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2014-06-12 11:59:48 AM  

thamike: What I read from the initial statement was more of an indictment of America's "us vs the world" mindset, and that it just won't do for a progressive society


Oh.  Ok I guess. I suppose I tried too hard to make his post into something that was on topic :)

thamike: but I think you missed his point completely.


Wouldn't be my first time.
 
2014-06-12 12:05:24 PM  

The Homer Tax: For what it's worth, I give this idiotic hag more credit than most racists. At least she's owning it and being honest about her hatred. That means it's there and you don't have to deal with her playing the "I'm not racist! You're racist for saying in racist!" Game.

She's vile, repugnant, and hateful...but she's got my respect just a little more than racists who pretend they're not.


I don't respect racists whether they're upfront about it or couch it behind code words and "I'm not a racist, you're the racist for thinking I'm being racist!"
 
2014-06-12 12:15:10 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

It only seems like that because that's what you want to believe. Because you are a racist individual.


It has nothing to do with what I want to believe. Blame the NY Times and other major news outlets for being racist, because they're the ones running the stories.
 
2014-06-12 12:23:06 PM  

The Homer Tax: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

My sister and brother in law are both teachers at different schools in relatively affluent, white area (Northern VA). Social Promotion is very real and rampant here, the fear is usually from Braeydyn and Dakotas daddy's lawyers, not from "black protesters."

There are major problems with the public schooling system in this country, and said issues are indifferent to race. Your repeated desire to ascribe them to one race at the exclusion of others is why people think of you as a racist.


This. My dad is a teacher in south Alabama in a mostly white (around 60%) school district, and while he may sometimes have racist tendencies (he's against affirmative action, black history month, and doesn't understand why "being proud to be white" makes people uncomfortable, but he has black friends, so totes not racist(sarcasm)), he'll straight up tell you that the majority of students he has to raise grades for so they can move on to the next grade are the white kids. He's always saying how he wishes the white students had the dedication and drive of the Hispanic and black students. You know, the poor and economically challenged minorities that want to get the hell out of the hood and trailer parks, while the white kids take pride in being ignorant rednecks and white trash.

I mean, it comes off a little racist when my dad says it, but based on my experience in a mostly white suburban school system growing up, he's right. Most of the kids that couldn't hack it and had to get their grades bumped up so they didn't fail were the rich white kids whose parents had connections to the school board/administrators.
 
2014-06-12 12:25:50 PM  

Headso: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

are those "news accounts" from right wing blogs?


http://www.ny1.com/content/news/78886/hundreds-protest-mayor-s-plan- to -end-8th-grade-social-promotion/

This took about 5 seconds to google. Check out the video.
 
2014-06-12 12:32:32 PM  

DrPainMD: Headso: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

are those "news accounts" from right wing blogs?

http://www.ny1.com/content/news/78886/hundreds-protest-mayor-s-plan- to -end-8th-grade-social-promotion/

This took about 5 seconds to google. Check out the video.


My SO works in higher ed. It is amazing how much remedial math and English today's high school grads have to take to even begin college level courses. If that is the argument she is making it is a compelling one, but she should phrase it differently.
 
2014-06-12 12:32:36 PM  

ReverendJynxed: starsrift: PawisBetlog: starsrift: Being a racist little biatch isn't illegal. If the majority of her electorate is behind her, she can say all the vile things she wants. I guess.

It's sad, though. But that's what you have to expect from a woman.

Well done

Thanks, I try. :)
/ Some days I wonder if these things just sail over everyone's heads, or if everyone thinks they're too stupid to remark on...

Too early in the day. Everyone is still sitting on their 24 hour time-out from yesterday's MRA thread. Come back in a couple of hours when they have a chance to catch up.


What thread was that?
 
2014-06-12 12:33:16 PM  

DrPainMD: Blame the NY Times


*CHUG*
 
2014-06-12 12:35:06 PM  

glmorrs1: The Homer Tax: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

My sister and brother in law are both teachers at different schools in relatively affluent, white area (Northern VA). Social Promotion is very real and rampant here, the fear is usually from Braeydyn and Dakotas daddy's lawyers, not from "black protesters."

