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(The Raw Story)   "If a husband threatens to murder his wife with a gun, that's her problem, not the cops'." Was this from: A) Elliot Rodger's manifesto B) some MRA douche-blogger or C) "Reverend" Pat Robertson   (rawstory.com) divider line 306
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2014-06-11 06:06:53 PM  

Mikey1969: So that's what happened when I was 5. I spent 30 years blaming myself because I didn't do "something" when my mother's boyfriend beat her to death. I finally realized that there was nothing I could have done. Now I have to feel guilty all over again because I didn't bring her the phone so that she could call the police on her own.

Thanks, Pat.


Is the boyfriend rotting in prison?
/i hope so
 
2014-06-11 06:06:53 PM  

Elegy: timujin: If you're trying to make those who support it seem like victimized crybabies, you've succeeded.

That's right. Talking about any inequality you face makes you sound like a victimized, whiny crybaby.

Toughen up men. Just suck it up and take it. You don't need to voice your opinion when you see something you think is unfair. You're a man. Be a man. Be tough.

Just suck it up, you crybaby.


You realize that by taking my point that what this gue has written in this thread makes him come off as someone with a fetish for victimization and write what you do, you're actually doing the same thing, right?  Making it seem like everything is about you and that you're the "real victim" here?

He's not talking about inequality, he's taking a joke and making himself a martyr.  Thing is, the joke should only be offensive to "MRA douche-bloggers".  Are you one?  If not, why be offended?  Are you suggesting there are no such people?  Every group has assholes.  If you don't realize that, you haven't been on Fark long enough.
 
2014-06-11 06:07:31 PM  
what Pat should have said:

"Call the cops, you father is a psychotic dick who needs to have a real man mansplain to him how to be a man, his gun needs to be taken from his possession and shoved up his ass and test fired,  your mother is suffering from Stockholm syndrome and may need some medical attention herself and whatever you do kid, don't ever call me again for anything, i'm a worthless POS con man."

 
2014-06-11 06:09:06 PM  

freewill: HideAndGoFarkYourself: You shouldn't WANT to get your dad arrested, unless he's a giant farkwad.  A giant farkwad like the kind of guy who threatens another person with a freaking gun.  If dad's first inclination during an argument is to get a gun and threaten people with it; the only help he needs is a visit from the police.  Eventually dad's gonna have too much to drink and fire off a round, then the kid has to live with that the rest of his life.

I don't disagree with any of this. I just disagree with the wisdom and even the humanity of instructing a child to take on an adult's role opposing their own parent in a violent, potentially life-threatening situation, especially if they haven't already communicated with the mother, who may be sufficiently under his thumb that she'll side with him against the child.

Yes, he will learn the wrong behavior if it goes unpunished, but Robertson said the same thing you just did: dad will eventually kill mom if this isn't stopped, so it has to stop. He just says that the child is not the one in the position to take this on.


Robertson flat told the kid not to call the police, which is wrong.  When you're staring at somebody waving a gun at your mother in anger, you call the police.  You don't HOPE that your dad decides not to kill your mom that day, then talk to your mom later and get her to call the police.  If mom was interested in the police being called, she'd have done it, or she's so terrified of her husband that she's not going to call regardless of how scared little Timmy is.  The time for a family discussion is after daddy gets out of rehab, or mommy gets a divorce.  It's a lot easier to counsel a kid that calling the police was the right thing, and that he ultimately may have saved a life, than it is to counsel a kid that his inaction was part of the reason his mommy got killed in front of him.
 
2014-06-11 06:09:51 PM  

timujin: Elegy: timujin: If you're trying to make those who support it seem like victimized crybabies, you've succeeded.

That's right. Talking about any inequality you face makes you sound like a victimized, whiny crybaby.

Toughen up men. Just suck it up and take it. You don't need to voice your opinion when you see something you think is unfair. You're a man. Be a man. Be tough.

Just suck it up, you crybaby.

