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(LBC 97.3)   Trio of massive solar flares set to hit earth on Friday, June 13. I'm sure everything will be just fi   (lbc.co.uk ) divider line 73
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2014-06-12 09:31:29 AM  
Well, I'll just have to fire up the 6 meter rig in hopes of some auroral contacts.
 
2014-06-12 09:53:26 AM  
There have been several flares over the last few days, only maxing out at a low X2.2. Not that worrisome.
 
2014-06-12 09:55:40 AM  
Also, why does a geek story about solar flares get linked to a radio station?
 
2014-06-12 10:03:03 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: Also, why does a geek story about solar flares get linked to a radio station?


I don't know, maybe because solar flares and associated CME's have an effect on radio propagation?
 
2014-06-12 10:05:56 AM  

dittybopper: InterruptingQuirk: Also, why does a geek story about solar flares get linked to a radio station?

I don't know, maybe because solar flares and associated CME's have an effect on radio propagation?


Just because some disc jockey pushes a payola or laughtrack button under a 400 ft antenna, that doesn't make him an authority of space weather.
 
2014-06-12 10:11:43 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: dittybopper: InterruptingQuirk: Also, why does a geek story about solar flares get linked to a radio station?

I don't know, maybe because solar flares and associated CME's have an effect on radio propagation?

Just because some disc jockey pushes a payola or laughtrack button under a 400 ft antenna, that doesn't make him an authority of space weather.


InterruptingQuirk: dittybopper: InterruptingQuirk: Also, why does a geek story about solar flares get linked to a radio station?

I don't know, maybe because solar flares and associated CME's have an effect on radio propagation?

Just because some disc jockey pushes a payola or laughtrack button under a 400 ft antenna, that doesn't make him an authority of space weather.


LBC is a news/talk format.
 
2014-06-12 10:21:12 AM  

dittybopper: LBC is a news/talk format.


I said laughtrack.
 
2014-06-12 10:22:05 AM  
CME's also cause double-quoting.
 
2014-06-12 10:25:54 AM  
 
2014-06-12 10:26:35 AM  

dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.


dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.


That doesn't sound right. Where did you hear that?
 
2014-06-12 10:28:09 AM  
Look up the term "glancing blow", then try to relax, subby.
 
2014-06-12 10:32:22 AM  
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NEARSIDED!
 
2014-06-12 10:33:59 AM  
Going to be night-hiking all weekend under clear skies.  Anyone know if this is likely to cause particularly widespread aurora?
 
2014-06-12 10:35:40 AM  
"Nasa"?
 
2014-06-12 10:38:10 AM  

dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.


If you narrow your band filter you can sometimes fix that.
 
2014-06-12 10:45:03 AM  

Erix: Going to be night-hiking all weekend under clear skies.  Anyone know if this is likely to cause particularly widespread aurora?


The one in March of '89 (that knocked out power for a lot of Canada) caused auroras that were visible in southern Florida.

There was a flare in 1859 that produced auroras that could be seen in Hawaii. It also knocked out telegraph service all over the country, and some of the sparking wires actually caused fires.

While there haven't been any flares (or CMEs) of those magnitudes lately, there have been some that pushed the visible aurora as far south as central Ohio.
 
2014-06-12 10:45:20 AM  

Erix: Going to be night-hiking all weekend under clear skies.  Anyone know if this is likely to cause particularly widespread aurora?


Earlier this week there was good show in the Mid west.  I just guessing but I would say your chances are pretty good.

http://khon2.com/2014/06/08/dazzling-northern-lights-display-over-mi nn esota/
 
2014-06-12 10:51:51 AM  
WHat is up with that headline? Did Candlejack suddenly
 
2014-06-12 10:55:33 AM  
I hope it doesn't knock out power or I might be forced to spend time with my family. Oh, wait. I have a generator. Crisis averted!
 
2014-06-12 10:56:11 AM  
Great, I guess this means I should be ready for a shiatstorm of customers calling in saying their shiat ain't working. Either that or suddenly we'll be able to key towers 60-110 miles away.
 
2014-06-12 10:59:32 AM  
Let's see, a CME arriving... on Friday the 13th... which is a full moon.

Just frickin' lovely. The nutjobs will be in rare form.
 
2014-06-12 11:14:51 AM  
It would become an interesting world for a while if all non-hardened electronics fried.
 
2014-06-12 11:22:46 AM  
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.gnitouq-elbuod esuac osla s'EMC :reppobyttid
:ihrgoN

.taht xif semitemos nac uoy retlif dnab ruoy worran uoy fI

.gnitouq-elbuod esuac osla s'EMC :reppobyttid
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Nogrhi: dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.