There are major problems with the public schooling system in this country, and said issues are indifferent to race. Your repeated desire to ascribe them to one race at the exclusion of others is why people think of you as a racist.

This. My dad is a teacher in south Alabama in a mostly white (around 60%) school district, and while he may sometimes have racist tendencies (he's against affirmative action, black history month, and doesn't understand why "being proud to be white" makes people uncomfortable, but he has black friends, so totes not racist(sarcasm)), he'll straight up tell you that the majority of students he has to raise grades for so they can move on to the next grade are the white kids. He's always saying how he wishes the white students had the dedication and drive of the Hispanic and black students. You know, the poor and economically challenged minorities that want to get the hell out of the hood and trailer parks, while the white kids take pride in being ignorant rednecks and white trash.

I mean, it comes off a little racist when my dad says it, but based on my experience in a mostly white suburban school system growing up, he's right. Most of the kids that couldn't hack it and had to get their grades bumped up so they didn't fail were the rich white kids whose parents had connections to the school board/administrators.


And, I'd like to add, that based on my anecdotal experiences, most of the reason black students give up and drop out is because of (probably unintentional and unrecognized) institutionalized racism. When Brian, a white classmate, acted out telling jokes, mocking the teacher, and playing "pranks" like stealing the teachers farking grade book every chance he could, the teacher just told him to knock it off and joked about him being the class clown. When Al, a black classmate, made an occasional joke or played a small prank, like hiding the blackboard eraser, he was a troublemaker disturbing the class and had to go to the principal's office.
 
2014-06-12 12:44:30 PM  

grumpfuff: Brick-House: Ahhhh, just another liberal politician keeping alive the basic beliefs of the Democratic Party.

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2014-06-12 12:48:33 PM  

DrPainMD: Headso: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

are those "news accounts" from right wing blogs?

http://www.ny1.com/content/news/78886/hundreds-protest-mayor-s-plan- to -end-8th-grade-social-promotion/

This took about 5 seconds to google. Check out the video.


So because black people are at a protest in NY it relates to kicking all blacks off a school board in Texas? Are you smoking the good stuff?
 
2014-06-12 12:52:19 PM  
Look at all these firemen at this fire! Firemen must cause fires! Derp!
 
2014-06-12 01:00:43 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I don't respect racists whether they're upfront about it or couch it behind code words and "I'm not a racist, you're the racist for thinking I'm being racist!"



Would a racist fireman who saves a little minority girl's life from a building be worth of some respect?  I say yes.  Anyone who says no is going full retard in their attempt to prove how much more against racism they are than someone else.

Respect is a sliding scale. There is always room for it to go lower (picture the racist you think you have zero respect for, and now picture him as a child molester too.  Do you think even less of him now?)

You and others don't need to be so obsessed with being against racism that you throw basic logic out the window too.
 
2014-06-12 01:06:22 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: If she was a black woman pointing out the same dysfunctional problems, to a white school board it would not be called racist.

It would be called "keeping it real."

Farkers, are so conditioned to jump,the real problems never get addressed.

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Someone dared challenge a black person's job performance.


Wow, you either really believe this stuff or you're one of those paid trolls I keep hearing about.

She did not mention any problems in the linked article or the original source.   Here's the audio. You'll find the second clip has the quote in question, but the rest is rife with racism by her and the others in the party ("only black people live in section 8 housing", "it's free housing", "I'm not politically correct when it comes to blacks").

Go ahead, listen to the whole thing and defend it.  It'll be fun to watch.

Is this where I put an image? How do I get paid to troll like you?
 
2014-06-12 01:07:25 PM  

Smackledorfer: Would a racist fireman who saves a little minority girl's life from a building be worth of some respect?  I say yes.  Anyone who says no is going full retard in their attempt to prove how much more against racism they are than someone else.

Respect is a sliding scale. There is always room for it to go lower (picture the racist you think you have zero respect for, and now picture him as a child molester too.  Do you think even less of him now?)

You and others don't need to be so obsessed with being against racism that you throw basic logic out the window too.


