat, hospitals closing because they can't afford to provide free care to entire communities, health insurance rates going up while coverage goes down, just like the good old days that they pine for.


I guess they could vote to repeal it. I'm sure with using the argument that there is no longer a set alternative, the repeal vote is sure to go through and win at all stages. Vote 50 is a charm.
 
2014-06-12 04:40:30 PM
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2014-06-12 04:43:11 PM
Should Cantor be taken off the most punchable list now? Is it fair to punch a loser when he has a sad?
 
2014-06-12 04:47:27 PM
37.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-12 05:33:55 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Beats the current Gen. Melchett "To continue with total slaughter until everyone's dead except Field Marshal Haig, Lady Haig and their tortoise, Alan? " plan


or Field Marshal Haig's plan to move his drinks cabinet six inches closer to Berlin.
 
2014-06-12 06:02:11 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: [img.fark.net image 605x328]


No speaker gavel for you, Cantor.  Not. Yours.
 
2014-06-12 06:03:10 PM

TheManofPA: Earguy: They don't need to pass a Republican version of health care.  They succeeded in declaring Obamacare a failure.  Destroying the other side is all you need to do to win, not actually accomplishing anything.

We can go right back to people using emergency rooms as their primary care when they get a sore throat, hospitals closing because they can't afford to provide free care to entire communities, health insurance rates going up while coverage goes down, just like the good old days that they pine for.

I guess they could vote to repeal it. I'm sure with using the argument that there is no longer a set alternative, the repeal vote is sure to go through and win at all stages. Vote 50 is a charm.


Vote 50 came and went a while ago.
 
2014-06-12 06:06:47 PM
They never had an alternative, and never will.
 
2014-06-12 06:14:24 PM

Aarontology: They never had an alternative, and never will.


Their alternative is to have poor people die.
 
2014-06-12 06:19:40 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Aarontology: They never had an alternative, and never will.

Their alternative is to have poor people die.


That's just their general party policy though. It's not specific to health care.
 
2014-06-12 06:21:23 PM
The NEW GOP health care plan is AWESOME!!!

The GOP has not officially released their health care plan, but we have been able to figure out some of the details by listening to their complaints about Obamacare.

1) Your rates can never go up.  You will pay the same or less than what you are currently paying.
2) You never have to change doctors, in fact, doctors will be required to take you as a patient.
3) You can never be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions.
4) Birth control is covered for free.
5) All doctors will be in all networks
6) The government website with details about this plan will be available 24 x 7 x 365. It will work flawlessly on day one and never be slow, no matter how many people try to use it at one time.
7) Insurance companies will be banned from ever dropping a plan.
8) Only 8 million people signed up for Obamacare, the GOP plan would have many many more people covered.
9) Some number of people lost their coverage, that will be undone with GOPcare. They will get their old plans back, at the same premium.
10) All medicines will be covered, no matter what the cost.

No seriously.
We have been told, over and over, that these are the TERRIBLE things about Obamacare.
And the GOP keeps telling us that they will repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.
Right?

/I wrote this 2 months ago and keep adding to it whenever I find yet another shiny new republican complaint about Obamacare.
 
2014-06-12 06:24:01 PM

namatad: The NEW GOP health care plan is AWESOME!!!

The GOP has not officially released their health care plan, but we have been able to figure out some of the details by listening to their complaints about Obamacare.

1) Your rates can never go up.  You will pay the same or less than what you are currently paying.
2) You never have to change doctors, in fact, doctors will be required to take you as a patient.
3) You can never be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions.
4) Birth control is covered for free.
5) All doctors will be in all networks
6) The government website with details about this plan will be available 24 x 7 x 365. It will work flawlessly on day one and never be slow, no matter how many people try to use it at one time.
7) Insurance companies will be banned from ever dropping a plan.
8) Only 8 million people signed up for Obamacare, the GOP plan would have many many more people covered.
9) Some number of people lost their coverage, that will be undone with GOPcare. They will get their old plans back, at the same premium.
10) All medicines will be covered, no matter what the cost.

No seriously.
We have been told, over and over, that these are the TERRIBLE things about Obamacare.
And the GOP keeps telling us that they will repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.
Right?