You realize that by taking my point that what this gue has written in this thread makes him come off as someone with a fetish for victimization and write what you do, you're actually doing the same thing, right?  Making it seem like everything is about you and that you're the "real victim" here?

He's not talking about inequality, he's taking a joke and making himself a martyr.  Thing is, the joke should only be offensive to "MRA douche-bloggers".  Are you one?  If not, why be offended?  Are you suggesting there are no such people?  Every group has assholes.  If you don't realize that, you haven't been on Fark long enough.


Are you talking about feminist assholes? I am honestly lost and only half way paying attention to what is going on here.

Can we get the legal representative of the Feminist and the legal representative of the MRA in this thread please. I don't really know what is going on.
 
2014-06-11 06:10:50 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: UncomfortableSilence: aagrajag: Dusk-You-n-Me: There was an MRA joke in the headline

MRA BEACON ACTIVATED

ALL MRAS REPORT TO THREAD TO DEFEND THE MOST HELPLESS AMONGST US - MEN

I can show you some genuinely nutty, misandrist feminists, but to paint all feminists as such would be wrong and bigoted, and people would be perfectly justified to call it out as such.

So why is it acceptable to denigrate the advocates of the other group, then excuse it with a Rush Limbaugh-esque "It's just a joke! Lighten up, guy!"?

1. Most of the feminists I know haven't been the all out war type, every MRA person I've met has lived up to it.

2. One group is actually fighting against social injustice and for equality, the other is fighting against perceived slights and women getting to be treated as equals.

To be fair, I've met a few that are either entirely on the 'custodial father' issue, or if you talk to them about that seem perfectly reasonable.  It's just 50/50 90/10 any time the topic of women comes up in any other context whether the reasonable seeming human being you're talking to will suddenly and vitirolically turn out to be an MRA.

I have a kid.  Don't raise it.  I'm fine with getting shafted.  I consider it an 18 year stupidity tax.  but I sympathize with guys who actually would like custody.  Out of everything, that seems to be the only issue EVER mentioned by any of them that has any reality to it.  Everything else EVER deserves little more than scorn and the 'help help we're being oppressed' graphic.


Easy solution: make the mother look very bad to the court. ( for details on this please subscribe to my newsletter)
Get full custody
Go to Utah and put the kid up for a closed adoption.
 
2014-06-11 06:10:57 PM  

freewill: tiamet4: I think calling the cops or telling a teacher who can contact a social worker is the right answer.  "You don't want to get your dad busted"....uh yeah I do.  Preferably before someone's brains are on the wall.

Like I said, if talking to mom doesn't get it done, then I agree completely.

This is a grownup job first, though.


I think a better grown up for the job would be a teacher and/or a social worker who can hopefully give them tools to get away from this asshat.

Also, he should not be asking his mom to "talk to his dad about getting help".  He should be asking his mom to get him the hell out of this situation.

I'll agree with the person above who said simply that Pat's answer is wrong.  There's nothing correct about it.

\Also, I'd love to see the result if mom actually was inspired to tell her gun-brandishing husband that he should stop pointing a gun at her during an argument
\\Actually I wouldn't love to see it.  It would probably be very unpleasant
 
2014-06-11 06:12:53 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: aagrajag: Dusk-You-n-Me: There was an MRA joke in the headline

MRA BEACON ACTIVATED

ALL MRAS REPORT TO THREAD TO DEFEND THE MOST HELPLESS AMONGST US - MEN

I can show you some genuinely nutty, misandrist feminists, but to paint all feminists as such would be wrong and bigoted, and people would be perfectly justified to call it out as such.

So why is it acceptable to denigrate the advocates of the other group, then excuse it with a Rush Limbaugh-esque "It's just a joke! Lighten up, guy!"?

1. Most of the feminists I know haven't been the all out war type, every MRA person I've met has lived up to it.

2. One group is actually fighting against social injustice and for equality, the other is fighting against perceived slights and women getting to be treated as equals.


