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2014-06-12 03:34:33 AM
That's nothing. My grampa wanted to put the shower above the toilet (in all the toilets -- in an apartment building). It would save space and let you do two things at once. The other people involved nixed it.

I wonder why ...
 
2014-06-12 04:22:38 AM
That is not at all uncommon in Ireland, at least the places I've lived in. Perhaps the rich people do something else.
 
2014-06-12 07:03:56 AM
I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.
 
2014-06-12 07:14:24 AM
John has a long mustache.
 
2014-06-12 08:50:43 AM
I want a urinal in my bedroom.
And I want separate plumbing out for grey water to recycle it for garden, and toilet flushing.
 
2014-06-12 09:06:31 AM
What's the deal with Jesus and feet?
 
2014-06-12 09:07:19 AM
TFA makes some good points, but fails to make the most important one: Things are as they are.  You'd have to be an idiot to not know how to manage things in your bathroom.  I'd rather not have an hundred competing standards of bathroom ergonomics to deal with when I travel.  Just give me a sink, tub (with or w/o shower), commode, and a towel rack more or less in the same general area at home or away.

People went ballistic when Microsoft took away their "Start" button.  Does the author of TFA really think they'll calmly accept someone rearranging their morning defecation?
 
2014-06-12 09:25:14 AM
Appropriate article for me to read from the crapper.
 
2014-06-12 09:27:15 AM

feckingmorons: That is not at all uncommon in Ireland, at least the places I've lived in. Perhaps the rich people do something else.


For some reason, lots of houses in Lansing MI have sinks in the master bedroom (with a full bathroom down the hall).  It's just that part of the state.  Not sure why, and afraid to ask.

/do a quick wash of sex toys?
 
2014-06-12 09:46:35 AM
Plenty of houses do both those now. The water closet is not a new idea, but it is a good one, since it keeps you spray bits of fecal matter onto your toothbrush when you flush. (Which is a lot bigger a deal than having a doorknob between the sink and the toilet, Three Crooked Squirrels.) It also means that one person can use the toilet while someone else uses the sink, which is nice if you don't have a million toilets in your house, and is what I see as the biggest advantage.

And lots of bathrooms (in newer houses) have separate showers and baths. They just put some walls around the shower instead of doing it free range.
 
2014-06-12 09:49:20 AM
I do like the idea of the shower right next to the bath. The rest of the article... Eh.
 
2014-06-12 09:56:06 AM
The toilet bowl has a lid.  Always close it before you flush.  Now your toothbrush is safe(r).
 
2014-06-12 09:56:45 AM
As long as there are plenty of stuffed animals to touch while I'm crapping then make your bathrooms however you want.
johnpalmerhouse.com
 
2014-06-12 10:12:06 AM

solokumba: As long as there are plenty of stuffed animals to touch while I'm crapping then make your bathrooms however you want.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-g1wl_gKXA">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=A-g1wl_gKXA

Don't forget the musty smell.
 
2014-06-12 10:13:48 AM
Oh my God!! THERES NO SINK!
 
2014-06-12 10:17:55 AM

dittybopper: John has a long mustache.


The chair is against the wall.
 
2014-06-12 10:20:19 AM
The five and a half minute hallway is especially impressive.
 
2014-06-12 10:21:34 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.


Almost every separate WC here has a tiny sink just for washing your hands, while the room with the bath has a bigger sink for washing your teeth, face etc.
 
2014-06-12 10:22:34 AM

I May Be Crazy But...: (Which is a lot bigger a deal than having a doorknob between the sink and the toilet, Three Crooked Squirrels.)


My toothbrush is safely in the medicine cabinet.
 
2014-06-12 10:22:48 AM
Having to run outside the bathroom to wash my hands wounds my heart with a monotonous languor, there better be a chair against the wall I can sit upon.  If it's not a coed bathroom I think the "John" should be marked with a mustache to signify it is for men only.
/That is all
 
2014-06-12 10:23:12 AM

Flint Ironstag: Almost every separate WC here has a tiny sink just for washing your hands, while the room with the bath has a bigger sink for washing your teeth, face etc.


That would be fine with me, but the places I've stayed don't have that.
 
2014-06-12 10:23:23 AM

syberpud: feckingmorons: That is not at all uncommon in Ireland, at least the places I've lived in. Perhaps the rich people do something else.

For some reason, lots of houses in Lansing MI have sinks in the master bedroom (with a full bathroom down the hall).  It's just that part of the state.  Not sure why, and afraid to ask.

/do a quick wash of sex toys?


pithypants.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-12 10:30:59 AM
Apparently the apartments in college had a "weird bathroom" too.

