LarryDan43: She should have been more bootstrappy.
Enthusiast34: Surgery would've happened with or without insurance, it's just paid for now.
GreatGlavinsGhost: Thanks, Obama./no, seriously, thank you
Deep Contact: So that's like having a damaged car and buying insurance to pay for repairs.
generallyso: Enthusiast34: Surgery would've happened with or without insurance, it's just paid for now.How do you figure?
vodka: My state didn't expand medicaid and I'm not eligible for any of the hardship exemptions. Obamacare truly farked me.
big pig peaches: The reason it's called "insurance" is because you're supposed to get it before something goes wrong.I sure wish I could start paying for car insurance after I have an accident.
big pig peaches: The reason it's called "insurance" is because you're supposed to get it before something goes wrong.
OtherBrotherDarryl: Are they puting these in my soup or something?
Forbidden Doughnut: LarryDan43: She should have been more bootstrappy.Or, as the pastor for my (former) church would say, "God takes care of people who take care of themselves!"
vpb: big pig peaches: The reason it's called "insurance" is because you're supposed to get it before something goes wrong.I sure wish I could start paying for car insurance after I have an accident.I sure wish I could buy another life the way I can a car./I think you right wingers should totally go with this one. It's bad enough that poor people are allowed to eat, now they want to live even if they can't pay?. Outrage!
Shadowtag: But Obamacare is socialism. Clearly that tumor is the brain-clone of Stalin Hitler Disney.
dragonchild: GreatGlavinsGhost: Thanks, Obama./no, seriously, thank youThis is one of the few things in the bill that actually worked, but let's correct a little revisionist history here.Obama actually had very little to do with the healthcare reform he was championing and damn near lost it. He threw the damn thing at a lame-duck conservative Senator who shut liberal Democrats out of the process in favor of Republicans, left the more liberal (at the time) House -- which was actually passing bills like single-payer -- out to dry, did absolutely nothing to stop the "conservative" Democrats from mucking up the process and wasted so much time wining-and-dining the Maine kunts (who are notorious for paying lip service to liberalism to appeal to their voters but are on record as Bush whores) that they were all but conditioned to drag the process out as much as possible. By the time the damn thing passed every single proposed liberal reform was killed and the thing was being openly booed by liberals. There's a reason why Obama's approval rating plunged something like 20-30 points following HCR. He threw the people who got him elected under the bus and called it victory.It's the Republicans who started calling it "Obamacare", but the Republican hate crusade is founded in nothing more than partisanship. They basically got exactly what they proposed themselves in years prior -- legally mandated purchase of health insurance, absolutely no reform for the out-of-control hospitals -- so the efforts to get it repealed are really them pulling a fast one on their own constituents.
vodka: In other news, there are a lot more regular self-employed people like me that now can't afford insurance that is worse than what I had before and 5 times as expensive (not joking). Seriously, my health insurance costs almost as much as my mortgage now. I can't get credit/assistance from the government to pay for it because I often don't make enough money (again, not joking; I don't make enough to get help). My state didn't expand medicaid and I'm not eligible for any of the hardship exemptions. Obamacare truly farked me.
Animatronik: I'm glad the link is broken./the trouble with health care is that you need a way to control costs. But nobody wants to be responsible for that in government. So insurance plays a role. But everybody demonized insurance for controlling costs while rejecting "death panels".
Launch Code: Here's me, working 12 hour days and sometimes weekends, thankful that I still have a job, to properly support my family and our lifestyle. Here's me wondering if our insurance will be dropped because it doesn't include maternity leave and other stuff that at age 50 the obama facists tell me I need. Here's me wondering if we'll be able to keep our family doctor, like barry promised, after obamacare ruins my company's health plan in 2015. Here's me wondering if that woman could've gotten health coverage another way without the total dismantling of Americas health system just so the federal govt could get even bigger and more bloated with govt workers. Here's me waiting for November so I can cast my vote against every democrat on the ballot because every democrat, no matter what they say now, supported this obamacare folly.
Animatronik: everybody demonized insurance for controlling costs
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