Well, you know one now.

Feel free to check my previous posts; you'll find nothing remotely misogynistic in them.

I have a good relationship with every female in my life, even my ex-girlfriends.

There are real, quantifiable injustices affected men (primarily in family courts) that are not being addressed, and while these do not directly affect my happily-married ass, they hurt others. They are not being addressed by feminist groups, nor do I expect them to be. It is not reasonable to expect any but the most noble members of a group to actively fight for the elimination of their privileges.

So someone else has to.

I would love to talk more, but I have class to teach. I'll be back in a few hours.

Cheers
 
2014-06-11 06:13:46 PM  

Empty H: Can we get the legal representative of the Feminist and the legal representative of the MRA in this thread please. I don't really know what is going on.


Here is a funny "debate" between a feminist and an aspiring MRA

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-11 06:14:11 PM  
I hate subby for putting me in the position of defending Pat Farking Robertson, but that is not what he said.   Damn you, subby!  Damn you to Hell!!
 
2014-06-11 06:16:21 PM  

jst3p: MRA's are indeed crybabies who often subscribe to this magazine:

[img.fark.net image 194x259]


Oooh, men's magazines!

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-11 06:16:58 PM  
Man, I just love to poop.
 
2014-06-11 06:16:58 PM  
Very Confucian of him.
 
2014-06-11 06:17:29 PM  

jst3p: Empty H: Can we get the legal representative of the Feminist and the legal representative of the MRA in this thread please. I don't really know what is going on.

Here is a funny "debate" between a feminist and an aspiring MRA

[i.imgur.com image 850x615]


Honestly, both those people come off as horrible immature people. I also feel like there is a lot more to this "debate" that we don't get to see.
 
2014-06-11 06:19:03 PM  

Elegy: jst3p: MRA's are indeed crybabies who often subscribe to this magazine:

[img.fark.net image 194x259]

Oooh, men's magazines!

[i.imgur.com image 850x1151]


So what you are saying is every group of people have members that poorly represent what that group stands for?
 
2014-06-11 06:19:37 PM  

LeroyBourne: Mikey1969: So that's what happened when I was 5. I spent 30 years blaming myself because I didn't do "something" when my mother's boyfriend beat her to death. I finally realized that there was nothing I could have done. Now I have to feel guilty all over again because I didn't bring her the phone so that she could call the police on her own.

Thanks, Pat.

Is the boyfriend rotting in prison?
/i hope so


Unfortunately, no... He got 7 years. Not 'Out after 7 years, due to good behavior'. 7 years. Back in the mid 90's, I learned that he had been in prison for locking a woman and her kid in their house and dousing it with gas, trying to set it on fire. And was out again at the farking time.
 
2014-06-11 06:19:40 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Example one: Make False claims about what Men's Rights are about.


If you want to know what MRA is all about, this article paints a pretty clear picture.
 
2014-06-11 06:19:50 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: When you're staring at somebody waving a gun at your mother in anger, you call the police.  You don't HOPE that your dad decides not to kill your mom that day, then talk to your mom later and get her to call the police.  If mom was interested in the police being called, she'd have done it, or she's so terrified of her husband that she's not going to call regardless of how scared little Timmy is.  The time for a family discussion is after daddy gets out of rehab, or mommy gets a divorce.  It's a lot easier to counsel a kid that calling the police was the right thing, and that he ultimately may have saved a life, than it is to counsel a kid that his inaction was part of the reason his mommy got killed in front of him.


I was assuming that Robertson was not responding to a situation that was occurring in real-time. As in, I didn't think his father was pointing the gun at his mother while Robertson was giving the kid instructions, so it was not, in fact, an emergency at that very moment. I do agree that in the moment, calling 911 is the right thing to do.

Robertson was pretty clear with the kid that his father is going to kill his mother eventually and something has to be done.

tiamet4: Also, he should not be asking his mom to "talk to his dad about getting help".  He should be asking his mom to get him the hell out of this situation.


