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(CTV News)   "Children's Joy Foundation" is a legitimate, honest, well-intentioned, registered charity and totally not a scam   (calgary.ctvnews.ca) divider line 36
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2014-06-11 04:07:33 PM
It's an off-shoot of the human fund
 
2014-06-11 04:36:45 PM
Scamming people into giving you donations that's not a registered charity should get you stuck inside those four walls, send inside forever.

/Worm, ear.
 
2014-06-11 05:08:12 PM

Peter von Nostrand: It's an off-shoot of the human fund


Dammit! Ohh well I'm glad it was done in one at least.
 
2014-06-11 06:55:39 PM
Thanks for defaming them then. I guess
 
2014-06-11 06:58:17 PM
I'm still not giving them anything. I hate children.
 
2014-06-11 07:00:59 PM
From their tactics described in the first article, they sound like the definition of the term "chuggers" -- "Ch"(arity) + (M)"uggers".  Or as comedian Sean Lock termed them, "Chunts".
 
2014-06-11 07:03:44 PM

stirfrybry: Thanks for defaming them then. I guess


Most "charities" are scam jobs. Some give as little as 10% of the money collected to their professed goal.

Don't get me wrong, some charities are absolutely excellent and it takes money to run an organization; such as Doctors without Borders and Engineers without Borders to name a just a few good charities.
 
2014-06-11 07:06:24 PM

Peter von Nostrand: It's an off-shoot of the human fund


You any relation to Martin Von Nostrand?
 
2014-06-11 07:12:06 PM

Peter von Nostrand: It's an off-shoot of the human fund


www.tvteez.com
 
2014-06-11 07:15:04 PM

iheartscotch: stirfrybry: Thanks for defaming them then. I guess

Most "charities" are scam jobs. Some give as little as 10% of the money collected to their professed goal.

Don't get me wrong, some charities are absolutely excellent and it takes money to run an organization; such as Doctors without Borders and Engineers without Borders to name a just a few good charities.


It's not necessarily that the charity is a scam, so much as it is very inefficient in fundraising.  Nobody wants to do it, really, so most hire professional fundraisers and the charity ends up actually getting a small fraction of the amount given, as the rest is eaten up in "overhead".  Apparently some of those Police and Fire Department fundraisers (the ones that call you at dinnertime) are the worst  Since taxes are involved (specifically the amount that the government is not getting), you can obtain reports on the percentages of donations that go toward the goal, from the state.
 
2014-06-11 07:16:14 PM
Is said charity being promoted in some way?  If so, it's a scam.

/everybody knows that
 
2014-06-11 07:16:50 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Scamming people into giving you donations that's not a registered charity should get you stuck inside those four walls, send inside forever.

/Worm, ear.


That's how Paul got his "Sir".
 
2014-06-11 07:21:37 PM
Collecting funds for children in the Philippines, what about the kids that go to bed hungry in America?
I do feel bad for all children but charity begins at home.
 
2014-06-11 07:23:08 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Scamming people into giving you donations that's not a registered charity should get you stuck inside those four walls, send inside forever.

/Worm, ear.


Cooler yet: It's on YouTube in HD.  At least it got Elvis Costello out of my head.
 
2014-06-11 07:25:01 PM
If I actively try to make children's lives worse, do I get a refund from this group?
 
2014-06-11 07:32:49 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If I actively try to make children's lives worse, do I get a refund from this group?


Are you saying that something in life could be worse than being a child?

I find that hard to believe.
 
2014-06-11 07:36:07 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I_Am_Weasel: Scamming people into giving you donations that's not a registered charity should get you stuck inside those four walls, send inside forever.

/Worm, ear.

Cooler yet: It's on YouTube in HD.  At least it got Elvis Costello out of my head.


Why did I click that?

/farking earworm infection now
//will counter it
//with  this gem.
 
2014-06-11 07:39:03 PM

Peter von Nostrand: It's an off-shoot of the human fund


Strong username to post content ratio
 
2014-06-11 07:48:53 PM
www.csmonitor.com

/ newsletter, etc
 
2014-06-11 07:51:18 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If I actively try to make children's lives worse, do I get a refund from this group?

Are you saying that something in life could be worse than being a child?

I find that hard to believe.


It works very well with my other philanthropy work: Raising money for a giant gamma ray emitter.

Race for the Cause.
 
2014-06-11 07:55:30 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: If I actively try to make children's lives worse, do I get a refund from this group?

Are you saying that something in life could be worse than being a child?

I find that hard to believe.


being a parent?
 
2014-06-11 08:06:42 PM

Billy Liar: iheartscotch: stirfrybry: Thanks for defaming them then. I guess

Most "charities" are scam jobs. Some give as little as 10% of the money collected to their professed goal.

Don't get me wrong, some charities are absolutely excellent and it takes money to run an organization; such as Doctors without Borders and Engineers without Borders to name a just a few good charities.

