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2014-06-12 10:20:22 AM  

The Homer Tax: Here's the problem though, there's no incentive for holding kids back, there's no incentive for giving them bad grades, there's no incentive for not letting them graduate. Schools are evaluated on these things, and if they hold kids back it's viewed as a failing of the schools, not the kids or their parents.


If there was a set test they had to pass to get to the next grade it is harde fro schools to just pass them because it is "easier".

lockers: This is why you are an idiot and why race is still an issue in education. It's institutional even if people refuse to admit it


You should go read his comment in context.

Somebody was claiming black parents complaining abotu kids not getting promoted tot he next grade was causing big problems. He was pointing out that issue effects schools regardless of race.
 
2014-06-12 10:23:07 AM  
At what point do we just kick the southern half of the US out of the country so the rest of us can have a first-world nation?
 
2014-06-12 10:26:08 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Smackledorfer: cameroncrazy1984: Smackledorfer: The Homer Tax: For what it's worth, I give this idiotic hag more credit than most racists. At least she's owning it and being honest about her hatred. That means it's there and you don't have to deal with her playing the "I'm not racist! You're racist for saying in racist!" Game.

She's vile, repugnant, and hateful...but she's got my respect just a little more than racists who pretend they're not.

Ditto. I like that society frowns on racism enough that bigots know they should hide. At the same time you gotta respect a person who owns their views and words.

No I don't.

Do you believe you can respect one aspect of a person and despise the rest?

Can I respect an athlete's accomplishment even if he is an asshole?

Sure, but I don't have to respect that someone is honest about their racist beliefs. That's a stupid thing to respect.


So you would respect her more if she lied?

Look, bigotry is horrible. But just because someone is a bigot does not make them 100% bad. With that in mind, it is perfectly reasonable for the level of respect to go up or down based upon other aspects of a bigot.

A bigot can fight homelessnes. A bigot can work a soup kitchen. A bigot can protect wildlife. A bigot can serve in the military (which does deserve respect even though most recent wars are crap). A bigot can protest for peace too.

A bigot can even believe group x is inferior to y but still overcome that on an individual basis when dealing with others.

I guess I have said it every way I can.
 
2014-06-12 10:27:58 AM  

liam76: You should go read his comment in context.

Somebody was claiming black parents complaining abotu kids not getting promoted tot he next grade was causing big problems. He was pointing out that issue effects schools regardless of race


Even in context, if he thinks the problems with schools don't have a racial element, then he is clearly mistaken. segregation is as much an issue today as it was in the 50's. Schools are funded geographically. So economically disadvantaged groups get economically worse education. So, yes, their is a racial element to the problems with schools due to historical reasons that have not been addressed.
 
2014-06-12 10:29:07 AM  

menschenfresser: At what point do we just kick the southern half of the US out of the country so the rest of us can have a first-world nation?


Be patient. The 'browns' are taking over the southwest slowly but surely. Another decade and it should be fun to watch.
 
2014-06-12 10:31:14 AM  

Smackledorfer: Fart_Machine: Smackledorfer: cameroncrazy1984: Smackledorfer: The Homer Tax: For what it's worth, I give this idiotic hag more credit than most racists. At least she's owning it and being honest about her hatred. That means it's there and you don't have to deal with her playing the "I'm not racist! You're racist for saying in racist!" Game.

She's vile, repugnant, and hateful...but she's got my respect just a little more than racists who pretend they're not.

Ditto. I like that society frowns on racism enough that bigots know they should hide. At the same time you gotta respect a person who owns their views and words.

No I don't.

Do you believe you can respect one aspect of a person and despise the rest?

Can I respect an athlete's accomplishment even if he is an asshole?

You've set the bar pretty low for accomplishments.

Feats of athleticism, or honesty?

Because honesty is something a great deal of those who run for office lack. The country would be better off if they were honest. How is that not something worthy of acknowledgement?

And, to repeat, I still want this woman out of office. I respect that she is honest despite knowing it will hurt her chances of keeping it.


Getting recorded making a racist comment in a private conversation and not denying it versus running on the platform to get all the blacks off the school board. Even by honesty standards it's pretty low.
 
2014-06-12 10:33:10 AM  
Some people appear to take "white-knighting" way too literally.
 
2014-06-12 10:35:13 AM  

IlGreven: Smackledorfer: Ditto. I like that society frowns on racism enough that bigots know they should hide.