This is completely hypothetical, but your "racist fireman" who "saves a little minority girl's life" would just be doing his job, maybe even reluctantly. So f*ck that guy. The non-hateful firemen would get my respect.  As you said, it's a sliding scale.

Thanks for inventing Asshole Fireman.  How far down this rickety stairwell do you care to venture?
 
2014-06-12 01:20:35 PM  

Smackledorfer: Coco LaFemme: I don't respect racists whether they're upfront about it or couch it behind code words and "I'm not a racist, you're the racist for thinking I'm being racist!"


Would a racist fireman who saves a little minority girl's life from a building be worth of some respect?  I say yes.  Anyone who says no is going full retard in their attempt to prove how much more against racism they are than someone else.

Respect is a sliding scale. There is always room for it to go lower (picture the racist you think you have zero respect for, and now picture him as a child molester too.  Do you think even less of him now?)

You and others don't need to be so obsessed with being against racism that you throw basic logic out the window too.


The problem here is your using the word 'respect'. Racism, openly embraced, is *not* a cause for a sudden fount of respect to well up in the breast. Racism, openly embraced as by this woman in particular, is just her being a coont. What you might feel is relief in id-ing another piece of white trash, but surely not respect. She's not owning it as in, "I am a racist!". I'll lay you any amount of money that if you asked her, even after all this, if she was racist she'd say 'nope'.
 
2014-06-12 01:21:09 PM  
How about this logic Smackledorfer?  Yes there is racism around the world, but I might hold the US to a higher standard than say Nigeria.  Especially after I have been told by members of SCOTUS that there is no racism in America.  So which is it?

/Omega male or man?
 
2014-06-12 01:33:19 PM  

gottagopee: . Racism, openly embraced, is *not* a cause for a sudden fount of respect to well up in the breast.


So saying you have more respect for them than someoen who hides it is a "sudden fount of respect"?


Very black and white worldview you have.


Paschal: Especially after I have been told by members of SCOTUS that there is no racism in America.


No you haven't.
 
2014-06-12 01:42:01 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of people's reaction to that speech.  I think it's a good thing that society is starting to stand up to those who espouse backwards and intolerant views.

It's perfectly reasonable for the citizens of a city to be outraged and call for the ouster of a city councilwoman (in a city that's 35% black) who makes the statement that black people shouldn't be on the school board, and then reiterates her support for that statement.


I, too, can't wait until society at large starts calling out all racists and showing them the door.

They can all get run out on a rail, Sterling, Jackson, Sharpton, Bundy, Hillary, Biden - all of them.
 
2014-06-12 01:53:32 PM  

glmorrs1: glmorrs1: The Homer Tax: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

My sister and brother in law are both teachers at different schools in relatively affluent, white area (Northern VA). Social Promotion is very real and rampant here, the fear is usually from Braeydyn and Dakotas daddy's lawyers, not from "black protesters."

There are major problems with the public schooling system in this country, and said issues are indifferent to race. Your repeated desire to ascribe them to one race at the exclusion of others is why people think of you as a racist.

This. My dad is a teacher in south Alabama in a mostly white (around 60%) school district, and while he may sometimes have racist tendencies (he's against affirmative action, black history month, and doesn't understand why "being proud to be white" makes people uncomfortable, but he has black friends, so totes not racist(sarcasm)), he'll straight up tell you that the majority of students he has to raise grades for so they can move on to the next grade are the white kids. He's always saying how he wishes the white students had the dedication and drive of the Hispanic and black students. You know, the poor and economically challenged minorities that want to get the hell out of the hood and trailer parks, while the white kids take pride in being ignorant rednecks and white trash.

I mean, it comes off a little racist when my dad says it, but based on my experience in a mostly white suburban school system growing up, he's right. Most of the kids that couldn't hack it and had to get their grades bumped up so they didn't ...


Why that explains everything? A unified field theory od social integration and academic achievement.

So your dad will explain the high dropout among black males rates, and early pregnancy among Hispanic girls (that remove them from the labor market when the white girl is advancing in her career or profession) as the response of lazy white people.

Is this why fireman and civil service exams are routinely tossed out, when not enough black firemen fail to pass.

