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(USA Today)   Elon Musk says Tesla patents will be available to other companies. Continues his pursuit of becoming the world's worst super villian   (usatoday.com) divider line 45
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2014-06-12 07:14:03 PM  
Decent idea.  Season ticket packages are way too farking expensive.
 
2014-06-12 07:16:13 PM  
A bold, but understandable move. He's trying to jumpstart the (electric car) industry itself (a rising tide and whatnot) and rely on Tesla's own innovations to stay ahead of the curve.

It's also an interesting and stark contrast to how he handles patents at SpaceX.
 
2014-06-12 08:35:03 PM  
A real super villain would do exactly what Musk is doing, to gain the love of the commoners and the media.  He's like Ozymandius in The Watchmen, the comic version, not the over-the-top movie one.
 
2014-06-12 08:37:40 PM  
House bill outlawing release of patents prior to expiration in 5... 4... 3...

/with amendment increasing default patent period to 100 years
 
2014-06-12 08:50:50 PM  
Simply brilliant.

You gotta love this guy.
 
2014-06-12 09:18:57 PM  

The Bestest: A bold, but understandable move. He's trying to jumpstart the (electric car) industry itself (a rising tide and whatnot) and rely on Tesla's own innovations to stay ahead of the curve.

It's also an interesting and stark contrast to how he handles patents at SpaceX.


Both approaches make sense for their respective industries.  Tesla is the giant in the tiny electric car industry and would benefit immensely from increased network effects that grow that industry even if it costs them market share.  SpaceX, on the other hand, is the newcomer to the launch-vehicle industry and needs to protect their R&D from vastly bigger, quasi-governmental competitors.
 
2014-06-12 09:22:28 PM  
This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.
 
2014-06-12 09:31:45 PM  

JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.


Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.
 
2014-06-12 09:32:02 PM  

JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.


Are you saying he has a power armor based on Tesla's notes?.
 
2014-06-12 09:53:58 PM  

rogue49: Simply brilliant.

You gotta love this guy.


If I was ever in a position to have that kind of money, I like to hope I'd act something like a combination of Elon Musk, Bill gates, and Richard Branson. Do a lot of good for the world at large and have all kinds of stupid fun while doing it.
 
2014-06-12 10:23:52 PM  
My theory is he wants out of the auto manufacturing business and into the component design business. Building cars is a slow, capital-heavy venture that requires HUGE commitments to work on the scale he's imagining. And even with battery tech, electric vehicles are a niche (one of many) solution to help out with cutting oil. I would guess he can make more money/have more influence designing, consulting, and standardizing than he ever would have by building directly.

Musk is smart enough to realize that Tesla could potentially build for 60 years and still only be a small fish.
 
2014-06-12 10:43:58 PM  

the cake is a pie: rogue49: Simply brilliant.

You gotta love this guy.

If I was ever in a position to have that kind of money, I like to hope I'd act something like a combination of Elon Musk, Bill gates, and Richard Branson. Do a lot of good for the world at large and have all kinds of stupid fun while doing it.


This.
 
2014-06-12 10:44:51 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: My theory is he wants out of the auto manufacturing business and into the component design business. Building cars is a slow, capital-heavy venture that requires HUGE commitments to work on the scale he's imagining. And even with battery tech, electric vehicles are a niche (one of many) solution to help out with cutting oil. I would guess he can make more money/have more influence designing, consulting, and standardizing than he ever would have by building directly.

Musk is smart enough to realize that Tesla could potentially build for 60 years and still only be a small fish.


Tesla sold drive trains to Toyota for the RAV-E or whatever they called it. Toyota then f*cked up the implementation seemingly on purpose. So maybe this is a "f*ck you* to Toyota writ large enough to be seen from geosync with the Mark 1 eyeball.

/semi drunken guessing
 
2014-06-12 11:22:07 PM  
doofusgumby: Tesla sold drive trains to Toyota for the RAV-E or whatever they called it. Toyota then f*cked up the implementation seemingly on purpose. So maybe this is a "f*ck you* to Toyota writ large enough to be seen from geosync with the Mark 1 eyeball.