It's not necessarily that the charity is a scam, so much as it is very inefficient in fundraising.  Nobody wants to do it, really, so most hire professional fundraisers and the charity ends up actually getting a small fraction of the amount given, as the rest is eaten up in "overhead".  Apparently some of those Police and Fire Department fundraisers (the ones that call you at dinnertime) are the worst  Since taxes are involved (specifically the amount that the government is not getting), you can obtain reports on the percentages of donations that go toward the goal, from the state.


No, the "police and fire" telemarketers are probably outright scams -- they're not calling on behalf of any specific police or fire organization, they're calling on behalf of the telemarketer itself, on a pretext of giving your donations to non-specific police and fire organizations. The telemarketer keeps 100% of your donation. Or if they do donate anything, it's to a related sister company so it gets sucked right back into the telemarketer. That sounds pretty darn efficient to me.
 
2014-06-11 08:16:53 PM
Everyone should know this site:  CharityNavigator.org.  Easy to remember, easy to tell the solicitor at your door: "hang on, first I want to look you up on CharityNavigator.  The scam ones won't stay at your door/on the phone for long.  It'll also help you decide the best place to allocate your giving.
 
2014-06-11 09:01:24 PM
I give to the "Children's Sad Foundation. They give out exploding teddy bears.
 
2014-06-11 09:07:48 PM

nytmare: Billy Liar: iheartscotch: stirfrybry: Thanks for defaming them then. I guess

Most "charities" are scam jobs. Some give as little as 10% of the money collected to their professed goal.

Don't get me wrong, some charities are absolutely excellent and it takes money to run an organization; such as Doctors without Borders and Engineers without Borders to name a just a few good charities.

It's not necessarily that the charity is a scam, so much as it is very inefficient in fundraising.  Nobody wants to do it, really, so most hire professional fundraisers and the charity ends up actually getting a small fraction of the amount given, as the rest is eaten up in "overhead".  Apparently some of those Police and Fire Department fundraisers (the ones that call you at dinnertime) are the worst  Since taxes are involved (specifically the amount that the government is not getting), you can obtain reports on the percentages of donations that go toward the goal, from the state.

No, the "police and fire" telemarketers are probably outright scams -- they're not calling on behalf of any specific police or fire organization, they're calling on behalf of the telemarketer itself, on a pretext of giving your donations to non-specific police and fire organizations. The telemarketer keeps 100% of your donation. Or if they do donate anything, it's to a related sister company so it gets sucked right back into the telemarketer. That sounds pretty darn efficient to me.


The worst telemarketer I ever dealt with was calling, ostensibly, on behalf of the Fraternal Order of Police back in '01.  I have no idea if they actually were soliciting for the FOP.

It was a very high pressure soliciting call, asking for something like a $100 donation to the FOP, in exchange for some decal that said I was a supporter (and indicated that having one on my car would help me in any dealings with police).  I told them I couldn't afford that.  Seriously, I couldn't, I'd lost my job and would end up having to move out of my apartment within a few months for running out of money and ended up living on a friends couch for a while, not to mention I didn't own a car.

I told them I couldn't afford to donate anything. . .so they asked for $50, but if I did that I wouldn't get the FOB decal so I would be better off to just "save money in the long term" and pay the $100 rather than "pay more when an Officer stops you".  I told them I really couldn't afford to donate. . .so they asked for $25.  Irate, I snapped back that I just lost my job, I have $20 in my pocket to last indefinitely, no bank account, no credit cards, and will probably have to vacate my apartment because I can't pay the rent or bills and will be living off the ramen noodles and canned vegetables I have stockpiled.

. . .the solicitor hung up without so much as a "have a nice day".
 
2014-06-11 09:21:50 PM

Silverstaff: I told them I couldn't afford that.  Seriously, I couldn't, I'd lost my job and would end up havin ...


But your internet is fully paid up.  I know!
 
2014-06-11 09:54:35 PM

sharphead: Silverstaff: I told them I couldn't afford that.  Seriously, I couldn't, I'd lost my job and would end up havin ...

But your internet is fully paid up.  I know!


Actually, no, it wasn't.  That was back when there was NetZero for free dial up for 40 hours per month.  I was using that, or walking to the library to use the net.
 
2014-06-11 10:34:08 PM
http://www.childrensjoyfoundation.org/what-we-do/

2) Spiritual Enrichment
Spiritual enrichment is an important intervention to transform the total person of a child to become a God fearing person.  The Center shall design activities that will help enrich spiritual development of the child.


There's no free lunch kiddies. You're going to get a gallon of God with every teaspoon of medicine. I almost wish this was a scam.
 
2014-06-12 12:21:47 AM

Silverstaff: nytmare: Billy Liar: iheartscotch: stirfrybry: Thanks for defaming them then. I guess

Most "charities" are scam jobs. Some give as little as 10% of the money collected to their professed goal.