If only the answer was so simple that it was all institutional racism, that seems to let Asian and Indian students slip by. Or the facts the "black" Africans score higher in academic.
You would think we are able to spot and stop these bastards from using our educational system to get ahead.
 
2014-06-12 02:17:10 PM  

theknuckler_33: And you people say you aren't racist.


You people?
 
2014-06-12 02:46:01 PM  

liam76: So saying you have more respect for them than someoen who hides it is a "sudden fount of respect"?


You're right, it could have been gradual or even inherent respect.
 
2014-06-12 02:46:23 PM  

thamike: Smackledorfer: Would a racist fireman who saves a little minority girl's life from a building be worth of some respect?  I say yes.  Anyone who says no is going full retard in their attempt to prove how much more against racism they are than someone else.

Respect is a sliding scale. There is always room for it to go lower (picture the racist you think you have zero respect for, and now picture him as a child molester too.  Do you think even less of him now?)

You and others don't need to be so obsessed with being against racism that you throw basic logic out the window too.

This is completely hypothetical, but your "racist fireman" who "saves a little minority girl's life" would just be doing his job, maybe even reluctantly. So f*ck that guy. The non-hateful firemen would get my respect.  As you said, it's a sliding scale.

Thanks for inventing Asshole Fireman.  How far down this rickety stairwell do you care to venture?


There aren't racist firemen?

That is an interesting assertion.

And firefighters don't get props for risking their lives because it is their job? Odd.

Fyi the example was to show the way respect has a sliding scale, not to create a real person. I thought it was clearly hypothetical.
 
2014-06-12 02:48:08 PM  

Paschal: How about this logic Smackledorfer?  Yes there is racism around the world, but I might hold the US to a higher standard than say Nigeria.  Especially after I have been told by members of SCOTUS that there is no racism in America.  So which is it?

/Omega male or man?


I don't understand the 'which is it' question. What were my options there?
 
2014-06-12 02:49:58 PM  

Smackledorfer: And firefighters don't get props for risking their lives because it is their job? Odd.


Not your hypothetical racist fireman, no.  Like I said, f*ck that guy, he's imaginary as far as your concerned, and I don't have much respect for your imagination in the first place.
 
2014-06-12 02:51:02 PM  

thamike: liam76: So saying you have more respect for them than someoen who hides it is a "sudden fount of respect"?

You're right, it could have been gradual or even inherent respect.


Yeah I have inherently more respect for honest people then liars.

Most peopel feel the same.

But bring up racism and the SJW streak of fark comes out and all racists are exactly the same and there can be no variation on views towards them unless you are a hate filled bigot who is also racist.
 
2014-06-12 03:08:52 PM  

Smackledorfer: links136: Damnhippyfreak: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?


I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.

And much like getting 'jewed', a lot of the negative stereotypes are result from the treatment of europeans. As in Jews were usually segregated to certain professions, such as bankers and accounting, and therefore became dominant in the position.  Therefore, you get 'jewed'.

Jewish people self segregated into banking afaik. The old and new testament have very different concepts of loaning.


Actually Jews went into banking because A) they were typically not allowed to own land in Europe so services and lending was the only way to make a living and B) usury laws are not different between the old and new testament.
 
2014-06-12 03:13:52 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Derpity do da


So when did the black guy steal your girlfriend?

And what is with all the "whiteknights" all having handles with Dr.? Dr.Driedel excluded of course.
 
2014-06-12 03:17:00 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: B) usury laws are not different between the old and new testament.


I thought the difference was Christians weren't supposed to be collecting interest from anyone on loans, while Jews were allowed to in select circumstances?

I haven't the time to do research atm, so I will retract my statement and stand corrected.
 
2014-06-12 03:19:35 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Derpity do da

So when did the black guy steal your girlfriend?

And what is with all the "whiteknights" all having handles with Dr.? Dr.Driedel excluded of course.


They are compensating for their pathetic lives by creating an alternate reality where they are doctors. It is similar to the Fark engineer phenomenon
 
2014-06-12 03:20:39 PM  

thamike: Smackledorfer: And firefighters don't get props for risking their lives because it is their job? Odd.

