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2014-06-11 11:53:30 PM
Well, that certainly is different.
 
2014-06-12 12:01:22 AM
FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?
 
2014-06-12 12:46:15 AM

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?


You do have to appreciate the gravity of the situation though.  I hear it's very unlikely that she'll ever turn back.
 
2014-06-12 12:49:08 AM
I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?
 
2014-06-12 01:32:29 AM

serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?


Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of people's reaction to that speech.  I think it's a good thing that society is starting to stand up to those who espouse backwards and intolerant views.

It's perfectly reasonable for the citizens of a city to be outraged and call for the ouster of a city councilwoman (in a city that's 35% black) who makes the statement that black people shouldn't be on the school board, and then reiterates her support for that statement.
 
2014-06-12 03:07:23 AM
Bigotry in Texas?

I wish I could be shocked by that
 
2014-06-12 03:08:21 AM

serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.


why in the world not? ESPECIALLY when it's a a politician.
 
2014-06-12 03:08:36 AM

TuteTibiImperes: serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of people's reaction to that speech.  I think it's a good thing that society is starting to stand up to those who espouse backwards and intolerant views.

It's perfectly reasonable for the citizens of a city to be outraged and call for the ouster of a city councilwoman (in a city that's 35% black) who makes the statement that black people shouldn't be on the school board, and then reiterates her support for that statement.


I think serial_crusher wasn't making a freedom of speech argument, just saying that the citizens should, if they want, be voting her out or ensuring she gets fired (I'm not sure which is the case here), not pressuring her into 'resigning'.
 
2014-06-12 03:21:00 AM
"Racism will not be tolerated on any level in the city of La Marque," said Mayor Bobby Hocking.

Is the position elected?  Then fark you, sir, you'll tolerate as much racism as they feel like dishing out.  The voters can pressure her if they want, but if  you go beyond politely expressing your own opinion then you're the one that should be chucked out.  Mayors are not the god-kings of their cities.

// Albeit the woman's likely going to have issues arguing that she's in compliance with the CRA if she's ever directly in charge of a hiring/firing and her actual co-workers on the board might come after her with a hostile work environment suit if she pushes it too hard.
 
2014-06-12 03:21:58 AM

serial_crusher: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?

You do have to appreciate the gravity of the situation though.  I hear it's very unlikely that she'll ever turn back.


"Once you go black ..."
 
2014-06-12 03:23:22 AM

Sgeo: TuteTibiImperes: serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of people's reaction to that speech.  I think it's a good thing that society is starting to stand up to those who espouse backwards and intolerant views.

It's perfectly reasonable for the citizens of a city to be outraged and call for the ouster of a city councilwoman (in a city that's 35% black) who makes the statement that black people shouldn't be on the school board, and then reiterates her support for that statement.

I think serial_crusher wasn't making a freedom of speech argument, just saying that the citizens should, if they want, be voting her out or ensuring she gets fired (I'm not sure which is the case here), not pressuring her into 'resigning'.


So if I take office on July 1 2014 for a 2 year term, I can say what ever the hell I wish without retribution for 24 months?

Yeah, I don't think so. We have methods, even at the city council level, to remove those who espouse discrimination when it comes to race, color, or creed. Even in mid term.

Any, and I do mean ANY, vote she casts from here on out (as well as previous ones) is subject to review, and one might think nullification, based on her discriminatory views. She also opens up the city (and by default the taxpayers) to lawsuits.
 
2014-06-12 03:25:21 AM

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?



I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.
 
2014-06-12 03:29:42 AM

serial_crusher: I don't like the concept of pressuring people to resign.  If you're in the power to fire them, fire them.  Probably have to wait until the next election cycle though?


Yes, the only ones who should be able to hold powerful people accountable for their statements and actions are even more powerful people.

Persons in positions of authority must not be questioned or criticized because they are superior, more intelligent people whose beliefs we are not intellectually qualified to judge.
 
2014-06-12 03:34:13 AM

Damnhippyfreak: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?

I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.


www.addictinginfo.org

That's a man, baby?

Maybe it's like turning Japanese?

/we should get an ocelot
 
2014-06-12 03:36:01 AM

Damnhippyfreak: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?


I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.


And much like getting 'jewed', a lot of the negative stereotypes are result from the treatment of europeans. As in Jews were usually segregated to certain professions, such as bankers and accounting, and therefore became dominant in the position.  Therefore, you get 'jewed'.
 
2014-06-12 03:38:17 AM

fusillade762: Damnhippyfreak: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?

I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.

[www.addictinginfo.org image 615x345]

That's a man, baby?

Maybe it's like turning Japanese?

/we should get an ocelot


Whoops! Thanks for the correction.
 
2014-06-12 03:40:06 AM
Anyone going to keep track to see if she get re-elected? Sometimes the racist voice actually represents their little precinct, even today.
 
2014-06-12 03:44:11 AM

Jim_Callahan: "Racism will not be tolerated on any level in the city of La Marque," said Mayor Bobby Hocking.