/semi drunken guessing


Amusing insight! Could be some truth to it. However, Toyota is an investor in Tesla. Tesla acquired Toyota's part of the NUMMI plant at which they now assemble the Model S.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/toyota-investment-adds-jolt-to-tesl a- ipo-2010-05-21
https://autos.yahoo.com/news/toyota-investment-gives-tesla-economy-o f- scale-to-build-affordable-evs.html
 
2014-06-12 11:25:13 PM  

SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.


Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.
 
2014-06-12 11:56:17 PM  

StopLurkListen: doofusgumby: Tesla sold drive trains to Toyota for the RAV-E or whatever they called it. Toyota then f*cked up the implementation seemingly on purpose. So maybe this is a "f*ck you* to Toyota writ large enough to be seen from geosync with the Mark 1 eyeball.

/semi drunken guessing

Amusing insight! Could be some truth to it. However, Toyota is an investor in Tesla. Tesla acquired Toyota's part of the NUMMI plant at which they now assemble the Model S.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/toyota-investment-adds-jolt-to-tesl a- ipo-2010-05-21
https://autos.yahoo.com/news/toyota-investment-gives-tesla-economy-o f- scale-to-build-affordable-evs.html


I know all that. I'm pointing out that DESPITE all that, Toyota are being total dicks when it comes to ZEVs. They put almost zero effort into meeting the CARB standard, f*cking over anyone who thought "hey, I'd like a ZEV, and look, Toyota is using Tesla parts, I'm a get that because it's cheaper than a Tesla and Toyota has a good rep in my mind!" Cue the tow truck.

Nissan went all-in. Smart went in super cheap so Mercedes could keep selling luxobarges. Etc with other mfrs.

Toyota is the short-sighted one. Their implementation was sh*t from the get-go.
 
2014-06-12 11:58:50 PM  

Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.


Batman's a scientist.
 
2014-06-13 12:11:26 AM  

donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.


Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?
 
2014-06-13 12:23:35 AM  

doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?


Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.
 
2014-06-13 12:25:24 AM  

SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.


Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.
 
2014-06-13 12:32:04 AM  

SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.


Back in the long ago, Bruce Wayne was Tony Stark level genius

/built his own equipment
//damn I wish I had even half the comic books I once had
 
2014-06-13 01:54:14 AM  
These days you have to patent everything just to keep trolls at bay. Even if you want to give away your ideas.
 
2014-06-13 02:06:55 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: House bill outlawing release of patents prior to expiration in 5... 4... 3...

/with amendment increasing default patent period to 100 years


Snark aside, if you look at it again, you'll see that Tesla is keeping the patents active -- just not enforcing them under circumstances of their own choosing.

In a nutshell, if you're building a competitive car with their technology, it's fair game. If you're doing something shady with their patent to try and bury it, they reserve the right to sue.
 
2014-06-13 02:53:05 AM  
Disappointed.  Thought this was going to be about newly uncovered Nicola Tesla patents.  Or something.
 
2014-06-13 02:56:29 AM  

BKITU: MaudlinMutantMollusk: House bill outlawing release of patents prior to expiration in 5... 4... 3...

/with amendment increasing default patent period to 100 years

Snark aside, if you look at it again, you'll see that Tesla is keeping the patents active -- just not enforcing them under circumstances of their own choosing.

In a nutshell, if you're building a competitive car with their technology, it's fair game. If you're doing something shady with their patent to try and bury it, they reserve the right to sue.


In other words, it's a meaningless gesture that has people applauding, but in the real world no car company in the world is just going to start implementing patented technology into a line of cars that could come back on them in a super costly lawsuit. What happens if Tesla isn't happy with your company and decides to enforce it's patent? What happens if Tesla sells out and the next company that acquires the company decides to enforce the patent to kill competition?
 
2014-06-13 03:14:03 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: My theory is he wants out of the auto manufacturing business and into the component design business. Building cars is a slow, capital-heavy venture that requires HUGE commitments to work on the scale he's imagining. And even with battery tech, electric vehicles are a niche (one of many) solution to help out with cutting oil. I would guess he can make more money/have more influence designing, consulting, and standardizing than he ever would have by building directly.

Musk is smart enough to realize that Tesla could potentially build for 60 years and still only be a small fish.