If you narrow your band filter you can sometimes fix that.


Nogrhi: dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.

If you narrow your band filter you can sometimes fix that.


But it really sucks when you have a direct conversion receiver.
 
2014-06-12 11:23:06 AM  

Prophet of Loss: It would become an interesting world for a while if all non-hardened electronics fried.


I would be completely fine with 3-5 days of zero electricity.
 
2014-06-12 11:23:41 AM  
As long as the internet continues to work no farks will be given.
 
2014-06-12 11:27:59 AM  
and the seas will turn to blood, the dead will rise and feed on the living...


So like every other day the world ends, what's the big deal about this time?

Radios won't work.

i.imgur.com

This really is the end!
 
2014-06-12 11:29:40 AM  
So is this going to be like every other solar flare story where doom and gloom is predicted only to have nothing happen, or is there actually something to this?
 
2014-06-12 11:32:39 AM  

dittybopper: .taht xif semitemos nac uoy retlif dnab ruoy worran uoy fI

.gnitouq-elbuod esuac osla s'EMC :reppobyttid :ihrgoN

.taht xif semitemos nac uoy retlif dnab ruoy worran uoy fI

.gnitouq-elbuod esuac osla s'EMC :reppobyttid :ihrgoN


Nogrhi: dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.

If you narrow your band filter you can sometimes fix that.

Nogrhi: dittybopper: CME's also cause double-quoting.

If you narrow your band filter you can sometimes fix that.

But it really sucks when you have a direct conversion receiver.


Affirmative.
 
2014-06-12 11:50:35 AM  
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2014-06-12 11:51:49 AM  
I blame manmade global warming.
 
2014-06-12 11:54:11 AM  

Erix: Going to be night-hiking all weekend under clear skies.  Anyone know if this is likely to cause particularly widespread aurora?


Bottom line: There's no way to know for sure.

However, when they do happen, they are so spectacular that it's worth waking up every so often to check. Good luck.
 
2014-06-12 12:00:29 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: So is this going to be like every other solar flare story where doom and gloom is predicted only to have nothing happen, or is there actually something to this?


At first it looked like this entire CME would miss the Earth, but after closer examination it looks like some may hit. It isn't going to be anything big or disastrous.  Some day, a "big one" will hit; it happened before, and that will be more exciting, but this isn't it.  Might get to see some Northern Lights at lower latitudes, but the Moon is full so that will wash it out unless it gets really bright. I'm still going out to look if it is clear.
 
2014-06-12 12:10:33 PM  

Prophet of Loss: It would become an interesting world for a while if all non-hardened electronics fried.


It would also be an interesting world for a while if a mutant bacterium suddenly started digesting all petroleum products and turning them into CO2, water, and a fine aerosol of LSD. Fortunately, that's not going to happen, either.

If you don't want your electronics fried by a CME impact, don't tie them to antennas thousands of miles long. There, That Was Easy (tm).
 
2014-06-12 12:22:56 PM  
It's a flarocalypse!
 
2014-06-12 12:22:57 PM  
My internet went out on Tuesday morning, and my router was fried afterward. Could that flare earlier this week have done that?
 
2014-06-12 12:23:08 PM  

jfarkinB: Prophet of Loss: It would become an interesting world for a while if all non-hardened electronics fried.

It would also be an interesting world for a while if a mutant bacterium suddenly started digesting all petroleum products and turning them into CO2, water, and a fine aerosol of LSD. Fortunately, that's not going to happen, either.

If you don't want your electronics fried by a CME impact, don't tie them to antennas thousands of miles long. There, That Was Easy (tm).


Oh you mean like power lines, jackass?
 
2014-06-12 12:23:30 PM  

Nogrhi: dittybopper: 

But it really sucks when you have a direct conversion receiver.

Affirmative.


Actually, I do most of my operating now with DC receivers.  Outside of the recent Museum Ships Weekend, I do most operating with a Heathkit HW-8 QRP rig.
 
2014-06-12 12:35:09 PM  

Catsaregreen: I blame manmade global warming.


See; you are finally coming around.  We knew it might take some time but it's good to see you understanding how this all works.
 
2014-06-12 12:41:00 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: So is this going to be like every other solar flare story where doom and gloom is predicted only to have nothing happen, or is there actually something to this?


"SOLAR FLARE HITS PLANET, SCORCHES EVERYTHING TO ASH" would just turn out to be "Solar Flare Hits Planet, Causes Problems With Communication Devices".
 
2014-06-12 12:47:13 PM  
I irrationally hate this headline. If your power went out, barring you from finishing typing, it wouldn't allow you to submit the link. I get the joke, but COME ON!
 