Not your hypothetical racist fireman, no.  Like I said, f*ck that guy, he's imaginary as far as your concerned, and I don't have much respect for your imagination in the first place.


Fortunately my imagination never asked for your respect.

I find it odd you reject my hypothetical outright while at the same time clearly weighing in on it.

So just to be clear then:

A regular fireman you would respect, right?
A racist one you would not respect any more or less than a racist mailman?


Again, my point is that, imo anyways, respect goes on a sliding scale, and respect for another human doesn't immediately go to zero (or some negative value, set up your number line as you wish) upon them holding a single ignorant belief. It falls, but not completely upon the basis of a single thing.
Even within bigots there are massive differences in belief from one to another. I wouldn't rank them all equally.
 
2014-06-12 03:20:54 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: Sgeo: TuteTibiImperes: serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of people's reaction to that speech.  I think it's a good thing that society is starting to stand up to those who espouse backwards and intolerant views.

It's perfectly reasonable for the citizens of a city to be outraged and call for the ouster of a city councilwoman (in a city that's 35% black) who makes the statement that black people shouldn't be on the school board, and then reiterates her support for that statement.

I think serial_crusher wasn't making a freedom of speech argument, just saying that the citizens should, if they want, be voting her out or ensuring she gets fired (I'm not sure which is the case here), not pressuring her into 'resigning'.

So if I take office on July 1 2014 for a 2 year term, I can say what ever the hell I wish without retribution for 24 months?

Yeah, I don't think so. We have methods, even at the city council level, to remove those who espouse discrimination when it comes to race, color, or creed. Even in mid term.

Any, and I do mean ANY, vote she casts from here on out (as well as previous ones) is subject to review, and one might think nullification, based on her discriminatory views. She also opens up the city (and by default the taxpayers) to lawsuits.


And thats why politicians in these situations offen have to resign. The basically have a sit down with the city attorney and it goes like this either you resign or you recuse your self from any vote of significance.
 
2014-06-12 03:28:47 PM  

Smackledorfer: All2morrowsparTs: B) usury laws are not different between the old and new testament.

I thought the difference was Christians weren't supposed to be collecting interest from anyone on loans, while Jews were allowed to in select circumstances?

I haven't the time to do research atm, so I will retract my statement and stand corrected.


I am too lazy to do the research but I believe that was the stance that the Church took for a time, but it was "building a fence around the law" rather than the law itself.
 
2014-06-12 03:31:20 PM  

liam76: gottagopee: . Racism, openly embraced, is *not* a cause for a sudden fount of respect to well up in the breast.

So saying you have more respect for them than someoen who hides it is a "sudden fount of respect"?


Very black and white worldview you have.


Paschal: Especially after I have been told by members of SCOTUS that there is no racism in America.

No you haven't.


I have zero respect for either. And her 'open honesty' isn't. The only thing she's honest about is wanting everything her own way. As I stated, she hasn't stood and openly proclaimed YES I AM A RACIST AND PROUD OF IT!! All she's done is whine.
 
2014-06-12 04:05:50 PM  

thamike: Smackledorfer: Would a racist fireman who saves a little minority girl's life from a building be worth of some respect?  I say yes.  Anyone who says no is going full retard in their attempt to prove how much more against racism they are than someone else.

Respect is a sliding scale. There is always room for it to go lower (picture the racist you think you have zero respect for, and now picture him as a child molester too.  Do you think even less of him now?)

You and others don't need to be so obsessed with being against racism that you throw basic logic out the window too.

This is completely hypothetical, but your "racist fireman" who "saves a little minority girl's life" would just be doing his job, maybe even reluctantly. So f*ck that guy. The non-hateful firemen would get my respect.  As you said, it's a sliding scale.

Thanks for inventing Asshole Fireman.  How far down this rickety stairwell do you care to venture?


At the EMS service I work at there's an EMT who is incredibly racist, and even went so far as to call one of our responders and his mother n-bomb lovers because the responder has a black stepfather. It's disgusting he still works here and I refuse to work with the asshole because I can't trust him to give the same level of care to a minority patient as he would to a white patient.