I can agree with this completely. If "help" is limited to asking him to please stop and see a therapist, then Robertson's answer is certainly wrong. LIke I said, I understand how it could be read that way, but I read it as "you need to tell her this isn't OK and to do something, she knows what that means".

When I hear "help" in the context of a violent psycho, I hear "Baker Act".

/ Alternately, "shoot him first, mom."
 
2014-06-11 06:20:04 PM  
This is why men should only fark cheap skanky meth whores...the ones who don't have pimps for protection.
Have your way with them and dispose in the nearest dumpster.

/if pickup isn't the next day you can go back for seconds. Free bonus.
 
2014-06-11 06:20:11 PM  

Mikey1969: So that's what happened when I was 5. I spent 30 years blaming myself because I didn't do "something" when my mother's boyfriend beat her to death. I finally realized that there was nothing I could have done. Now I have to feel guilty all over again because I didn't bring her the phone so that she could call the police on her own.

Thanks, Pat.


Dude, Pat's so full of shiat he forgot how to squeak millenia ago.

Do NOT do that to yourself.
 
2014-06-11 06:20:55 PM  
Shrug. they likes the bad boyz.
 
2014-06-11 06:21:02 PM  

soporific: If you want to know what MRA is all about, this article paints a pretty clear picture.


This 40 sec video does a good job too.

Link
 
2014-06-11 06:21:42 PM  

Mikey1969: Unfortunately, no... He got 7 years. Not 'Out after 7 years, due to good behavior'. 7 years. Back in the mid 90's, I learned that he had been in prison for locking a woman and her kid in their house and dousing it with gas, trying to set it on fire. And was out again at the farking time.


Well, I don't want to live on *this* planet anymore.
 
2014-06-11 06:21:42 PM  
Pat Robertson is one of the surest signs there is no god.
 
2014-06-11 06:22:45 PM  
The dumbest thing about MRAs is that they think family courts are rigged against fathers who want custody because of feminist ideology. Family courts have ALWAYS been rigged against custodial fathers, because of patriarchal ideas about gender roles.

Also, to MRAs, all feminists are Andrea Dworkin and a handful of other fringey loons hanging out in academia.
 
2014-06-11 06:23:02 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: /if pickup isn't the next day you can go back for seconds. Free bonus.


hahaha, oh wow
 
2014-06-11 06:23:48 PM  

timujin: You realize that by taking my point that what this gue has written in this thread makes him come off as someone with a fetish for victimization and write what you do, you're actually doing the same thing, right?  Making it seem like everything is about you and that you're the "real victim" here?

He's not talking about inequality, he's taking a joke and making himself a martyr.  Thing is, the joke should only be offensive to "MRA douche-bloggers".  Are you one?  If not, why be offended?  Are you suggesting there are no such people?  Every group has assholes.  If you don't realize that, you haven't been on Fark long enough.


Ah, yes, the old "stop playing the victim card" canard.

Which was precisely my point. Your entire argument thus far has boiled down to "suck it up and be tough, you're men, quit whining you crybabies."

Way to reinforce those patriarchal gender roles. I guess you want men to be in touch with their feelings and discuss them openly, at least until they say something you don't like. In which case, they need to suck it up and be tough because manly men are strong and don't cry and whine about things.

Got it.
 
2014-06-11 06:25:17 PM  

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 612x144]

I don't understand why the Raw Story, about a year or two ago, decided to fire reporters and hire political bloggers with no journalism experience and claim they did reporting and then adopt Newsmax principles of journalism.

But um, Raw Story is no longer a credible source of journalism.


Probably because bloggers are cheaper.
 
2014-06-11 06:26:09 PM  

LazyMedia: The dumbest thing about MRAs is that they think family courts are rigged against fathers who want custody because of feminist ideology. Family courts have ALWAYS been rigged against custodial fathers, because of patriarchal ideas about gender roles.

