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(IT World)   How old is this object-oriented programming code? So old that when it was written, Larry King was only on his fourth marriage   (itworld.com) divider line 26
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2014-06-12 04:18:22 PM  
... and is still what the VA uses.
 
2014-06-12 05:04:02 PM  
Wow! I heard of that about 30 years ago at my university. Never saw a single line of code in Simula, but some guys i used to know had to learn the language, because there was still a Univac in use.

/C++, Java, PHP when it comes to OOP
 
2014-06-12 05:20:00 PM  
How did they compile back then?
 
2014-06-12 05:20:38 PM  

Calmamity: ... and is still what the VA uses.


The VA uses MUMPS.
 
2014-06-12 05:30:09 PM  

Fritriac: Wow! I heard of that about 30 years ago at my university. Never saw a single line of code in Simula, but some guys i used to know had to learn the language, because there was still a Univac in use.

/C++, Java, PHP when it comes to OOP


PHP ^(*&@#*&^$*(@&#^*$&00000000#$
 
2014-06-12 05:33:37 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Calmamity: ... and is still what the VA uses.

The VA uses MUMPS.


Isn't it just called "M" now a days?
 
2014-06-12 05:37:43 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Calmamity: ... and is still what the VA uses.

The VA uses MUMPS.


I was sure this was a joke, but it's not.

/thanks for this thread
//now I don't feel so old
///I feel AppleDOS and Apple BASIC young
 
2014-06-12 06:11:25 PM  
that's weird, i always thought the VA uses chumps, the fork of mumps.
 
2014-06-12 06:26:39 PM  
The important thing is that every programming language uses interchangeable terms. This way new languages are easy to learn.
 
2014-06-12 06:37:35 PM  
i never got mumps, even although I spent most of 78-80 attending mumps parties.
 
2014-06-12 06:48:24 PM  
Before Simula 67, however, Nygaard and Dahl first wrote an earlier version of the language, called Simula I in 1964.

What happened to Simula 2 through 66?
 
2014-06-12 06:55:30 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Before Simula 67, however, Nygaard and Dahl first wrote an earlier version of the language, called Simula I in 1964.

What happened to Simula 2 through 66?


They were replaced by Infomil.
 
2014-06-12 07:00:37 PM  

xkillyourfacex: How did they compile back then?


Teletype and papertape...
 
2014-06-12 07:11:05 PM  

mcreadyblue: Mr. Eugenides: Calmamity: ... and is still what the VA uses.

The VA uses MUMPS.

Isn't it just called "M" now a days?


Only by the hipsters.

Fark like a Barsoomian: Mr. Eugenides: Calmamity: ... and is still what the VA uses.

The VA uses MUMPS.

I was sure this was a joke, but it's not.

/thanks for this thread
//now I don't feel so old
///I feel AppleDOS and Apple BASIC young


You feel old.  I've worked on the VA code.
 
2014-06-12 07:28:21 PM  
PHP? Really?
 
2014-06-12 07:47:27 PM  
The oldest header entry in a file I have worked on was 1988.

The project I'm working on now involves code that was written in the early 90s and runs on a 386.
 
2014-06-12 08:03:36 PM  

xkillyourfacex: How did they compile back then?


Slowly.
 
2014-06-12 08:25:47 PM  

Calmamity: ... and is still what the VA uses.


Ha.
 
2014-06-12 09:02:04 PM  
The original "object oriented" is more like service-oriented architecture (when you pull away all the bullshiat buzzword nonsense which is to say, 99% of it) or the actor model. When you really break it down, all you can do is send a message to objects, and function calls on object instances are just that.

The Java version of "OOP" is just bullshiat buzzwordification meant to sell software engineering books. Almost all C# and Java code written by OOP "professionals" is some kind of eery cultist set of ceremony, and doesn't actually contribute to any real value.

Is someone around you talking about "loose coupling" and "high cohesion"? They're full of shiat. They care more about the act of programming (the mechanical aspect) than computing and solving problems. They're forever lost in speculative architecture hypothesis. "But what if we need a new [x]?"  You probably won't.

You look at the people who churn out books on this shiat, and of course they run consulting companies, and of course they can sell you their services, and they haven't really made anything (except anecdotal software stories that are dubious at best) except maybe a few tools that you only use because you are participating in their ceremony. So once you're dogged with software "craftsmanship" axioms and all of the bullshiat that they throw at you, of course you need their books to try to work around the limitations you've self-imposed.
/don't see real software legends barking on about test driven development or object oriented programming//they care about algorithms, computational theory, and just getting things done
 
2014-06-12 09:24:20 PM  
Who the hell is Larry King?

That's how old that joke is.

/I know who he is
 
2014-06-12 10:36:52 PM  
tvseriesfinale.com

Gene Rayburn and Dumb Donald approve of this headline
 
2014-06-12 10:38:11 PM  

Pharque-it: xkillyourfacex: How did they compile back then?

Teletype and papertape...


XYXYXYXYXYXYXY

/obscure?
//29J10
 
2014-06-13 12:18:55 AM  
Looks like an IR! For those under the age of about 35, object oriented programming is a design methodology, not a language. ;-) You can do horribly un-OO in C++ and extremely good OO in assembly. It's all in how the constructs are applied.
 
2014-06-13 12:22:12 AM  
Fark like a Barsoomian:
///I feel AppleDOS and Apple BASIC young

I remember using those in high school for computer class. First time I realized I was decent at programming, yet hated every minute of it (except when pulling pranks).

I passed the class, but about 80% of the time, I was really playing Sierra games. Got in big trouble, because an idiot classmate started passing around Leisure Suit Larry, and it all traced back to me.
 
2014-06-13 02:29:33 AM  

daveinsurgent: /don't see real software legends barking on about test driven development or object oriented programming//they care about algorithms, computational theory, and just getting things done


You've got an awfully tinted set of glasses there.

There are lots of software legends who came to fame in a time when modern software architecture hadn't been invented yet. They're great, but that doesn't mean they're not dinosaurs.
 
2014-06-13 08:34:37 AM  

Linux_Yes: that's weird, i always thought the VA uses chumps, the fork of mumps.


Somewhere there's a joke about 'lovely lady lumps' in there, but rather than make it, here's a picture of
Fergie in a bikini:

2.bp.blogspot.com

She does sometimes have a theraputic effect on me.
 
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