I've always thought that Tesla wanted to be acquired. He's done all the steps: make yourself a luxury brand with a new technology. Show that the technology is viable. All that's left is to offer yourself up with all the patents to another larger company, they keep the luxury brand going and implement the new technology into more of the fleet at affordable levels.

And if Musk really wanted everyone driving electric cars how about starting with a price point of less that 70K for one.
 
2014-06-13 03:30:52 AM  

BKITU: Snark aside, if you look at it again, you'll see that Tesla is keeping the patents active -- just not enforcing them under circumstances of their own choosing.

In a nutshell, if you're building a competitive car with their technology, it's fair game. If you're doing something shady with their patent to try and bury it, they reserve the right to sue.


It's a press release. They're not going to spend the pages upon pages required to explain a perpetual viral patent cross-license, especially if there are still fine details to hammer out. Tesla will wait until the first company approaches them, get the last of it ironed out, and then announce that in a press release with a little more detail.
 
2014-06-13 06:16:22 AM  

pedobearapproved: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: My theory is he wants out of the auto manufacturing business and into the component design business. Building cars is a slow, capital-heavy venture that requires HUGE commitments to work on the scale he's imagining. And even with battery tech, electric vehicles are a niche (one of many) solution to help out with cutting oil. I would guess he can make more money/have more influence designing, consulting, and standardizing than he ever would have by building directly.

Musk is smart enough to realize that Tesla could potentially build for 60 years and still only be a small fish.

I've always thought that Tesla wanted to be acquired. He's done all the steps: make yourself a luxury brand with a new technology. Show that the technology is viable. All that's left is to offer yourself up with all the patents to another larger company, they keep the luxury brand going and implement the new technology into more of the fleet at affordable levels.



The thing is, their stock price went apeshiat and no one is going to pay anything like their market cap to acquire them.
 
2014-06-13 06:23:07 AM  

SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.


Technically, the Batman of the comics isn't the Batman of the comics either. How many times has DC rebooted the universe in the last twenty years or so?
 
2014-06-13 07:37:51 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.

Back in the long ago, Bruce Wayne was Tony Stark level genius

/built his own equipment
//damn I wish I had even half the comic books I once had


That makes him an engineer not a scientist.
 
2014-06-13 08:02:07 AM  

Flint Ironstag: MaudlinMutantMollusk: SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.

Back in the long ago, Bruce Wayne was Tony Stark level genius

/built his own equipment
//damn I wish I had even half the comic books I once had

That makes him an engineer not a scientist.


It's impossible to differentiate the many kinds of scientists and engineers in most comic books.  If you are one, you are also all of the others.

Time to calculate the effect of the transcription t-ribsomace in this RNA sequence while testing the chemical properties of this nano carbon material Batman!
 
2014-06-13 08:53:26 AM  

SphericalTime: Flint Ironstag: MaudlinMutantMollusk: SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.

Back in the long ago, Bruce Wayne was Tony Stark level genius

/built his own equipment
//damn I wish I had even half the comic books I once had

That makes him an engineer not a scientist.

It's impossible to differentiate the many kinds of scientists and engineers in most comic books.  If you are one, you are also all of the others.

Time to calculate the effect of the transcription t-ribsomace in this RNA sequence while testing the chemical properties of this nano carbon material Batman!


If you're going for any sort of 'realism' he also has a near mutant healing ability when it comes to the commonly sustained injuries and wear his body would have.

His intelligence is Tony Stark level - depending on the series. Hell, even in the movies he ostensibly built the phone tracking/imaging system. But the inventions he's created by himself in the comics is basically beyond genius level.

Not to mention the ability to translate that to his fighting ability, with his intelligence and reactions as a fighter - as well as his speed of picking up fighting styles - is pretty super human.

Basically Batman is a super-human whose abilities are just slightly above realistic human ability, and reach pretty much every part of his physical and mental skills.
 
2014-06-13 08:57:27 AM  
This is shockingly bold.

I like it.

He says that when he proposed the open-source idea, he got some "wide-eyed looks" from some board members and managers. But he downplayed the risk of the move, saying that quick-moving companies usually stay ahead of their own patents. Attracting top talent matters more.
 
2014-06-13 09:09:16 AM  
I just want to know when I can order a battery pack and motors so I can convert my CR-Z into a tiny sports car.
 