Also, to MRAs, all feminists are Andrea Dworkin and a handful of other fringey loons hanging out in academia.


On this note some are coming around. I have 50/50 custody in Colorado and I didn't have to fight for it, the court are more accepting of recent research that shows that kids can thrive in a situation where they have two homes if it is done properly. Logistics can be tricky and getting along with the ex can be trying but it can work.
 
2014-06-11 06:26:54 PM  

Mikey1969: LeroyBourne: Mikey1969: So that's what happened when I was 5. I spent 30 years blaming myself because I didn't do "something" when my mother's boyfriend beat her to death. I finally realized that there was nothing I could have done. Now I have to feel guilty all over again because I didn't bring her the phone so that she could call the police on her own.

Thanks, Pat.

Is the boyfriend rotting in prison?
/i hope so

Unfortunately, no... He got 7 years. Not 'Out after 7 years, due to good behavior'. 7 years. Back in the mid 90's, I learned that he had been in prison for locking a woman and her kid in their house and dousing it with gas, trying to set it on fire. And was out again at the farking time.


7 years for murder two, that's farked up.  He was probably on paper for another 7 years if he was out on good behavior.  But still, that's light.
 
2014-06-11 06:28:01 PM  

LeroyBourne: I love this bit.
/nsfw
Link


Funny bit, but holy shiat the dude who posted that to youtube needs some serious therapy.
 
2014-06-11 06:28:34 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: regornam: Pot, meet kettle. Self-awareness is clearly not your strength, crybaby.

And clarity is not your strength. I have no idea what you are talking about.


Well, of course you don't. And no-one is surprised either.
 
2014-06-11 06:31:12 PM  
Where the hell did all these guys come from, anyway? What did they do before this MRA stuff blew up?

My theory is that there's a critical mass of young men now who were raised entirely by the internet, and thus have poor self-esteem and little sense of identity from lack of socialization.
 
2014-06-11 06:31:24 PM  

Elegy: timujin: You realize that by taking my point that what this gue has written in this thread makes him come off as someone with a fetish for victimization and write what you do, you're actually doing the same thing, right?  Making it seem like everything is about you and that you're the "real victim" here?

He's not talking about inequality, he's taking a joke and making himself a martyr.  Thing is, the joke should only be offensive to "MRA douche-bloggers".  Are you one?  If not, why be offended?  Are you suggesting there are no such people?  Every group has assholes.  If you don't realize that, you haven't been on Fark long enough.

Ah, yes, the old "stop playing the victim card" canard.

Which was precisely my point. Your entire argument thus far has boiled down to "suck it up and be tough, you're men, quit whining you crybabies."

Way to reinforce those patriarchal gender roles. I guess you want men to be in touch with their feelings and discuss them openly, at least until they say something you don't like. In which case, they need to suck it up and be tough because manly men are strong and don't cry and whine about things.

Got it.


No, my entire argument can be boiled down to "don't go looking for ways to be offended".

It's like this.  If someone kicks you in the shin, complain about the pain.  If someone kicks someone else in the shin, don't.
 
2014-06-11 06:31:43 PM  
An adult woman and a child witness a man threatening them with a gun. A phone is nearby.

Who here thinks the child should call the police?
Who here thinks the adult woman should call the police?

The man is no longer threatening the adult woman and the child with a gun. A phone is nearby.

Who here thinks the child should call the police?
Who here thinks the adult woman should call the police?

Who is abusing the child?
[ ] the man threatening the child and adult woman woman?
[ ] the adult woman who will not call the police to protect her child?
[ ] the farkers demanding the child call the police to protect the adult woman?
 
2014-06-11 06:31:49 PM  
The 700 Club isn't live, right? Makes you wonder what gets left on the editing room floor...
 
2014-06-11 06:32:27 PM  
If you actually label yourself an MRA you are a dumbass. For that matter if you use the term mansplain in everyday conversation you are also a dumbass.
 