Why?  I only ask that because, if you replace "racism" with "homosexuality" and "bigots" with "gays", you'd fit right in with the bigots 60 years ago.

/The pendulum has swung hard.  And it's just as wrong now as it was then.


Yes.  Because being intolerant of racism is exactly like being intolerant of gays.  Like racism is an immutable characteristic that the rest of us will just have to buck up and learn to accept.
 
2014-06-12 10:37:28 AM  

unyon: Because being intolerant of racism is exactly like being intolerant of gays


Pretty much
 
2014-06-12 10:39:39 AM  

lockers: segregation is as much an issue today as it was in the 50's.



haha, ok.

Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in. My middle school was mostly black, my first highschool was near 50%. In college I had two black guys in my fraternity. I don;t say that to pretend it is perfect or there is no racial problem, but to highlight how profoundly stupid or dishonest it is to try and say ti is as bad as it was in the 50's.

If you want to stand behind that statement you can be taken as seriously as people who claim education for black peopel is as bad as it was during slavery.

lockers: Schools are funded geographically. So economically disadvantaged groups get economically worse education.


I tis only "as bad" as the 50's if you think all black people are from economically disadvantaged areas and all white people aren't.


lockers: So, yes, their is a racial element to the problems with schools due to historical reasons that have not been addressed


Whihc isn;t realted at all tot he problems he was discussing, but I am pretty sure givent he above comments you can't be taken seriously.

Unlees you can fix that this is a waste of time.
 
2014-06-12 10:40:38 AM  

Fart_Machine: Getting recorded making a racist comment in a private conversation and not denying it versus running on the platform to get all the blacks off the school board. Even by honesty standards it's pretty low.


fair point
 
2014-06-12 10:40:40 AM  

lockers: The Homer Tax: lockers: The Homer Tax: There are major problems with the public schooling system in this country, and said issues are indifferent to race. Your repeated desire to ascribe them to one race at the exclusion of others is why people think of you as a racist.

If you don't recognize the fact that most cities are still segregated then there is really no hope for you.

What the fark are you talking about and what does it have to do with anything I said?

This is why you are an idiot and why race is still an issue in education. It's institutional even if people refuse to admit it.


If you spent less energy calling me an "idiot" and more energy participating In the discussion, you wouldn't look like you have no idea what you are talking about.

I was disagreeing with someone who cited issues with the school system that were a result of both students and administrators being black.

If you want to present a couple issues with schooling that can be attributed to "blackness" when controlling for the myriad of other factors, most notably SES, I would love to hear them, the original guy left the thread PDQ when challenged.
 
2014-06-12 10:40:55 AM  

liam76: Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in.


So you grew up poor. Bully for you.
 
2014-06-12 10:42:12 AM  

lockers: unyon: Because being intolerant of racism is exactly like being intolerant of gays

Pretty much


wtf
 
2014-06-12 10:42:50 AM  

lockers: liam76: You should go read his comment in context.

Somebody was claiming black parents complaining abotu kids not getting promoted tot he next grade was causing big problems. He was pointing out that issue effects schools regardless of race

Even in context, if he thinks the problems with schools don't have a racial element, then he is clearly mistaken. segregation is as much an issue today as it was in the 50's. Schools are funded geographically. So economically disadvantaged groups get economically worse education. So, yes, their is a racial element to the problems with schools due to historical reasons that have not been addressed.


That's not the context of my comment. Stop looking for people to call idiots and start participating in the discussion.

Right now you're agreeing with someone who said "social promotion is something that only exists because of black people."
 
2014-06-12 10:44:27 AM  

liam76: lockers: segregation is as much an issue today as it was in the 50's.


haha, ok.

Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in. My middle school was mostly black, my first highschool was near 50%. In college I had two black guys in my fraternity. I don;t say that to pretend it is perfect or there is no racial problem, but to highlight how profoundly stupid or dishonest it is to try and say ti is as bad as it was in the 50's.

If you want to stand behind that statement you can be taken as seriously as people who claim education for black peopel is as bad as it was during slavery.

lockers: Schools are funded geographically. So economically disadvantaged groups get economically worse education.

I tis only "as bad" as the 50's if you think all black people are from economically disadvantaged areas and all white people aren't.


lockers: So, yes, their is a racial element to the problems with schools due to historical reasons that have not been addressed

Whihc isn;t realted at all tot he problems he was discussing, but I am pretty sure givent he above comments you can't be taken seriously.