2014-06-13 09:28:57 AM  

pedobearapproved: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: My theory is he wants out of the auto manufacturing business and into the component design business. Building cars is a slow, capital-heavy venture that requires HUGE commitments to work on the scale he's imagining. And even with battery tech, electric vehicles are a niche (one of many) solution to help out with cutting oil. I would guess he can make more money/have more influence designing, consulting, and standardizing than he ever would have by building directly.

Musk is smart enough to realize that Tesla could potentially build for 60 years and still only be a small fish.

I've always thought that Tesla wanted to be acquired. He's done all the steps: make yourself a luxury brand with a new technology. Show that the technology is viable. All that's left is to offer yourself up with all the patents to another larger company, they keep the luxury brand going and implement the new technology into more of the fleet at affordable levels.

And if Musk really wanted everyone driving electric cars how about starting with a price point of less that 70K for one.


He's working on it. A $30-40k model is planned for 2016-2017ish, once the new Gigafactory comes online and they can produce batteries in larger quantities.

He created something mostly completely new, using parts and technology that (apparently) no one else was capable of building. So he had to invent the processes and build the factories that produce those parts himself. You pay off the factories and R&D with an expensive model, then democratize it down once you can afford to ramp up production.
 
2014-06-13 09:58:33 AM  

If Elon Musk is a super villain, this must be his henchman.

/underling?


robot6.comicbookresources.com
 
2014-06-13 10:41:42 AM  

doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?


Well, yes.

Who else programmed the autopilot function for his aircraft?
 
2014-06-13 11:13:24 AM  

doofusgumby: StopLurkListen: doofusgumby: Tesla sold drive trains to Toyota for the RAV-E or whatever they called it. Toyota then f*cked up the implementation seemingly on purpose. So maybe this is a "f*ck you* to Toyota writ large enough to be seen from geosync with the Mark 1 eyeball.

/semi drunken guessing

Amusing insight! Could be some truth to it. However, Toyota is an investor in Tesla. Tesla acquired Toyota's part of the NUMMI plant at which they now assemble the Model S.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/toyota-investment-adds-jolt-to-tesl a- ipo-2010-05-21
https://autos.yahoo.com/news/toyota-investment-gives-tesla-economy-o f- scale-to-build-affordable-evs.html

I know all that. I'm pointing out that DESPITE all that, Toyota are being total dicks when it comes to ZEVs. They put almost zero effort into meeting the CARB standard, f*cking over anyone who thought "hey, I'd like a ZEV, and look, Toyota is using Tesla parts, I'm a get that because it's cheaper than a Tesla and Toyota has a good rep in my mind!" Cue the tow truck.

Nissan went all-in. Smart went in super cheap so Mercedes could keep selling luxobarges. Etc with other mfrs.

Toyota is the short-sighted one. Their implementation was sh*t from the get-go.


Could you explain the flaws in their implementation, please?

From what I understand, a vast number of the complaints are difficulty getting service.  But isn't a selling point of BEVs that they need *less* service than an ICE?  What issues are the RAV4 EVs having that require them to have so many service visits?  (For comparison, Mrs. Orange's 3-year old Civic has never been back to the dealer for anything.)

A specific problem I can find, is the Tesla-supplied ECU, which apparently is seriously flawed.Tesla won't comment, other than saying that they're just the supplier.   Likewise, the Tesla-supplied motor has been a source of problems. The NHTSA reports a drivetrain problem, with a car giving an "EVsystem error" code and needing a motor replacement (which was repaired satisfactorily by Toyota service).

Please feel free to point out the problems reported from the Toyota-supplied parts of the vehicle, so we can make a comparison.
 
2014-06-13 11:41:39 AM  

The Bestest: A bold, but understandable move. He's trying to jumpstart the (electric car) industry itself (a rising tide and whatnot) and rely on Tesla's own innovations to stay ahead of the curve.

It's also an interesting and stark contrast to how he handles patents at SpaceX.


I think SpaceX is different because the US govt is trying to use it to be its next generation of rockets and space travel. The government doesn't like its tech public knowledge.
 
2014-06-13 12:52:34 PM  

hausman007: I just want to know when I can order a battery pack and motors so I can convert my CR-Z into a tiny sports car.