Is the position elected?  Then fark you, sir, you'll tolerate as much racism as they feel like dishing out.  The voters can pressure her if they want, but if  you go beyond politely expressing your own opinion then you're the one that should be chucked out.  Mayors are not the god-kings of their cities.

// Albeit the woman's likely going to have issues arguing that she's in compliance with the CRA if she's ever directly in charge of a hiring/firing and her actual co-workers on the board might come after her with a hostile work environment suit if she pushes it too hard.


This.

But realistically, the mayor is just proactively covering his--and the city's--ass, which is why people like this are usually "pressured" into resigning. If she has to hire/fire anyone after this, or is responsible for passing or enforcing any budget, law, regulation or other matter that requires compliance with Federal nondiscrimination standards, and ANYBODY feels they've been discriminated against--anyone, in any way, for any reason--both she and the city are going to be hammered hard by a civil rights violation lawsuit. I can hear the attorneys loading up their printers from here, with the amount of papers they'll need for all the briefs.

Because if the city keeps her on, without stepping hard all over her, they're looking at vicarious liability and respondeat superior. They know she's racist, that she is unwilling to acknowledge her fault, and unless they disavow her loudly and often, they are as liable as she is when--not if--someone brings suit against her and the city for wrongful termination, hostile work environment, discriminatory hiring practices, etc. etc.

Be nice to be a civil rights attorney in Texas right now. Cha-ching!
 
2014-06-12 03:54:22 AM

links136: Damnhippyfreak: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?


I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.

And much like getting 'jewed', a lot of the negative stereotypes are result from the treatment of europeans. As in Jews were usually segregated to certain professions, such as bankers and accounting, and therefore became dominant in the position.  Therefore, you get 'jewed'.


They're just being nubianrdly.
 
2014-06-12 03:54:57 AM
Dammit. I figured the filter would get that word but I couldn't remember for sure.
 
2014-06-12 03:56:08 AM
City council member? Really?
 
2014-06-12 03:58:45 AM
Wow. Earlier today, I read the post of another farker who predicted that soon enough, racist dog-whistling amongst politicians would be tossed out in favor of outright and blatant racist speech.

I just really didn't think it would happen later  today.
 
2014-06-12 04:21:44 AM
Some Farker quick, we need a "Separated at Birth" meme with this woman and Virginia Fox.

They both seem to harbor the same views, not too surprising their physical doppelgangers as well.
 
2014-06-12 04:29:57 AM
Good.  The idiot Conservatives that actually say what they think are far less dangerous than the ones that pretend to be half-rational.
 
2014-06-12 04:30:06 AM

fusillade762: [www.addictinginfo.org image 615x345]



She certainly turned that smile upside down.
 
2014-06-12 04:36:54 AM
Maybe she didn't mean people with black skin, maybe she meant a family of people called the Blacks. You know, like Sirius Black out of the Harry Potter films. Don't be so quick to judge!
 
2014-06-12 04:39:56 AM
 
2014-06-12 05:11:01 AM

AuBricker: serial_crusher: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?

You do have to appreciate the gravity of the situation though.  I hear it's very unlikely that she'll ever turn back.

"Once you go black ..."


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-06-12 05:11:06 AM
Council candidate Christopher Lane: "We can't move forward with those dark clouds hovering over the city."
Maybe now would be a good time to work on that careful-choice-of-words skill, candidate.
 
2014-06-12 05:19:13 AM
Think about this.   This is 25 miles SE of the 3rd or 4th largest city in the country.  (Houston proper being liberal enough to have a Lesbian mayor and a recent trans rights bill passed.)  10 Miles SE of the Johnson Space Flight Center.

Coincidentally Ron PAUL!'s congressional district.

Well I just depressed myself.  2 more years and I can GTFO.   Hopefully I wont need a passport back to the US before then.
 
2014-06-12 05:40:40 AM

Wyalt Derp: Maybe she didn't mean people with black skin, maybe she meant a family of people called the Blacks. You know, like Sirius Black out of the Harry Potter films. Don't be so quick to judge!


All blacks are scary.

rugbyfix.com
 
2014-06-12 06:04:24 AM
I wonder whether a cadre of supporters will form around her.  I wonder whether two of those supporters will later walk into a pizza joint, shout "The revolution has begun," and shoot a couple of black people at point-blank range.  I wonder whether Alex Jones will immediately announce that this is an obvious false flag operation staged by Obummer.  I wonder whether the rest of the right will immediately claim that the shooters were libby libz.  I wonder whether this woman will say, "Yes they came to our group, but we kicked them out because they were criminals."

I wonder whether the rest of the supporters will then form the S.A. (Super Amur'cans), a militia to Protect Murica from lazy urbanites.
 
2014-06-12 06:13:25 AM
Dang, someone get that writer an editor.

But seriously...

"What is on the tape is nothing more than me stating my honest opinion, and I don't back down from that. I never denied what was on the tape."

Way to dig in on the stupid.
 