Unlees you can fix that this is a waste of time.


Dude, either get off mobile, calm down, or take your medication.

Even I don't butcher comments this badly.
 
2014-06-12 10:45:25 AM  

lockers: liam76: Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in.

So you grew up poor. Bully for you.


Got it.

You are stupid (or racist) enough tothink all black peopel are poor.
 
2014-06-12 10:45:30 AM  

utharda: Think about this.   This is 25 miles SE of the 3rd or 4th largest city in the country.  (Houston proper being liberal enough to have a Lesbian mayor and a recent trans rights bill passed.)  10 Miles SE of the Johnson Space Flight Center.

Coincidentally Ron PAUL!'s congressional district.

Well I just depressed myself.  2 more years and I can GTFO.   Hopefully I wont need a passport back to the US before then.


it also has by far, the worst schools in the area and the highest crime (for the rural areas between Hou and GAL) I wanted to move there because it's close to the coast and cheap. My wife set me straight on that real quick.
 
2014-06-12 10:45:54 AM  

lockers: liam76: Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in.

So you grew up poor. Bully for you.



Are you truly ignorant, or just threadshiatting?
 
2014-06-12 10:47:56 AM  
Hm; a bit more background -- apparently, she's too racist for one of the local white cops.

There have been other shenanigans previously. There's also about 70MB of a webcast radio program archived here that I lack time to listen through to see if it has her spouting other idiocies.
 
2014-06-12 10:48:21 AM  

The Homer Tax: Right now you're agreeing with someone who said "social promotion is something that only exists because of black people."


No, right now I am disagreeing that their isn't a racial element to why education sucks. The difference between really good public schools and bad public schools is extremely economically divided. Results of going to a bad school has well known economic outcomes. The reality is those same economic reasons have a large correlation to race. The problem isn't social promotion, but it certainly tracks race.
 
2014-06-12 10:50:22 AM  

vicioushobbit: Dude, either get off mobile, calm down, or take your medication


Yeah, I am not going to take time to make sure my typing is great (well, in this case passable) when somebody is claiming segregation is worse today in education than the 50's.

Probably should have left it at haha, no.
 
2014-06-12 10:52:17 AM  

Lord_Baull: lockers: liam76: Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in.

So you grew up poor. Bully for you.


Are you truly ignorant, or just threadshiatting?


He toted out segregation isn't an issue because I went to school with "black people". I went to school with all sorts of ethnic people, but that doesn't mean my mostly white class didn't get better schooling then the kids who grew up 15 miles north of me.
 
2014-06-12 10:52:22 AM  
When will morons get the clue that just because what comes out of their heads is their "opinion" doesn't mean it's true, or has worth, or isn't stupid, or is just plain wrong? Is it too much to ask that thinking happen before saying?

/guess it is
 
2014-06-12 10:53:22 AM  

liam76: vicioushobbit: Dude, either get off mobile, calm down, or take your medication

Yeah, I am not going to take time to make sure my typing is great (well, in this case passable) when somebody is claiming segregation is worse today in education than the 50's.

Probably should have left it at haha, no.


*shrug* your call.  People tend to understand more if information is displayed in a legible manner.  If you give them the chance to deflect your arguments with critiques of your writing ability, you lose opportunity for actual debate and slapdown.

Who am I kidding? They are just waiting for you to post anything so they can troll harder.

/I'm done.
 
2014-06-12 10:53:33 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Maybe she didn't mean people with black skin, maybe she meant a family of people called the Blacks. You know, like Sirius Black out of the Harry Potter films. Don't be so quick to judge!


Now I don't care who you are, that's funny.

/you were already favorited so no points for you (een if well deserved)
 
2014-06-12 10:54:17 AM  

thenewmissus: Wyalt Derp: Maybe she didn't mean people with black skin, maybe she meant a family of people called the Blacks. You know, like Sirius Black out of the Harry Potter films. Don't be so quick to judge!

Now I don't care who you are, that's funny.

/you were already favorited so no points for you (een if well deserved)


even (FTFM).
 
2014-06-12 10:55:32 AM  

liam76: somebody is claiming segregation is worse today in education than the 50's.


No, I said it wasn't better. Just because it isn't written into law doesn't mean it still isn't reality.
 
2014-06-12 10:57:00 AM  

lockers: He toted out segregation isn't an issue because I went to school with "black people".