You don't need to get stuff from Tesla to do that.  Tell me your budget and I can tell you what to get.
 
2014-06-13 04:38:31 PM  
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*Everyone* can be super!
And when everyone's super...  no one will be.
 
2014-06-13 07:38:48 PM  

Hollie Maea: hausman007: I just want to know when I can order a battery pack and motors so I can convert my CR-Z into a tiny sports car.

You don't need to get stuff from Tesla to do that.  Tell me your budget and I can tell you what to get.


Is this feasible for <$10k?
 
2014-06-13 09:51:31 PM  

Deneb81: SphericalTime: Flint Ironstag: MaudlinMutantMollusk: SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.

Back in the long ago, Bruce Wayne was Tony Stark level genius

/built his own equipment
//damn I wish I had even half the comic books I once had

That makes him an engineer not a scientist.

It's impossible to differentiate the many kinds of scientists and engineers in most comic books.  If you are one, you are also all of the others.

Time to calculate the effect of the transcription t-ribsomace in this RNA sequence while testing the chemical properties of this nano carbon material Batman!

If you're going for any sort of 'realism' he also has a near mutant healing ability when it comes to the commonly sustained injuries and wear his body would have.

His intelligence is Tony Stark level - depending on the series. Hell, even in the movies he ostensibly built the phone tracking/imaging system. But the inventions he's created by himself in the comics is basically beyond genius level.

Not to mention the ability to translate that to his fighting ability, with his intelligenc ...


I was just throwing out a Simpson;s quote, I had no idea it would derail things so much.
 
2014-06-13 10:04:31 PM  

donnielove: Deneb81: SphericalTime: Flint Ironstag: MaudlinMutantMollusk: SphericalTime: SphericalTime: doofusgumby: donnielove: Sim Tree: SphericalTime: JonBuck: This guy is more like Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark, whose biggest superpower is arguably money.

Bruce Wayne has two powers: being crazy and having money.  Arguably, Tony Stark just has the latter.  Don't get me wrong, they're both great characters.

Tony can also invent stuff. His superpower is his ingenuity.

Batman's a scientist.

Wat. In the ... latest movies he's an heir to a large industrialist estate and pays people for that sort of thing. You're not suggesting he gets down in a lab, do you?

/were the movies retconning the comics?

Not really. He is/was the worlds greatest detective, which often involved a lot of CSI and chemistry. A scientist generally conotates a bit more focused study than that.

Or "yes totally" depending on how literal you want to take "reconning the comics." The batman from the movies isn't the same as the one in the comic books.

Back in the long ago, Bruce Wayne was Tony Stark level genius

/built his own equipment
//damn I wish I had even half the comic books I once had

That makes him an engineer not a scientist.

It's impossible to differentiate the many kinds of scientists and engineers in most comic books.  If you are one, you are also all of the others.

Time to calculate the effect of the transcription t-ribsomace in this RNA sequence while testing the chemical properties of this nano carbon material Batman!

If you're going for any sort of 'realism' he also has a near mutant healing ability when it comes to the commonly sustained injuries and wear his body would have.

His intelligence is Tony Stark level - depending on the series. Hell, even in the movies he ostensibly built the phone tracking/imaging system. But the inventions he's created by himself in the comics is basically beyond genius level.

Not to mention the ability to translate that to his fighting ability, with his intelligenc ...

I was just throwing out a Simpson;s quote, I had no idea it would derail things so much.


It was a late night drunken WTF comic geekout apparently. Heh.
 
2014-06-13 11:02:00 PM  

Fonaibung: Hollie Maea: hausman007: I just want to know when I can order a battery pack and motors so I can convert my CR-Z into a tiny sports car.

You don't need to get stuff from Tesla to do that.  Tell me your budget and I can tell you what to get.

Is this feasible for <$10k?


10k is borderline, but might be doable.  For that price, you will have to use a brushed DC motor. You can get a 9 inch motor from Netgain for under two grand, or hunt down a suitable forklift motor for somewhat cheaper. To save a couple grand, assemble your own controller.  There is a nice open source one called "open revolt". For your charger, there is a kit I have heard about from emotorwerks.com.

Doing that for the big ticket items should leave you the five grand you will need for your lithium iron phosphate batteries.  CALB is a good brand for those.
 
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