/I wrote this 2 months ago and keep adding to it whenever I find yet another shiny new republican complaint about Obamacare.


I love every time you post this.
 
2014-06-12 06:26:01 PM
They've had, like, 5 years to come up with something.  Outsing Cantor isn't going to change their lack of plans or ideas.  Their ideas suck.
 
2014-06-12 06:26:07 PM
Poor Eric. All he had to do was get that 100th "repeal vote" punch in his "He-Man Obamacare-Hatin' Club" Membership Card and he was entitled to a FREE Medium Fries at *any* DC-area Arby's...FOR LIFE.

Thanks, Teahadists. You broke a man's dream.
 
2014-06-12 06:41:01 PM
Opposition to Obamacare has literally never been about policy. You can't formulate a coherent policy to replace it.
 
2014-06-12 06:52:03 PM

DamnYankees: Opposition to Obamacare has literally never been about policy. You can't formulate a coherent policy to replace it.


Yes you can: single payer.
 
2014-06-12 06:57:01 PM

doyner: DamnYankees: Opposition to Obamacare has literally never been about policy. You can't formulate a coherent policy to replace it.

Yes you can: single payer.


I meant from the right. I was unclear.
 
2014-06-12 07:00:30 PM

Mentat: I think it's hilarious that the GOP gerrymandered themselves out of a leadership role.


?

VA-7, Cantor's district, has been exactly the same since 1993.
 
2014-06-12 07:02:42 PM

DamnYankees: doyner: DamnYankees: Opposition to Obamacare has literally never been about policy. You can't formulate a coherent policy to replace it.

Yes you can: single payer.

I meant from the right. I was unclear.


And I was being obtuse...
 
2014-06-12 07:29:59 PM

doyner: DamnYankees: doyner: DamnYankees: Opposition to Obamacare has literally never been about policy. You can't formulate a coherent policy to replace it.

Yes you can: single payer.

I meant from the right. I was unclear.

And I was being obtuse...


Intentionally Obtuse would be a cool fark handle.
 
2014-06-12 07:33:08 PM

Ambivalence: They've had, like, 5 years to come up with something.  Outsing Cantor isn't going to change their lack of plans or ideas.  Their ideas suck.


They have ideas? I mean besides tax cuts and privatizing everything.
 
2014-06-12 07:35:06 PM
Since then, the Party has displayed suspiciously little progress toward fulfilling its goal. A cynic might suggest this was the intent all along.

This is my shocked face:

i567.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-12 07:36:16 PM
That is a shame.

www.csmonitor.com
 
2014-06-12 07:44:45 PM

fusillade762: Ambivalence: They've had, like, 5 years to come up with something.  Outsing Cantor isn't going to change their lack of plans or ideas.  Their ideas suck.

They have ideas? I mean besides tax cuts and privatizing everything.


Yes.  They also had the really horrible idea of opening up inter-state competition, basicly abolishing state's ability to regulate insurance.

Why do republicans hate states' rights?
 
2014-06-12 07:50:40 PM
Subby, what do you mean the Republicans have no plan?

How about this one they had long long time ago:

api.ning.com

Checkmate libtardos!!!
 
2014-06-12 07:51:29 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Poor Eric. All he had to do was get that 100th "repeal vote" punch in his "He-Man Obamacare-Hatin' Club" Membership Card and he was entitled to a FREE Medium Fries at *any* DC-area Arby's...FOR LIFE.

Thanks, Teahadists. You broke a man's dream.


With the way that is worded, he only gets one, but he can claim it whenever he likes.
 
2014-06-12 07:52:57 PM
I was thinking that the worst part of Cantor's loss was the guy that beat him.
 
2014-06-12 07:58:05 PM

Lsherm: A-7, Cantor's district, has been exactly the same since 1993.


Exactly wrong
 
2014-06-12 08:00:08 PM

Corvus: Subby, what do you mean the Republicans have no plan?

How about this one they had long long time ago:

[api.ning.com image 279x412]

Checkmate libtardos!!!


I've GIS'd that and still can't believe that was a real thing.
 
2014-06-12 08:02:02 PM
DNRTFA, is this the guy who does satire for the New Yorker?
 