2014-06-12 06:26:35 AM
So does that mean we have a "Republicans saying hateful things" trife-, qua-, whatever in play?  I'd suggest "sexfecta", but it sounds like something republicans need to be kept away from.
 
2014-06-12 06:26:41 AM
Donald Sterling's a texas official?
 
2014-06-12 06:37:03 AM
FTFA: ...made racist comments in a private conversation  that were recorded.

Not much of a  privateconversation as I see it.
 
2014-06-12 06:42:35 AM
But I don't understand.  The supreme court has said that there is no more racism and struck down major parts of the civil rights act and affirmative action in schools.  Republicans said now that a Black president was elected, there is no more racism.  I thought stuff like this just doesn't happen anymore.  Am I missing something?
 
2014-06-12 06:45:28 AM
But I was assured by many top right wingers here that there was no more racism in the United States.  None at all.

Is this woman maybe a Canadian who's moved to the US?
 
2014-06-12 06:52:05 AM
Say hello to the new right wing hero
 
2014-06-12 06:55:10 AM
For what it's worth, I give this idiotic hag more credit than most racists. At least she's owning it and being honest about her hatred. That means it's there and you don't have to deal with her playing the "I'm not racist! You're racist for saying in racist!" Game.

She's vile, repugnant, and hateful...but she's got my respect just a little more than racists who pretend they're not.
 
2014-06-12 06:56:40 AM

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?


I think the implication is that she's never going back.
 
2014-06-12 07:09:34 AM
Hoorray for voolating federal law. Enjoy prison!
 
2014-06-12 07:22:26 AM
And you people say you aren't racist.
 
2014-06-12 07:27:07 AM

fusillade762: Damnhippyfreak: TuteTibiImperes: FTFA:  "It's not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board. She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that's why the school system has gone to hell."

What is that even supposed to mean?  She  turned black?  She wasn't black before being elected to the school board?  Is this some kind of Soul Man situation?

I'm guessing because 'black' to this guy is not just a skin color, but also a set of (presumably negative) cultural traits. Kind of like getting "Jewed" as an expression.

[www.addictinginfo.org image 615x345]

That's a man, baby?

Maybe it's like turning Japanese?

/we should get an ocelot



Aaaaand yup.  Looks like she got hit by a truck full of bibles.
 
2014-06-12 07:29:44 AM

Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, I don't think so. We have methods, even at the city council level, to remove those who espouse discrimination when it comes to race, color, or creed. Even in mid term.


I misread this as 'We have methodists" and was about to congratulate you on your inclusivity. ;)
 
2014-06-12 07:34:09 AM

Jim_Callahan: "Racism will not be tolerated on any level in the city of La Marque," said Mayor Bobby Hocking.

Is the position elected?  Then fark you, sir, you'll tolerate as much racism as they feel like dishing out.  The voters can pressure her if they want, but if  you go beyond politely expressing your own opinion then you're the one that should be chucked out.


You will tolerate racism, but not impoliteness?
 
2014-06-12 07:34:11 AM

Farkin_Crazy: So if I take office on July 1 2014 for a 2 year term, I can say what ever the hell I wish without retribution for 24 months?

Yeah, I don't think so. We have methods, even at the city council level, to remove those who espouse discrimination when it comes to race, color, or creed. Even in mid term.


The method only exists if it was specifically set up for the position.  Many charters/houses of government, etc, have ouster rules - for instance the US Congress can eject members.  Some have recall rules.  Most have maleficence rules covering criminal conduct.

There are a whole lot of elected positions where baring criminal conviction, there is no way to eject someone forcibly from office.
 
2014-06-12 07:43:25 AM
Being a racist little biatch isn't illegal. If the majority of her electorate is behind her, she can say all the vile things she wants. I guess.

It's sad, though. But that's what you have to expect from a woman.
 
2014-06-12 07:43:33 AM
I suppose it's better than cloaking her ignorance in a silly, cowardly euphemism like "take our country back" or some such nonsense.  It's almost refreshing in this day and age to see someone so upfront and honest with their racism.  If only more Republicans could be as brave as this woman.
 
2014-06-12 07:53:06 AM
Maybe he was addressing the failure of majority black schools, administrators,and school boards to really address issues of poor performance.

Of course, we all know this is a myth,and that school boards always act in the best interest of the children and community.

"They're all connected," McDonald said. "If you look at Clayton County, DeKalb County, Atlanta, these are overwhelmingly majority African-American school districts. This is not about the children. This is about money. Every school system has contracts. This is about folks getting their hands on those contracts."

Subsequent investigations suggest the Atlanta case may not be isolated. An investigation last year by the Journal-Constitution found 196 school districts across the USA with suspicious test score gains. In 2011, USA TODAY looked at scores across six states and the District of Columbia and found more than 1,600 cases of improbable score gains, including several cases in which educators in D.C. schools erased student answers on test forms.
The Atlanta cheating scandal is but the most recent in a series of cases in metro Atlanta that have placed public education squarely at the nexus of race and politics:



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