2014-06-11 06:34:28 PM  
If anybody were to try to beat up on my mom, I wouldn't suggest to her that she should call the cops, I would flat-out do it myself.

Pat Robertson is a dickbag, plain and simple.

/no, I don't give a shiat if what he actually said seems more reasonable than Subby's headline
//Pat Robertson is a DICKBAG
 
2014-06-11 06:35:00 PM  

LeroyBourne: I love this bit.
/nsfw
Link


Only kinda related, but also a favorite of mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDMdaGhTDS4
 
2014-06-11 06:35:06 PM  

RoyBatty: An adult woman and a child witness a man threatening them with a gun. A phone is nearby.

Who here thinks the child should call the police?
Who here thinks the adult woman should call the police?

The man is no longer threatening the adult woman and the child with a gun. A phone is nearby.

Who here thinks the child should call the police?
Who here thinks the adult woman should call the police?

Who is abusing the child?
[ ] the man threatening the child and adult woman woman?
[ ] the adult woman who will not call the police to protect her child?
[ ] the farkers demanding the child call the police to protect the adult woman?


Follow up question:

If you believe a child should call the police to protect an adult woman from a man threatening both the adult woman and the child are you

[ ] Fighting the Patriarchy?
[ ] Reinforcing the Patriarchy?
 
2014-06-11 06:35:18 PM  

RoyBatty: Who is abusing the child?
[ ] the man threatening the child and adult woman woman?
[ ] the adult woman who will not call the police to protect her child?
[ ] the farkers demanding the child call the police to protect the adult woman?


Yup.
 
2014-06-11 06:35:53 PM  

timujin: Elegy: timujin: You realize that by taking my point that what this gue has written in this thread makes him come off as someone with a fetish for victimization and write what you do, you're actually doing the same thing, right?  Making it seem like everything is about you and that you're the "real victim" here?

He's not talking about inequality, he's taking a joke and making himself a martyr.  Thing is, the joke should only be offensive to "MRA douche-bloggers".  Are you one?  If not, why be offended?  Are you suggesting there are no such people?  Every group has assholes.  If you don't realize that, you haven't been on Fark long enough.

Ah, yes, the old "stop playing the victim card" canard.

Which was precisely my point. Your entire argument thus far has boiled down to "suck it up and be tough, you're men, quit whining you crybabies."

Way to reinforce those patriarchal gender roles. I guess you want men to be in touch with their feelings and discuss them openly, at least until they say something you don't like. In which case, they need to suck it up and be tough because manly men are strong and don't cry and whine about things.

Got it.

No, my entire argument can be boiled down to "don't go looking for ways to be offended".

It's like this.  If someone kicks you in the shin, complain about the pain.  If someone kicks someone else in the shin, don't.


So you agree with Pat Robertson? Daddy was kicking mama in the shin and she should complain about it, not me.
 
2014-06-11 06:38:28 PM  

Elegy: timujin: You realize that by taking my point that what this gue has written in this thread makes him come off as someone with a fetish for victimization and write what you do, you're actually doing the same thing, right?  Making it seem like everything is about you and that you're the "real victim" here?

He's not talking about inequality, he's taking a joke and making himself a martyr.  Thing is, the joke should only be offensive to "MRA douche-bloggers".  Are you one?  If not, why be offended?  Are you suggesting there are no such people?  Every group has assholes.  If you don't realize that, you haven't been on Fark long enough.

Ah, yes, the old "stop playing the victim card" canard.

Which was precisely my point. Your entire argument thus far has boiled down to "suck it up and be tough, you're men, quit whining you crybabies."

Way to reinforce those patriarchal gender roles. I guess you want men to be in touch with their feelings and discuss them openly, at least until they say something you don't like. In which case, they need to suck it up and be tough because manly men are strong and don't cry and whine about things.

Got it.


Whiners of any ilk are generally a pain in the ass, or hadn't you noticed? You're not special. You're not being singled out. You're whining and, this being Fark, you are being mocked for it. Deal with it.
 