Two sinks outside a room with a door that contained the toilet and shower.

If you needed a sink/mirror to get ready in the morning (looking at you, ladies), someone could be showering while you were getting ready. Considering you had 4 people in the apartment and only one bathroom (and many days 2-4 people getting ready at the same time), I thought this was a pretty sound design.
 
2014-06-12 10:37:42 AM
I've looked at old apartments where the bathtub was located in the kitchen.  This isn't such a weird idea.
 
2014-06-12 10:43:56 AM
Pretty good idea if you are strapped for space. Would be a problem if you have others living with you.

Three Crooked Squirrels: I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.


In a hotel room that toilet and doorknob are likely the cleanest things as they are actually cleaned for each guest.
 
2014-06-12 11:20:56 AM

Uncle Tractor: That's nothing. My grampa wanted to put the shower above the toilet (in all the toilets -- in an apartment building). It would save space and let you do two things at once. The other people involved nixed it.

I wonder why ...


Most of the places I stay in Asia are just like that.  Toilet, sink side by side and shower on the wall opposite.  The whole thing is tiled with a drain in the floor.  Works really well for saving space as well as cleaning,

/they also do on-demand hot water in the shower.
/cheaper and easier than hot water heater
 
2014-06-12 11:33:34 AM

bmckenna: Apparently the apartments in college had a "weird bathroom" too.

Two sinks outside a room with a door that contained the toilet and shower.

If you needed a sink/mirror to get ready in the morning (looking at you, ladies), someone could be showering while you were getting ready. Considering you had 4 people in the apartment and only one bathroom (and many days 2-4 people getting ready at the same time), I thought this was a pretty sound design.


That's exactly how the upstairs guest bathroom in our home is laid out.  Open the door and there are 'his and hers' sinks on the right with a mirror running the length of the wall.  Continue straight and open the next door, and there's the toilet along with the bathtub/shower.  All of our overnight guests love it.
 
2014-06-12 11:36:15 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.


i1168.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-12 11:37:02 AM
I love how, "I decided to break my house up into apartments to make extra money" is now "I'm reducing my carbon footprint"
 
2014-06-12 11:44:38 AM
The fact that he's included eight doors in a small space shows that he 's never tried to live in a cramped space. Having more than one person at a time in that bathroom is going to be a nightmare
 
2014-06-12 11:54:12 AM

BIGNICKEL: dittybopper: John has a long mustache.

The chair is against the wall.


There is a fire at the travel agency
 
2014-06-12 11:58:49 AM

BIGNICKEL: dittybopper: John has a long mustache.

The chair is against the wall.


The elephants are eating strawberries.
 
2014-06-12 12:25:06 PM
Brian: "I thought the camper was neat. It had a toilet right in the shower."

ALF: "So do we!"

Reproachful glares from everyone else.

ALF: "Oh what? Like you've never done it?"
 
2014-06-12 12:53:41 PM
Just get one of those Japanese ass washing toilets and you won't have to worry about a dirty knob.

/likes the idea of a wet bath with soaker tub
//american bath tubs suck unless you're a midget or pre-teen
 
2014-06-12 01:10:33 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: The fact that he's included eight doors in a small space shows that he 's never tried to live in a cramped space. Having more than one person at a time in that bathroom is going to be a nightmare


I count 6 in the whole unit. One of which is the main entrance onto the garage and 3 of which are entrances to the storage space, service area, and W/D area respectively. It really isn't that bad. For the bathroom itself you only have the one going to the tub which swings in, and the one going to the toilet which swings out. Service room and W/D aren't high traffic doors.

I grew up in a pretty small house, and have lived in lots of small apartments, I don't think it looks like a problem at all.
 
2014-06-12 01:13:54 PM

LewDux: What's the deal with Jesus and feet?


Foot fetish I guess.
 
2014-06-12 01:14:04 PM
Wow this isn't even a "White People Problem."

More like a "Upper Class White People Problem."

UCWPP
 
2014-06-12 01:27:39 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.


Why not just take a small towel in there with you?
 
2014-06-12 01:33:29 PM
CSB

I once rented a tiny stone cabin that was built by a couple as practice for building their house (yes, by themselves). The sink was awkwardly squeezed next to the bed, just outside the cramped bathroom. Although they never admitted it, I'm pretty sure that they had meant to put that sink in the bathroom but, when drawing up the plans, forgot to include the prosaic but necessary width of the walls... so they ran out of room. When sitting on the toilet I could barely close the door and fit my knees in front of me.