/Not so CSB
 
2014-06-12 04:12:56 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: glmorrs1: glmorrs1: The Homer Tax: DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.

My sister and brother in law are both teachers at different schools in relatively affluent, white area (Northern VA). Social Promotion is very real and rampant here, the fear is usually from Braeydyn and Dakotas daddy's lawyers, not from "black protesters."

There are major problems with the public schooling system in this country, and said issues are indifferent to race. Your repeated desire to ascribe them to one race at the exclusion of others is why people think of you as a racist.

This. My dad is a teacher in south Alabama in a mostly white (around 60%) school district, and while he may sometimes have racist tendencies (he's against affirmative action, black history month, and doesn't understand why "being proud to be white" makes people uncomfortable, but he has black friends, so totes not racist(sarcasm)), he'll straight up tell you that the majority of students he has to raise grades for so they can move on to the next grade are the white kids. He's always saying how he wishes the white students had the dedication and drive of the Hispanic and black students. You know, the poor and economically challenged minorities that want to get the hell out of the hood and trailer parks, while the white kids take pride in being ignorant rednecks and white trash.

I mean, it comes off a little racist when my dad says it, but based on my experience in a mostly white suburban school system growing up, he's right. Most of the kids that couldn't hack it and had to get their grades bumped up so they didn't ...

Why that explains everything? A unified field theory od social integration and academic achievement.

So your dad will explain the high dropout among black males rates, and early pregnancy among Hispanic girls (that remove them from the labor market when the white girl is advancing in her career or profession) as the response of lazy white people.

Is this why fireman and civil service exams are routinely tossed out, when not enough black firemen fail to pass.

If only the answer was so simple that it was all institutional racism, that seems to let Asian and Indian students slip by. Or the facts the "black" Africans score higher in academic.
You would think we are able to spot and stop these bastards from using our educational system to get ahead.


Whatever, bro. Don't you have anything better to do than race-bait on fark? No sheets to bleach? No large wooden crosses to start soaking in lighter fluid?

/and fark you for choosing one of the most lighthearted and comical Superman villains for your handle
 
2014-06-12 04:22:13 PM  
I would ask her to clarify her remarks. If she's going to stand by her claim that the black members of the board are hindering progress, then I want to know specifically what she means. Maybe she works with a bunch of Sheila Jackson Lees or Al Sharptons. Maybe she wasn't being racist ... maybe she was just plainly speaking.
 
2014-06-12 05:28:18 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Is this why fireman and civil service exams are routinely tossed out, when not enough black firemen fail to pass.

If only the answer was so simple that it was all institutional racism, that seems to let Asian and Indian students slip by. Or the facts the "black" Africans score higher in academic.



Hmm, if black Africans succeed where African-Americans fail, that would suggest the latter is being held back by their white ancestry.

/You can imagine the hardships I have had to overcome with two white parents, not even counting the yearly sunburn.
 
2014-06-12 06:27:44 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: Smackledorfer: Hiro-ACiD: Or, y'know, most of us just don't make racist remarks or think that way to begin with.

/there's a whole world outside of America, subby should try to see it sometime

ROFLMAO.

You don't think the rest of the world is racist? Which bits? Europe where countries pass laws banning headscarves? Maybe go further east to where genocides have occurred? No racist Germans either (not godwinning, they have a lot of issues with their turkish underclass).  Africa, where genocide occurs based on both ethnicity and religion?   Maybe South Americans aren't racist, I dunno.

/wipes tears from his eyes

Mmm, so because bad things it's okay to be racist and carry hatred in your heart. Good luck with that.

/wipes shiat from his shoe


Subby here, so I am a racist who carries hatred in my heart for posting a link to this article with this headline, please explain to me why you think that.
 
2014-06-12 06:48:03 PM  

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What's going on is this thread?

 
2014-06-12 07:04:21 PM  

gottagopee: I have zero respect for either.


Yeah, black and white world view.

Once a racist and you are automatically in the exact same group as every other group and there can be no distinction.
 
2014-06-12 10:11:23 PM  

liam76: gottagopee: I have zero respect for either.

Yeah, black and white world view.