Don't get me wrong, some charities are absolutely excellent and it takes money to run an organization; such as Doctors without Borders and Engineers without Borders to name a just a few good charities.

It's not necessarily that the charity is a scam, so much as it is very inefficient in fundraising.  Nobody wants to do it, really, so most hire professional fundraisers and the charity ends up actually getting a small fraction of the amount given, as the rest is eaten up in "overhead".  Apparently some of those Police and Fire Department fundraisers (the ones that call you at dinnertime) are the worst  Since taxes are involved (specifically the amount that the government is not getting), you can obtain reports on the percentages of donations that go toward the goal, from the state.

No, the "police and fire" telemarketers are probably outright scams -- they're not calling on behalf of any specific police or fire organization, they're calling on behalf of the telemarketer itself, on a pretext of giving your donations to non-specific police and fire organizations. The telemarketer keeps 100% of your donation. Or if they do donate anything, it's to a related sister company so it gets sucked right back into the telemarketer. That sounds pretty darn efficient to me.

The worst telemarketer I ever dealt with was calling, ostensibly, on behalf of the Fraternal Order of Police back in '01.  I have no idea if they actually were soliciting for the FOP.

It was a very high pressure soliciting call, asking for something like a $100 donation to the FOP, in exchange for some decal that said I was a supporter (and indicated that having one on my car would help me in any dealings with police).  I told them I couldn't afford that.  Seriously, I couldn't, I'd lost my job and would end up havin ...


I got caught up in one of these scams a number of years back during a spell of joblessness - I got a call from someone who "saw my resume on Monster" and said I'd be a fit for the job. Oh, and he mentioned I could clear $1,000 a week there.  Being pretty desperate, I took him up on his offer.

Turned out that is was a telemarketing outfit that was being conducted on the part of "Our Police Supporters" or something like that - basically selling ad space in a "safety" magazine to businesses only. I smalled a scam, but since it was a "business" that screwed me out of employment to please their shareholders, I felt justified.

However, most businesses would have no part in it because the scam had been around a while and the "Real" police were issuing  warnings to businesses not to deal with this sort of scam. I wasn't even making enough commission to cover my transit fare and lunch, so I quit.

Good thing too. About a week after I quit the place I saw a story on the local evening news when the cops got their revenge for the company mis-using their name and busted everyone they could find at the place - they were being frog-marched out of the building with coats on their heads.
 
2014-06-12 12:47:50 AM
Peter von nostrandIt's an off-shoot of the human fund


static.wetpaint.me

I find your belief system fascinating.
 
2014-06-12 03:17:44 AM
As far as I'm concerned, the legitimacy of a charity is zero when they employ assholes to collect donations, no matter how much they spend on their causes.

The worst is when you get the used-car salesman routine for renewals. Now I hate that I ever donated to you in the first place and hope you rot; I hope you're happy with your hiring choices, assholes.

/Just pledge a million bucks, if they don't take your word that's their problem.
 
2014-06-12 08:34:06 AM

I_Am_Weasel: Scamming people into giving you donations that's not a registered charity should get you stuck inside those four walls, send inside forever.

/Worm, ear.


Greenpeace is not a registered charity, it's a lobby group (at least here in Canada), and people give to it all the time.
 
2014-06-12 09:03:20 AM

danielscissorhands: I_Am_Weasel: Scamming people into giving you donations that's not a registered charity should get you stuck inside those four walls, send inside forever.

/Worm, ear.

Greenpeace is not a registered charity, it's a lobby  terrorist group (at least here in Canada), and people give to it all the time.


FTFY
 
2014-06-12 09:36:16 AM
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Homer: Greetings, friends. Do you wish to look as happy as me? Well, you've got the power inside you right now. So, use it, and send one dollar to Happy Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. Don't delay, eternal happiness is just a dollar away.

Homer: Hello, this is Homer Simpson, AKA Happy Dude. The court has ordered me to call every person in town to apologize for my telemarketing scam. I'm sorry. If you can find it in your heart to forgive me, send one dollar to Sorry Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. You have the power.
 
2014-06-12 11:59:14 AM

Silverstaff: The worst telemarketer I ever dealt with was calling, ostensibly, on behalf of the Fraternal Order of Police back in '01.  I have no idea if they actually were soliciting for the FOP.

It was a very high pressure soliciting call, asking for something like a $100 donation to the FOP, in exchange for some decal that said I was a supporter (and indicated that having one on my car would help me in any dealings with police).  I told them I couldn't afford that.  Seriously, I couldn't, I'd lost my job and would end up havin ...


You realize you have a button on your phone that ends the call, right?
 
2014-06-12 03:19:53 PM
Well, that's better than the Children's Joy Division.

What's that?  A ticket to Hell?  Why thanks, yes, I'll have one.
 
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