2014-06-12 08:02:11 PM
wait. isn't obamacare the GOP health care plan?
 
2014-06-12 08:02:31 PM

Ambivalence: They've had, like, 5 years to come up with something.  Outsing Cantor isn't going to change their lack of plans or ideas.  Their ideas suck.


They have lots of meaningless words, but no bill.
A plan is not a bill.
If they were serious, they would vote not on repeal, but vote on their replacement bill.

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
 
2014-06-12 08:07:23 PM
The Republican Health Care Plan:

www.sjps.tv
 
2014-06-12 08:08:39 PM

Lsherm: VA-7, Cantor's district, has been exactly the same since 1993.


NPR was talking about how republicans are almost exclusively in massively majority white districts this morning

Unfortunately for the GOP "90% white district" is starting to mean "minority party"
 
2014-06-12 08:09:34 PM

shanrick: Should Cantor be taken off the most punchable list now? Is it fair to punch a loser when he has a sad?


With Cantor? Totally.
 
2014-06-12 08:10:09 PM

namatad: The NEW GOP health care plan is AWESOME!!!

The GOP has not officially released their health care plan, but we have been able to figure out some of the details by listening to their complaints about Obamacare.

1) Your rates can never go up.  You will pay the same or less than what you are currently paying.
2) You never have to change doctors, in fact, doctors will be required to take you as a patient.
3) You can never be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions.
4) Birth control is covered for free.
5) All doctors will be in all networks
6) The government website with details about this plan will be available 24 x 7 x 365. It will work flawlessly on day one and never be slow, no matter how many people try to use it at one time.
7) Insurance companies will be banned from ever dropping a plan.
8) Only 8 million people signed up for Obamacare, the GOP plan would have many many more people covered.
9) Some number of people lost their coverage, that will be undone with GOPcare. They will get their old plans back, at the same premium.
10) All medicines will be covered, no matter what the cost.

No seriously.
We have been told, over and over, that these are the TERRIBLE things about Obamacare.
And the GOP keeps telling us that they will repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.
Right?

/I wrote this 2 months ago and keep adding to it whenever I find yet another shiny new republican complaint about Obamacare.


That sounds a lot like the ZOMG FRENCH system!
 
2014-06-12 08:14:17 PM
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2014-06-12 08:17:14 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Aarontology: They never had an alternative, and never will.

Their alternative is to have poor people die.


The Republicans are going to make sure everyone is taken care of. The rich can pay for top of the line medical care, thus creating jobs, and everyone else has easy access to a free alternative that cures everything.
 
2014-06-12 08:19:23 PM

Delta1212: Darth_Lukecash: Aarontology: They never had an alternative, and never will.

Their alternative is to have poor people die.

The Republicans are going to make sure everyone is taken care of. The rich can pay for top of the line medical care, thus creating jobs, and everyone else has easy access to a free alternative that cures everything.


SOCIALISM!!!1!
 
2014-06-12 08:21:36 PM
But who's gonna be there to not pass immigration reform now?
 
2014-06-12 08:21:38 PM
Sounds like they are on to something!

Now that they have a scapegoat, everything that goes wrong between now and November can be blamed on Cantor.

Darn Cantor lost, now we'll never pass ___________!

/ Just another excuse to do diddly jack squat.
// then they can give blaming everything on Obama a rest.
/// BWAHAHAHAHA  no....
 
2014-06-12 08:26:46 PM
0-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2014-06-12 08:28:22 PM

Corvus: Subby, what do you mean the Republicans have no plan?

How about this one they had long long time ago:

[api.ning.com image 279x412]

Checkmate libtardos!!!


The preferred term is libghazis.
 
2014-06-12 08:31:56 PM
 
2014-06-12 08:35:48 PM
The alternative to ObamaRx is for government to remove themselves from the issue of healthcare altogether. Except for vets, and they should just be cut a healthcare voucher check so they can go shop around and buy their own healthcare.
 
2014-06-12 08:36:32 PM

Omahawg: wait. isn't obamacare the GOP health care plan?


ACA is the old GOP health care plan.  They replaced it with TBD and DIAF after Obama got on board.
 
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