Once a racist and you are automatically in the exact same group as every other group and there can be no distinction.


...because there are grades of racism which are inherently acceptable, and as such we shouldn't be polarized against racism automatically because of subjective and arbitrary boundaries?

Racism should not be tolerated. Period. What distinction would you make, exactly, which would make some form of racism acceptable? Where's your line? I can almost hear it - "hey, off-color jokes about kikes & darkies is fine - but, damn it, no killing or enslaving them, because that's racist!"

Defend it. Don't just whine about it. Quantify the "distinction" you feel must be made - what perceived quantity of racism is acceptable to you?
 
2014-06-12 10:33:18 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?


Maybe the GOP is taking their narrative that being gay is a choice and thought they'd try it out with being black is now a choice as well.
 
2014-06-13 12:00:39 AM  
"What is on the tape is nothing more than me stating my honest opinion"

Well yes exactly, that is actually the point here.
 
2014-06-13 06:50:22 AM  

FormlessOne: liam76: gottagopee: I have zero respect for either.

Yeah, black and white world view.

Once a racist and you are automatically in the exact same group as every other group and there can be no distinction.

...because there are grades of racism which are inherently acceptable, and as such we shouldn't be polarized against racism automatically because of subjective and arbitrary boundaries?

Racism should not be tolerated. Period. What distinction would you make, exactly, which would make some form of racism acceptable? Where's your line? I can almost hear it - "hey, off-color jokes about kikes & darkies is fine - but, damn it, no killing or enslaving them, because that's racist!"

Defend it. Don't just whine about it. Quantify the "distinction" you feel must be made - what perceived quantity of racism is acceptable to you?


Saying one thing is worse than another doesn't mean one is 'acceptable'.

The black and white view you are arguing for here puts a guy who makes a racist joke in the same category of respect as a person who lynched a person for race.

And btw if you want to not 'tolerate' racism, isn't that a lot easier with people who are up front about it?
 
2014-06-13 09:01:46 AM  

FormlessOne: Defend it. Don't just whine about it. Quantify the "distinction" you feel must be made - what perceived quantity of racism is acceptable to you?


Is it racist to say that blacks are generally more athletic than whites? It is. Is that wrong?
 
2014-06-13 11:19:12 AM  

Smackledorfer: A regular fireman you would respect, right?
A racist one you would not respect any more or less than a racist mailman?


Correct.
 
2014-06-13 11:21:58 AM  

Geoff Peterson: FormlessOne: Defend it. Don't just whine about it. Quantify the "distinction" you feel must be made - what perceived quantity of racism is acceptable to you?

Is it racist to say that blacks are generally more athletic than whites? It is. Is that wrong?


It's not racist to posit that one race is generally more athletic than the other.  It's merely speaking in terms of race.  It would be racist to try to keep one race out of athletics because of it, though.  Thankfully, that doesn't happen so much anymore.
 
2014-06-13 11:29:17 AM  

liam76: Yeah I have inherently more respect for honest people then liars.

Most peopel feel the same.

But bring up racism and the SJW streak of fark comes out and all racists are exactly the same and there can be no variation on views towards them unless you are a hate filled bigot who is also racist.


And I have inherently no respect for racists, no matter how loud they are about it or to what degree of racial hatred they will act upon.  They could be racist nurses or racist axe murderers.  Despite there being a sharp difference as to the level of criminally horrific between the two, my respect ended at 'racist.'  Then to what degree it goes further downhill depends upon the actions of the racist in question.  See how that works?
 
2014-06-13 11:52:13 AM  

thamike: And I have inherently no respect for racists, no matter how loud they are about it or to what degree of racial hatred they will act upon.  They could be racist nurses or racist axe murderers.  Despite there being a sharp difference as to the level of criminally horrific between the two, my respect ended at 'racist.'  Then to what degree it goes further downhill depends upon the actions of the racist in question.


So lets say "no respect" puts them at respect level "0".

If they do something really horrific that puts tham at a "negative" respect level, for the sake of argument lets call it "-5".

"0" is still more than "-5", so yes you do have more respect for one type of racist than another.

See how that works?
 
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