2014-06-12 12:47:38 PM  

dittybopper: Nogrhi: dittybopper: 

But it really sucks when you have a direct conversion receiver.

Affirmative.

Actually, I do most of my operating now with DC receivers.  Outside of the recent Museum Ships Weekend, I do most operating with a Heathkit HW-8 QRP rig.


Very cool.  I am really interested in moving to QRP as an excuse to do some homebuilt micro stuff but I have to finish learning morse first.
 
2014-06-12 12:52:03 PM  
I'm sure everything will be just fi

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"I calculate an 85% chance that this headline was cut short due to solar flares, Master."
 
2014-06-12 12:59:07 PM  

Nogrhi: dittybopper: Nogrhi: dittybopper: 

But it really sucks when you have a direct conversion receiver.

Affirmative.

Actually, I do most of my operating now with DC receivers.  Outside of the recent Museum Ships Weekend, I do most operating with a Heathkit HW-8 QRP rig.

Very cool.  I am really interested in moving to QRP as an excuse to do some homebuilt micro stuff but I have to finish learning morse first.


Well, I've got a bit of a Morse bias, since I was a Morse interceptor in the Army before I was a ham.

Right now I'm thinking about a portable set up to take hiking.  Friend of mine built a really nifty $1,500 backpack radio setup (Yaesu FT-857, 22 Ah battery, automatic antenna tuner, fancy antenna).  But I'm looking along much cheaper lines.   Small QRP rig, my Heathkit HTA-9 QRP manual antenna tuner, 2.7 Ah battery, and wire for antennas.

It's just amazing what you can do with QRP.  Especially if you look at doing "local" communications:  Most of my contacts with the HW-8 are on 80 and 40 meters, through a fairly low 80m end fed Zepp.  Sometimes all I have to do is throw a quick CQ out and I get an immediate response.  Pretty amazing.
 
2014-06-12 01:00:30 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: So is this going to be like every other solar flare story where doom and gloom is predicted only to have nothing happen, or is there actually something to this?


I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say "Yes, absolutely".
 
2014-06-12 01:02:20 PM  

dittybopper: Well, I'll just have to fire up the 6 meter rig in hopes of some auroral contacts.


What kind of antenna do you have for that?
 
2014-06-12 01:04:46 PM  

dittybopper: Nogrhi: dittybopper: Nogrhi: dittybopper: 

But it really sucks when you have a direct conversion receiver.

Affirmative.

Actually, I do most of my operating now with DC receivers.  Outside of the recent Museum Ships Weekend, I do most operating with a Heathkit HW-8 QRP rig.

Very cool.  I am really interested in moving to QRP as an excuse to do some homebuilt micro stuff but I have to finish learning morse first.

Well, I've got a bit of a Morse bias, since I was a Morse interceptor in the Army before I was a ham.

Right now I'm thinking about a portable set up to take hiking.  Friend of mine built a really nifty $1,500 backpack radio setup (Yaesu FT-857, 22 Ah battery, automatic antenna tuner, fancy antenna).  But I'm looking along much cheaper lines.   Small QRP rig, my Heathkit HTA-9 QRP manual antenna tuner, 2.7 Ah battery, and wire for antennas.

It's just amazing what you can do with QRP.  Especially if you look at doing "local" communications:  Most of my contacts with the HW-8 are on 80 and 40 meters, through a fairly low 80m end fed Zepp.  Sometimes all I have to do is throw a quick CQ out and I get an immediate response.  Pretty amazing.


Yep, you are thinking along my lines.  I am running the Yaesu FT-857 at home and have thought about either the FT-817 (QRP only) or the Elecraft QRP with the morse key on the front but I think as I do the lightweight backpacking thing, I will start with an 'altoid tin radio' with a wire tossed into a tree.  Did you build your own Zepp or buy one?
 
2014-06-12 01:07:46 PM  

jfarkinB: Prophet of Loss: It would become an interesting world for a while if all non-hardened electronics fried.

It would also be an interesting world for a while if a mutant bacterium suddenly started digesting all petroleum products and turning them into CO2, water, and a fine aerosol of LSD. Fortunately, that's not going to happen, either.

If you don't want your electronics fried by a CME impact, don't tie them to antennas thousands of miles long. There, That Was Easy (tm).


Shiat. They are welded. What do I do?
 
2014-06-12 01:09:27 PM  
This is the image that keeps running through my head with you people right now:

www.thedailysheeple.com
 
2014-06-12 01:22:27 PM  
6132014EE
 
2014-06-12 01:25:19 PM  
I'm flying tomorrow.  Maybe I'll land with super powers.
 
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