No I pointed out, what is obvious to everyone that isn't fucntionally retarted or completely full of shiat, that segregation isn't as bad as the 50's.

I also clearly spelled out the underlined bit below.

Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in. My middle school was mostly black, my first highschool was near 50%. In college I had two black guys in my fraternity. I don;t say that to pretend it is perfect or there is no racial problem, but to highlight how profoundly stupid or dishonest it is to try and say ti is as bad as it was in the 50's. :

So the only question in my mind is are you lying or stupid?
 
2014-06-12 10:58:54 AM  

lockers: Lord_Baull: lockers: liam76: Outside kindergarten (catholic school) I had black people in every class I was in.

So you grew up poor. Bully for you.


Are you truly ignorant, or just threadshiatting?

He toted out segregation isn't an issue because I went to school with "black people". I went to school with all sorts of ethnic people, but that doesn't mean my mostly white class didn't get better schooling then the kids who grew up 15 miles north of me.



Do you understand segregation and quality schooling are two different issues?
 
2014-06-12 11:01:32 AM  
All this talk of social promotion and standardized tests... makes me think.

We have charter schools, private schools, public schools, home schools...

Why don't we have one standard of achievement in education... all the way up through undergraduate-level studies?  I realize that for the most extreme levels of competence, you can't just test knowledge like that, but it should work reasonably well.  Everyone works at their own pace, and if you don't need something, you don't have it.   What if society had something like the Civilization cultural achievements system, but for educational acheivement?  There's no social promotion, there's no grades, just passing the tests and demonstrating functional competence up to a certain level.  The tests would be free up to 3 times for adults, and unlimited free shots before you turn 18 (subsidies for the poor, too, natch).

And it doesn't stop or begin with official schooling.  Achievements would be open to acquisition to all people, for their whole life.  Your 4 year old can already read a lot of words?  Good!  Get him tested, and he starts at a certain level relative to his peers.  Retiree and want to keep your mind active?  Grandpa can learn advanced trig for his word working... grandma can learn botany in her garden.  The struggling single mother can earn the equivalent of a college degree with self-study.  Skills acquired during work could be demonstrated by testing... no more having to pick apart people's work history.

This also breaks the stranglehold on degrees and higher education.  You don't need a college degree to prove you know something anymore, and your school/GPA isn't a proxy anymore for your worth as a prospective employee (and it never was a good proxy in the first place).

If only we could prevent politicization of it, it would be great.  Right now, we'd just have something like the local school boards, except it'd be a nationwide clusterfark of epic proportions once it got to test content.  Just like with everything else we've tried nationwide.
 
2014-06-12 11:05:36 AM  
If she was a black woman pointing out the same dysfunctional problems, to a white school board it would not be called racist.

It would be called "keeping it real."

Farkers, are so conditioned to jump,the real problems never get addressed.

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Someone dared challenge a black person's job performance.
 
2014-06-12 11:07:41 AM  
Or, y'know, most of us just don't make racist remarks or think that way to begin with.

/there's a whole world outside of America, subby should try to see it sometime
 
2014-06-12 11:09:57 AM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: If she was a black woman pointing out the same dysfunctional problems, to a white school board it would not be called racist.


One of the "dysfunctional problems" was being "black.
 
2014-06-12 11:16:06 AM  

Clever Neologism: All this talk of social promotion and standardized tests... makes me think.

We have charter schools, private schools, public schools, home schools...

Why don't we have one standard of achievement in education... all the way up through undergraduate-level studies?  I realize that for the most extreme levels of competence, you can't just test knowledge like that, but it should work reasonably well.  Everyone works at their own pace, and if you don't need something, you don't have it.   What if society had something like the Civilization cultural achievements system, but for educational acheivement?  There's no social promotion, there's no grades, just passing the tests and demonstrating functional competence up to a certain level.  The tests would be free up to 3 times for adults, and unlimited free shots before you turn 18 (subsidies for the poor, too, natch).

And it doesn't stop or begin with official schooling.  Achievements would be open to acquisition to all people, for their whole life.  Your 4 year old can already read a lot of words?  Good!  Get him tested, and he starts at a certain level relative to his peers.  Retiree and want to keep your mind active?  Grandpa can learn advanced trig for his word working... grandma can learn botany in her garden.  The struggling single mother can earn the equivalent of a college degree with self-study.  Skills acquired during work could be demonstrated by testing... no more having to pick apart people's work history.