2014-06-11 06:40:50 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Here's a picture of the submitter:

[thepigmancometh.com image 200x266]

Feminists think they have a monopoly on discussions about gender inequality.

Example one: Make False claims about what Men's Rights are about.

They also have been known to pull fire alarms to prevent anyone from discussing gender equality.


Oh no! Fire alarms. It's not like <A href="http://radicalcentristblog.wordpress.com/tag/montana-state-univ ersity/ ">MRAs don't abuse public systems to shut down rape awareness campaigns</a>. Or, you know, <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/santa-barbara-shoot er-elli ot-rodger-police-report">killing people</a>.
 
2014-06-11 06:40:58 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-11 06:41:43 PM  

RoyBatty: RoyBatty: An adult woman and a child witness a man threatening them with a gun. A phone is nearby.

Who here thinks the child should call the police?
Who here thinks the adult woman should call the police?

The man is no longer threatening the adult woman and the child with a gun. A phone is nearby.

Who here thinks the child should call the police?
Who here thinks the adult woman should call the police?

Who is abusing the child?
[ ] the man threatening the child and adult woman woman?
[ ] the adult woman who will not call the police to protect her child?
[ ] the farkers demanding the child call the police to protect the adult woman?

Follow up question:

If you believe a child should call the police to protect an adult woman from a man threatening both the adult woman and the child are you

[ ] Fighting the Patriarchy?
[ ] Reinforcing the Patriarchy?


Little kids shouldn't be encouraged as a general thing to snitch on their parents to the cops, because little kids generally don't understand what the fark is even happening most of the time, and they lie. They are lying little liars, little kids. You know societies that encourage kids to narc on their parents? Those are bad societies.

watsonwork.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-11 06:44:31 PM  

soporific: Because People in power are Stupid: Example one: Make False claims about what Men's Rights are about.

If you want to know what MRA is all about, this article paints a pretty clear picture.


Oh god, you just dropped an atom bomb on this debate. Bar none, the single most authoritative source in academia today is cracked.com. How can anyone refute that.

Except the fact the Men's Rights isn't an internet fad - been around since the feminist movement kicked off in fact. And the fact that Eliot Rogers had no connection to even the douchebaggiest MRA sites.

i.imgur.com

LazyMedia: The dumbest thing about MRAs is that they think family courts are rigged against fathers who want custody because of feminist ideology. Family courts have ALWAYS been rigged against custodial fathers, because of patriarchal ideas about gender roles.

Also, to MRAs, all feminists are Andrea Dworkin and a handful of other fringey loons hanging out in academia.


Ahh! A variant on the old "the patriarchy caused this so men have no right to complain" with a good dose of 'dumb men don't realize that it's the patriarchy farkin them over.'

Which makes for good pop social theory but means exactly shiat for the individual men caught up in the family court system.
 
2014-06-11 06:44:57 PM  

I8B4U: LeroyBourne: I love this bit.
/nsfw
Link

Funny bit, but holy shiat the dude who posted that to youtube needs some serious therapy.


Yeah, dude has issues.  He's probably didn't laugh once during that and just recalled his past failed relationships seething with anger.
 
2014-06-11 06:45:13 PM  

Mikey1969: gamergirl23: Not to defend this douche, but he said it's something the mother should deal with, not the children, and that something needed to be done about the father, at least implying that the mother should be the one to call the cops.

Yeah, you know what? It's OK for the kid to call the cops, especially if the father is threatening the mother at that time. Jesus, to listen to you and Pat, the kid should step up in the middle of the altercation to give Mommy the phone so that SHE can dial 911.

Also, you haven't known people who end up in destructive co-dependent relationships, have you?


You may have wanted to keep reading a few posts after that.
 
2014-06-11 06:46:17 PM  

Elegy: Oh god, you just dropped an atom bomb on this debate. Bar none, the single most authoritative source in academia today is cracked.com. How can anyone refute that.


You sound afraid of women.
 
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