It was problematic whenever I had overnight company because washing one's hands after going inevitably woke the other person up. But then again, they were probably already awake from the jet engine-like flush of the toilet they installed.

I kind of miss that cabin. Landlady was absolutely and unpleasantly nuts, but it was a great little place in the woods.

/dunno how the Unabomber got so nuts living in a cabin in the woods, they're very relaxing places
//he probably had cable instead of DirecTV
///if he had Comcast I could really understand
 
2014-06-12 01:54:34 PM

LewDux: What's the deal with Jesus and feet?


Rhetorical question or are you not familiar with the Biblical story?

In Ye Ancien Tymes it was very common to travel by walking the dusty or muddy roads in sandals or barefoot. A good (and practical) host would provide new arrivals with a basin of water and, if the host was wealthy enough, a servant to wash the guests' feet.

On at least one occasion, Christ turned the custom around and-- despite being the most exalted guest-- washed everyone else's feet Himself. Point made: his followers had better be prepared to act as servants to the flock.

With help from Wikipedia: this rite, known as Maundy, is usually reenacted on Maundy Thursday of Holy Week (during Lent) by priests of all rank washing the feet of a representative group of parishioners. It is a reminder to priests to be humble servants.

Interestingly, Muslims also have a religious washing tradition called "wudu" in which head, arms (to the elbow), and legs (to the knees) must be washed before prayer. I imagine this also is rooted in a time when getting dusty/dirty was much more common, and encouraged good hygienic practices.

I imagine Judaism has something similar. Jewish tradition is rife with hygienic practices enshrined as religious dicta.
 
2014-06-12 02:12:39 PM

Vash's Apprentice: The five and a half minute hallway is especially impressive.


1/4".
 
2014-06-12 02:21:38 PM

reillan: Three Crooked Squirrels: I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.

Why not just take a small towel in there with you?


Or just use a piece of toilet paper.
 
2014-06-12 04:36:06 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I often stay at hotels with a "water closet" (I think that's what this set up is called).  Personally, I think it is pretty gross.  While I am aware that not everybody washes their hands after they go to the bathroom, with a water closet, there is a 100% chance that everyone that crapped in there with the door closed used the door handle without washing their hands.  I'm sure it's not a big deal as long as I go from the water closet to the sink and wash my own hands.  After all, people touch the flusher before washing their hands, and I use the remote in the hotel even though I am sure that is a biohazard.  But still, I'd rather the sink be on the same side of the door as the toilet.

/Not generally a germaphobe, but don't like water closets, if that is what they are called.


How is this any different than public bathroom stalls?
 
2014-06-12 05:18:31 PM
I once lived in a house with a crapper pretty much smack-dab in the middle of the basement.  No walls, just the throne in the middle of the basement.  Turns out this wasn't an unusual feature of Milwaukee bungalows built in the '20's & '30's.
 
2014-06-12 06:07:59 PM
Holy shiat that's eccentric. We don't have or want this problem in Colorado.
 
2014-06-12 06:31:29 PM

xkillyourfacex: Holy shiat that's eccentric. We don't have or want this problem in Colorado.


Does it frighten and/or confuse you? I recommend several hits of cantaloupe haze just to be on the safe side.

/maybe it'll be your friend if you offer it a slice of pizza
//be careful though, if you anger it it'll go get its big brother The Gazebo
 
2014-06-12 06:54:26 PM

Uncle Tractor: That's nothing. My grampa wanted to put the shower above the toilet (in all the toilets -- in an apartment building). It would save space and let you do two things at once. The other people involved nixed it.

I wonder why ...


I saw tons of showers above toilets in India.  They use floor drains in the bathroom like the Japanese bath mentioned in the article, so there isn't any real separation anyway.
 
2014-06-12 08:36:09 PM
This "every time you flush, you cover your toothbrush in poop" thing is stupid. By the time you've started kindergarten you've obviously built up the neccessary antibodies to not get sick form it, let alone by the time your able to own a house.

I don't know how I feel about the sink in the hall... There's a reason that the mirror is over the sink. There are a lot of things people do at the sink that require light and the option to wash things away immediately. I'm gonna truck all of that shiat into the hallway?

I DO like the idea of having an extra sink for people who need to wash up, but don't need the full bathroom facilities.

Also, our sink looks like the health and beauty section of the local Dept. store exploded on it. As it is, I can hide at least one of the bathrooms from guests without renting a bobcat to get all of the stuff off of there in less than a week...
 
2014-06-12 10:02:27 PM
i'll answer his question with a question: Why did you think anyone would care?

/meh
 
2014-06-13 02:53:20 AM
Why do I get the feeling this thread is turning into a Philip Glass song?
 
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