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2014-06-12 11:16:28 AM  

PawisBetlog: starsrift: Being a racist little biatch isn't illegal. If the majority of her electorate is behind her, she can say all the vile things she wants. I guess.

It's sad, though. But that's what you have to expect from a woman.

Well done


Thanks, I try. :)
/ Some days I wonder if these things just sail over everyone's heads, or if everyone thinks they're too stupid to remark on...
 
2014-06-12 11:22:30 AM  

Hiro-ACiD: Or, y'know, most of us just don't make racist remarks or think that way to begin with.

/there's a whole world outside of America, subby should try to see it sometime


ROFLMAO.

You don't think the rest of the world is racist? Which bits? Europe where countries pass laws banning headscarves? Maybe go further east to where genocides have occurred? No racist Germans either (not godwinning, they have a lot of issues with their turkish underclass).  Africa, where genocide occurs based on both ethnicity and religion?   Maybe South Americans aren't racist, I dunno.

/wipes tears from his eyes
 
2014-06-12 11:22:43 AM  

lockers: The Homer Tax: Right now you're agreeing with someone who said "social promotion is something that only exists because of black people."

No, right now I am disagreeing that their isn't a racial element to why education sucks. The difference between really good public schools and bad public schools is extremely economically divided. Results of going to a bad school has well known economic outcomes. The reality is those same economic reasons have a large correlation to race. The problem isn't social promotion, but it certainly tracks race.


You're again missing the point. I was disagreeing with the person who said, effectively, "black people are the reason black kids are getting a poor eduction." I was saying "their race doesn't have anything to do with it."

You're trying to turn this into an affirmative action thing that I was never speaking about. I could see if from your Weeners. Calm the fark down, I'm fine with AA.

I was disagreeing with someone who said "black kids are getting a bad education because they're black" by saying "black kids are getting a bad education because they're poor."

It's all about SES, it "correlates strongly" because more black kids are poor.

Can you move the fark on now? Good lord.
 
2014-06-12 11:24:52 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: cchris_39: Is she crazy? Big cities and big city school systems have flourished under black leadership.

The results speak for themselves. It's science.

I love the smell of racism in the morning.


Smells like...Derpery.


But..I've been told that there are no racists on Fark.com, just people with different "opinions".
 
2014-06-12 11:30:00 AM  

Maud Dib: But..I've been told that there are no racists on Fark.com, just people with different "opinions".


Well, I have an inferiority complex, and a well-deserved one at that.  I'm not particularly bright, good-looking, well-spoken, well-liked, or wealthy.

So I like that FARK lets me anonymously post racist comments that annoy or upset people.  It makes my day.  You might be thinking, "What kind of worthless, pathetic assclown goes to message boards to make racist comments like some asshole"?  Well, I am.
 
2014-06-12 11:30:23 AM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: If she was a black woman pointing out the same dysfunctional problems, to a white school board it would not be called racist.

It would be called "keeping it real."

Farkers, are so conditioned to jump,the real problems never get addressed.


Someone dared challenge a black person's job performance.


mrwgifs.com
 
2014-06-12 11:31:56 AM  
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2014-06-12 11:34:21 AM  

DrPainMD: Headso: How do black people ruin a school board? you would think black people and white people would want the same things for their kids within reason.

I've read several news accounts where a school board tried to end social promotion (i.e., passing kids into the next grade even tho they didn't learn what was taught in the current grade) and being bombarded with protests. It seems like the protesters are, more often than not, black.


Ron Paul would be proud of you.
RON PAUL.
DR. RON PAUL.
 
2014-06-12 11:42:12 AM  

unyon: Clever Neologism: All this talk of social promotion and standardized tests... makes me think.

We have charter schools, private schools, public schools, home schools...

Why don't we have one standard of achievement in education... all the way up through undergraduate-level studies?  I realize that for the most extreme levels of competence, you can't just test knowledge like that, but it should work reasonably well.  Everyone works at their own pace, and if you don't need something, you don't have it.   What if society had something like the Civilization cultural achievements system, but for educational acheivement?  There's no social promotion, there's no grades, just passing the tests and demonstrating functional competence up to a certain level.  The tests would be free up to 3 times for adults, and unlimited free shots before you turn 18 (subsidies for the poor, too, natch).

And it doesn't stop or begin with official schooling.  Achievements would be open to acquisition to all people, for their whole life.  Your 4 year old can already read a lot of words?  Good!  Get him tested, and he starts at a certain level relative to his peers.  Retiree and want to keep your mind active?  Grandpa can learn advanced trig for his word working... grandma can learn botany in her garden.  The struggling single mother can earn the equivalent of a college degree with self-study.  Skills acquired during work could be demonstrated by testing... no more having to pick apart people's work history.

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*shrug* Whatever motivates people.  Seemingly silly things often work wonders.  For example, in my job, we use a  KanBan board.  It literally looks like something a grade-school teacher would use to teach project management to kids (if such a thing existed).  It works, and people get a sense of satisfaction physically moving cards on a whiteboard, and seeing a pile of "Done" cards.
 
2014-06-12 11:43:48 AM  

Smackledorfer: Hiro-ACiD: Or, y'know, most of us just don't make racist remarks or think that way to begin with.

/there's a whole world outside of America, subby should try to see it sometime

ROFLMAO.

You don't think the rest of the world is racist? Which bits? Europe where countries pass laws banning headscarves? Maybe go further east to where genocides have occurred? No racist Germans either (not godwinning, they have a lot of issues with their turkish underclass).  Africa, where genocide occurs based on both ethnicity and religion?   Maybe South Americans aren't racist, I dunno.

/wipes tears from his eyes


Mmm, so because bad things it's okay to be racist and carry hatred in your heart. Good luck with that.

/wipes shiat from his shoe
 
2014-06-12 11:45:45 AM  

Smackledorfer: menschenfresser: At what point do we just kick the southern half of the US out of the country so the rest of us can have a first-world nation?

Be patient. The 'browns' are taking over the southwest slowly but surely. Another decade and it should be fun to watch.


I, for one, welcome our Latina overlords....
 
2014-06-12 11:46:59 AM  
Damnit.

Let's try that again.

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2014-06-12 11:48:57 AM  

starsrift: PawisBetlog: starsrift: Being a racist little biatch isn't illegal. If the majority of her electorate is behind her, she can say all the vile things she wants. I guess.

It's sad, though. But that's what you have to expect from a woman.

Well done

Thanks, I try. :)
/ Some days I wonder if these things just sail over everyone's heads, or if everyone thinks they're too stupid to remark on...


Too early in the day. Everyone is still sitting on their 24 hour time-out from yesterday's MRA thread. Come back in a couple of hours when they have a chance to catch up.
 
2014-06-12 11:49:17 AM  

Hiro-ACiD: Smackledorfer: Hiro-ACiD: Or, y'know, most of us just don't make racist remarks or think that way to begin with.

/there's a whole world outside of America, subby should try to see it sometime

ROFLMAO.

You don't think the rest of the world is racist? Which bits? Europe where countries pass laws banning headscarves? Maybe go further east to where genocides have occurred? No racist Germans either (not godwinning, they have a lot of issues with their turkish underclass).  Africa, where genocide occurs based on both ethnicity and religion?   Maybe South Americans aren't racist, I dunno.

/wipes tears from his eyes

Mmm, so because bad things it's okay to be racist and carry hatred in your heart. Good luck with that.

/wipes shiat from his shoe


How the flying fark did you get from A to B on this one? At no point did I say it is ok to "be racist and carry hatred in your heart" and I think you know that I didn't.

Did you, or did you not, intend to imply that the world outside of America was somehow less racist than America?  If you did not, sorry for misreading your post (though now I have no idea what you intended to say or why it is relevant to subby in the first place).  If you did, then that is the laughable statement I am disagreeing with.
 
2014-06-12 11:58:06 AM  

Smackledorfer: How the flying fark did you get from A to B on this one? At no point did I say it is ok to "be racist and carry hatred in your heart" and I think you know that I didn't.

Did you, or did you not, intend to imply that the world outside of America was somehow less racist than America?  If you did not, sorry for misreading your post (though now I have no idea what you intended to say or why it is relevant to subby in the first place).  If you did, then that is the laughable statement I am disagreeing with.


What I read from the initial statement was more of an indictment of America's "us vs the world" mindset, and that it just won't do for a progressive society.  The response that implies that the "the world" is more racist than America, and that makes American racism just fine, is kind of a silly point to make. It's all hypothetical conjecture, but I think you missed his point completely.
 
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